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<blockquote data-quote="Sonix" data-source="post: 184729" data-attributes="member: 10954"><p>[USER=443]@Harte[/USER] , I rode two buses today, ate three meals, and visited family. Apparently, because you have no idea who I am and therefore have no access to evidence of any of these things, you are sitting on evidence that these buses, meals and relatives of mine don't exist. Apparently you also have evidence that every word spoken during the history of humankind that wasn't recorded was never spoken, that every tree that fell in the forest with no witness never fell, and that the uncharted depths of deep deep sea are unpopulated. Alternatively, we could admit that we don't require "evidence" as a magical touchstone to be the sole determination of what we believe. When I let my dog out the back door I do not imagine he is now roaming the streets of Paris, Rome or Moscow. This is not because I have a lack of evidence of my dog being in those distant places and have a belief that this lack of evidence is somehow evidence that my dog is not there. I don't suspect my dog is in these distant places because I have built beliefs and expectations about the world, a model of the world in which I can imagine no conceivable way that my dog could be transported to these places so quickly. That I have in the past found my dog staying close to the stoop is not evidence, however weak, that he is there now. That does not mean that I cannot reasonably expect that my dog will be near the stoop. Our means of navigating the world are much more sophisticated that the simple summing of evidence that you suggest it is and we do not lose our bearings by refusing to recognize lack of evidence to be evidence of lack. I do not believe the Inuit vacationed in South Florida. I'd be willing to consider alternatives to that belief if evidence were provided or my understanding of the world drastically changed. But I have as much evidence that the Inuit were not in Flordia as I do that you do not have a mustache - and I have no evidence whether you have a mustache one way or another. But I am at a disadvantage - you seem to have evidence to support me not having one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sonix, post: 184729, member: 10954"] [USER=443]@Harte[/USER] , I rode two buses today, ate three meals, and visited family. Apparently, because you have no idea who I am and therefore have no access to evidence of any of these things, you are sitting on evidence that these buses, meals and relatives of mine don't exist. Apparently you also have evidence that every word spoken during the history of humankind that wasn't recorded was never spoken, that every tree that fell in the forest with no witness never fell, and that the uncharted depths of deep deep sea are unpopulated. Alternatively, we could admit that we don't require "evidence" as a magical touchstone to be the sole determination of what we believe. When I let my dog out the back door I do not imagine he is now roaming the streets of Paris, Rome or Moscow. This is not because I have a lack of evidence of my dog being in those distant places and have a belief that this lack of evidence is somehow evidence that my dog is not there. I don't suspect my dog is in these distant places because I have built beliefs and expectations about the world, a model of the world in which I can imagine no conceivable way that my dog could be transported to these places so quickly. That I have in the past found my dog staying close to the stoop is not evidence, however weak, that he is there now. That does not mean that I cannot reasonably expect that my dog will be near the stoop. Our means of navigating the world are much more sophisticated that the simple summing of evidence that you suggest it is and we do not lose our bearings by refusing to recognize lack of evidence to be evidence of lack. I do not believe the Inuit vacationed in South Florida. I'd be willing to consider alternatives to that belief if evidence were provided or my understanding of the world drastically changed. But I have as much evidence that the Inuit were not in Flordia as I do that you do not have a mustache - and I have no evidence whether you have a mustache one way or another. But I am at a disadvantage - you seem to have evidence to support me not having one. [/QUOTE]
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