Bible Prophecies Chat Event: November 24th 2011, 8:30 Pm Est

What do you know about Bible Prophecies?

Bible prophecy or biblical prophecy is the prediction of future events based on the action, function, or faculty of a prophet. Such passages are widely distributed throughout the Bible, but those most often cited are from Ezekiel, Daniel, Matthew 24, Matthew 25, and Revelation. Believers in biblical prophecy engage in exegesis and hermeneutics of scriptures which they believe contain descriptions of global politics, natural disasters, the future of the nation of Israel, the coming of a Messiah and a Messianic Kingdom, and the ultimate destiny of humankind.

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Bible Prophecies Chat Event: November 24th 2011, 8:30 Pm Est

Sorry I missed this one too! Sheesh, I'm missing all the good Chats. Hopefully not the next one.

Here is the log!

2011-11-24 20:22:23 JasperMoon: I'm here. I'll wait to see who comes in as well.
2011-11-24 20:35:49 Numenorean7: Here I am!
2011-11-24 20:36:06 Numenorean7: Are you guys around?
2011-11-24 20:36:15 blaquejacques: hi
2011-11-24 20:36:27 blaquejacques: right here
2011-11-24 20:36:30 JasperMoon: I'm here watching harry potter
2011-11-24 20:36:57 Numenorean7: Which one?
2011-11-24 20:37:13 JasperMoon: part two
2011-11-24 20:37:27 Numenorean7: Did you watch the latest one? It's pretty awesome.
2011-11-24 20:37:40 JasperMoon: that;s the one
2011-11-24 20:37:51 Numenorean7: Oh ok, number 7, part 2.
2011-11-24 20:38:45 Numenorean7: I'm almost late, I fell asleep.
2011-11-24 20:38:57 JasperMoon: turkey
2011-11-24 20:39:04 Numenorean7: lol
2011-11-24 20:40:01 JasperMoon: and all that stuffing
2011-11-24 20:42:26 Numenorean7: So, how are you guys?
2011-11-24 20:42:54 JasperMoon: think I caught cold today
2011-11-24 20:43:00 JasperMoon: I'msniffling tonight
2011-11-24 20:43:16 Numenorean7: I had a few colds in the last 2 weeks.
2011-11-24 20:43:27 Numenorean7: I'm alright now, at last.
2011-11-24 20:44:54 JasperMoon: achoo!
2011-11-24 20:45:19 JasperMoon: did some housecleaning today whille I had the chance. We're having our dinner tomorrow
2011-11-24 20:46:38 JasperMoon: howdy
2011-11-24 20:46:47 cmac: hey
2011-11-24 20:46:56 Numenorean7: Hey!
2011-11-24 20:47:03 JasperMoon: vo;demort is dead
2011-11-24 20:47:42 cmac: who is voldemort?
2011-11-24 20:48:23 JasperMoon: Tom Riddle
2011-11-24 20:48:30 JasperMoon: Harry Potter's evil enemy
2011-11-24 20:49:41 Numenorean7: 96I watched the last one last week, it's awesome.
2011-11-24 20:50:22 JasperMoon: it's very good yes
2011-11-24 20:51:37 Numenorean7: Do you guys wanna talk about Bible Prophecies?
2011-11-24 20:53:03 Numenorean7: I don't know a whole lot on the subject, but I'm pretty sure some of us do.
2011-11-24 20:53:26 cmac: Lets see where it goes
2011-11-24 20:54:50 Numenorean7: Are prophecies supposed to be obvious, or are we supposed to find them out and understand them by ourselves?
2011-11-24 20:55:21 Numenorean7: We see a lot of websites about those prophecies online, Doom and Gloom, etc.
2011-11-24 20:55:29 JasperMoon: They are very straight forward in several places. Have you read the book of Daniel?
2011-11-24 20:55:39 Numenorean7: THey pretend to promote Bible prophecies, 2012, etc.
