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<blockquote data-quote="pauli" data-source="post: 9516" data-attributes="member: 88"><p><strong>Islam</strong></p><p></p><p>Posted by Cary P.:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Cary, with all due respect, do you care to support these assertions with some facts? The Zionists in league with Hitler??? That's such a preposterous assertion that I really want your source material on it. Hitler was out to destroy Jews, not establish them. </p><p></p><p>And, if I might ask, where did this whole "neocon" thing come from? This is a word that has been bandied about for the past year or so and is used almost like a profanity these days to put people down. From what I understand, it became used when Jews decided to back away from the Democratic party because they realized they no longer agreed with any of the values that the Democrats held any more. Now they are demonized because of this. Just so you know, many Jews did not leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left them. It went to the left, they stayed where they always had been. Now they are being branded as traitors under the word, "Neocon."</p><p></p><p>As to the Israeli spy in the Pentagon, I am sure we are going to hear about a conviction. Haven't you ever heard of the name Jonathan Pollard? He certainly wasn't given a "pass." In fact, the judge threw the book at him and gave him the harshest sentence handed out for any spy which had been caught in America up to that time. As to the fact that Israel has been spying on America, I don't like that it happens, but it happens in every country. China was caught spying on us in the late '90's and obtained all of our up to then technology for defense. Robert Hanssen spied for the Russians from the FBI. Things like this happen from time to time - unfortunately.</p><p></p><p>The "zionists" didn't "get into bed with the Conservatives" because "they're zealous (fanatical in my opinion) enough to believe that God wants them take over the planet for "His greater good;" they joined with those who shared similar values, when they discovered that the rest of the world is out to destroy their country's existence. Like it or not, the UN, Europe and many countries from around the world have a decidedly anti-Israel/pro Arab stance. They will fawn in obsequious ass-kissing to the Arabs and blast Israel should one Palestinian person's toe get stubbed as they cross through the security barriers. If the world is out to get you, you tend to draw closer to people who are supportive of you, not the ones that can't wait to see you die. And where in the world do you get your source material about the "Zionist's desire to take over the planet for "His greater good?" The Protocols of the Elders on Zion??? That is the type of source material that would assert such a ludicrous notion.</p><p></p><p>Lastly, do a search through the history of WWII and see exactly WHO supported Hitler in his war. It was the ARABS, not the Jews. The ARABS wanted Hitler to win. And if you look, you will discover that many of them bemoan the fact that he never finished his "Final Solution." What the Arabs didn't understand, however, because they didn't understand what Hitler really wanted for the world, is that had he gotten his way, the Arabs would have eventually been in those camps themselves. Hitler had no use for anyone who wasn't a blond-hair, blue eyed Aryan.</p><p></p><p>All of this is to say that even had Hitler given money to establish a Zionist entity, it was in order to get rid of the Jews out of Germany and for no other reason.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pauli, post: 9516, member: 88"] [b]Islam[/b] Posted by Cary P.: Cary, with all due respect, do you care to support these assertions with some facts? The Zionists in league with Hitler??? That's such a preposterous assertion that I really want your source material on it. Hitler was out to destroy Jews, not establish them. And, if I might ask, where did this whole "neocon" thing come from? This is a word that has been bandied about for the past year or so and is used almost like a profanity these days to put people down. From what I understand, it became used when Jews decided to back away from the Democratic party because they realized they no longer agreed with any of the values that the Democrats held any more. Now they are demonized because of this. Just so you know, many Jews did not leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic Party left them. It went to the left, they stayed where they always had been. Now they are being branded as traitors under the word, "Neocon." As to the Israeli spy in the Pentagon, I am sure we are going to hear about a conviction. Haven't you ever heard of the name Jonathan Pollard? He certainly wasn't given a "pass." In fact, the judge threw the book at him and gave him the harshest sentence handed out for any spy which had been caught in America up to that time. As to the fact that Israel has been spying on America, I don't like that it happens, but it happens in every country. China was caught spying on us in the late '90's and obtained all of our up to then technology for defense. Robert Hanssen spied for the Russians from the FBI. Things like this happen from time to time - unfortunately. The "zionists" didn't "get into bed with the Conservatives" because "they're zealous (fanatical in my opinion) enough to believe that God wants them take over the planet for "His greater good;" they joined with those who shared similar values, when they discovered that the rest of the world is out to destroy their country's existence. Like it or not, the UN, Europe and many countries from around the world have a decidedly anti-Israel/pro Arab stance. They will fawn in obsequious ass-kissing to the Arabs and blast Israel should one Palestinian person's toe get stubbed as they cross through the security barriers. If the world is out to get you, you tend to draw closer to people who are supportive of you, not the ones that can't wait to see you die. And where in the world do you get your source material about the "Zionist's desire to take over the planet for "His greater good?" The Protocols of the Elders on Zion??? That is the type of source material that would assert such a ludicrous notion. Lastly, do a search through the history of WWII and see exactly WHO supported Hitler in his war. It was the ARABS, not the Jews. The ARABS wanted Hitler to win. And if you look, you will discover that many of them bemoan the fact that he never finished his "Final Solution." What the Arabs didn't understand, however, because they didn't understand what Hitler really wanted for the world, is that had he gotten his way, the Arabs would have eventually been in those camps themselves. Hitler had no use for anyone who wasn't a blond-hair, blue eyed Aryan. All of this is to say that even had Hitler given money to establish a Zionist entity, it was in order to get rid of the Jews out of Germany and for no other reason. [/QUOTE]
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