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[keylempa]

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Hmmm, all of this stuff about how the governments are structuring our debts are hitting very close to home for me. My wife and I both went to college at Texas A&M (I just graduated last Friday) and she has been applying for jobs as an elementary teacher since march. With her turning in over 120 applications, she didn't get a single job offer. I have only recently started lookin for jobs and I havent even got any interviews yet. We are selling all kinds of our accumulated crap to get money, and we are moving to start a new life.

I can see that at least personally, the sh*t could really hit the fan within the next few months if neither one of us gets a job. Personally, I hope that on a national level the sh*t *does* hit the fan, because that would solve our massive 75K+ in student loans, credit cards and other random debts.

If I learned anything in college, it is that in any system (bilogical, societal, economical), you can NEVER have constant growth, and the rate of growth is directly proportional to the speed of onset of the crash.

I feel that this can be especially equated to the theories (are they even theories?) of the "J" and "S" shaped curves in a natural bilogical system. a stable system will exhibit a very slow growth curve over time, and eventually it will level off and stabilize. If you graph this over time, it looks like a flat "S". However, an unstable system will show a very very slow growth followed by an absolute explosion of population, which then hits a wall so to speak, and crashes back down to either complete annihilation or a much lower stable population. If you map human population over time, you will see none other than a J curve, and if you map our economy over time, you will see another J curve.

I for one, think we are in for a major fuxoring...

 

[Judge Bean]

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I think it's probably human nature to push things until the limits of the world are reached, and then to push more until we get an edge over the odds. Then it's probably also human nature to feel guilty about pushing things.

Yet, if we do not, and do not continue to try to stretch the limits of the natural world, we have to be content with the way things are. The majority is not content with the world the way it is, so we run the risk of all going broke and having the social order break down.

Nothing new.

 

[HackimerRob]

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how could we ALL go broke. Wasn't money invented in the first place?

afterhtought: I mean, before money was invented wasn't everyone broke? Maybe that's why they invented money, so some people could get rich.

 

[Unintentional]

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I think A LOT of problems with taxes and the government would be solved if they would just repeal the 16th admendment. It was never really actually ratified anyways.

Instead of the gov getting money directly from people (exactly what the founding fathers DID NOT want), they could get it from states and/or tarrifs.

About 1/2 of all the money the government takes in goes immediately out to direct payments to individuals. (redistribution of wealth)

Most lobbist would be out of a job.

There used to be an awesome web page explaining the tremendous benefit to all if it was publically acknowledged the 16th (income tax) admendment was never ratified.

http://www.sierratimes.com/02/02/27/artt022702.htm

There's a nice little story about the IRS.

http://www.givemeliberty.org/projects.htm

The above link explains why the 16th admendment is illegal.

 

[CaryP]

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Originally posted by Hackimer@ Rob,Aug 20 2004, 07:05 PM
how could we ALL go broke. Wasn't money invented in the first place?

afterhtought: I mean, before money was invented wasn't everyone broke? Maybe that's why they invented money, so some people could get rich.

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Rob,

Have you watched the video that I posted a link to in the Politics/Military/Law thread under "Money, Banking and the Federal Reserve"? The video does a great job explaining how money came about and developments into the modern day fractional reserve banking system. Money was developed as a means to speed up the velocity of commerce. Barter impeded the speed at which business was transacted. So a medium of exchange (money) was developed to accelerate the flow of commerce.

Before "money was invented" there were relatively few people of wealth in terms of possessions, power and influence. By today's standards they were peasants, but for the times they were considered "wealthy". The "middle class" American today lives a better lifestyle (in terms of material possessions and creature comforts) than royalty of less than 200 years ago.

It's unlikely that we would "all" go broke at the same time. But there is an increasing likelihood that most of the middle class will be wiped out financially when the series of financial bubbles engendered by the Fed Reserve begin to burst in the not too distant future.

Cary

 

[CaryP]

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I was reading the article at the link below. The article is a discussion and analysis of facsim. What bothers the bejezus out of me, is that current day US is pretty close to facist states discussed in the article. Thought some of you would find it interesting reading and cause for reflection.

Definition of Facism

Disgusting and disturbing.

Cary

 

[Grayson]

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Originally posted by CaryP@Aug 21 2004, 02:03 PM
I was reading the article at the link below. The article is a discussion and analysis of facsim. What bothers the bejezus out of me, is that current day US is pretty close to facist states discussed in the article. Thought some of you would find it interesting reading and cause for reflection.

Definition of Facism

Disgusting and disturbing.