2011-11-24 20:55:54 Numenorean7: No, I didn't read the book of Daniel.
2011-11-24 20:55:59 JasperMoon: better you go to www.khouse.org
2011-11-24 20:56:21 JasperMoon: That book is mostly prophecy.
2011-11-24 20:56:31 Numenorean7: What kind?
2011-11-24 20:56:50 JasperMoon: Thre is the dream of the king that Daniel analyzes for him
2011-11-24 20:57:26 JasperMoon: The kind has dream of a humongous statue standing in the desert--I think that's where it begins
2011-11-24 20:57:29 JasperMoon: let me check that out.
2011-11-24 21:00:53 JasperMoon: it starts Daniel 2:31
2011-11-24 21:01:29 JasperMoon: it says it stood before you of exceeding prightness and it was frightening.
2011-11-24 21:02:15 JasperMoon: the head was of fine gold, the breat and arms of silver, its belly and thighs of bronze its legs of iron and its fee of partly iron and partly miery clay.
2011-11-24 21:02:35 JasperMoon: miery means its like the cement we make today.
2011-11-24 21:03:22 JasperMoon: Daniel intrpreted it as thus: the head was the king of king nebuchanezzer that was the greatest kingdom in the land.
2011-11-24 21:06:09 JasperMoon: next the kingdom that followswill be inferior--the silver represents I gotta check this one out too
2011-11-24 21:07:46 JasperMoon: the first one is Babylonia, the next one is Persia, the third one of bornze is Greece and the iron legs will be Rome.
2011-11-24 21:08:04 JasperMoon: The metals all stand for what the kingdoms based their economy, power upon.
2011-11-24 21:08:23 JasperMoon: And rome was divided into two parts--two legs--the east and the west.
2011-11-24 21:09:27 JasperMoon: the experts today say the feet represent the rprised Roman Empire that is forming today.
2011-11-24 21:10:47 JasperMoon: I believe it because Hal Lindsay has recently reported that European Union is breaking up and reforming into 10 sectors (kingdoms) the ten toes.
2011-11-24 21:12:05 JasperMoon: This prophecy was supposed to inform Nebuchanezzer of the future of the kingdoms that would follow his after.
2011-11-24 21:12:28 blaquejacques: couldn't it be the medieval kingdoms that followed rome?
2011-11-24 21:12:35 JasperMoon: Next there is Ezekiel's Chapter 35 36 37 and 38
2011-11-24 21:12:59 Numenorean7: hmm
2011-11-24 21:13:28 JasperMoon: no because they were not formed together, they were always fighting and warring and didn't come together until Charlesmagne put them together, but they didn't last after he died
2011-11-24 21:14:40 JasperMoon: there have been kings and queens trying to put them all together since then but no one really succeeded. Not even Napolean, he lost England and Russia.
2011-11-24 21:14:58 JasperMoon: And adolph made the same mistake--lost England and Russia
2011-11-24 21:15:37 JasperMoon: But today. England is pretty much entrenched in the european union and though separate Russia has trading ties with the countries.
2011-11-24 21:16:23 JasperMoon: Ezekiel speaks of the Russian Middle East alliance that will start up a war.
2011-11-24 21:16:31 JasperMoon: We are already to that point
2011-11-24 21:17:03 JasperMoon: Ezekiel also speaks of the valley of Dry Bones which speaks of Israel coming back into the land and becoming a state
2011-11-24 21:17:45 blaquejacques: hmmm...
2011-11-24 21:20:05 JasperMoon: We need to tie Daniel and Ezekiel together here with Israel. Daniel gives the numbers of the decrees which will bring this into being--it gives the days and years, and ezekiel speaks of Israel becoming a state. I'll find the commentary for you.
2011-11-24 21:20:21 JasperMoon: http://www.khouse.org/articles/2004/552/
2011-11-24 21:22:33 JasperMoon: http://www.khouse.org/articles/2009/829/print/
2011-11-24 21:22:49 JasperMoon: this should help you out the second one has an mp3 attached
2011-11-24 21:23:29 JasperMoon: Isiah is full of prophecies
2011-11-24 21:23:48 JasperMoon: are there any specific you want to talk about?
