John Titor Chat Event: October 27th 2011, 8:30 Pm Est

Warm up your DeLorean's engine, tune up your time circuits and make ready the singularities. We're having a time travel chat event!

John Titor. We've been talking about this guy for a decade. I always enjoy talking about him, his messages. What about his most recent iteration on Paranormalis? Do you think this "new age" JT may be real?

John Titor Chat Event: October 27th 2011, 8:30 Pm Est

--Numenorean7

Awesome, see you tonight!

I deleted your double post as requested.

Woot.

Yes, I'm going to post the transcript in the event's topic in the community events section. I'm merging this topic with it.

I am going to post the chat log tonight. Also, this week's chat event is going to be about John Titor again. I'll post the new event's announcement tonight as well, stay tuned!

Alright, here is the chat log.

It started as a Titor discussion and it turned into an HDR discussion a bit later on. We are going to continue the John Titor discussion this week, with a John Titor Chat Event Part II.

2011-10-27 20:26:30 Numenorean7: Hello!
2011-10-27 20:26:32 ZeoEmeraude: Hey folks!
2011-10-27 20:26:51 ZeoEmeraude: Hey Num
2011-10-27 20:27:12 Numenorean7: How are you ?
2011-10-27 20:27:25 ZeoEmeraude: I fare well. And you?
2011-10-27 20:27:39 Numenorean7: Yep, I'm doing pretty good.
2011-10-27 20:28:17 ZeoEmeraude: Hope we get a good crowd tonight
2011-10-27 20:28:27 JasperMoon: I'm here, just doing a round.
2011-10-27 20:28:43 ZeoEmeraude: Good to see ya Jasper
2011-10-27 20:28:58 ZeoEmeraude: Hello!
2011-10-27 20:29:06 Himalayan Hermit: Mates, howdy!
2011-10-27 20:29:06 kcwildman: howdy
2011-10-27 20:29:16 Himalayan Hermit: Do we have a special guest for tonight? This is my first chat room experience
2011-10-27 20:29:25 Himalayan Hermit: (any of the Titors? such as Ren
2011-10-27 20:29:53 ZeoEmeraude: Who knows who will show up.
2011-10-27 20:31:00 Secretman381: is this John titor chat?
2011-10-27 20:31:05 ZeoEmeraude: It is
2011-10-27 20:31:23 Numenorean7: Hey guys!
2011-10-27 20:31:27 Numenorean7: Yes it is!
2011-10-27 20:31:30 Secretman381: hello there.
2011-10-27 20:31:48 Numenorean7: Himalayan Hermit, is that you with the gmail address ?
2011-10-27 20:31:59 Himalayan Hermit: Yes, Sir
2011-10-27 20:32:02 Numenorean7: Sweet!
2011-10-27 20:32:05 Himalayan Hermit: This is Himalayan Hermit
2011-10-27 20:32:10 Himalayan Hermit: Not sure why my gmail is showing up and not UID
2011-10-27 20:32:20 Secretman381: al right where is ren?
2011-10-27 20:32:31 Numenorean7: You may just reload the page and log in the chat room with your username instead.
2011-10-27 20:32:37 Himalayan Hermit: ok BRB
2011-10-27 20:32:59 ZeoEmeraude: lolWb
2011-10-27 20:33:00 Himalayan Hermit: That worked, thanks!
2011-10-27 20:33:24 Himalayan Hermit: Is this the first ever John Titor Chat event, O OLd timers?
2011-10-27 20:33:36 ZeoEmeraude: nope...but its been a while
2011-10-27 20:33:55 Secretman381: so where is Ren.
2011-10-27 20:34:02 ZeoEmeraude: dunno
2011-10-27 20:34:21 Numenorean7: No idea, I didn't ask him if he was going to attend.
2011-10-27 20:34:29 Numenorean7: To be honest, I don't expect him to show up lol
2011-10-27 20:34:42 Numenorean7: Hey man!
