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<blockquote data-quote="TimeWizardCosmo" data-source="post: 82211" data-attributes="member: 2"><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><strong><strong>I feel a personal relationship with god OR I experienced god.</strong></strong></span></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_religious_experience" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_religious_experience</a></p><p>Ah, the good old <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_religious_experience" target="_blank">Argument</a> from <a href="http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Argument_from_personal_experience" target="_blank">Personal Experience</a>.</p><p></p><p>A result of our <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_origin_of_religions" target="_blank">naturally evolved</a> neurology, made <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurotheology" target="_blank">hypersensitive</a> to purpose (an ‘unseen actor’) because of the large social groups humans have and the way the brain associates <a href="http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=skeptic-agenticity&print=true" target="_blank">pattern with intent</a>.</p><p></p><p>Humans have evolved a variety of cognitive shortcuts to deal with the mass of information provided by our senses. In particular, we tend to filter sensory input according to a <a href="http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjIwMTcyMzc2.html" target="_blank">set of expectations</a> built on prior beliefs and past experiences, impart meaning to ambiguous input even when there is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia" target="_blank">no real meaning behind it</a> and infer causal relationships where <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc" target="_blank">none exist</a>.</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]G-lN8vWm3m0[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>Personal revelation cannot be independently verified. So-called ‘revelations’ never include information a recipient could not have known beforehand, such as the time and location of a rare event or answers to any number of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Unsolved_problems" target="_blank">unsolved problems</a> in science. They are usually emotional or perceptual in content and therefore unremarkable among the many cognitive processes brains exhibit, including dreams and hallucinations. These experiences may even be artificially induced by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen" target="_blank">narcotics</a> or magnetic fields. Extreme cases may be diagnosed as a form of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia" target="_blank">schizophrenia</a> or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis" target="_blank">psychosis</a>.</p><p></p><p>Spiritual and religious experiences are not only inconsistent among individuals but are variably attributed to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_inconsistent_revelations" target="_blank">different gods</a>, aliens, spirits, rituals, hallucinations, meditation etc. The fact that <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU" target="_blank">medical conditions</a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucination#Cause" target="_blank">other natural processes</a> can induce these experiences is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-body_experience#Induced" target="_blank">evidence </a>they are produced by our brain.</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]V-q8WZ1Ibso[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]UyyjU8fzEYU[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]Rl2LwnaUA-k[/MEDIA]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TimeWizardCosmo, post: 82211, member: 2"] [SIZE=5][B][B]I feel a personal relationship with god OR I experienced god.[/B][/B][/SIZE] [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_religious_experience'][/URL] Ah, the good old [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_religious_experience']Argument[/URL] from [URL='http://wiki.ironchariots.org/index.php?title=Argument_from_personal_experience']Personal Experience[/URL]. A result of our [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_origin_of_religions']naturally evolved[/URL] neurology, made [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurotheology']hypersensitive[/URL] to purpose (an ‘unseen actor’) because of the large social groups humans have and the way the brain associates [URL='http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=skeptic-agenticity&print=true']pattern with intent[/URL]. Humans have evolved a variety of cognitive shortcuts to deal with the mass of information provided by our senses. In particular, we tend to filter sensory input according to a [URL='http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjIwMTcyMzc2.html']set of expectations[/URL] built on prior beliefs and past experiences, impart meaning to ambiguous input even when there is [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia']no real meaning behind it[/URL] and infer causal relationships where [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc']none exist[/URL]. [MEDIA=youtube]G-lN8vWm3m0[/MEDIA] Personal revelation cannot be independently verified. So-called ‘revelations’ never include information a recipient could not have known beforehand, such as the time and location of a rare event or answers to any number of [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Unsolved_problems']unsolved problems[/URL] in science. They are usually emotional or perceptual in content and therefore unremarkable among the many cognitive processes brains exhibit, including dreams and hallucinations. These experiences may even be artificially induced by [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen']narcotics[/URL] or magnetic fields. Extreme cases may be diagnosed as a form of [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia']schizophrenia[/URL] or [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychosis']psychosis[/URL]. Spiritual and religious experiences are not only inconsistent among individuals but are variably attributed to [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_inconsistent_revelations']different gods[/URL], aliens, spirits, rituals, hallucinations, meditation etc. The fact that [URL='http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyyjU8fzEYU']medical conditions[/URL] and [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucination#Cause']other natural processes[/URL] can induce these experiences is [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-body_experience#Induced']evidence [/URL]they are produced by our brain. [MEDIA=youtube]V-q8WZ1Ibso[/MEDIA] [MEDIA=youtube]UyyjU8fzEYU[/MEDIA] [MEDIA=youtube]Rl2LwnaUA-k[/MEDIA] [/QUOTE]
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