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<blockquote data-quote="StarLord" data-source="post: 9532" data-attributes="member: 44"><p><strong>Islam</strong></p><p></p><p>Karizma,</p><p></p><p>Here is a good question that you have posed. There are two separate avenues on this though. Political or govt. on one hand and Religious / Ethical on the other.</p><p>If any take umbrage or insult in this post, it is not intended for it is just a viewpoint.</p><p>Of course, the religious aspect of their (Islam) beliefs has been ingrained and a status quo for a few thousand years. Until there is a major upsurge in consciousness among the ruling hiearchy of their various sects, not much is going to change in their fanatical response to 'outside' faiths or religions. Not all Islamic sects are militant and most get along fine with other religions. Some do not as we have seen. However, be careful not to decieve yourself into thinking that the insane, fanatical few mirror the rest of the followers of the islamic faith. Just as not all christians play with snakes during religious sessions. </p><p>As always, it's a matter of interpretation of the scriptures that is creating a problem for some.</p><p></p><p>Please keep in mind that IMHO, there is but one Ultimate God, and it doesn't matter what name it is referred to. As long as you believe in an ultimate supreme being, you have achieved one of the main hurdles that life puts forth. It matters not your individual path, All roads eventually lead to Rome.</p><p></p><p>Lets start at the basic first stepping stone to 'problems' between these faiths. None of them can seem to agree on the basic premiss of the validity of the prophets</p><p>whereby each faith claims that their source of salvation is the only 'true' path to God, thus their prophet the 'one and only true prophet' . Until you can get the various faiths pass this major moat, you are not going to be able to change anything among them because this thought is ingrained in the respective faiths as a basic tenant. </p><p></p><p>As we all know the respective 'bibles' of each faith were written thousands of years ago. With the exception of the catholic bible which has seen several revisions since it's genesis, these books dealt with the thinking or consciousness At The Time They Were Written and those rules and laws made perfect sense BACK THEN. </p><p></p><p>Point in case, had the ruling class amongst the priesthood in India not taken into consideration the fact that unless they protect the main source of dairy products by proclaiming the cow sacred, thus a banned source of animal meat protein, millions would have starved. They were aware of this and so the reason for that particular law. It is easily misconstrued, that because the cow is sacred might it not be possible that eating meat is not good for ones spiritual growth? </p><p>One has nothing to do with the other, but you can see how something as mundane as this can take a divergence from the logical and transported into the esoteric realm as a given.</p><p></p><p>The catholic church is quickly loosing its flock due to it's archaic approach to salvation and they are aware of this big time. If masses were still said in Latin like they were 25 years ago, they would be losing even more. No one path has a patent on spiritual salvation, yet each path pretty much says the same thing, unless you believe in our faith along with our prophet's, you are not getting into 'heaven'</p><p></p><p>Religious faiths, sadly, have been foundations for wars for thousands of years. Present interfaith intolerance driven by politically directed sections, are justifications for extreme behavior to date. In order to change this, there is but one venue. You must bring all these faiths into the 21st century, including their respective 'bibles' and deliver those messages in real time language in today's modern world. Unless this happens, you will not make any headway because without handing these folks something new that truly works for everybody, they will refuse to give up the old ways.</p><p></p><p>Go to the head of the class if you took a leap and perchance have thought that the religious are being manipulated to foster a perpetual war with no end in sight.</p><p>The participants are not able to see the forest for the trees as they cannot distinguish between religious justification and true moral correctness.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StarLord, post: 9532, member: 44"] [b]Islam[/b] Karizma, Here is a good question that you have posed. There are two separate avenues on this though. Political or govt. on one hand and Religious / Ethical on the other. If any take umbrage or insult in this post, it is not intended for it is just a viewpoint. Of course, the religious aspect of their (Islam) beliefs has been ingrained and a status quo for a few thousand years. Until there is a major upsurge in consciousness among the ruling hiearchy of their various sects, not much is going to change in their fanatical response to 'outside' faiths or religions. Not all Islamic sects are militant and most get along fine with other religions. Some do not as we have seen. However, be careful not to decieve yourself into thinking that the insane, fanatical few mirror the rest of the followers of the islamic faith. Just as not all christians play with snakes during religious sessions. As always, it's a matter of interpretation of the scriptures that is creating a problem for some. Please keep in mind that IMHO, there is but one Ultimate God, and it doesn't matter what name it is referred to. As long as you believe in an ultimate supreme being, you have achieved one of the main hurdles that life puts forth. It matters not your individual path, All roads eventually lead to Rome. Lets start at the basic first stepping stone to 'problems' between these faiths. None of them can seem to agree on the basic premiss of the validity of the prophets whereby each faith claims that their source of salvation is the only 'true' path to God, thus their prophet the 'one and only true prophet' . Until you can get the various faiths pass this major moat, you are not going to be able to change anything among them because this thought is ingrained in the respective faiths as a basic tenant. As we all know the respective 'bibles' of each faith were written thousands of years ago. With the exception of the catholic bible which has seen several revisions since it's genesis, these books dealt with the thinking or consciousness At The Time They Were Written and those rules and laws made perfect sense BACK THEN. Point in case, had the ruling class amongst the priesthood in India not taken into consideration the fact that unless they protect the main source of dairy products by proclaiming the cow sacred, thus a banned source of animal meat protein, millions would have starved. They were aware of this and so the reason for that particular law. It is easily misconstrued, that because the cow is sacred might it not be possible that eating meat is not good for ones spiritual growth? One has nothing to do with the other, but you can see how something as mundane as this can take a divergence from the logical and transported into the esoteric realm as a given. The catholic church is quickly loosing its flock due to it's archaic approach to salvation and they are aware of this big time. If masses were still said in Latin like they were 25 years ago, they would be losing even more. No one path has a patent on spiritual salvation, yet each path pretty much says the same thing, unless you believe in our faith along with our prophet's, you are not getting into 'heaven' Religious faiths, sadly, have been foundations for wars for thousands of years. Present interfaith intolerance driven by politically directed sections, are justifications for extreme behavior to date. In order to change this, there is but one venue. You must bring all these faiths into the 21st century, including their respective 'bibles' and deliver those messages in real time language in today's modern world. Unless this happens, you will not make any headway because without handing these folks something new that truly works for everybody, they will refuse to give up the old ways. Go to the head of the class if you took a leap and perchance have thought that the religious are being manipulated to foster a perpetual war with no end in sight. The participants are not able to see the forest for the trees as they cannot distinguish between religious justification and true moral correctness. [/QUOTE]
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