2011-10-27 20:34:47 Himalayan Hermit: I may be wrong, but I recall Ren saying that he was leaving this timeline in July, so i was suprised to see him posting today. I've been away from this siute and spending time on abovetopsecret lately =)
2011-10-27 20:35:06 Numenorean7: He didn't leave, he was banned lol
2011-10-27 20:35:08 blaquejacques: just got kicked with connection to server lost...
2011-10-27 20:35:11 ZeoEmeraude: maybe he came back in time....after the ban
2011-10-27 20:35:13 Himalayan Hermit: Oh..
2011-10-27 20:35:28 Secretman381: why did you banned him Numenorean7
2011-10-27 20:35:34 Himalayan Hermit: (I started reading the thread he posted with 100 pages "i'm john titor ask me a question" on GLP site..)
2011-10-27 20:35:42 Numenorean7: He was messing with a few members, name calling and negative stuff.
2011-10-27 20:36:03 Secretman381: i see you should give him a second chance.
2011-10-27 20:36:10 Secretman381: if not then banned him.
2011-10-27 20:36:12 Numenorean7: I warned him several times until I decided to ban him for 2 week.s
2011-10-27 20:36:34 Numenorean7: It's been more than a few months now, he just made it back this week.
2011-10-27 20:36:36 Himalayan Hermit: Are we ok to give out links here?
2011-10-27 20:36:54 Numenorean7: Yeah, sure.
2011-10-27 20:37:11 Numenorean7: You may have some issues with copy/paste in this chatroom though.
2011-10-27 20:37:15 Himalayan Hermit: This is the original JT transcript from 2001 I started reading today. Somehow it's diff. than the one I read on ATS
2011-10-27 20:37:22 Himalayan Hermit: http://www.anomalies.net/object/titororiginalpost.html
2011-10-27 20:37:34 Himalayan Hermit: (for those who care to read it later)
2011-10-27 20:37:49 Numenorean7: Pretty neat, I never had a chance to check out the entire thing all in one spot.
2011-10-27 20:38:02 Numenorean7: Man, make sure you post this link in a new topic in the time travel section.
2011-10-27 20:38:10 Himalayan Hermit: Oh you think I should eh
2011-10-27 20:38:30 Numenorean7: Totally, it'll generate some interest in the Titor saga again.
2011-10-27 20:38:59 Secretman381: i think it a fake unless HDRkid show up for some answer.
2011-10-27 20:39:24 Numenorean7: Why do you think Titor is fake ?
2011-10-27 20:39:47 Secretman381: because where did he said that the Civil war going to happen.
2011-10-27 20:39:58 blaquejacques: 2005
2011-10-27 20:40:02 Secretman381: he said a year.
2011-10-27 20:40:03 Himalayan Hermit: Done
2011-10-27 20:40:09 Numenorean7: Yeah, I have to agree here, all of this didn't happen.
2011-10-27 20:40:13 Himalayan Hermit: What is fake?
2011-10-27 20:40:19 Numenorean7: That's the 1% dude.
2011-10-27 20:40:22 Himalayan Hermit: my link?
2011-10-27 20:40:33 Secretman381: no not you John titor story.
2011-10-27 20:41:09 Numenorean7: According to his theories regarding timelines and the like, Titor may still be right. The civil was is just a few years later. What do you think ?
2011-10-27 20:41:13 ZeoEmeraude: I cant say that its real or fake. But I do have concerns with the Occupy Movement that has been sweeping the planet. It could lead to that Civil war here.
2011-10-27 20:41:25 Numenorean7: Good call.
2011-10-27 20:41:28 ZeoEmeraude: People are getting desperate.
2011-10-27 20:41:29 Himalayan Hermit: well i;ve read many threads guys from independent people and they did find lot of things that have come true. Most people call him a fake based on civil war prediction, but i think there was a long discussion on it
2011-10-27 20:41:49 Numenorean7: A 10 years long discussion.
