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<blockquote data-quote="Himalayan Hermit" data-source="post: 255469" data-attributes="member: 2719"><p><strong>Long post alert</strong> not to contradict your post [USER=15720]@Silent_Starling[/USER] - but to provide a lay person's view with some other points. For starters, I've also spoken with Gibbs, have read and listened to most of his interviews, have also interacted with some HDR Users (who are not popular like HDRKid) - who had mixed experiences.</p><p></p><p>My Take: I can neither debunk, nor have full belief in it. In my own HDR experiments, I have had some VERY strange experiences, but that's for another time.</p><p></p><p>Devil's Advocate View:</p><p>You had a sour experience with Gibbs as some of his users said "I got robbed of my $366, it never worked and he did not refund".</p><p>This particular POV would be known to you given your deep knowledge of HDR and Gibbs. So we will not try to dissect this POV. I'm not saying this is the case, but it's only fair to put it on the table <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite38" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>On some points, I would agree that he did come across as Eccentric, Weird or seem to be talking mumbo jumbo. But I can give many such examples of geniuses, so that POV is also no decision maker.</p><p></p><p>Another point is that he spoke about "you must pray to Jesus" before using HDR. To that I asked, What if I'm a Muslim, Hindu, or an Atheist? Why should human made morality or belief in Jesus - drive my usage/belief in the HDR.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">To this Gibbs had no answer. A caller into Art Bell show asked him "why should morality" matter here (talk about betting, gambling, etc). To this Gibbs said (IIRC) - "why would God allow such a person to travel through time" > Hence HDR will not work for you = you've wasted your $366</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Another POV is his strong religious background, which was overwhelming in this respect. I have personally met "highly elevated spiritual beings in my 15+ yrs of wandering in remote HImalayas" who also had "somewhat influence of religion" on them. But did that make them any less elevated? No.</li> </ul><p>To your point about HDRKid vs Carlos Novella > I am inclined to agree with you here. But I don't think this topic deserves so much attention and no one seems to care much about who he is.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">However, the way HDRKid writes (I've been reading his blogs for last 11+ yrs) - does not align too well with Carlos (at least how he speaks). So I'm not sure if they're the same person, but who knows and it doesn't matter. But they both do seem to be strong Gibbs supporter.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">May be Gibbs paid Carlos off to speak about how he almost died, and then was revived fully through HDR Healing?</li> </ul><p>Your point about "no-safety" is also well acknowledged.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Many users and critics have raised the same point. Some very senior folks here (I won't name them) have also spoken about this (my knowledge here is very basic).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">To the point if his device is UL Approved > Gibbs just laughed it off. He also said that any Doctor who tried to use his device - were noticed by "authorities" and their medicine practice license was suspended, as a result.</li> </ul><p>Francis - whom you're referring to -I think is same as Dr. Z? > No opinion as I have no experience with him or his devices, so it would be unfair to bring that up.</p><p></p><p><strong>I have only one question for you </strong>[USER=15720]@Silent_Starling[/USER] - have you used HDR yourself (Sorry if I missed this)? Or is your opinion only based on your interaction with Jim Girouard, Steven Gibbs and other folks?</p><p></p><p>Thank you <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite38" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Himalayan Hermit, post: 255469, member: 2719"] [B]Long post alert[/B] not to contradict your post [USER=15720]@Silent_Starling[/USER] - but to provide a lay person's view with some other points. For starters, I've also spoken with Gibbs, have read and listened to most of his interviews, have also interacted with some HDR Users (who are not popular like HDRKid) - who had mixed experiences. My Take: I can neither debunk, nor have full belief in it. In my own HDR experiments, I have had some VERY strange experiences, but that's for another time. Devil's Advocate View: You had a sour experience with Gibbs as some of his users said "I got robbed of my $366, it never worked and he did not refund". This particular POV would be known to you given your deep knowledge of HDR and Gibbs. So we will not try to dissect this POV. I'm not saying this is the case, but it's only fair to put it on the table :) On some points, I would agree that he did come across as Eccentric, Weird or seem to be talking mumbo jumbo. But I can give many such examples of geniuses, so that POV is also no decision maker. Another point is that he spoke about "you must pray to Jesus" before using HDR. To that I asked, What if I'm a Muslim, Hindu, or an Atheist? Why should human made morality or belief in Jesus - drive my usage/belief in the HDR. [LIST] [*]To this Gibbs had no answer. A caller into Art Bell show asked him "why should morality" matter here (talk about betting, gambling, etc). To this Gibbs said (IIRC) - "why would God allow such a person to travel through time" > Hence HDR will not work for you = you've wasted your $366 [*]Another POV is his strong religious background, which was overwhelming in this respect. I have personally met "highly elevated spiritual beings in my 15+ yrs of wandering in remote HImalayas" who also had "somewhat influence of religion" on them. But did that make them any less elevated? No. [/LIST] To your point about HDRKid vs Carlos Novella > I am inclined to agree with you here. But I don't think this topic deserves so much attention and no one seems to care much about who he is. [LIST] [*]However, the way HDRKid writes (I've been reading his blogs for last 11+ yrs) - does not align too well with Carlos (at least how he speaks). So I'm not sure if they're the same person, but who knows and it doesn't matter. But they both do seem to be strong Gibbs supporter. [*]May be Gibbs paid Carlos off to speak about how he almost died, and then was revived fully through HDR Healing? [/LIST] Your point about "no-safety" is also well acknowledged. [LIST] [*]Many users and critics have raised the same point. Some very senior folks here (I won't name them) have also spoken about this (my knowledge here is very basic). [*]To the point if his device is UL Approved > Gibbs just laughed it off. He also said that any Doctor who tried to use his device - were noticed by "authorities" and their medicine practice license was suspended, as a result. [/LIST] Francis - whom you're referring to -I think is same as Dr. Z? > No opinion as I have no experience with him or his devices, so it would be unfair to bring that up. [B]I have only one question for you [/B][USER=15720]@Silent_Starling[/USER] - have you used HDR yourself (Sorry if I missed this)? Or is your opinion only based on your interaction with Jim Girouard, Steven Gibbs and other folks? Thank you :) [/QUOTE]
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