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<blockquote data-quote="Silent_Starling" data-source="post: 255472" data-attributes="member: 15720"><p>Hi Hermit,</p><p></p><p>I’m not sure if you were implying I had a sour experience with Gibbs?</p><p></p><p>If so - no I have not.</p><p></p><p> I spoke to him at length on a couple of occasions. My current opinions were formed later and in retrospect. Without emotion, though I have a strong inclination to ensure people are informed better.</p><p></p><p> I did not have a negative experience with him. I have met with people later in life, learnt many things and ‘revisited’ older times and topics with that more balanced mindset, filling in blanks and piecing together related topics. One could level the argument that this (natural process) comes with a heavy dose of reasoning bias. Barring in mind I am accusing Gibbs of the same thing.</p><p></p><p>However, there is a form of ‘healthy’ reasoning bias in the common population. Then there is that which can be categorised as symptomatic of delusional disorders. My opinion of Gibbs is different to that of my more childlike like mind. Baring in mind this is over 20 years ago.</p><p></p><p>Gibbs took the time to speak to me. I would be grateful, if it were not for the fact he clearly got more out of these interactions than the listener did (keeping in mind the delusional disorder slant). It simply is what it was. I recall at one stage he got rather flustered in himself, and became almost manic suggesting that the people behind the Montauk project were calling him for his esoteric and electronics expertise. As if such a scenario was at all remotely likely. Directors of an alleged multi billion dollar series of connected underground projects, wanted access to Steven Gibbs via phone call, a man with simple ‘boy scout’ knowledge and who crudely taped caduceus coils to plastic boxes in order to sell them as TT devices. It was as laughable as it was disturbing to listen to. I have known him accuse others of being reptiles and all manner of things. This only ever occurred when they queried an element of his theory or he mistook their curiosity for challenge. Again at which point he would become manic and hyper-aroused (again a different form of reasoning bias was at play). He was a man on the edge and I don’t mean this in a ‘trouble genius’ way. He was not an overly smart man. His ‘materials’ and ebooks were low level electrical engineering skills mixed with fantasy and - at the time - pop-culture esoteric sci-fi with notions of lost Atlantean technology. </p><p></p><p>As with regards to the Art Bell interviews. Art Bell was for entertainment at best. Some of the dross he put out there is plain embarrassing. However, in my younger years it was like Netflix…before netflix.</p><p></p><p>I have met a few spiritual creatures in my time. Some quite prominent ones. while they may have their quirks (we are all human), ALL were very grounded underneath it all. Even when discussing what others might seem fantastical. Some of them had tempers and short fuses, but one thing that never set them off, was a disbelief in what they were saying.</p><p></p><p>Gibbs, on the other hand was prone to becoming near hysterical. I can’t stress enough, Gibbs should not be put on the same playing field as either ‘spiritually enlightened’ or a ‘genius’. There is nothing about his spirituality that is evidence of self-development and compassionate understanding. Rather it’s is classic religious doctrine, clearly instilled in him since childhood. The reason why he was stumped at religious questions, is that most of them references a world outside of his box. He would find a way to eventually link it back, crudely. Which is often when he made the least sense.</p><p></p><p>Your point about Gibbs (I now recall this myself as you jog my memory) once stating a doctor used an HDR and authorities suspending his license, was just classic Gibbs. Pure conjecture and there is no substance or detail delivered with this tale. Gibbs had a habit of spouting what came into his head, or things misconstrued by other people which then became something else in his mind (the HDR unit itself is very much that).</p><p></p><p>That being said, If a doctor is using an HDR on patients, they should be struck off without hesitation. There’s no ‘men in black’ angle to this. They are simply a terrible and dangerous professional.</p><p></p><p>There is no evidence for any of these radionics machines working in a way that they are billed. All are sold as experimental electronic devices for a reason. Of all the countless hundreds and thousands sold, no one has ever relayed anything that wasn’t anecdotal, highly subjective or simply an account told by a friend of a friend. It make sound like I am targeting Gibbs, but I have not personal dislike of Gibbs. He’s simply a bit of a poster child for this sector of snake oil. My comments could be levelled at many others. </p><p></p><p>Experiences with an HDR will be due to disruption of the bodies own EM fields.</p><p></p><p>Initially you may take this as an endorsement for them. It’s not. The specific narratives behind them are fake. However, it doesn’t necessarily mean they won’t cause changes within you. It’s akin to handing someone a grenade with a load of alternate pseudo science about Kenetic energy, then saying this device can cause you to change shape or go into a different form entirely, within a split second. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As for HDR kid and Carlos, i would have to agree to disagree there. Peope do not speak and write in the same tone entirely. However there are SO many more nuanced similarities that do coincide. I’d happily put money on this. And I definitely not a betting man. The reason I mention this, is because this character does get mentioned alongside the HDR. And they/he have acted almost like a PR mouthpiece for the HDR for over 20 years. Carlos’s even going as far to release absolute mess of an ebook. Possibly one of the most self-indulgent, delusions of grandeur I have ever had the misfortune of reading.