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<blockquote data-quote="samzeman" data-source="post: 181890" data-attributes="member: 11182"><p>I feel very sympathetic... In modern times, there are an awful lot of people that feel this way. They tend to bottle it up and don't really talk about it. I'm pretty happy with today, and I want to see the next 100 years, but I know a few people who feel genuinely displaced. I've mostly heard about them in the context that they end up doing something uncharacteristic and nuts, for better or for worse.</p><p></p><p>I tend to hear that it's a big issue in China, where people are quite homogeneous, and yearn for a time when a job wasn't just taking a packed tube to an office and working for 9 hours or whatever. </p><p></p><p>I guess.... know you aren't alone in the world, feeling this way. However, there are ways to emulate that life. One time my family won a competition and went to Norway, a trip that included a day out with the Sami people, who are an ancient sparse set of Inuit-type folks. They still herd their reindeer, the only difference in their lives being they occasionally have to argue their sovereignity to oil companies and they buy bread in plastic bags from the local franchise-supermarket in the nearby town, instead of buying bread in sacks from the mill or whatever. Also they have to herd their reindeer across the road, and they ride ski-mobiles all day to get around instead of dog sleds. All in all, their life seemed very similar and (no offense - they were great people!) primitive. Or maybe simple or humble is a better word. </p><p></p><p>For a maybe closer to home example: <a href="https://offgridworld.com/" target="_blank">Home - Off Grid World</a></p><p></p><p>This is the best compromise I can come up with, or the easiest (time travel isn't easy by anyone's standards lol, at worst it's impossible). And the best part is, about off-grid living, is that there are degrees of it. If you can find a way to get a vegetable patch, you might find great joy in growing a bunch of vegetables for yourself. That is, if you have the time off from your job. Technically you don't even need money for tools, but the path to making your own metal or even flint tools is pretty labour intensive....... Might as well get started now, lol?</p><p></p><p>There are probably (Don't know for sure) groups of people out there who live off the grid. The only trouble with that is that lots of them might have a /reason/ to want to live off the grid and be criminals (of varying moral standards) and without a police presence the best you will get is a sheriff or vigilante justice system, both of which are notoriously unreliable and flip between viscous and ineffective.</p><p></p><p>It's a big change to make but it might really make you happier? Even if it doesn't, make sure you have a plan to get back onto the grid and then if it doesn't work out, you'll probably realise along the way there are many modern amenities you actually miss, and society is overall better off these days, in my opinion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="samzeman, post: 181890, member: 11182"] I feel very sympathetic... In modern times, there are an awful lot of people that feel this way. They tend to bottle it up and don't really talk about it. I'm pretty happy with today, and I want to see the next 100 years, but I know a few people who feel genuinely displaced. I've mostly heard about them in the context that they end up doing something uncharacteristic and nuts, for better or for worse. I tend to hear that it's a big issue in China, where people are quite homogeneous, and yearn for a time when a job wasn't just taking a packed tube to an office and working for 9 hours or whatever. I guess.... know you aren't alone in the world, feeling this way. However, there are ways to emulate that life. One time my family won a competition and went to Norway, a trip that included a day out with the Sami people, who are an ancient sparse set of Inuit-type folks. They still herd their reindeer, the only difference in their lives being they occasionally have to argue their sovereignity to oil companies and they buy bread in plastic bags from the local franchise-supermarket in the nearby town, instead of buying bread in sacks from the mill or whatever. Also they have to herd their reindeer across the road, and they ride ski-mobiles all day to get around instead of dog sleds. All in all, their life seemed very similar and (no offense - they were great people!) primitive. Or maybe simple or humble is a better word. For a maybe closer to home example: [URL="https://offgridworld.com/"]Home - Off Grid World[/URL] This is the best compromise I can come up with, or the easiest (time travel isn't easy by anyone's standards lol, at worst it's impossible). And the best part is, about off-grid living, is that there are degrees of it. If you can find a way to get a vegetable patch, you might find great joy in growing a bunch of vegetables for yourself. That is, if you have the time off from your job. Technically you don't even need money for tools, but the path to making your own metal or even flint tools is pretty labour intensive....... Might as well get started now, lol? There are probably (Don't know for sure) groups of people out there who live off the grid. The only trouble with that is that lots of them might have a /reason/ to want to live off the grid and be criminals (of varying moral standards) and without a police presence the best you will get is a sheriff or vigilante justice system, both of which are notoriously unreliable and flip between viscous and ineffective. It's a big change to make but it might really make you happier? Even if it doesn't, make sure you have a plan to get back onto the grid and then if it doesn't work out, you'll probably realise along the way there are many modern amenities you actually miss, and society is overall better off these days, in my opinion. [/QUOTE]
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