2011-11-24 21:26:30 JasperMoon: did you all fall asleep?
2011-11-24 21:26:47 Numenorean7: No, I'm not asleep!
2011-11-24 21:27:00 Numenorean7: Obviously, you know much more than I do!
2011-11-24 21:27:00 JasperMoon: worked off that turkey!
2011-11-24 21:27:25 JasperMoon: well what do you want to know, is there a prophecy that I can help you on?
2011-11-24 21:28:03 Numenorean7: None that I can think of.
2011-11-24 21:28:32 JasperMoon: so we'll continue on There are some Psalms that are purported to have prophecies in them
2011-11-24 21:28:38 Numenorean7: Sure
2011-11-24 21:29:48 JasperMoon: Psalm 83 if you do not have a Bible I'll type the verses in for you
2011-11-24 21:30:05 blaquejacques: these prophecies are all quite open to interpretation, I mean the old texts are very hermetic and I doubt that without prior knowledge of the codes... there is a lot tha gets lost.
2011-11-24 21:30:36 JasperMoon: Okay, I see where you are coming from it could be interpreted that way. Let me show you something here
2011-11-24 21:30:58 JasperMoon: Psalm 83: O god, do not keep silence; do not hold thy peace or be still, O God!
2011-11-24 21:31:28 JasperMoon: For lo, thy enemies are in tumult; those who hate thee have raised their heads. They lay crafty plans against thy people (jews);
2011-11-24 21:32:07 JasperMoon: they consult togther against thye protected ones; They say, "Come, let us wupe them out as a nation; let the nema of israel be remembered no more!"
2011-11-24 21:32:25 JasperMoon: Did machmud Abdinijad just they exactly this not too many moons ago?
2011-11-24 21:32:42 JasperMoon: wupe is wipe
2011-11-24 21:32:50 JasperMoon: nema is name
2011-11-24 21:33:11 JasperMoon: they is supposed to be say
2011-11-24 21:34:18 blaquejacques: hitler too, stalin too, there was a lot of persecutions against the jews... from heads of states a lot of the times...
2011-11-24 21:35:02 JasperMoon: Yea, they conspire with one accord against thee they make a covenant (sacred contract) the tents of Edom (land of Iran and Iraq) AND THE ISHMAELITES (these are the Muslims they even say they are decended from Ishmael.)
2011-11-24 21:36:28 JasperMoon: Moab and the Hagrites. Gebal and Ammon and Amalek, Philistia and the inhabitants of Tyre (the lands that surround Israel on all sides) Assyria (Syria) also has joined them; they are the stron arm of the children of Lot.(Abraham's nephew who lived in Sodom and Gomorrah of legend)
2011-11-24 21:37:03 JasperMoon: yes, they all murdered the jews and many others during world war II and even during the cold war time.
2011-11-24 21:37:48 JasperMoon: there was a history channel video on the tv not too long ago about the Holocaust all those photos that were taken and all those who were killed in them.
2011-11-24 21:38:12 blaquejacques: don't forget the pogroms of tsarist russia.
2011-11-24 21:38:49 JasperMoon: Make all thier nobles all their princes who said, "Let us take possession for ourselves of the pastures of God."
2011-11-24 21:39:04 JasperMoon: The land of Israel is said in the scriptures to be God's own land.
2011-11-24 21:39:37 JasperMoon: There's another one I have to look for it.
2011-11-24 21:40:27 blaquejacques: but there are no maps of where it was supposed to be originally. it could be somewhere else in the region.
2011-11-24 21:41:06 JasperMoon: yes, there are maps
2011-11-24 21:42:08 blaquejacques: where?
