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Can the 2008 elections really be stopped?
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<blockquote data-quote="gonzogirl" data-source="post: 36770" data-attributes="member: 1447"><p><strong>Re: Can the 2008 elections really be stopped?</strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">Palin can read a teleprompter..thats about it. Both parties are not equally bad and I think the GOP has figured out that maybe nice guys CAN finish first! The GOP needs to go back to what made it great. The Bush admin did not create the crisis we see today. 75% of ALL media is owned by Coservative interests. The attitude of Bush when he intimidates his press corps. The air in Washington is laden ith oppression. When we have no free press and this forum is one of the only "honest" places to talk we are in trouble. Major media has been hijacked and with a well though out long term plan.<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite40" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /></span></strong></p><p> </p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">Harte:You make it sound like people are looking at poor people and saying.."wow..I want to be like that..I want to try and live off of $500 a month. Always on the edge of homelessness. Yeah thats for me."</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">Drugs, alchahol and no education make poor people.</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">I listed all of the people that programs for the poor benefit and you seem not to have noticed. The attitude that conservatives have had about the poor are mean spirited. Not every poor person is some lazy ass like you imply. Should society stop helping people because some are frauds? </span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">When I make 20,000 dollars a year I pay more taxes than the top corparations. </span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">Yet I understand the need for the incentive to give to these corparations to employ people and give them benefits.If I can understand that then why cant you understand the points that I make about the poor.</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">Stigma.</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">Its a battle that will never be won.</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">The rules on welfare and other "giveouts" that the gov has, have been tightened and probably need more tightening and enforcing. Great but lets give people a chance.</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">While I work with the disadvantaged I have noticed that the drug addicts/drunks/frauds get a little bit of money, but then fade away into the streets. The ones that stick through the programs are the ones who REALLY want it. The grateful ones.</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">The ones who want to be role models for their kids. Who see the government as giving them a chance in a lifetime and there is no way they are gonna mess it up.</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">I know women who were drug addict last year and now they work at county buildings and are going for their degrees..Because they can now fill out student financial aid. Because they are off drugs now. They are paying into the system from which they took.</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">While im at it. I am starting to try to get Clackamas county to take men more seriously. It has come to my absolute attention that there are a lot of men who have been living a drug lifestyle with their partners and now they are clean.</span></strong></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">The women they have a kid with chooses not to be clean. These men need to be given custody and trained for employment. Oregon right now sees men as people who are last on the list, but with all the drug abuse ggoing on ...more men are stepping up to the plate to take care of theirs. And are having trouble even getting custody. Sexist attitude needs to change. anyway....</span></strong></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-family: 'Comic Sans MS'">Harte we will always disagree(on this issue anyway) and it sure is nice to have a civil conversation with you. You are mostly prepared and I talk off the top of my head. Can U imagine if I got organized? (up in my brain?)<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite48" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes :rolleyes:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":rolleyes:" />I might make sense?lol</span></strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gonzogirl, post: 36770, member: 1447"] [b]Re: Can the 2008 elections really be stopped?[/b] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS]Palin can read a teleprompter..thats about it. Both parties are not equally bad and I think the GOP has figured out that maybe nice guys CAN finish first! The GOP needs to go back to what made it great. The Bush admin did not create the crisis we see today. 75% of ALL media is owned by Coservative interests. The attitude of Bush when he intimidates his press corps. The air in Washington is laden ith oppression. When we have no free press and this forum is one of the only "honest" places to talk we are in trouble. Major media has been hijacked and with a well though out long term plan.:([/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS][/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS]Harte:You make it sound like people are looking at poor people and saying.."wow..I want to be like that..I want to try and live off of $500 a month. Always on the edge of homelessness. Yeah thats for me."[/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS]Drugs, alchahol and no education make poor people.[/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS]I listed all of the people that programs for the poor benefit and you seem not to have noticed. The attitude that conservatives have had about the poor are mean spirited. Not every poor person is some lazy ass like you imply. Should society stop helping people because some are frauds? [/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS]When I make 20,000 dollars a year I pay more taxes than the top corparations. [/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS]Yet I understand the need for the incentive to give to these corparations to employ people and give them benefits.If I can understand that then why cant you understand the points that I make about the poor.[/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS]Stigma.[/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS]Its a battle that will never be won.[/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS]The rules on welfare and other "giveouts" that the gov has, have been tightened and probably need more tightening and enforcing. Great but lets give people a chance.[/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS]While I work with the disadvantaged I have noticed that the drug addicts/drunks/frauds get a little bit of money, but then fade away into the streets. The ones that stick through the programs are the ones who REALLY want it. The grateful ones.[/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS]The ones who want to be role models for their kids. Who see the government as giving them a chance in a lifetime and there is no way they are gonna mess it up.[/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS]I know women who were drug addict last year and now they work at county buildings and are going for their degrees..Because they can now fill out student financial aid. Because they are off drugs now. They are paying into the system from which they took.[/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS]While im at it. I am starting to try to get Clackamas county to take men more seriously. It has come to my absolute attention that there are a lot of men who have been living a drug lifestyle with their partners and now they are clean.[/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS]The women they have a kid with chooses not to be clean. These men need to be given custody and trained for employment. Oregon right now sees men as people who are last on the list, but with all the drug abuse ggoing on ...more men are stepping up to the plate to take care of theirs. And are having trouble even getting custody. Sexist attitude needs to change. anyway....[/FONT][/B] [B][FONT=Comic Sans MS]Harte we will always disagree(on this issue anyway) and it sure is nice to have a civil conversation with you. You are mostly prepared and I talk off the top of my head. Can U imagine if I got organized? (up in my brain?):rolleyes:I might make sense?lol[/FONT][/B] [/QUOTE]
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