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John Titor's Legacy
John Titor: Real Time Traveler or a Hoaxer?
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<blockquote data-quote="Apogee" data-source="post: 29074" data-attributes="member: 600"><p><strong>Re: John Titor Is A Hoax Exclusive Report</strong></p><p></p><p>A great many politicians staked their careers on pushing this constitution through. Of course they've got to describe its rejection as some kind of disaster. Chirac in particular went out if his way warning the French of a doom and gloom scenario if EU member nations didn't ratify it. He even said the reason they had to vote was simply (and rather laughably) because there was no Plan B. </p><p> </p><p>People just didn't buy it. However, as dead as the issue might appear at the moment, this is politics and things can change at the drop of a hat. Ireland, for example, voted no in their referendeum and then voted yes in a second one.</p><p> </p><p>Many people believe that, ultimately, the constitution was fine but favoured big business over the average citizen, in which case any future attempt to bring about closer ties with member states might actually benefit enormously from people's skepticism this time around.</p><p> </p><p>And lets not forget the power of good old fashioned xenophobia: All governments pass dumb laws occasionally, but what's worse than having a dumb law enforced upon you? Having one forced upon you by a foreign country! The issues involved in a European Union are, it could be argued, much more complex than the American one. </p><p> </p><p>Sure, there's a lot of dismay amongst those who worked so hard to set this thing up but I think it would be dangerous to ignore the dangers of the self-fulfilling prophecy. If you've got enough people saying this is the beginning of a major destabilisation in Europe, (and none of them are incidentally) perhaps it will create an atmosphere more likely to bring that about.</p><p> </p><p>There is no reason to believe this no vote by France and the Netherlands is anything other than just another example of democracy in action. Politicians will play the fear card whenever it bolsters their arguments. </p><p> </p><p>Besides it seems to me that the real burden of evidence in Titor's case is entirely on the time traveller's shoulders themselves. Instead of arguing about whether events in Europe back up his claims as accurate, why not go to town on his many inaccuracies? Not to mention his biggest zinger of all...his three rules of non-dislosure:</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'">1. I will not disclose any information that will cause someone to personally</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'">gain by its knowledge. This means no stock or sports tips.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'">2. I will not disclose any detailed information that would allow someone to</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'">avoid death by probability. This means no earthquake or bombing information.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'">3. I will not disclose any information that may compromise any future</span></span></p><p><span style="color: black"><span style="font-family: 'Book Antiqua'">actions by individual people or threaten their family and well-being.</span></span></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Telling us ANYTHING at all violates at least two of these rules. The very act of spending a few moments reading them would alter someone's timeline significantly enough to effect changes in their lives that may change them for better or worse. Why the absolute hypocrisy of this weird code of conduct?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Apogee, post: 29074, member: 600"] [b]Re: John Titor Is A Hoax Exclusive Report[/b] A great many politicians staked their careers on pushing this constitution through. Of course they've got to describe its rejection as some kind of disaster. Chirac in particular went out if his way warning the French of a doom and gloom scenario if EU member nations didn't ratify it. He even said the reason they had to vote was simply (and rather laughably) because there was no Plan B. People just didn't buy it. However, as dead as the issue might appear at the moment, this is politics and things can change at the drop of a hat. Ireland, for example, voted no in their referendeum and then voted yes in a second one. Many people believe that, ultimately, the constitution was fine but favoured big business over the average citizen, in which case any future attempt to bring about closer ties with member states might actually benefit enormously from people's skepticism this time around. And lets not forget the power of good old fashioned xenophobia: All governments pass dumb laws occasionally, but what's worse than having a dumb law enforced upon you? Having one forced upon you by a foreign country! The issues involved in a European Union are, it could be argued, much more complex than the American one. Sure, there's a lot of dismay amongst those who worked so hard to set this thing up but I think it would be dangerous to ignore the dangers of the self-fulfilling prophecy. If you've got enough people saying this is the beginning of a major destabilisation in Europe, (and none of them are incidentally) perhaps it will create an atmosphere more likely to bring that about. There is no reason to believe this no vote by France and the Netherlands is anything other than just another example of democracy in action. Politicians will play the fear card whenever it bolsters their arguments. Besides it seems to me that the real burden of evidence in Titor's case is entirely on the time traveller's shoulders themselves. Instead of arguing about whether events in Europe back up his claims as accurate, why not go to town on his many inaccuracies? Not to mention his biggest zinger of all...his three rules of non-dislosure: [color=black][font='Book Antiqua']1. I will not disclose any information that will cause someone to personally gain by its knowledge. This means no stock or sports tips.[/font][/color][font='Book Antiqua'][/font][color=black][font='Book Antiqua'][/font][/color][font='Book Antiqua'][/font] [color=black][font='Book Antiqua']2. I will not disclose any detailed information that would allow someone to avoid death by probability. This means no earthquake or bombing information.[/font][/color][font='Book Antiqua'][/font][color=black][font='Book Antiqua'][/font][/color][font='Book Antiqua'][/font] [color=black][font='Book Antiqua']3. I will not disclose any information that may compromise any future actions by individual people or threaten their family and well-being.[/font][/color][font='Book Antiqua'][/font][color=black][font='Book Antiqua'][/font][/color][font='Book Antiqua'][/font] Telling us ANYTHING at all violates at least two of these rules. The very act of spending a few moments reading them would alter someone's timeline significantly enough to effect changes in their lives that may change them for better or worse. Why the absolute hypocrisy of this weird code of conduct? [/QUOTE]
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