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<blockquote data-quote="OakFieldAlienz444" data-source="post: 250586" data-attributes="member: 12609"><p><h3>Telltale clues sleuths believe prove Putin is dead and using a body double</h3><p>Several clues suggest Vladimir Putin may already be dead – as a Ukrainian spy chief has sensationally claimed.</p><p>Ellie Doughty – The Sun</p><p></p><p>4 min read</p><p>September 5, 2023 - 2:42PM</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Pause</p><p>Mute</p><p></p><p>Loaded: 0%</p><p></p><p>Current Time 0:00</p><p>/</p><p>Duration 0:00</p><p>Fullscreen</p><p>White House suggests...</p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p>The White House on Tuesday (August 29) came the closest yet to declaring that the Kremlin was responsible for the death of Wagner Group mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin, who is believed to have been killed in a mysterious plane crash last week. White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre told reporters "it's very clear what happened here."</p><p></p><p></p><p>More From Military</p><p><a href="https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/veteran-suicide-royal-commission-chair-nick-kaldas-calls-on-defence-to-get-on-board/news-story/c1c5eb07a867e339ebb3c9dd647563b8" target="_blank"><img src="https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/9da03a01481afb23a495fe3cf6efc25a" alt="‘Stonewalled’: Fury over Aussie crisis" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><h4><a href="https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/veteran-suicide-royal-commission-chair-nick-kaldas-calls-on-defence-to-get-on-board/news-story/c1c5eb07a867e339ebb3c9dd647563b8" target="_blank">‘Stonewalled’: Fury over Aussie crisis</a></h4><p><a href="https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/russian-military-general-warns-the-war-will-not-stop-here-hints-at-europe-invasion/news-story/54c1321ad867883bf6694ad995a30108" target="_blank"><img src="https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/0f126ecf10b41bac5f7a79d2b720e8e4" alt="‘Only the beginning’: General’s warning" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><h4><a href="https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/russian-military-general-warns-the-war-will-not-stop-here-hints-at-europe-invasion/news-story/54c1321ad867883bf6694ad995a30108" target="_blank">‘Only the beginning’: General’s warning</a></h4><p><a href="https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/bae-systems-boss-asked-if-designs-for-hunterfleet-frigates-have-been-compromised/news-story/1a29f579814d5681547b9ee28cd290d4" target="_blank"><img src="https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/5696b99a6dbac613c1a532108d25cdf1" alt="Fear Aussie warships ‘compromised’" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a></p><h4><a href="https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/bae-systems-boss-asked-if-designs-for-hunterfleet-frigates-have-been-compromised/news-story/1a29f579814d5681547b9ee28cd290d4" target="_blank">Fear Aussie warships ‘compromised’</a></h4><p>A series of chilling clues suggest Vladimir Putin may indeed already be dead – as a Ukrainian spy chief has sensationally claimed.</p><p>Major-General Kyrylo Budanov – who is in charge of drone strikes and undercover ops against Russia – spurred on suspicions that Mad Vlad could be using a body double in his place.</p><p><img src="https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/913364ca98dc0baaccaf3b3507c5f7ac" alt="General Kyrylo Budanov has revealed he is unsure if Vladimir Putin is still alive. Picture: Getty Images" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>General Kyrylo Budanov has revealed he is unsure if Vladimir Putin is still alive. Picture: Getty Images</p><p></p><p>It’s not the first time wild rumours have been raised over whether the dictator is using body doubles for public appearances amid his bloody war against Ukraine, <em><a href="https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/23788724/telltale-clues-putin-is-dead-body-double/" target="_blank">The Sun</a></em> reports.</p><p>Footage of the war lord displaying odd behaviour and changes in his appearance have left people questioning whether the conspiracy theories could be true.</p><p>It comes after an interview with Anzhelika Rudenko of Radio Svoboda, where Ukraine intelligence chief Budanov said: “The Putin who everyone used to know was last seen around June 26, 2022.”</p><p>Rudenko later asked directly whether he believed Putin to be alive or not, to which the intelligence chief said: “I don’t know what to answer you.”</p><p>When the Radio Svoboda presenter claimed she thought it was a body double posing for Putin, Budanov agreed.</p><p><strong>Crucial watch error</strong></p><p>In August he appeared to forget which wrist his watch was on, despite always infamously wearing the A$24,531 Russian-made Raketa on his right arm.