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<blockquote data-quote="Ghost" data-source="post: 14596" data-attributes="member: 250"><p><strong>Re: Christianity</strong></p><p></p><p> </p><p> </p><p>This post is in response to one of Pyro's posts (see the above quote, the post was in the Just to get the ball Rollin' thread). </p><p> </p><p>It is true that the Bible denounces homosexuality, as well as any form of sexual immorality. That fact I am not trying to dispute.</p><p>There is no evidence supporting your claim that the church created the Bible, and I do not know of anyone that believes that Jesus wrote the Bible. However I, as well all the other Christians I know, believe that the Bible is composed of books written by prophets, some of the apostles of Jesus, and others.</p><p> </p><p>I was not "taking the low road" by saying all other religions attack Christianity, I was merely stating that I have not really observed any significantly large groups of Christians attacking non-Christians or being attacked by non-Christians. I do not deny that in almost every religion there is an extreme group that may be hostile to those of other religions, it is just that the number of radical, extreme individuals in larger religions is in proportion to those in smaller religions. The fanatics in larger religions are just much more visible.</p><p> </p><p>The Crusades were just as territorial as they were religious. Both sides had motives other than killing those of the other religion and looting(although there was much of that involved). The Crusades were a result of Emperor Alexius I (of the Byzantine Empire) asking Pope Urban II for military aid in resisting Muslim advances into the Byzantine Empire. Pope Urban II made ample use of propaganda, turning the request for help in defending the Byzantine Empire into a crusade to conquer the Holy Land. That was the primary reason for the First Crusade. It was mostly about territorial accquisition, not because a bunch of Christians decided one afternoon that they all spontaneously wanted to kill some Muslims. I do not deny that attrocities were commited in the Crusades. I am also not saying that all actions or any action taken in the Crusades were justified, I am just saying it did not start merely because one side did not like the other's religion. </p><p> </p><p>As for your remark about not wanting this turning into a "Holy War", I think that was in bad taste, made even worse by you saying it after insinuating that I was "taking the low road."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ghost, post: 14596, member: 250"] [b]Re: Christianity[/b] This post is in response to one of Pyro's posts (see the above quote, the post was in the Just to get the ball Rollin' thread). It is true that the Bible denounces homosexuality, as well as any form of sexual immorality. That fact I am not trying to dispute. There is no evidence supporting your claim that the church created the Bible, and I do not know of anyone that believes that Jesus wrote the Bible. However I, as well all the other Christians I know, believe that the Bible is composed of books written by prophets, some of the apostles of Jesus, and others. I was not "taking the low road" by saying all other religions attack Christianity, I was merely stating that I have not really observed any significantly large groups of Christians attacking non-Christians or being attacked by non-Christians. I do not deny that in almost every religion there is an extreme group that may be hostile to those of other religions, it is just that the number of radical, extreme individuals in larger religions is in proportion to those in smaller religions. The fanatics in larger religions are just much more visible. The Crusades were just as territorial as they were religious. Both sides had motives other than killing those of the other religion and looting(although there was much of that involved). The Crusades were a result of Emperor Alexius I (of the Byzantine Empire) asking Pope Urban II for military aid in resisting Muslim advances into the Byzantine Empire. Pope Urban II made ample use of propaganda, turning the request for help in defending the Byzantine Empire into a crusade to conquer the Holy Land. That was the primary reason for the First Crusade. It was mostly about territorial accquisition, not because a bunch of Christians decided one afternoon that they all spontaneously wanted to kill some Muslims. I do not deny that attrocities were commited in the Crusades. I am also not saying that all actions or any action taken in the Crusades were justified, I am just saying it did not start merely because one side did not like the other's religion. As for your remark about not wanting this turning into a "Holy War", I think that was in bad taste, made even worse by you saying it after insinuating that I was "taking the low road." [/QUOTE]
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