2011-10-27 20:42:06 Himalayan Hermit: YES, dang right on this anti wall. I posted a link where an ex marine's skull was fractured right here in Oakland, CA due to alleged police actions
2011-10-27 20:42:07 Secretman381: well it not call Civil war it more a overthrow the goverment stuff.
2011-10-27 20:42:15 blaquejacques: well at least his time machine had an interresting design...
2011-10-27 20:42:32 ZeoEmeraude: The London Olympics are coming up. They may get caneled. Think back on those riots a few months ago.
2011-10-27 20:42:46 Secretman381: true...it possible.
2011-10-27 20:42:54 Numenorean7: I think Titor's future may still happen in the next few years.
2011-10-27 20:43:13 ZeoEmeraude: I agree that a divergence could be the issue with the dates.
2011-10-27 20:43:28 blaquejacques: or not... maybe this timeline is alot farther than he tought...
2011-10-27 20:43:35 ZeoEmeraude: indeed
2011-10-27 20:43:41 Numenorean7: Yeah Zeo, I sure don't like to use the divergence as an argument, but it may be so.
2011-10-27 20:43:41 JasperMoon: I have been supporting the Occupy Wall Street. I'm tired of all those bankers like Bank America thinking they can screw the american public
2011-10-27 20:44:17 Secretman381: yea me too but we want peace and fair to all people i don't want to see people get hurt.
2011-10-27 20:44:17 JasperMoon: I invited my Titor UK groups @ yahoo.com to visit. I hope they are looking at their emails now.
2011-10-27 20:44:20 ZeoEmeraude: I support it as well. I was out of work for 11 months. I just got a job. I am relieved that I can now help my family again.
2011-10-27 20:45:09 JasperMoon: Too many people are out of work. I'm lucky I am in a place where it doesn't show it so bad. New York economy is sluggish but still hanging in ther.
2011-10-27 20:45:14 ZeoEmeraude: A lot of folks bring up the divergence. Is it viable? possibly. But I can't rule it out.
2011-10-27 20:45:21 Numenorean7: Exactly.
2011-10-27 20:45:38 Numenorean7: If we're dealing with timelines here, it's all very possible.
2011-10-27 20:45:44 Himalayan Hermit: Divergence is possible if you believe in timelines
2011-10-27 20:45:55 JasperMoon: mnay people on project camelot have spoken about how we are now in another timeline. TPTB have been screwing around with that as well.
2011-10-27 20:46:12 Secretman381: if this get worse in the future i just wonder..how come John Titor never talk about UFO.
2011-10-27 20:46:27 Himalayan Hermit: Btw, Ren claimed that he knows about Philadelphia Experiment, Montauk Propject etc.. too
2011-10-27 20:46:32 blaquejacques: big business is now international...it doesn't concern itself with nationalities and such. They just use the cheapest labor and sell it to us with a smile.
2011-10-27 20:46:36 Himalayan Hermit: forgot if on GLP or which site
2011-10-27 20:46:50 Numenorean7: Ren isn't John Titor for sure.
2011-10-27 20:47:00 Numenorean7: He said it out loud in the forum this summer.
2011-10-27 20:47:07 ZeoEmeraude: Indeed. he is a hoaxer. We proved that.
2011-10-27 20:47:09 Himalayan Hermit: hahaha, ya it looks. He never replied to me when I proved him wrong for 1998 birth
2011-10-27 20:47:46 JasperMoon: so he DID have a fake birth certificate lol
2011-10-27 20:47:49 Numenorean7: I'm open to discuss his stuff and enjoy it, but I know he's probably making his stuff up anyways.
2011-10-27 20:48:16 blaquejacques: I wonder if anybody that gave tTitor an email to send to themselves in 1998 got it???
2011-10-27 20:48:27 ZeoEmeraude: I remain firm on his status. Look at his latest posts. he wants to be proven wrong.
2011-10-27 20:48:32 Himalayan Hermit: The best thing on John Titor I found was C2C AM call with Oliver whats his name
2011-10-27 20:48:42 JasperMoon: Oliver williams
2011-10-27 20:48:44 Numenorean7: Oliver Williams?