</p><p>The President glanced at his left arm and looked confused after realising his flashy timepiece was not there.</p><p>The awkward moment further fuelled rumours that a body double was used in his place for the meeting of the Russian Council for Strategic Development and National Projects.</p><p><img src="https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/7afcb92eacc758e01b9f488dcb3e58ca" alt="Putin was seen looking for his watch on the wrong wrist, despite always wearing it on his right hand. Picture: Supplied" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>Putin was seen looking for his watch on the wrong wrist, despite always wearing it on his right hand. Picture: Supplied</p><p></p><p>Later in the meeting, the Kremlin leader, 70, was also seen taking it off entirely and fidgeting with it in his hands.</p><p>Telegram channel General SVR claimed at the time that the sickly leader now permanently relies on a doppelganger for public appearances.</p><p>It was suggested that he ropes in lookalike actors to take his place and ensure his reportedly weakening health remains under wraps.</p><p><img src="https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/1214b1890ae181afc30adba94d795be8" alt="The awkward moment further sparked speculation a body double was used in his place for the meeting. Picture: Supplied" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>The awkward moment further sparked speculation a body double was used in his place for the meeting. Picture: Supplied</p><p></p><p>The channel wildly claimed Putin’s body double appeared to have simply forgotten that the dictator habitually wears his watch on the “wrong wrist”.</p><p>The post read: “Having read out a voluminous speech … the understudy frankly got bored.”</p><p><strong>Changing ears</strong></p><p>Not long before the strange appearance, Ukraine pointed to questions around the tyrant’s changing ears as proof of his doppelganger deception.</p><p>Ukraine’s Budanov told Ukrainian TV in August that Putin’s ears and height appeared to have changed in his public appearances.</p><p>“The picture, let’s say, of the ears, is different,”</p><p>“And it’s like a fingerprint, each person’s ear picture is unique. It cannot be repeated.”</p><p>Ukrainian news outlet TSN claimed the intelligence chief said he believes the Russian president is seriously ill and using body doubles to avoid public appearances.</p><p>He claimed that although very similar, the Putin body doubles “have different habits, different mannerisms, different gaits, sometimes even different heights if you looked closely”.</p><p><strong>Moving mole</strong></p><p>And a trip to occupied Mariupol in March saw Mad Vlad face claims that a doppelganger was sent in his place when footage flagged inconsistencies in his facial features.</p><p>The footage asked the question: “Who visited Mariupol?”</p><p>It read: “Specialists long ago noticed the differences between the Russian president’s body doubles.</p><p>“A ledge on Putin’s earlobe constantly changes. As does a small mole on his face.</p><p><img src="https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/c65adb42a9e04715bb2f7a97cd68a411" alt="A viral video made from the tyrant’s Mariupol visit claimed a mole on his cheek changes position. Picture: Supplied" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>A viral video made from the tyrant’s Mariupol visit claimed a mole on his cheek changes position. Picture: Supplied</p><p></p><p>“One of the Putins has straight wrinkles on his face, the other has small and interrupted [wrinkles].</p><p>“This is impossible even if he had Botox injections.”</p><p>The anonymous creators of the clip included a series of images comparing the difference in Putin’s features to back up the claims.</p><p>Despite denying he has had any tweaks, the war lord is believed to have undergone several cosmetic procedures over the years.</p><p><strong>Sagging chin</strong></p><p>Another ‘clue’ that seemed to fuel the wild rumours came when images of Putin from three separate appearances were used to compare his chin.</p><p>One, taken in a February address to the Federal Assembly in Moscow showed the dictator’s jawline appearing tight and neat.</p><p>Another was from his reported visit to naval port Sevastopol in Crimea in March where his chin appeared to sag.</p><p>Footage from his face during the Mariupol visit seemed to show him with a firmer chin, but noticeably less so than from his address in the capital.</p><p>Kremlin “insider” Telegram channel General SVR – that claims to have sources in the Russia state – said the real Putin never visited Mariupol.