Hillary Clinton will become US President

Into the Mystic

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The media is calling Trump the racist. National security is not racism. People need to look at the facts, not CNN, Fox, and other media outlets to form their opinions.

I avoid American media like the plague.

How is it racist that he wants to end situations like:

- There are many homless veterants, but illegal immigrants (no color mentioned) have homes?

- An American has to file bankruptcy after having a c-section with no insurance, but an illegal (no color mentioned), can have as many babies as they want for free?

Those are just two examples. The media twists it all around and says he is racist. Our government is scared that he is becoming so popular. They are going to do everything in their power to make him look bad.

He's not in it for the money. He has plenty of his own. He doesn't even HAVE to care or run for President, but obviously he cares about people because he's trying. He could sit in his fancy house and ignore the world if he wanted to, but he's choosing not to.

The bit in bold: surely the solution is to allow the American to also not have to pay for having babies (or anything healthcare related)?

We also have homeless veterans in the UK. Not enough is being done by our awful government to combat this (excuse the pun).

I don't want to get into an argument, but all I will say is this: what I believe in is so far to the left of the centre of American politics that many there would call me a communist. Which I am not. For instance, Bernie Sanders, as great as he is, is not a socialist in any way, shape or form, even though he says he is: on the contrary, what he wants for America is what the centrist Liberal Democrats want for Britain (to be fair, we already have most of what Bernie wants).

Even the centre-to-far right in Britain are appalled by Trump. That says something, believe me.
 

TnWatchdog

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Trump will run the country as a 'successfull' business...
The government runs the country as a 'failed' business, at best. The federal Post Office, which is a monetary failure, is an example of this.
I watch the news daily and I can see how the media goes after Trump...sometimes with a smile, othertimes with a sinister grin.
 

Tron1

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Trump is all show he know's nothing he has people taking care of him how can he take care of a country if people are running him? And how would he run it? I do not care for Trump at All. He is an idiot he proved it last night in the chat unless that was lusssorio.
 

PaulaJedi

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The bit in bold: surely the solution is to allow the American to also not have to pay for having babies (or anything healthcare related)?

Trump's solution is to open up a free market healthcare system so that we can purchase insurance across state lines. This will lower costs, lower deductibles, etc. Competition lowers prices. I'm just saying I fail to see how this is racist like the media makes it out to be.
 

Into the Mystic

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The bit in bold: surely the solution is to allow the American to also not have to pay for having babies (or anything healthcare related)?

Trump's solution is to open up a free market healthcare system so that we can purchase insurance across state lines. This will lower costs, lower deductibles, etc. Competition lowers prices. I'm just saying I fail to see how this is racist like the media makes it out to be.

'Free market healthcare' :D

We in Britain have had socialised medicine for 68 years. How difficult would it be for a socialised system to be created in the US?* I know from my knowledge of British political history that the Labour government which brought in the NHS faced almost overwhelming opposition.

*That is NOT a sarcastic question; it is a genuine one.
 

PaulaJedi

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The bit in bold: surely the solution is to allow the American to also not have to pay for having babies (or anything healthcare related)?

Trump's solution is to open up a free market healthcare system so that we can purchase insurance across state lines. This will lower costs, lower deductibles, etc. Competition lowers prices. I'm just saying I fail to see how this is racist like the media makes it out to be.

'Free market healthcare' :D

We in Britain have had socialised medicine for 68 years. How difficult would it be for a socialised system to be created in the US?* I know from my knowledge of British political history that the Labour government which brought in the NHS faced almost overwhelming opposition.

*That is NOT a sarcastic question; it is a genuine one.

I don't know. I'm not a politician.
 

Japrim

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The bit in bold: surely the solution is to allow the American to also not have to pay for having babies (or anything healthcare related)?

Trump's solution is to open up a free market healthcare system so that we can purchase insurance across state lines. This will lower costs, lower deductibles, etc. Competition lowers prices. I'm just saying I fail to see how this is racist like the media makes it out to be.

Trump isn't promising a free market system of anything. If there is even one law or regulation of something, it is not free. It is forced, regulated.
 

PaulaJedi

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The bit in bold: surely the solution is to allow the American to also not have to pay for having babies (or anything healthcare related)?

Trump's solution is to open up a free market healthcare system so that we can purchase insurance across state lines. This will lower costs, lower deductibles, etc. Competition lowers prices. I'm just saying I fail to see how this is racist like the media makes it out to be.

Trump isn't promising a free market system of anything. If there is even one law or regulation of something, it is not free. It is forced, regulated.

Not free as in money. Free as in we don't HAVE to buy from our state.

It "will broaden healthcare access, make healthcare more affordable and improve the quality"

Healthcare Reform
 

Japrim

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Trump's solution is to open up a free market healthcare system so that we can purchase insurance across state lines. This will lower costs, lower deductibles, etc. Competition lowers prices. I'm just saying I fail to see how this is racist like the media makes it out to be.

Trump isn't promising a free market system of anything. If there is even one law or regulation of something, it is not free. It is forced, regulated.

Not free as in money. Free as in we don't HAVE to buy from our state.

It "will broaden healthcare access, make healthcare more affordable and improve the quality"

Healthcare Reform

Firstly, Government produces nothing. It only harvests/steals from people. So there is no such thing as free stuff with government. It is all stolen stuff.

Secondly, anything that interferes with or prohibits choice is not free. A free market is where all exchanges are by untainted choice. There are no forced taxes or regulations of any kind.

Not being forced to buy insurance isn't exactly free because the market is still heavily regulated/forced (and subsequently over-priced). Having the choice to buy from an unregulated un-taxed healthcare insurance market would be an example of free.

None of them are advocating such a system. They are all statist turds advocating coercion and violence. They are criminals.
 

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