2011-10-27 20:48:52 ZeoEmeraude: I wanted to upload it here! too bad I cant
2011-10-27 20:48:57 Himalayan Hermit: Yea that ws intersting. I downloaded the MP3s to listen at ease
2011-10-27 20:49:07 Secretman381: you may get it at youtube.com
2011-10-27 20:49:17 Himalayan Hermit: just extract audio from Youtube Vids, whole show is on there. Simple plugin for Firefox or Chrome to do that
2011-10-27 20:49:21 Numenorean7: Wait, it's on Youtube? Dhu.
2011-10-27 20:49:37 JasperMoon: what's the exact title so we can get it.
2011-10-27 20:49:43 Himalayan Hermit: i can get the link
2011-10-27 20:49:50 ZeoEmeraude: I got the original show from the C2C site. Never bothered with youtube.
2011-10-27 20:50:02 Numenorean7: Zeo, feel free to post those on the forum then. lol looks like someone leaked them on Youtube.
2011-10-27 20:50:04 JasperMoon: don't you have to be a member though
2011-10-27 20:50:11 Secretman381: maybe not to sure but some of coast ot coast am with George radio show on you tube.com
2011-10-27 20:50:13 ZeoEmeraude: I will then
2011-10-27 20:50:22 JasperMoon: good I can get them there
2011-10-27 20:50:31 ZeoEmeraude: I am a member on C2C..Streamlink
2011-10-27 20:50:47 Secretman381: there is not alot of that time travel talk show there.
2011-10-27 20:50:58 ZeoEmeraude: Archives
2011-10-27 20:51:05 Himalayan Hermit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPseFplKXf8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwYPcg6gLBA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snWbuFTIoXE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAq8Mqd87_o
2011-10-27 20:51:12 Numenorean7: What do you guys know about PamelaM ?
2011-10-27 20:51:14 Himalayan Hermit: These 4 should be the complete C2C show
2011-10-27 20:51:25 ZeoEmeraude: Is it the entire broadcast?
2011-10-27 20:51:42 Numenorean7: Nice.
2011-10-27 20:51:44 ZeoEmeraude: I know no one has heard from here in a bit.
2011-10-27 20:51:56 ZeoEmeraude: *her
2011-10-27 20:52:02 Numenorean7: I heard she still posts a liiiittle bit on TTI.
2011-10-27 20:52:03 Himalayan Hermit: Is Pamela his mother that refused for an interview on C2C ?>
2011-10-27 20:52:19 Secretman381: she is not online for some reason so i just wonder she disapper.
2011-10-27 20:52:31 Numenorean7: Pamela is a girl Titor aledgely met in real life, right?
2011-10-27 20:52:40 Numenorean7: I've never been sure they met or not. Did they?
2011-10-27 20:52:50 JasperMoon: got it on now.
2011-10-27 20:52:54 ZeoEmeraude: They did I believe.
2011-10-27 20:53:04 Numenorean7: Yeah, I believe they did.
2011-10-27 20:53:26 ZeoEmeraude: She got that password from him that validates his identity.
2011-10-27 20:53:45 Numenorean7: Yessir, that's what I heard too. I didn't know until this summer when Chip brought it up.
2011-10-27 20:54:20 Numenorean7: She's supposed to be the only one able to validate if you, me, or anyone is the real Titor.
2011-10-27 20:54:31 ZeoEmeraude: I wonder if she has sought out the younger John Tiitor who is alive now.
2011-10-27 20:54:33 blaquejacques: So where is John Titor... the one from THIS timeline... if he was born in 1998, he should be 13 years old now...
2011-10-27 20:54:40 Secretman381: i see who was John Titor real name.
2011-10-27 20:55:01 Himalayan Hermit: John Titor is not a real name ofcourse
2011-10-27 20:55:08 Numenorean7: I assume that she tried to find him, right? Did she get in touch with his mother or something ?