</p><p><img src="https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/21b9fe55e7f3b403d793300bf9038fe8" alt="It also flagged a series of inconsistencies in his facial features, comparing pictures of his chin taken at different times. Picture: East2West" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>It also flagged a series of inconsistencies in his facial features, comparing pictures of his chin taken at different times. Picture: East2West</p><p></p><p>They claimed that “the double was filmed but did not talk much and did not stay anywhere for a long time.”</p><p>“The whole country is already laughing over the inconsistency of the understudy with the original” in appearance, behaviour and habits.”</p><p>Two former Putin associates, Sergei Zhirnov and Abbas Gallyamov, have also suggested that the despot uses body doubles.</p><p><img src="https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/8e1563ff85ad348861ade64091d00a51" alt="And here in 2018, where they appear to be larger and to have a slightly different shape. Picture: AFP" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>And here in 2018, where they appear to be larger and to have a slightly different shape. Picture: AFP</p><p></p><p></p><p>Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky even previously suggested that the leader may already be dead, amid suspicions he used a “chroma key” green screen to fake his attendance at meetings.</p><p>Rumours are now consistently growing that he relies heavily on his “understudies” to stand in for him as he struggles to disguise his ailing health.</p><h4>More Coverage</h4><p><a href="https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/wagner-chief-yevgeny-prigozhin-laid-to-rest-in-secret-ceremony-which-vladimir-putin-did-not-attend/news-story/5a9321cc2e21184f65679077506b0409" target="_blank"><img src="https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/8a09f0b830c7dae25833fec80ba11adf" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a><a href="https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/wagner-chief-yevgeny-prigozhin-laid-to-rest-in-secret-ceremony-which-vladimir-putin-did-not-attend/news-story/5a9321cc2e21184f65679077506b0409" target="_blank">Putin’s final insult to dead Wagner boss</a></p><p><a href="https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/two-russian-officials-and-allies-of-vladimir-putin-dead-on-the-same-day/news-story/ed9de847f6f5f92e24cffea8474e3864" target="_blank"><img src="https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/9a35280f433a677e8a9a05ef88ebe8fb" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></a><a href="https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/two-russian-officials-and-allies-of-vladimir-putin-dead-on-the-same-day/news-story/ed9de847f6f5f92e24cffea8474e3864" target="_blank">Two key Putin allies die on the same day</a></p><p>Bombshell spy documents previously leaked to <em><a href="https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/23788724/telltale-clues-putin-is-dead-body-double/" target="_blank">The Sun</a></em> appeared to confirm he has pancreatic cancer and early-stage Parkinson’s disease.</p><p>It is also alleged that Putin even enlisted several lookalikes to go under the knife for plastic surgery to ensure they closely resemble him.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="OakFieldAlienz444, post: 250586, member: 12609"] [HEADING=2]Telltale clues sleuths believe prove Putin is dead and using a body double[/HEADING] Several clues suggest Vladimir Putin may already be dead – as a Ukrainian spy chief has sensationally claimed. Ellie Doughty – The Sun 4 min read September 5, 2023 - 2:42PM Pause Mute Loaded: 0% Current Time 0:00 / Duration 0:00 Fullscreen White House suggests... The White House on Tuesday (August 29) came the closest yet to declaring that the Kremlin was responsible for the death of Wagner Group mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin, who is believed to have been killed in a mysterious plane crash last week. White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre told reporters "it's very clear what happened here." More From Military [URL='https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/veteran-suicide-royal-commission-chair-nick-kaldas-calls-on-defence-to-get-on-board/news-story/c1c5eb07a867e339ebb3c9dd647563b8'][IMG alt="‘Stonewalled’: Fury over Aussie crisis"]https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/9da03a01481afb23a495fe3cf6efc25a[/IMG][/URL] [HEADING=3][URL='https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/veteran-suicide-royal-commission-chair-nick-kaldas-calls-on-defence-to-get-on-board/news-story/c1c5eb07a867e339ebb3c9dd647563b8']‘Stonewalled’: Fury over Aussie crisis[/URL][/HEADING] [URL='https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/russian-military-general-warns-the-war-will-not-stop-here-hints-at-europe-invasion/news-story/54c1321ad867883bf6694ad995a30108'][IMG alt="‘Only the beginning’: General’s