</p><p></p><p>As for whether I had an HDR, yes I do I have a few radionics devices from the old days. Relics really. Some of the HDR elements do still interest me, but certainly not for astral or Time travel.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Silent_Starling, post: 255472, member: 15720"] Hi Hermit, I’m not sure if you were implying I had a sour experience with Gibbs? If so - no I have not. I spoke to him at length on a couple of occasions. My current opinions were formed later and in retrospect. Without emotion, though I have a strong inclination to ensure people are informed better. I did not have a negative experience with him. I have met with people later in life, learnt many things and ‘revisited’ older times and topics with that more balanced mindset, filling in blanks and piecing together related topics. One could level the argument that this (natural process) comes with a heavy dose of reasoning bias. Barring in mind I am accusing Gibbs of the same thing. However, there is a form of ‘healthy’ reasoning bias in the common population. Then there is that which can be categorised as symptomatic of delusional disorders. My opinion of Gibbs is different to that of my more childlike like mind. Baring in mind this is over 20 years ago. Gibbs took the time to speak to me. I would be grateful, if it were not for the fact he clearly got more out of these interactions than the listener did (keeping in mind the delusional disorder slant). It simply is what it was. I recall at one stage he got rather flustered in himself, and became almost manic suggesting that the people behind the Montauk project were calling him for his esoteric and electronics expertise. As if such a scenario was at all remotely likely. Directors of an alleged multi billion dollar series of connected underground projects, wanted access to Steven Gibbs via phone call, a man with simple ‘boy scout’ knowledge and who crudely taped caduceus coils to plastic boxes in order to sell them as TT devices. It was as laughable as it was disturbing to listen to. I have known him accuse others of being reptiles and all manner of things. This only ever occurred when they queried an element of his theory or he mistook their curiosity for challenge. Again at which point he would become manic and hyper-aroused (again a different form of reasoning bias was at play). He was a man on the edge and I don’t mean this in a ‘trouble genius’ way. He was not an overly smart man. His ‘materials’ and ebooks were low level electrical engineering skills mixed with fantasy and - at the time - pop-culture esoteric sci-fi with notions of lost Atlantean technology. As with regards to the Art Bell interviews. Art Bell was for entertainment at best. Some of the dross he put out there is plain embarrassing. However, in my younger years it was like Netflix…before netflix. I have met a few spiritual creatures in my time. Some quite prominent ones. while they may have their quirks (we are all human), ALL were very grounded underneath it all. Even when discussing what others might seem fantastical. Some of them had tempers and short fuses, but one thing that never set them off, was a disbelief in what they were saying. Gibbs, on the other hand was prone to becoming near hysterical. I can’t stress enough, Gibbs should not be put on the same playing field as either ‘spiritually enlightened’ or a ‘genius’. There is nothing about his spirituality that is evidence of self-development and compassionate understanding. Rather it’s is classic religious doctrine, clearly instilled in him since childhood. The reason why he was stumped at religious questions, is that most of them references a world outside of his box. He would find a way to eventually link it back, crudely. Which is often when he made the least sense. Your point about Gibbs (I now recall this myself as you jog my memory) once stating a doctor used an HDR and authorities suspending his license, was just classic Gibbs. Pure conjecture and there is no substance or detail delivered with this tale. Gibbs had a habit of spouting what came into his head, or things misconstrued by other people which then became something else in his mind (the HDR unit itself is very much that). That being said, If a doctor is using an HDR on patients, they should be struck off without hesitation. There’s no ‘men in black’ angle to this. They are simply a terrible and dangerous professional. There is no evidence for any of these radionics machines working in a way that they are billed. All are sold as experimental electronic devices for a reason. Of all the countless hundreds and thousands sold, no one has ever relayed anything that wasn’t anecdotal, highly subjective or simply an account told by a friend of a friend. It make sound like I am targeting Gibbs, but I have not personal dislike of Gibbs. He’s simply a bit of a poster child for this sector of snake oil. My comments could be levelled at many others. Experiences with an HDR will be due to disruption of the bodies own EM fields. Initially you may take this as an endorsement for them. It’s not. The specific narratives behind them are fake. However, it doesn’t necessarily mean they won’t cause changes within you. It’s akin to handing someone a grenade with a load of alternate pseudo science about Kenetic energy, then saying this device can cause you to change shape or go into a different form entirely, within a split second. As for HDR kid and Carlos, i would have to agree to disagree there. Peope do not speak and write in the same tone entirely. However there are SO many more nuanced similarities that do coincide. I’d happily put money on this. And I definitely not a betting man. The reason I mention this, is because this character does get mentioned alongside the HDR. And they/he have acted almost like a PR mouthpiece for the HDR for over 20 years. Carlos’s even going as far to release absolute mess of an ebook. Possibly one of the most self-indulgent, delusions of grandeur I have ever had the misfortune of reading. As for whether I had an HDR, yes I do I have a few radionics devices from the old days. Relics really. Some of the HDR elements do still interest me, but certainly not for astral or Time travel. [/QUOTE]
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