2011-10-27 20:55:08 ZeoEmeraude: Folks speculate that the name is an acronym.
2011-10-27 20:55:17 Numenorean7: I assume it's an acronym as well.
2011-10-27 20:55:39 Secretman381: we never know the real name of John Titor.
2011-10-27 20:55:50 ZeoEmeraude: I think she does.
2011-10-27 20:55:58 Himalayan Hermit: I saw a full version of John Titor on one of the sites
2011-10-27 20:56:06 Himalayan Hermit: Titor = time traveller something somwerthing
2011-10-27 20:56:12 Numenorean7: Pamela sure has a weird story.
2011-10-27 20:56:25 Numenorean7: Yeah HH, it was something made out of "time travel".
2011-10-27 20:56:49 Numenorean7: Pam used to post on Paranormalis in the old days.
2011-10-27 20:57:00 Himalayan Hermit: can we find an old thread?
2011-10-27 20:57:06 Secretman381: when John Titor time travel to the past it all way not the same timeline he is in.
2011-10-27 20:57:20 ZeoEmeraude: I have always thought that she is somehow related to him. For all we know, she could be his aunt.
2011-10-27 20:57:23 Numenorean7: Sure.
2011-10-27 20:58:08 Secretman381: i just wonder if John Titor die...then a younger titor is alive.
2011-10-27 20:58:19 Numenorean7: Her profile: click on the posting tab. http://paranormalis.com/members/258
2011-10-27 20:58:36 Himalayan Hermit: Wow PamelaM was last seen: Jun 28, 2006
2011-10-27 20:58:46 Numenorean7: I think she came later than that.
2011-10-27 20:58:57 JasperMoon: Would she have moved to the midwest
2011-10-27 20:59:02 Himalayan Hermit: only 1 thread. will go thru this multipage thread tonit
2011-10-27 20:59:05 Numenorean7: Paranromalis' database has a black hole between 2006 and 2008.
2011-10-27 20:59:28 ZeoEmeraude: lol..yea
2011-10-27 20:59:32 Numenorean7: That part of the database was lost, same thing with about 40% of the old topics between 2004 and 2006.
2011-10-27 20:59:44 ZeoEmeraude: A lot of posts
2011-10-27 20:59:48 Secretman381: top secret now so that is why it is lost.
2011-10-27 20:59:51 Numenorean7: Some valuable topic from Pam may have been lost on that day.
2011-10-27 21:00:00 Himalayan Hermit: Did people see that Al Bielik died?
2011-10-27 21:00:05 ZeoEmeraude: yup
2011-10-27 21:00:19 Himalayan Hermit: now HIS was a story
2011-10-27 21:00:26 Numenorean7: Man.
2011-10-27 21:00:35 Secretman381: just kiding Numenorean7
2011-10-27 21:00:40 Himalayan Hermit: again i tell myself I don't have to make my mind, jjust read and ponder
2011-10-27 21:00:55 Numenorean7: yeah, MIB erased it from the forum.
2011-10-27 21:01:07 Numenorean7: Oppmur knows a lot about this guy.
2011-10-27 21:01:08 blaquejacques: to preserve the timeline
2011-10-27 21:01:12 Numenorean7: LOL
2011-10-27 21:01:17 Numenorean7: Good cal!
2011-10-27 21:01:17 JasperMoon: he talked about cities that floated in the air
2011-10-27 21:01:27 Numenorean7: The sphinx in the jungle.
2011-10-27 21:01:28 Himalayan Hermit: i've read many people's counts who met him personaly
2011-10-27 21:01:42 Secretman381: i think that when ET come back we have this city floated in the air.
2011-10-27 21:01:50 Himalayan Hermit: anyone heard of John Bajak? the time traveler who built design to Flux Capacitor and went mad?
2011-10-27 21:01:56 JasperMoon: no
2011-10-27 21:01:57 Secretman381: yes..