warning"]https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/0f126ecf10b41bac5f7a79d2b720e8e4[/IMG][/URL] [HEADING=3][URL='https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/russian-military-general-warns-the-war-will-not-stop-here-hints-at-europe-invasion/news-story/54c1321ad867883bf6694ad995a30108']‘Only the beginning’: General’s warning[/URL][/HEADING] [URL='https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/bae-systems-boss-asked-if-designs-for-hunterfleet-frigates-have-been-compromised/news-story/1a29f579814d5681547b9ee28cd290d4'][IMG alt="Fear Aussie warships ‘compromised’"]https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/5696b99a6dbac613c1a532108d25cdf1[/IMG][/URL] [HEADING=3][URL='https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/bae-systems-boss-asked-if-designs-for-hunterfleet-frigates-have-been-compromised/news-story/1a29f579814d5681547b9ee28cd290d4']Fear Aussie warships ‘compromised’[/URL][/HEADING] A series of chilling clues suggest Vladimir Putin may indeed already be dead – as a Ukrainian spy chief has sensationally claimed. Major-General Kyrylo Budanov – who is in charge of drone strikes and undercover ops against Russia – spurred on suspicions that Mad Vlad could be using a body double in his place. [IMG alt="General Kyrylo Budanov has revealed he is unsure if Vladimir Putin is still alive. Picture: Getty Images"]https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/913364ca98dc0baaccaf3b3507c5f7ac[/IMG] General Kyrylo Budanov has revealed he is unsure if Vladimir Putin is still alive. Picture: Getty Images It’s not the first time wild rumours have been raised over whether the dictator is using body doubles for public appearances amid his bloody war against Ukraine, [I][URL='https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/23788724/telltale-clues-putin-is-dead-body-double/']The Sun[/URL][/I] reports. Footage of the war lord displaying odd behaviour and changes in his appearance have left people questioning whether the conspiracy theories could be true. It comes after an interview with Anzhelika Rudenko of Radio Svoboda, where Ukraine intelligence chief Budanov said: “The Putin who everyone used to know was last seen around June 26, 2022.” Rudenko later asked directly whether he believed Putin to be alive or not, to which the intelligence chief said: “I don’t know what to answer you.” When the Radio Svoboda presenter claimed she thought it was a body double posing for Putin, Budanov agreed. [B]Crucial watch error[/B] In August he appeared to forget which wrist his watch was on, despite always infamously wearing the A$24,531 Russian-made Raketa on his right arm. The President glanced at his left arm and looked confused after realising his flashy timepiece was not there. The awkward moment further fuelled rumours that a body double was used in his place for the meeting of the Russian Council for Strategic Development and National Projects. [IMG alt="Putin was seen looking for his watch on the wrong wrist, despite always wearing it on his right hand. Picture: Supplied"]https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/7afcb92eacc758e01b9f488dcb3e58ca[/IMG] Putin was seen looking for his watch on the wrong wrist, despite always wearing it on his right hand. Picture: Supplied Later in the meeting, the Kremlin leader, 70, was also seen taking it off entirely and fidgeting with it in his hands. Telegram channel General SVR claimed at the time that the sickly leader now permanently relies on a doppelganger for public appearances. It was suggested that he ropes in lookalike actors to take his place and ensure his reportedly weakening health remains under wraps. [IMG alt="The awkward moment further sparked speculation a body double was used in his place for the meeting. Picture: Supplied"]https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/1214b1890ae181afc30adba94d795be8[/IMG] The awkward moment further sparked speculation a body double was used in his place for the meeting. Picture: Supplied The channel wildly claimed Putin’s body double appeared to have simply forgotten that the dictator habitually wears his watch on the “wrong wrist”. The post read: “Having read out a voluminous speech … the understudy frankly got bored.” [B]Changing ears[/B] Not long before the strange appearance, Ukraine pointed to questions around the tyrant’s changing ears as proof of his doppelganger deception. Ukraine’s Budanov told Ukrainian TV in August that Putin’s ears and height appeared to have changed in his public appearances. “The picture, let’s say, of the ears, is different,” “And it’s like a fingerprint, each person’s ear picture is unique. It cannot be repeated.” Ukrainian news outlet TSN claimed the intelligence chief said he believes the Russian president is seriously ill and using body doubles to avoid public appearances. He claimed that although very similar, the Putin body doubles “have different habits, different mannerisms, different gaits, sometimes