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Are you ready for 2012?

Discussion in 'Doomsday Scenarios and 2012' started by Samstwitch, Dec 15, 2011.

  1. Samstwitch Active Member



    That first video that I posted in the opening comment was removed. Here's another one that I think is the same:


  2. Graveyard Hound Active Member

    After being in combat, I don't think the end of time, civilization, etc., could be much worst that watching your friends get shot, having to leve some that died and their bodies were left behind, so don't talk me about what if's, what if's aren''t real, they don't bleed, they don't die in your arms, sh**. Be there when the end does come and you don't see it coming.


  3. Samstwitch Active Member


    I'm sorry for your misfortune. Many of us have lost loved ones, but that is not what this topic is about. This is about getting ready for possible damage and mishay from Solar Flares in 2012-2013.

    In the past 2 years, thousands of people have died from earthquakes, tsunamis, tornadoes, radiation, and many other disasters on earth. If we have warning of another possible disaster, we should prepare for it without being reprimanded, and to avoid further loss of life. We must be wise and prudent.


  4. Samstwitch Active Member

    Today's Headline:

    STRONGEST SOLAR STORM SINCE 2005 HITTING EARTH

    WASHINGTON (AP) — The sun is bombarding Earth with radiation from the biggest solar storm in more than six years with more to come from the fast-moving eruption.

    The solar flare occurred at about 11 p.m. EST Sunday and will hit Earth with three different effects at three different times. The biggest issue is radiation, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Space Weather Prediction Center in Colorado.
    The radiation is mostly a concern for satellite disruptions and astronauts in space. It can cause communication problems for polar-traveling airplanes, said space weather center physicist Doug Biesecker.

    Radiation from Sunday's flare arrived at Earth an hour later and will likely continue through Wednesday. Levels are considered strong but other storms have been more severe. There are two higher levels of radiation on NOAA's storm scale — severe and extreme — Biesecker said. Still, this storm is the strongest for radiation since May 2005.

    The radiation — in the form of protons — came flying out of the sun at 93 million miles per hour.

    "The whole volume of space between here and Jupiter is just filled with protons and you just don't get rid of them like that," Biesecker said. That's why the effects will stick around for a couple days.

    NASA's flight surgeons and solar experts examined the solar flare's expected effects and decided that the six astronauts on the International Space Station do not have to do anything to protect themselves from the radiation, spokesman Rob Navias said.
    A solar eruption is followed by a one-two-three punch, said Antti Pulkkinen, a physicist at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland and Catholic University.

    First comes electromagnetic radiation, followed by radiation in the form of protons. Then, finally the coronal mass ejection — that's the plasma from the sun itself — hits. Usually that travels at about 1 or 2 million miles per hour, but this storm is particularly speedy and is shooting out at 4 million miles per hour, Biesecker said.

    It's the plasma that causes much of the noticeable problems on Earth, such as electrical grid outages. In 1989, a solar storm caused a massive blackout in Quebec. It can also pull the northern lights further south.

    But this coronal mass ejection seems likely to be only moderate, with a chance for becoming strong, Biesecker said. The worst of the storm is likely to go north of Earth.

    And unlike last October, when a freak solar storm caused auroras to be seen as far south as Alabama, the northern lights aren't likely to dip too far south this time, Biesecker said. Parts of New England, upstate New York, northern Michigan, Montana and the Pacific Northwest could see an aurora but not until Tuesday evening, he said.

    For the past several years the sun had been quiet, almost too quiet. Part of that was the normal calm part of the sun's 11-year cycle of activity. Last year, scientists started to speculate that the sun was going into an unusually quiet cycle that seems to happen maybe once a century or so.

    Now that super-quiet cycle doesn't seem as likely, Biesecker said.

    Scientists watching the sun with a new NASA satellite launched in 2010 — during the sun's quiet period — are excited.
    "We haven't had anything like this for a number of years," Pulkkinen said. "It's kind of special."
    ___
    NOAA's Space Weather Prediction Center: http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/
    NASA's Solar Dynamics Observatory: http://sdo.gsfc.nasa.gov/
    SOURCE: http://news.yahoo.com/strongest-solar-storm-since-2005-hitting-earth-163628746.html


  5. Numenorean7 Administrator

    It's interesting how we hear about solar flares in the news since a few years. We seem to stumble upon those articles much more often than back then. Nice find.

    Do you believe a giant solar flare is a likely scenario?
  6. Samstwitch Active Member

    It already happened in 1859 (Michio Kaku says it happens every 100 years)...In our time, in Canada the city of Quebec was partially paralized, and 2003 in South Africa 14 Power Stations were wiped out, all because of Solar Flares. There is a giant hole in the earth's magnetic field (the magnetic field protects us from Solar Flares), and the hole is 10 times larger than anyone imagined. NASA has officially warned that 2012 is expected to get huge Solar Flares, so YES I do think it is a likely scenario.