2011-10-27 21:01:59 Himalayan Hermit: (not sure if he was for real)
2011-10-27 21:02:00 Numenorean7: I sure did.
2011-10-27 21:02:11 Numenorean7: I've read a lot about him.
2011-10-27 21:02:18 Himalayan Hermit: hmm..interesting it was surely
2011-10-27 21:02:24 blaquejacques: he went mad???
2011-10-27 21:02:35 Himalayan Hermit: apparently he ended up or committed himself (?)
2011-10-27 21:02:38 Secretman381: have you heard Mad man markus?
2011-10-27 21:02:41 Numenorean7: Yeah, he's in the nut house since the early 90s, right?
2011-10-27 21:02:46 Himalayan Hermit: No who is Markus?
2011-10-27 21:02:52 Himalayan Hermit: (Yes since 90s I read )
2011-10-27 21:02:55 JasperMoon: don't know
2011-10-27 21:03:03 Secretman381: this guy who use the jacob ladder to use for time travel.
2011-10-27 21:03:16 Numenorean7: I used to watch some guy on the net who built Flux Caps using Bajak's designs.
2011-10-27 21:03:32 Himalayan Hermit: (Ive had this movie jacobs ladder for 1 yr haven't seen it. Tim Robbins I think. I need to re read definition of Jacob's ladder)
2011-10-27 21:03:34 Secretman381: he aim a laser beam between the Jacob ladder and found some kind of vortex.
2011-10-27 21:03:50 Numenorean7: I never heard of that.
2011-10-27 21:04:03 JasperMoon: me neither. I did hear of Jacob's ladder, the bible one
2011-10-27 21:04:20 Numenorean7: I heard the term "Jacob's ladder" but I have no idea what it is.
2011-10-27 21:04:21 Secretman381: listin to the coast to coast am radio show on the youtube.com
2011-10-27 21:04:23 Himalayan Hermit: Guyssssssssss
2011-10-27 21:04:31 Himalayan Hermit: Ren is responding to threads right now. Let's invite him
2011-10-27 21:04:36 Secretman381: ok cool.
2011-10-27 21:04:40 Himalayan Hermit: Who can?
2011-10-27 21:04:43 Numenorean7: ok, let me send him a message right away.
2011-10-27 21:04:48 Himalayan Hermit: suweet
2011-10-27 21:04:54 Secretman381: sweet let him in.
2011-10-27 21:04:55 ZeoEmeraude: this should be interesting
2011-10-27 21:05:04 JasperMoon: yes I want to know the future
2011-10-27 21:05:42 Numenorean7: Alright, sent.
2011-10-27 21:05:50 blaquejacques: I want the model number of his GE time machine so I can put an advance order...
2011-10-27 21:05:50 JasperMoon: I wrote a time travel short for a Rod Serling story contest, but I didn't win.
2011-10-27 21:05:50 Himalayan Hermit: He says about Polar Shift that I asked him about :
2011-10-27 21:05:58 ZeoEmeraude: Fear FEMA...thats the future
2011-10-27 21:06:00 Himalayan Hermit: "It is happening now. Red skies at night. Oh, oh."
2011-10-27 21:06:12 Secretman381: i worry about that FEMA.
2011-10-27 21:06:13 Numenorean7: HH, do you know much about Bajak's flux cap ?
2011-10-27 21:06:30 JasperMoon: Ii've watched those damn train cars go back and forth for a couple of years up here
2011-10-27 21:06:59 Secretman381: i think they are use for end time event.
2011-10-27 21:07:00 Himalayan Hermit: @ Num - Yes i've gone thru the whole thread + the letter he wrote about his cap. It sounded dangerous
2011-10-27 21:07:18 Numenorean7: You saw the original article from usenet, right ?
2011-10-27 21:07:22 Himalayan Hermit: Yes.
2011-10-27 21:07:25 Numenorean7: I have a copy of it here
2011-10-27 21:07:35 ZeoEmeraude: Id like to see that
2011-10-27 21:07:44 Numenorean7: Some guy called Wolf used to build a lot of these devices.