2011-11-24 21:44:05 JasperMoon: http://www.levitt.tv/media/watch/1122 this one should have a map in the video
2011-11-24 21:45:13 JasperMoon: http://www.levitt.tv/media/watch/1122
2011-11-24 21:45:21 JasperMoon: This one talks about land ownership
2011-11-24 21:46:57 JasperMoon: http://bukupuisi.multiply.com/journal/item/58 here is another map for you to look at
2011-11-24 21:50:22 JasperMoon: http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Facts About Israel/Israel in Maps/ This one might help, too.
2011-11-24 21:54:10 blaquejacques: that last one is quite interesting.
2011-11-24 21:55:05 JasperMoon: it looks like it has modern and ancient maps on the site
2011-11-24 21:58:49 JasperMoon: I can't find the Psalm I want to direct you to. I'll have to look and post it later. I have a few things I still need to post anyway.
2011-11-24 21:59:17 blaquejacques: the overlay of ancient borders with the current ones is really informative. the borders are really fluctuating a lot through the centuries.
2011-11-24 21:59:34 JasperMoon: one last major prophecy book is Revelation.
2011-11-24 21:59:51 JasperMoon: yes, it is very interesting how the boundaries have changed over the centuries and even decades
2011-11-24 22:00:24 JasperMoon: the minor prophets are good, but they need to be looked at more closely than I can do it tonight.
2011-11-24 22:01:00 JasperMoon: jeremiah for instance
2011-11-24 22:02:22 blaquejacques: does enoch count?
2011-11-24 22:02:51 JasperMoon: you are probably looking at maps that the major networks won't tell you exist or have existed. Many are begining to tell you Israel never existed. But as you can see it did and it still does. The Romans named it Palestine to make fun and deride the Jews whowere still living there at the time. They were virtually slaves for the Romans
2011-11-24 22:03:27 JasperMoon: This is where King Herod comes in. He was a Hashamite Jew from the lands that surround Israel,Jordan I think.
2011-11-24 22:04:08 JasperMoon: He was appointed king of the jews by the romans he had the bloodline from previous kings, but even though he was a jew he didn't follow the religion or the laws of the Torah
2011-11-24 22:05:01 JasperMoon: even if you are told Israel really wasn't a country, these people cannot disput the existence of King Herod. He is in the Roman history books as the Jewish king.
2011-11-24 22:05:38 JasperMoon: Absolutely Enoch counts. There are several prophecies in the book of Enoch
2011-11-24 22:06:07 blaquejacques: Herod was trying to be the king of kings, and didn't like competition...
2011-11-24 22:06:17 JasperMoon: that is correct!
2011-11-24 22:06:48 JasperMoon: he liked being the king and he wasn't even going to relinquish it to his son until he absolutely had to!
2011-11-24 22:08:28 JasperMoon: Mark Twain also visited the land of Israel it is in his travelogue book. He saw an absolutely desolate land where there was not vegetation, no real buildings, a few nomads in the area, but no one was really living there at the time he visited.
2011-11-24 22:10:04 blaquejacques: do you think herod would try to work himself in prophecy to further his political agenda...give himself a divine ruler side...
2011-11-24 22:10:14 JasperMoon: maybe we should reserve the book of Revelation for next week
2011-11-24 22:11:08 JasperMoon: absoltuely. let me think a moment on that one because he tried to do that and I need to find the place where he did that. I think it was when the Magi visited him
2011-11-24 22:11:30 JasperMoon: Remember the story of the magi who came to see the king?
2011-11-24 22:12:18 blaquejacques: yeah, but the details are fuzzy...
2011-11-24 22:12:33 JasperMoon: he told the magi to let him know where they found the baby jesus because he wanted to go worship him. But he really wanted to kill him.
2011-11-24 22:12:54 JasperMoon: the magi brought the baby jesus gifts of gold frankencense and myrrh.
2011-11-24 22:13:17 JasperMoon: Herod tried to be immortal.
2011-11-24 22:14:30 blaquejacques: but before that happened, he must have tried to pay off the priests to praise him as the savior... even while being a roman toadie...