even different heights if you looked closely”. [B]Moving mole[/B] And a trip to occupied Mariupol in March saw Mad Vlad face claims that a doppelganger was sent in his place when footage flagged inconsistencies in his facial features. The footage asked the question: “Who visited Mariupol?” It read: “Specialists long ago noticed the differences between the Russian president’s body doubles. “A ledge on Putin’s earlobe constantly changes. As does a small mole on his face. [IMG alt="A viral video made from the tyrant’s Mariupol visit claimed a mole on his cheek changes position. Picture: Supplied"]https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/c65adb42a9e04715bb2f7a97cd68a411[/IMG] A viral video made from the tyrant’s Mariupol visit claimed a mole on his cheek changes position. Picture: Supplied “One of the Putins has straight wrinkles on his face, the other has small and interrupted [wrinkles]. “This is impossible even if he had Botox injections.” The anonymous creators of the clip included a series of images comparing the difference in Putin’s features to back up the claims. Despite denying he has had any tweaks, the war lord is believed to have undergone several cosmetic procedures over the years. [B]Sagging chin[/B] Another ‘clue’ that seemed to fuel the wild rumours came when images of Putin from three separate appearances were used to compare his chin. One, taken in a February address to the Federal Assembly in Moscow showed the dictator’s jawline appearing tight and neat. Another was from his reported visit to naval port Sevastopol in Crimea in March where his chin appeared to sag. Footage from his face during the Mariupol visit seemed to show him with a firmer chin, but noticeably less so than from his address in the capital. Kremlin “insider” Telegram channel General SVR – that claims to have sources in the Russia state – said the real Putin never visited Mariupol. [IMG alt="It also flagged a series of inconsistencies in his facial features, comparing pictures of his chin taken at different times. Picture: East2West"]https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/21b9fe55e7f3b403d793300bf9038fe8[/IMG] It also flagged a series of inconsistencies in his facial features, comparing pictures of his chin taken at different times. Picture: East2West They claimed that “the double was filmed but did not talk much and did not stay anywhere for a long time.” “The whole country is already laughing over the inconsistency of the understudy with the original” in appearance, behaviour and habits.” Two former Putin associates, Sergei Zhirnov and Abbas Gallyamov, have also suggested that the despot uses body doubles. [IMG alt="And here in 2018, where they appear to be larger and to have a slightly different shape. Picture: AFP"]https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/8e1563ff85ad348861ade64091d00a51[/IMG] And here in 2018, where they appear to be larger and to have a slightly different shape. Picture: AFP Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky even previously suggested that the leader may already be dead, amid suspicions he used a “chroma key” green screen to fake his attendance at meetings. Rumours are now consistently growing that he relies heavily on his “understudies” to stand in for him as he struggles to disguise his ailing health. [HEADING=3]More Coverage[/HEADING] [URL='https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/wagner-chief-yevgeny-prigozhin-laid-to-rest-in-secret-ceremony-which-vladimir-putin-did-not-attend/news-story/5a9321cc2e21184f65679077506b0409'][IMG]https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/8a09f0b830c7dae25833fec80ba11adf[/IMG][/URL][URL='https://www.news.com.au/world/europe/wagner-chief-yevgeny-prigozhin-laid-to-rest-in-secret-ceremony-which-vladimir-putin-did-not-attend/news-story/5a9321cc2e21184f65679077506b0409']Putin’s final insult to dead Wagner boss[/URL] [URL='https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/two-russian-officials-and-allies-of-vladimir-putin-dead-on-the-same-day/news-story/ed9de847f6f5f92e24cffea8474e3864'][IMG]https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/9a35280f433a677e8a9a05ef88ebe8fb[/IMG][/URL][URL='https://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/military/two-russian-officials-and-allies-of-vladimir-putin-dead-on-the-same-day/news-story/ed9de847f6f5f92e24cffea8474e3864']Two key Putin allies die on the same day[/URL] Bombshell spy documents previously leaked to [I][URL='https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/23788724/telltale-clues-putin-is-dead-body-double/']The Sun[/URL][/I] appeared to confirm he has pancreatic cancer and early-stage Parkinson’s disease. It is also alleged that Putin even enlisted several lookalikes to go under the knife for plastic surgery to ensure they closely resemble him. [/QUOTE]
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