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kcwildman

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ok I know I haven't been around much of late sorry for that, but been getting my shit in line to try and run my cars on water..STOP LAUGHING !!!!
Please do keep us posted and thank you. I got the water hose a ready and waiting. Now this is what I call a form of revolution...beat them at their kill you at the gas pump game.

yeh I saw it as a revolt too !!!! only it was one of liberty. I will go where I want, when I want, how I want, as fast as I want, and damn sure won't pay them basterds for my right to do so.... oh yeh I realy don't like horse and buggy, and sure as hell don't want to walk, or peddle a freakin bicycle...
 

TnWatchdog

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ok I know I haven't been around much of late sorry for that, but been getting my shit in line to try and run my cars on water..STOP LAUGHING !!!!
Please do keep us posted and thank you. I got the water hose a ready and waiting. Now this is what I call a form of revolution...beat them at their kill you at the gas pump game.

yeh I saw it as a revolt too !!!! only it was one of liberty. I will go where I want, when I want, how I want, as fast as I want, and damn sure won't pay them basterds for my right to do so.... oh yeh I realy don't like horse and buggy, and sure as hell don't want to walk, or peddle a freakin bicycle...
kcwildman, the road warrior of the end times...another Mad Max!
Siphon a little gas from abandoned cars, add water...and drive like hell.
 

TimeTravel_00

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The best way to do this is with a plasmatron, check them out. You can get them small enough to fit on a vehicle, however, the big ones are used for turning garbage into fuel for power stations.
 

TnWatchdog

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This is interesting...
Audi unveils A3 Sportback G-Tron with bi-fuel power, 808-mile range



By Jeffrey N. Ross RSS feed
Posted Mar 1st 2013 1:31PM

By this time next year, the Audi A3 Sportback will be offered with a variety fuel-efficient powertrains ranging from diesel to the all-electric E-Tron, but perhaps the most interesting is the all-new G-Tron model, which uses Audi's innovative carbon-natural compressed natural gas called e-gas. Previously called A3 TCNG, we first heard about this technology last year, but now Audi has confirmed that this low-emission, sustainable-fuel will debut by the end of this year on the A3 Sportback G-Tron.

To create this e-gas, a plant in Werlte, Germany uses electricity to split water into hydrogen and oxygen. As hydrogen fuel cell vehicles become more popular, Audi says that this process could also be used to produce hydrogen fuel, but to create CNG, it mixes the hydrogen with carbon dioxide to create "synthetic methane." Since it is identical to the CNG available today, Audi's e-gas can be shipped and stored using the existing CNG infrastructure. Making the whole process even greener, Audi obtains the CO2 for this process from a nearby biogas plant, which would otherwise be released into the atmosphere.

Differentiated from the regular versions of the A3, the G-Tron features a pair of tanks under the rear cargo floor holding 15.43 pounds of CNG, which can power the car for almost 250 miles. What's more, the A3's conventional gasoline tank is still in place, giving the car an addition 560 miles of range. In total, that means the A3 G-Tron has a driving range of more than 800 miles. To run on both CNG and gas, Audi made changes to the car's 1.4-liter four-cylinder engine (including the turbo, cylinder head and fuel injection system) and catalytic converter.

It isn't clear how many G-Tron models Audi is planning to build, but the press release posted belowsays that its e-gas plant can provide enough fuel for 1,500 cars to travel about 9,300 miles (15,000 kilometers) per year.
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Ingolstadt, 2013-03-01

The new Audi A3 Sportback g-tron

-The new A3 Sportback g-tron is powered by the CO2-neutral Audi e-gas
-CO2 emissions of 30 grams per kilometer (48.28 g/mile)
-Total range of 1300 km (807.78 miles)

Audi is taking a large step towards sustainable mobility with the A3 Sportback g-tron. The compact five-door car, due to make its debut at the end of the year, is powered by the CO2-neutral fuel Audi e-gas. The fuel will be produced in the power-to-gas plant in Werlte, Germany. This new car innovatively combines ecological balance, economy and high-tech solutions.


The Audi A3 Sportback g-tron comes with the full gamut of Audi's technology expertise – from ultra-lightweight technology, and infotainment, to driver assistance systems. But first and foremost it showcases state-of-the-art CNG drive technology, starting with the fuel storage. Its two tanks under the luggage compartment floor can each hold seven kilograms (15.43 lb) of CNG at a maximum 200 bar pressure. In tune with the ultra-lightweight construction concept, each tank weighs 27 kilograms (59.52 lb) less than its conventional counterpart.

The tanks consist of a new type of matrix. The inner layer consists of gas-impermeable polyamide polymer, while a second layer of carbon fiber-reinforced polymer (CFRP) gives the tank its extremely high strength; a third layer of glass fiber reinforced polymer (GFRP) provides rugged protection against damage from the outside. High-strength epoxy resin is used to bind the fiber reinforced materials.

A second highlight of the Audi A3 Sportback g-tron is its electronic gas pressure regulator. This compact and lightweight component reduces the high pressure of the gas flowing from the cylinders down to around five to nine bar in two stages.

It ensures that the right pressure is always present in the gas rail and at the injector valves – low pressure for efficient driving in the lower speed range, and higher when the driver calls for more power and torque.