Cary

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Depends on your definition of Fascism. Old Adolf termed it National Socialism, under which the State promoted the benefits of individual self-subsumation for the benefit of that State. A state of affairs to which the Statesmen did not have to subscribe, given the work that they were doing in managing the State.

The heads of State extended this state of grace to Industrialists, Entrepreneurs and Media-Moguls who benefitted the development of National Socialism and a super-elite came into being with all the trappings and hangers-on.

Any Western Power looks like this today, even without all the bully-boy tactics and nefarious henchmen lurking in the shadows and preparing to remove your civil liberties for the benefit of that State.

The core of any Fascist culture is the single minded promotion of the Right of the State to act as it sees fit in the interests of its population. To take any action it deems proper to ensure the continuation of the State and the capacity to take action beyond it's territorial limits to defend and ensure its right to existence.

It's not just the US that fits the bill here. Democracy is at best a concept of how we think we live and under the terms in which we would hope to live. Hitler's legacy is a dark and sinister one and has echoes in all our major Western systems of Government. The only real difference is the current culture of Capitalism that runs hand in hand with this, make money now, fleece the market now and run with the cash.

We are burning the candle at both ends, as people and as Society's. Paul is right, we push the envelope on everything we do and this cultural excess will do to us what World War's haven't, bring us to our collective knees and begging for mercy.

Maybe God saw the Apocalypse in a way that we could not interpret, until now.

 

[CaryP]

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We had some initial conversation about the Illuminati over in the UFO thread, but this one seems more appropriate for this post. In the UFO thread,I was joking about having a negative Rh blood type, which someone had posted was the mark of human lizard hybrids, and how they were related to the Illuminati. I noticed a few days ago that my member number is 33, which is a big deal, for whatever reason, in the Illuminati culture. Sue and I have chatted about the link of the Mason's to the Illuminati. I'm not a Mason, and I'm definitely not a member of the Illuminati, but there's evidence that something is going on. Snow gave us some links in chat about the Bohemian Grove, which is one of the get together spots of the Illuminati. There's a link between the Illuminati, Skull and Bones, CFR, the Trilateral Commission and the Bildesburg Group - all NWO organizations. I read the article below, and figured that there might be something to this group. I'll also post the link. I just don't know how long the article will stay up. Seems these boys have been busy for quite some time.

Countdown to World War Three

By Henry Makow Ph.D.
August 15, 2004

As fighting resumes in the holy city of Najaf, more may hinge on the outcome than we realize.

In a provocative article, Joe Vialls reveals that Iran and Saddam's Iraq have a covert military alliance and began joint preparations for this war after the Gulf War ended in 1991.

Iran already has nuclear capability and recently threatened to \"wipe Israel off the map\" if Israel attacked its nuclear facilities. Vialls says the cleric Al Sadr is tied to the Iranians.

\"As we shall see, if Moqtada al-Sadr is killed or maimed, we will be into an altogether new and exceedingly lethal ball game,\" says Vialls.

As you know, a large part of the US fleet is out of port and probably near Iran. Many observers believe there will be a US attack on Iran after the US election, no matter who wins. Iran has a military alliance with Russia.

These events should be seen in the perspective of a letter written by Albert Pike, the Grand Commander of American Freemasonry in 1871 and published in 1925. The letter foresaw three world wars designed to bring about Illuminati world hegemony.

Each war planted the seeds for the next. For example, the Second World War was designed to ensure the destruction of Germany, the expansion of Communist Russia and the establishment of the State of Israel. It unfolded exactly as Pike described and set the stage for the next war.

\"The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage of the differences caused by the \"agentur\" of the \"Illuminati\" between the political Zionists and the leaders of Islamic World,\" Pike wrote.

\"Agentur\" means \"agent.\" The same term is used in another Illuminati document \"The Protocols of the Elders of Zion\" which dates from the same period.

The key point here is these wars are contrived. They are \"caused by agentur of the Illuminati\" on both sides. These agents owe their first loyalty to the Illuminati not to their countries.

Their aim is to destroy their respective countries and profit from the carnage.

Pike continues: \"The [third] war must be conducted in such a way that Islam (the Moslem Arabic World) and political Zionism (the State of Israel) mutually destroy each other.\"

The rest of the world will be drawn in. \"Meanwhile the other nations, once more divided on this issue will be constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual and economical exhaustion...\"

At this point they will be constrained to accept the Luciferian one-world government.