2011-10-27 21:07:48 Numenorean7: Let me post the link
2011-10-27 21:08:22 Numenorean7: http://paranormalis.com/pages/bajak
2011-10-27 21:08:29 Himalayan Hermit: No Ren, No HDR KID (pls don't start with bashing ) - ahhh
2011-10-27 21:08:54 Numenorean7: It's the real thing from amasci.com
2011-10-27 21:08:56 JasperMoon: don't want to get bashed?
2011-10-27 21:09:07 Himalayan Hermit: Yep, same link is here http://amasci.com/freenrg/bajak1.txt
2011-10-27 21:09:08 Numenorean7: No one wants to lol
2011-10-27 21:09:20 Numenorean7: Where did you find it ?
2011-10-27 21:09:28 Himalayan Hermit: No i don't believe in bashing, no real sense. as long as it's fun, let'a keep it like that
2011-10-27 21:09:31 Numenorean7: I found on HDRKID's fluxcap.com years ago, before I came to know about Paranormalis.
2011-10-27 21:10:04 Himalayan Hermit: Anyone into Astral Projection here while we wait for Ren aka JT
2011-10-27 21:10:17 JasperMoon: I don't either. But maybe they think we'll be doing it to them.
2011-10-27 21:10:35 Numenorean7: Astral projection isn't that easy to achieve.
2011-10-27 21:10:52 ZeoEmeraude: I lucid dream. Astral is way harder. your mind has to be right
2011-10-27 21:11:04 Himalayan Hermit: ive done tons of reserach into it from few angles (sound, beats, meditation, etc)..its fascinating
2011-10-27 21:11:06 Numenorean7: I lucid dream sometimes.
2011-10-27 21:11:17 Himalayan Hermit: differentiate LD and AP in 1 sentence?
2011-10-27 21:11:21 Numenorean7: I'm able to meditate now.
2011-10-27 21:11:49 ZeoEmeraude: you have control in the lucid state. its not that easy to achieve in Astral.
2011-10-27 21:12:07 Numenorean7: I never had an out of body experience, ever.
2011-10-27 21:12:17 Himalayan Hermit: So LD is "conscious, at will" ? and AP is where you're not in control?
2011-10-27 21:12:20 Numenorean7: How are you supposed to make this happen?
2011-10-27 21:12:24 JasperMoon: any extraterrestrials here in the chat room tonight? Just curious
2011-10-27 21:12:38 Secretman381: i think we all ET here.
2011-10-27 21:12:47 blaquejacques: sirius B represent, yo!!!
2011-10-27 21:12:49 JasperMoon: some say we are
2011-10-27 21:12:57 Numenorean7: Let's stay on topic here please, this is getting interesting.
2011-10-27 21:13:02 JasperMoon: are you sirius?
2011-10-27 21:13:10 Himalayan Hermit: I had 2 experiences
2011-10-27 21:13:23 Himalayan Hermit: one was at will, i achieved at 90% success. other was a bit off
2011-10-27 21:13:30 ZeoEmeraude: For me. I become "aware" when I dream. I trigger this by identifying certain objects. This allows me to control what aspects of the dream manifest.
2011-10-27 21:13:40 Numenorean7: Hmm
2011-10-27 21:13:50 Secretman381: have anybody try the ELF Generator i heard that you can use that for Astral Projeciton?
2011-10-27 21:14:15 Numenorean7: No, but I think CMAC has one, I'm not sure.
2011-10-27 21:14:21 JasperMoon: No, I don't think I want to change myself into Will Farrell
2011-10-27 21:14:29 ZeoEmeraude: For example. If I were being attacked in a dream, I would look for the sword that I know is always there at my arms reach.
2011-10-27 21:14:33 blaquejacques: why would you need to project elves???
2011-10-27 21:14:51 Secretman381: you heard of it?
2011-10-27 21:14:59 JasperMoon: it's getting to look alot like Christmas Blacque!
