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John Titor: Real Time Traveler or a Hoaxer?
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<blockquote data-quote="LetThereBeLight!" data-source="post: 29219" data-attributes="member: 603"><p><strong>Re: John Titor Update: Exclusive Report!</strong></p><p></p><p>Yes, some of the links are dead now. On the Titor page here, at MadIce's website, the links have been updated that can be updated. First, the TTI forum (Time Travel Institute) where the first 2 threads were posted --- Parallel Universes --- Topic Limited to 11 Pages ---- type threads, were up with the old board, then the board changed names, then they went down, then Pamela asked if they could be added again within the new name's board, and they were, as much as they could be, again because the "Topic Limited to 11 pages" ended, and no more postings were shown. They were found, and added, but a glitch in the software usually is the main problem. As much as the original threads can be, all were copied at that time. MadIce went through, and changed them only to the extent of updated links and providing a slightely different format of the original threads. Oh, the other thread is "Time Travel Paradoxes" and it is corrupt, and I think MadIce includes the original date that the posts were made>>>></p><p></p><p>At the bottom of this page, are the links to the reconstructed threads:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor</a></p><p> </p><p>The only reconstruction, like I said, is updating links that can be updated, and a slightly different question to Titor, and Answers given by Titor there at MadIce's forum, so if the person reading it wants the answer given by Titor, you can click there to go to the answer.</p><p>At Art Bell's BBS forum, were I posted, the thread is the original, saved by various people who posted on that thread, whereas you will see, that Titor is behind the posting by several pages, taking breaks of a few days or a week while people are wondering where he is at, and when he will post again. But Titor posts which page he is answering according to the old pages of the Art Bell BBS forum, usually which are shorter than posting page length at forums are today. Anomalies pages are way longer, as it only takes 3 pages to post the entire thread -- "I am from 2036", which at the Art Bell BBS forum - Post to Post - took entirely for the thread -- 33 pages whereas Titor left, and said so, and the posting continued on -- to 61 pages there.</p><p> </p><p>Original pictures were given as to the links to find those pictures.</p><p>Original pictures from original people here (and the first pictures given by Titor):</p><p><a href="http://www.anomalies.net/time_travel/john.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">http://www.anomalies.net/time_travel/john.html</span></a></p><p>unless you think that right clicking and saving a picture changes it, and all the original people who held these pictures to look at again, means that all of us people changed them to all the same whatever pictures you think. (We did not change these pictures, because all people giving the pictures all have the same pictures.)</p><p>The original website that Titor posted the pictures on, can not be found in the web archive, as they have been looked for by other people, and it was not copied into the archive at that time, because again website change names, and the websites are gone!</p><p> </p><p>But the origina pictures that were cleaned up, by the original posters asking for a better version of the pictures at the end or during the original discussion can be found of the Art Bell BBS forum site -- archived:</p><p>Original pictures shown but cleaned up by Titor:</p><p><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20010522234641/http://artbell.com/letters11.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">http://web.archive.org/web/20010522234641/http://artbell.com/letters11.html</span></a></p><p>and these are the cleaned-up version of the pictures by none other than John Titor -- himself, and sent by e-mail to Art Bell in 2001, by the end of March or early April, before JT claimed that he was leaving this worldline!</p><p> </p><p>First 5 pages of the Art Bell BBS Forum -- Post to Post in the Archive, but only the first 5 pages -- and the last page -- because the Art Bell BBS Forum ended in May of 2001, and the crawler did not archive the entire thread, and could not because like other websites that go down or change names, it was gone, and the web crawler program does not archive everything anyway.</p><p><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20010516223421/http://bbs.artbell.com/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">http://web.archive.org/web/20010516223421/http://bbs.artbell.com/</span></a></p><p><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20010603064617/bbs.artbell.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=25" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">http://web.archive.org/web/20010603064617/bbs.artbell.