    Only time will tell. Prepare for the worst, and hope for the best. That old saying, 'An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure', is true.
  7. Samstwitch Active Member

    Today's Headline:
    'Space Hurricane': Huge Solar Storm Is Pounding Earth Now


    A wave of charged particles from an intense solar storm is pummeling the Earth right now, which may trigger stunning aurora displays and cause minor disruptions to satellites over the next two days, NASA scientists say.

    The storm began when a powerful solar flare erupted on the sun yesterday (Jan. 23), blasting a stream of charged particles toward Earth. This electromagnetic burst, called a coronal mass ejection (CME), hit Earth at about 9:31 a.m. EST (1430 GMT), according to scientists at the Space Weather Center at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Md.

    "It's a minor to moderate storm," Yihua Zheng, a lead researcher at the Space Weather Center, told SPACE.com. "Probably in the next 10 hours or so, people at high latitudes can see auroras. This could maybe cause communication errors at the polar caps, but the magnetic activities are probably not too strong."

    The northern lights displays will be especially visible for people in northern latitudes where it is currently night.
    "For parts of Europe already, and further points to the east, we should expect to see strong magnetic storm conditions," Harlan Spence, an astrophysicist at the University of New Hampshire, director of its Institute for the Study of Earth, Oceans, and Space, told SPACE.com. "There's a very good chance tonight that we'll be seeing some very strong auroral displays. Typically auroras occur at relatively high latitudes, but for events like this, you could get auroras down at mid to low latitudes."

    When a coronal mass ejection hits Earth, it can trigger potentially harmful geomagnetic storms as the charged particles and the fields within it interact with the planet's magnetic field lines. This can amp up normal displays of Earth's auroras (also known as the northern and southern lights), but a strong CME aimed directly at Earth can also cause disruptions to satellites in orbit, as well as power grids and communications infrastructures on the ground.

    Yesterday's solar flare set off an extremely fast-moving CME, Zheng said, and the associated radiation storm was the strongest since 2005. But the ejected cloud of plasma and charged particles was not directly aimed at Earth, and is hitting the planet at an angle instead. This glancing blow will likely lessen any impacts on Earth, she added. [Photos: Huge Solar Flare Sparks Major Radiation Storm]
    "Earth's magnetic field served as a shield, and pretty much shielded the radiation so that it doesn't penetrate that deep," Zheng said. "It's like a car collision: head-on or off to the side. A CME is like that too. For this one, if it was a direct hit, Earth would receive a much stronger impact. This one was on an angle — toward higher latitudes and a little off the ecliptic — otherwise it would be a much stronger impact."
    Still, the storm does rank as the biggest space radiation event in about seven years, Spence said.

    "It's not as big as some of the big, historic storms, but the chance for re-intensification is still possible because this active spot on the sun that created the initial havoc could go off again," he explained.

    Several NASA satellites, including the Solar Dynamics Observatory, the Solar Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO), and the Stereo spacecraft observed the massive sun storm. Data from these spacecraft were combined to help scientists create models to calculate when and where the CME was going to hit Earth.

    "A CME is kind of like a space hurricane," Zheng said. "You have to predict how it will form and evolve. From the models, we can see which spacecraft will be in its path, and what will be impacted."

    At the Space Weather Center, scientists were able to pinpoint the arrival of the CME more accurately than ever before.
    "We predicted it would arrive at 9:18 a.m. and in reality, it arrived at 9:31 a.m., so ours has a 13-minute error," Zheng said. "Usually for this kind of model, the average error is seven hours, so this is the best case."

    Yesterday's solar flare was rated an M9-class eruption, which placed it teetering on the edge of being an X-class flare, the most powerful type of solar storm. M-class sun storms are powerful but mid-range, while C-class flares are weaker.

    The flare erupted from sunspot 1402, a region near the meridian of the sun that has been active for a while now, Zheng said. The powerful solar storm could be signaling that the sun is waking up after an extended period of relative dormancy.

    The sun's activity waxes and wanes on an 11-year cycle. The star is currently in the midst of Solar Cycle 24, and activity is expected to continue ramping up toward the solar maximum in 2013.

  8. ZeoEmeraude Active Member

    I found this cool photo from Norway in response to last night's light show. I think it looks like a pheonix...but you be the judge. [IMG]
  9. Samstwitch Active Member


    Oh my stars, that's incredible! Thanks for posting. :)

    You can see Videos here (click green Headline):
    Videos show giant solar flares, ensuing aurora borealis
  10. Crethox Active Member

    I wish i would have been able to see it with my own eyes, no luck, too clouded. Darn dutch weather lol
  11. Samstwitch Active Member

    I posted this on another thread HERE Click Me, but I think it's relevant here as well. This week in downtown Los Angeles, CA the U.S. military is having Urban Warfare Training exercises. They could be training the military for the anticipated upcoming Solar Flare disruption (power grid failure) as predicted by NASA, scientists, physicists. i.e. Michio Kaku, etc.

    Back in 1999, the U.S. military also had Urban Warfare Training exercises in Oakland, CA and in other major cities in preparation for Y2K, because the U.S. government knew it was a real problem (the President had a Y2K Conversion Team addressing the Y2K bug), but they didn't know if everything would be fixed in time...so they had the Urban Warfare Training.