If the pressure in the tank drops below ten bar, the engine management system automatically switches over to gasoline operation. The Audi A3 Sportback g-tron is fully bivalent, i.e. its performance figures are identical in CNG and gasoline modes.

CNG provides a range – based on standard fuel consumption – of around 400 km (248.55 miles), with gasoline providing another 900 km (559.23 miles) if necessary; the total range is approximately on a par with an Audi TDI. Two displays in the instrument cluster provide the driver with up-to-date information on the fuel level in each of the tanks. The driver information system also displays the current fuel consumption based on the particular operating mode.

The two filler necks are placed under a common fuel flap. After refueling, and whenever it is very cold, the engine is started with gasoline initially, then it is switched over to natural gas as quickly as possible.

The engine is based on the new 1.4 TFSI. Key modifications relate to the cylinder head, turbocharging, injection system, and the catalytic converter. Developing 81 kW (110 hp) and 200 Nm of torque, the Audi A3 Sportback g-tron has a top speed of 190 km/h (118.06 mph), with 0 to 100 km/h (0 - 62.14 mph) taking eleven seconds. The five-door car consumes on average less than 3.5 kilograms per 100 km of CNG or Audi e-gas – the fuel that is generated from eco-electricity in the Audi e-gas project. CO2 tailpipe emissions are less than 95 grams per km (152.89 g/mile) in gas mode.

The greenhouse gas balance is even more attractive in a well-to-wheel analysis that accounts for all factors from the fuel source to the car's wheels. When the A3 Sportback g-tron is powered by Audi e-gas, no more CO2 is released than was chemically input in its production beforehand – creating a closed loop. When the energy required to build the e-gas facility and wind power generators is included in a comprehensive analysis, CO2 emissions are still less than 30 grams per km (48.28 g/mile).

Buyers of the Audi A3 Sportback g-tron will presumably obtain the e-gas at the public CNG refueling stations via an ecological accounting method, similar to the method currently in existence for obtaining eco-electricity.

With the e-gas project, Audi is the first automobile manufacturer to develop an entire chain of sustainable energy carriers. The start of the chain has electricity produced from renewable energy sources; the end products are hydrogen and the synthetic Audi e-gas. Construction of the world's first industrial plant to produce synthetic methane (e-gas) from CO2 and renewable electricity is almost complete in Werlte (Emsland district of Lower Saxony), Germany.

The Audi e-gas plant uses the renewable electricity in the first stage for electrolysis – splitting water into oxygen and hydrogen (Audi e-hydrogen), which could one day power fuel-cell vehicles. Because there is not yet a widespread hydrogen infrastructure, however, the hydrogen is then reacted with CO2 in a methanation plant to produce renewable synthetic methane, or Audi e-gas. Chemically speaking, this e-gas is identical to fossil-based natural gas. As such, it can be distributed to CNG stations via the natural-gas network.

Thanks to the power-to-gas process, the electricity grid and gas network are being linked bidirectionally for the first time. Until now while you could generate electricity from gas, the reverse was not possible. The Audi e-gas plant therefore paves the way for tapping into the natural-gas network with its huge capacity as a storage and transport system for hitherto excess electricity capacity.

The CO2 used in Audi's e-gas plant is a waste product from a nearby biogas plant, operated by power utility EWE. The CO2, which would otherwise pollute the atmosphere, is chemically bonded into the fuel at the Audi e-gas plant. The e-gas plant will annually produce about 1,000 metric tons of e-gas and will chemically bind some 2,800 metric tons of CO2. This corresponds roughly to the amount of CO2 that 224,000 beech trees absorb in a year.

The CO2-neutral e-gas from Werlte will power 1,500 new Audi A3 Sportback g-tron vehicles 15,000 kilometers (9,320.57 miles) every year. The power industry can also benefit from Audi's e-gas project, as it addresses the nagging challenge of how to store large quantities of renewable electricity produced from wind turbines and photovoltaic systems efficiently and irrespective of location. The electricity-gas cogeneration technology could significantly foster the expansion of renewable energies.
 

kcwildman

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ok last night in the chat some questions were ask about the water to HHO system I have been talking about so here is the same basic system installed on a full size dodge truck

 

kcwildman

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the thing about super chargers/turbo chargers if you dont have the cam set up for them then you'll blow the top of the motor off.. they do make lots of horse power when set up right. just be carefull and do the home work on engine timeing and valve duration .....
 

TimeTravel_00

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This is more of a pressure issue. Simply dial your pressure down if your engine can't handle high compression, this is why turbos have blow-off valves. Honda's are notorious for withstanding high compression......
 

kcwildman

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yes it's a pressure issue when the intake and exhaust valves overlap the exiting exhaust gasses ignite the entering intake fuel and blow the top of the engine off. it's called pre-ignition you need to make sure that both valves are closed at top dead center and the intake valve dose not start to open untill at least 1.5-2 degrease later. this was a real issue at the drag strip in the early days of superchargers they have sinse made it manditory to have reinforced strapps going over the top of the motors now if the timing is off even the slightest amount it will blow . there are youtube vids out the wazzoo showing it happen
 

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