2011-11-24 22:14:32 JasperMoon: he was also a great builder, architect. He build a great palace on a mountain to show himself a great king. And he wanted everyone to know how great he was. I think he killed his first sons because of that. The one that succeed Antipas was his fourth son.
2011-11-24 22:15:29 JasperMoon: yes, I think so. The zefferelli mini series shows that in the big scene where Herod is wining and dining his guests and having a great time. He talks about his being just that.
2011-11-24 22:16:52 blaquejacques: about enoch: thaT IS A COMPLICATED TEXT. there are a lot of layers in there...
2011-11-24 22:17:23 JasperMoon: Yes, it is very hard to read. But he talks about the Watchers
2011-11-24 22:17:52 JasperMoon: he mentions angels other than Gabriel and Michael. He mentions Ariel and Raphael.
2011-11-24 22:18:05 JasperMoon: OrI think it's spelled Uriel
2011-11-24 22:20:19 JasperMoon: He also talks about the flood coming. this is the book that also talks about the two great pillars that were built in case the flood washed everything away. One was to stand the test and house a the records of their time for the next age to read and learn from. This is purported by some to be the great pyramid at Giza and I believe that because they don't tell you this, but they have discovered a great store room under the sphinx and they have been clearing things out under the cloak of midnight so no one will see them or know what they're taking out. It's on project camelot.
2011-11-24 22:21:07 JasperMoon: Enoch also talks about the fallen angels and what they brought to mankind the good and the bad.
2011-11-24 22:22:03 blaquejacques: there is a lot of descripive text in Enoch, which to me give it a really "truth" vibe to it...
2011-11-24 22:22:07 JasperMoon: And I think in one spot it says Enoch was taken to heaven and given a glimpse of the future that was to come==he was talkinga bout our time today in that section, many believe.
2011-11-24 22:22:33 JasperMoon: yes, there is a lot of truth in Enoch
2011-11-24 22:22:50 JasperMoon: I don't have the book in my bible, but there are copies on the net.
2011-11-24 22:23:15 JasperMoon: there's also the book of Jashar which the bible talks about, I have that on my computer at work, I think.
2011-11-24 22:24:30 JasperMoon: if nothing else, believe the book of Enoch. He talks about the flood and now the archeologists and scientists are telling us that there is evidence of a great flood long ago in the geology of the earth.
2011-11-24 22:25:20 blaquejacques: but it also explain things about the nature of angels...
2011-11-24 22:25:55 JasperMoon: yes. they are messengers. I don't really remember all what it says about angels. But i think it says a third were lost in the rebellion.
2011-11-24 22:29:45 blaquejacques: I'll try to get a new copy, lost mine during a move... I guess you could begin to understand it during the 10th or 11th reading...
2011-11-24 22:30:29 JasperMoon: Maybe we should all read it and talk about that next time, too.
2011-11-24 22:32:43 JasperMoon: I'm getting tired but I'd like to continue this. Can we do some more of this next week?
2011-11-24 22:33:02 blaquejacques: sure, what says you num?
2011-11-24 22:34:26 JasperMoon: my sister and I did a lot of housecleaning to day and tomorrow I've got to do some baking we're having dinner at my niece's tomorrow. family not here until tomorrow.
2011-11-24 22:35:06 JasperMoon: I guess they left the building!
2011-11-24 22:35:48 blaquejacques: well, have a good one, and have fun! yeah I guess the turkey got to them...lol
2011-11-24 22:36:54 JasperMoon: okay. Let me know what you all decide. This was a good discussion. I get to talk about this openly!
2011-11-24 22:36:58 JasperMoon: good night.
2011-11-24 22:37:16 Numenorean7: Alright! See you next time.
2011-11-24 22:38:09 blaquejacques: well good night!!!

I have studied Bible Prophecy for years. It's probably my best subject. I can't believe I missed it. Please smack me next time when there's an announcement.