    Here is an article on Alex Jones' Prison Planet about today's Urban Warfare Training in L.A....(click on green Headline for link)

    Helicopters To Buzz Downtown LA In Urban Warfare Drill

    January 25, 2012: Joint military training exercises involving helicopters are being conducted in downtown LA all this week through Thursday with the police providing support, according to a statement issued by the LAPD.

    As reported by CBS News, the LAPD statement says that the exercises, closed to the public, are “designed to ensure the military’s ability to operate in urban environments, prepare forces for upcoming overseas deployments, and meet mandatory training certification requirements.”

    Training sites “have been carefully selected to ensure the event does not negatively impact the citizens of Los Angeles and their daily routine,” a department spokesperson said. Police also noted that the training, which has been coordinated with local authorities, involves helicopters. At time of writing we have not received any reports of military activity in downtown LA or the Greater Los Angeles area.

    The exercise is yet another in a spate of recent military drills to hit heavily populated areas throughout the country. Back in April last year, residents of Brickell, Miami witnessed at least three large Black Hawk-like helicopters conducting military exercises over their heads. Some initially believed it was a movie shoot.

    Commenting on this week’s scheduled drill in LA, Rob Richardson of Off Grid Survival notes: “Maybe it’s just the prepper in me, but when I heard the U.S. Military will be conducting a massive training exercise in the streets of Los Angeles I must say it made me feel a little uneasy. And how could it not?”

    “With the passage of the National Defense Authorization Act, which gives the President the power to arrest and detain American Citizens, it makes one wonder why the military is conducting drills in Urban America. While it could be, as LAPD insists, just a training exercise the timing sure does make you wonder what’s going on.”
  12. Graveyard Hound Active Member

    Maybe a Trident Class submarine will have a masssive shortage to her misslle silos aand we'll have 24 ICBMs, with MIRVs heading all over wherever aand we won't be too concerned about all the other bad things that are going to happen, unless this event happens on 12/31/20, at 11:59PM.
  13. Samstwitch Active Member

    Maybe I'm taking it wrong, but it sounded that way to me.
  14. ZeoEmeraude Active Member

    What's wrong with Graveyard's post Sam? I mean, it doesn't have any form of harassment in the post IMHO. We all have the right to respond to posts, however positive or negative the message may seem to others. Let's keep the flow of communication open, and we can all enjoy the thread. The content in his post harbors no ill will toward anyone posting.
  15. Samstwitch Active Member

    Bet Cameron is getting out of the USA before the sh*t hits the fan. (Click on the Green Title for Source)

    James Cameron plans move to New Zealand farm

    WELLINGTON, New Zealand (AP) February 2, 2012 — Hollywood director James Cameron is planning to move onto a New Zealand farm. Cameron has successfully applied to buy 1,067 hectares (2,636 acres) of farmland in New Zealand. In an application filed with the New Zealand Overseas Investment Office, Cameron says he and his family "intend to reside indefinitely in New Zealand and are acquiring the property to reside on and operate as a working farm."

    Cameron, a Canadian, directed two of Hollywood's most successful films, "Titanic" and "Avatar." He could not be immediately contacted by The Associated Press Thursday, but it's believed he will move to New Zealand this year to film the sequel to "Avatar."
    The rural properties are about a 90-minute drive from Wellington, home to Weta Digital, which won an Oscar for its visual effects work on the first "Avatar" movie.
  16. Himalayan Hermit Active Member

    I'm just looking at the weird weather pattern this year when literally no winter has come to North America (US at least), snow is hardly anywhere but Europe is shivering in winter and countries like India have had unusual winter and snow fall (in himalayas)..
  17. HDRKID Active Member

    Oh, it is so easy to be pleasant when life flows by you like a song. However, the man worth knowing is he who can smile when everything goes so wrong. Debunkers are spewing profanity at me right now. That said, can imagine when there is no food in the grocery. When there are no working cars. I repeat, can you imagine.
  18. Rosco..Jones Active Member

    I've been looking into earthquakes lately. I posted a video on the Japan 2011 quakes that has me worried. I just found one on today's 6.0 Oregon quake and recent quake activity in the west-southwest regions. The appears to be a connection with recent quakes and long dormant volcanoes. Yikes! Could be something major brewing for 2012.





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  19. Crethox Active Member

    As far as I know the relation between volcanoes and fault lines across the world is known. We have seen that occur with Indonesian volcanoes erupting in the area and within days another volcano on that fault line would erupt or go active also. As long as there is enough pressure built up within a volcano nothing can stop the chain-reaction of that phenomena, skipping the volcanoes which haven't build up enough pressure.

    It would be very scary if every volcano builds up so much pressure they would get active one after another. Though I don't think we have reached that point yet in Earth's history.

    "Not sure if I make sense, too early for me to write posts, need more coffee lol"
  20. Rosco..Jones Active Member

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