2011-10-27 21:15:01 Numenorean7: I don't know what it does.
2011-10-27 21:15:34 Secretman381: type the word ELF Generator and it can do lot of thing.
2011-10-27 21:15:45 Secretman381: on the yahoo search engine.
2011-10-27 21:15:57 Secretman381: and there a company that sell that.
2011-10-27 21:16:08 Secretman381: 88 watts of power.
2011-10-27 21:16:26 Numenorean7: hmm
2011-10-27 21:16:40 Numenorean7: It has to do with energy waves.
2011-10-27 21:16:51 Secretman381: you can control the power of it but you can remote view,telepath,Astral Projection and other thing.
2011-10-27 21:16:55 Himalayan Hermit: Price $1369-? are you kiddin
2011-10-27 21:16:58 Secretman381: yes
2011-10-27 21:17:03 ZeoEmeraude: lol
2011-10-27 21:17:15 Numenorean7: Wow.
2011-10-27 21:17:29 Himalayan Hermit: no machine can give you what mind control and meditation can. Meditation means a whole diff thing to people in the western hemisphere and most teachers dont teach/know more than 5% of it
2011-10-27 21:17:35 Numenorean7: Now, I'm not sure CMAC has one, he must have some other device then.
2011-10-27 21:17:49 Himalayan Hermit: since ive done experiements with a machine meself, i should feel guilty
2011-10-27 21:17:56 ZeoEmeraude: I have a cheaper method. Use your mind. Cleanse your body of impurities and meditate.
2011-10-27 21:17:57 Secretman381: if you really want to do it maybe this is the way you can do.
2011-10-27 21:18:20 Numenorean7: Like the HDR, it's supposed to enhance abilities you already have.
2011-10-27 21:18:34 blaquejacques: It's always about brainwave manipulation anyways. But untrained people try it anyway...
2011-10-27 21:18:36 Secretman381: i search for Astral Projection for a long time i been trying to do that but it so hard.
2011-10-27 21:18:47 ZeoEmeraude: Nirvanna can't be reached in a day.
2011-10-27 21:18:54 Numenorean7: It's a long path.
2011-10-27 21:19:01 ZeoEmeraude: many lifetimes long
2011-10-27 21:19:04 Numenorean7: It won't happen over night.
2011-10-27 21:19:06 Himalayan Hermit: Yep!
2011-10-27 21:19:20 Himalayan Hermit: Hey Ren didn't reply? We have strayed from JT!
2011-10-27 21:19:26 Numenorean7: Again, are these devices placebos?
2011-10-27 21:19:38 ZeoEmeraude: I would say yes.
2011-10-27 21:19:41 Numenorean7: No, I think he was already gone when we noticed he was here.
2011-10-27 21:19:56 Secretman381: i did not see him here yet
2011-10-27 21:20:07 Numenorean7: Those devices work for some people, it doesn't for others.
2011-10-27 21:20:12 Numenorean7: they*
2011-10-27 21:20:40 Numenorean7: lol
2011-10-27 21:20:56 blaquejacques: go kicked out again...
2011-10-27 21:21:00 Numenorean7: Damn!
2011-10-27 21:21:10 Secretman381: maybe push the wrong button.
2011-10-27 21:21:20 Himalayan Hermit: Yes, I agree with Num. Devices are not universal, won't work for all
2011-10-27 21:21:45 Secretman381: true what about the light and sound machine? that a mind machine also.
2011-10-27 21:21:51 Numenorean7: I believe it has to do with the user, being able to open up enough to remove any doubt and completely believe in the device's purpose.
2011-10-27 21:22:07 Numenorean7: Again, the same can be said about a magic potatoe.
2011-10-27 21:22:13 blaquejacques: as i was trying to say, these device induce a shift in the brain's operating frequency... so they do something...
2011-10-27 21:22:40 Numenorean7: Yeah, exactly, does something to the brain. Waves, magnets, etc.
2011-10-27 21:22:52 ZeoEmeraude: not my cup of tea.

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