Debate Civil War or Revolution?

[titorite]

It is more than 15 states now and the numbers are increasing... While these petitions mean nothing to the ruling powers the people themselves will be able to count the number of signatures and gauge how many strong they are....


The feds might try to arrest everyone who signs these petitions for treason. because technically they could be considered insurrectionists.


Civil war looms imminently close.

15 States including Texas have filed a petition to secede from the United States - Dallas Top News | Examiner.com

As of Saturday November 10, 2012, 15 States have petitioned the Obama Administration for withdrawal from the United States of America in order to create its own government.

States following this action include: Louisiana, Texas, Montana, North Dakota, Indiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, North Carolina, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, New Jersey, Colorado, Oregon and New York. These States have requested that the Obama Administration grant a peaceful withdrawal from the United States.

These petitions were filed just days after the 2012 Presidential election.

Louisiana was the first State to file a petition a day after the election by a Michael E. from Slidell, Louisiana. Texas was the next State to follow by a Micah H. from Arlington, Texas.

The government allows one month from the day the petition is submitted to obtain 25,000 signatures in order for the Obama administration to consider the request.

The Texas petition reads as follows:

The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it’s citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.

As of 12:46 am, Sunday, signatures obtained by Louisiana, 7,358; Texas, 3,771; Florida, 636; Georgia, 475; Alabama, 834; North Carolina, 792; Kentucky, 467; Mississippi, 475; Indiana, 449; North Dakota, 162; Montana, 440; Colorado, 324; Oregon, 328; New Jersey, 301 and New York, 169. Many more States are expected to follow.

A petition is not searchable at WhiteHouse.gov until 150 signatures have been obtained. It is the originator's responsibility to obtain these signatures.

The Texas petition can be reviewed and/or signed by clicking here.

 

[JTFriend]

It is more than 15 states now and the numbers are increasing... While these petitions mean nothing to the ruling powers the people themselves will be able to count the number of signatures and gauge how many strong they are....


The feds might try to arrest everyone who signs these petitions for treason. because technically they could be considered insurrectionists.


Civil war looms imminently close.

15 States including Texas have filed a petition to secede from the United States - Dallas Top News | Examiner.com

As of Saturday November 10, 2012, 15 States have petitioned the Obama Administration for withdrawal from the United States of America in order to create its own government.

States following this action include: Louisiana, Texas, Montana, North Dakota, Indiana, Mississippi, Kentucky, North Carolina, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, New Jersey, Colorado, Oregon and New York. These States have requested that the Obama Administration grant a peaceful withdrawal from the United States.

These petitions were filed just days after the 2012 Presidential election.

Louisiana was the first State to file a petition a day after the election by a Michael E. from Slidell, Louisiana. Texas was the next State to follow by a Micah H. from Arlington, Texas.

The government allows one month from the day the petition is submitted to obtain 25,000 signatures in order for the Obama administration to consider the request.

The Texas petition reads as follows:

The US continues to suffer economic difficulties stemming from the federal government’s neglect to reform domestic and foreign spending. The citizens of the US suffer from blatant abuses of their rights such as the NDAA, the TSA, etc. Given that the state of Texas maintains a balanced budget and is the 15th largest economy in the world, it is practically feasible for Texas to withdraw from the union, and to do so would protect it’s citizens’ standard of living and re-secure their rights and liberties in accordance with the original ideas and beliefs of our founding fathers which are no longer being reflected by the federal government.

As of 12:46 am, Sunday, signatures obtained by Louisiana, 7,358; Texas, 3,771; Florida, 636; Georgia, 475; Alabama, 834; North Carolina, 792; Kentucky, 467; Mississippi, 475; Indiana, 449; North Dakota, 162; Montana, 440; Colorado, 324; Oregon, 328; New Jersey, 301 and New York, 169. Many more States are expected to follow.

A petition is not searchable at WhiteHouse.gov until 150 signatures have been obtained. It is the originator's responsibility to obtain these signatures.

The Texas petition can be reviewed and/or signed by clicking here.

Whoa. It's too bad really.

 

[Techciple]

The problem as I see it is that people confuse patriotism with blind acceptance of a government. This is the next move the U.S government will make. Quell the uprising by labeling it 'unpatriotic'.

 

[JTFriend]

The problem as I see it is that people confuse patriotism with blind acceptance of a government. This is the next move the U.S government will make. Quell the uprising by labeling it 'unpatriotic'.

People aren't nearly as comfortable with "change" as they think they are.

 

[Apocalypse]

BUllshit...

We threw over 200 missiles into his country continue upsurps syria , we are invloved in yemen and somlia and on and on... and you call ghadaffi the murderer?


Tax payer, remove the mote from thine own eye before casting stones.

Yes. Do you honestly reckon that the US is the only country in the world conducting classified sorties on others? When it comes to such things, the US are but a drop in THAT ocean.

Bullshit.

YOu just don't want to admit to the blood on your hands. The USA is a bloody nation... Our soldiers commit atrocities against humanity in all sorts of vile manners.... our concentration camps are up and running and grinding through people .. don't be a TV watching coward and pretend like all these things do not happen.. that we do not invade nation after nation after nation....... and that those that attempt to stand up to it all do so at great personal risk.....


Gadaffi was no master murderer......... the USA... We put out his light... as we put out the lights in iraq ...afghanistan ....Syria does not need to be invaded.

We do not need to invade one more fucking nation NATIONS THAT INVADE OTHER NATIONS ARE EVIL NAZI NATIONS!?!?!

WTF

How you anyone not get that?!?!

The invaders are always the bad guys.

Those that do not oppose these vile wars of ours are guilty of supporting them and the murder and the war in their name....

Oppose the wars promote peace.

When will anyone ever admit or accept that both "wartime" and "peacetime" are PAST TENSE TERMS. We are forever in a state of NEUTRALITY.

Opposing wars does not make you peaceful or "peacefully minded" - especially when your so-called "peaceful" protests lead to such civil unrest that make the US civil war look like childsplay.

 

[BlastTyrant]

The problem as I see it is that people confuse patriotism with blind acceptance of a government. This is the next move the U.S government will make. Quell the uprising by labeling it 'unpatriotic'.

That is a valid point, people do not want to be unpatriotic so therefor they will not go against their government for fear of being labeled unpatriotic or worse a terrorist or traitor