Iran is rumored to have missiles that would reach England. I suspect China is also being built up by the illuminati to attack and destroy the USA.
See \"Elite Sets the Stage for World War Three\"

Pike's complete letter and valuable background can be found on an excellent web site \"Three World Wars.com\" operated by Michael Haupt of Cambridge UK. Readers who object that the terms Nazism and Zionism were not known in 1871 should remember that the Illuminati invented both these movements.

The Illuminati refers to a tightly organized network of family dynasties representing Anglo American and European aristocracy and Jewish finance joined by intermarriage, belief in the occult, and hatred of Christianity. Freemasonry is their instrument. They care nothing for their non-Illuminati brethren, Jewish or not. They will destroy billions as they create a neo feudal world characterized by the superrich, their support staff, soldiers and serfs.

\"TAKING SIDES\"

The Iraq war and a possible larger conflagration is a trap engineered by the Illuminati to destroy both the Moslem world and Israel, and possibly the U.S. Thus the real enemy is not Israel, America or Islam who are being manipulated. The real enemy is the Illuminati and their agents, bent on destroying and enslaving mankind.

For example, World War Two was choreographed. Roosevelt, Stalin, Churchill and Hitler were all Illuminati. They were actually all on the same side. Humanity ignorantly slaughtering itself for no reason was on the other side.

As Pike's letter indicates, the Nazis were intended to lose and the Communists to gain control of Eastern Europe. This is why the Nazis made so many stupid blunders on the Eastern Front and deliberately alienated the anti-Communist Russian people. It explains why they didn't invade prostrate England or make the critical oil fields of Russia and the Middle East their first priority.

Similarly today, George Bush, John Kerry, Tony Blair, Ariel Sharon, Gerhard Schroeder are all Freemasons. Bush and Kerry belong to the same \"Skull and Bones\" chapter! I am guessing but I expect Vladimir Putin and some significant Iranian leaders are also tied to the Illuminati. They may not be aware of the big picture but if they deviate, they will be assassinated like the Israeli PM, Yitzhak Rabin, who was also a Freemason.

Sadaam Hussein is believed to be a high-ranking Freemason with longstanding business ties to George H.W. Bush and the CIA. This would explain why George H.W. Bush didn't remove him in 1991; and why reports suggest he was secretly airlifted out of the country in the first days of the 2003 war.

The current Iraq war was planned years in advance to discredit the U.S., mire it in a Vietnam-style war and set it and Israel up for confrontation with a nuclear-armed Iran, backed by Russia and possibly China.

Osama Bin Laden is probably also Illuminati. See \"Bush, Bin Laden Serve the Same Master\" and \"Osama bin London\"

The whole Iranian Islamic Republic was put in place by the Illuminati. See Peter Goodgame's comprehensive report: \"The Globalists and the Islamists.\"

Thus while the majority of people on both sides believe in their cause, and fight and die for it, history suggests war is always a hoax aimed at slaughtering the \"innocents\" and establishing the power of the Illuminati in a one-world government.

\"Out of these troubled times, our objective: a new world order can emerge,\" President George H. W. Bush told the U.N. on September 11th 1990. \"Today, that new world is struggling to be born, a world quite different from the one we have known.\"

\"If the people were to ever find out what we have done,\" the same Bush told reporter Sarah McClendon in 1992, \"we would be chased down the streets and lynched.\"

We cannot understand the world until we appreciate that most leaders are traitors and that mankind is victim of a diabolical conspiracy on an unspeakable scale. It's time we stopped fighting each other and addressed the real enemy.

Countdown to World War Three

Not trying to start any urban legends here, but that the Illuminati exist is well documented. The Satanic worship, human sacrifice, torture, etc. also have an extensive list of witnesses, but no documented legal action as punishment to my knowledge. Gonna be an interesting rest of the decade.

Cary

 

[Cornelia]

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Wow Cary! So I'm an Illuminati and didn't know! (Rh- blood)
Well, so I'll join them in the next secret meeting and let them know of this forum... be prepared! HAHA HA (devil laugh)

 

[CaryP]

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Originally posted by Cornelia@Aug 21 2004, 05:52 PM
Wow Cary! So I'm an Illuminati and didn't know! (Rh- blood)
Well, so I'll join them in the next secret meeting and let them know of this forum... be prepared! HAHA HA (devil laugh)

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Well, that's the rumor Cornelia. If we're not Illuminati, we're supposed to be human-lizzard hybrids - part lizzard, part human. Now if I could only figure out which part was which. I'd ask Paul, but he'd probably give me an honest appraisal, and I'd become disillusioned about my future prospects. As far as secret meetings, I'd never attend; they're too secretive for me. I'd bet you've got one hell of a devil laugh, one comparable to your devilish sense of humor.

Cary