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=25</span></a></p><p>Now for the "I am from 2036" thread at that time, and as it was back in 2001:</p><p><a href="http://web.archive.org/web/20010413040119/bbs.artbell.com/showthread.php?threadid=1203" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">http://web.archive.org/web/20010413040119/bbs.artbell.com/showthread.php?threadid=1203</span></a></p><p></p><p>All threads at TTI forum, originally Xone.Net or whatever the links are in the thread of "I am from 2036" were updated at one time, still preserved by TTI after Pamela asked, were put back up, for a while, but some went by the wayside, and could not be restored. Try around page 35, if there is a page 35 there for threads. Or even page 40. I found them once, but since people start so many threads there, what was page 30 back a couple of years ago, probably is page 50 now, and probably is not there anymore.</p><p>All of those threads still can be found at Anomalies, but finding them is another thing, but they are all there nonetheless!</p><p> </p><p>I don't think of looking for them, since MadIce website has those threads and they are much easier to find there, then looking through 32 pages of threads at Anomalies!!!</p><p>A thread about the thread "Time Travel Paradoxes" at the original place:</p><p><a href="http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=11227&Forum=CatSearch-1&Words=%22Time%20Travel%20Paradoxes%22&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=11224&Search=true#Post11227" target="_blank">http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforu...=true#Post11227</a></p><p> </p><p>Page 73 of the original forum: (Time travel discussion)</p><p>The original thread "Time Travel Paradoxes" here but only the first post:</p><p><a href="http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=8772&page=72&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&vc=1" target="_blank">http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforu...ed&sb=5&o=&vc=1</a></p><p> </p><p>page 69 of the original forum:</p><p>The thread "Topic Limited to 11 Pages?" original thread:</p><p><a href="http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=9237&page=68&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1" target="_blank">http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforu...sb=5&o=&fpart=1</a></p><p> </p><p>Nope that is about it there:</p><p>Now at Anomalies taken from the old Art Bell BBS forum and the threads (I just love looking through a 100 pages of thread topics!):</p><p> </p><p>page 31 or 32 at Anomalies:</p><p>The original thread "I am from 2040" --- (Titor Nemesis!)</p><p><a href="http://communities.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=000032" target="_blank">http://communities.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/b...ic;f=9;t=000032</a></p><p> </p><p>page 28 at Anomalies::</p><p>The original thread saved from TTI of "Time-travel Paradoxes" (and as you can see the first post is the same post listed at the TTI link!)</p><p><a href="http://communities.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=000277" target="_blank">http://communities.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/b...ic;f=9;t=000277</a></p><p> </p><p>The original thread at Anomalies of "I am from 2036" (slightly edited and not really changed and I know, I still have it, and all the place mats of the original postings make it difficult to even work with, but a very few post were deleted that were not needed):</p><p><a href="http://communities.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=000024" target="_blank">http://communities.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/b...ic;f=9;t=000024</a></p><p> </p><p>The entire original thread can still be read from Anomalies on the John Picture Page there, and can be downloaded to read at home:</p><p><a href="http://www.anomalies.net/time_travel/john.html" target="_blank"><span style="color: #0000ff">http://www.anomalies.net/time_travel/john.html</span></a> ---- as it says there on that page!</p><p> </p><p>That is about it for the person posting as John Titor and earlier as TimeTravel_0, except for the "chats" and one is listed at the Anomalies page of John the Time Traveller, as well as the Faxes posted to Art Bell, that one can find also at Anomalies. The rest of the original threads are a discussion about what John Titor said, and do not include his postings, so I did not list those threads.</p><p> </p><p>The original format of Art Bell was not included, since those editing place mats (by the hundreds are in that thread) and had to be taken out, edited by the original Mary, since the board had posting rules, some of which people did not follow, so the posts were edited by the web administrator -- Mary and Ken at the Art Bell BBS forum back on the original thread.</p><p> </p><p>But the words are the same, even if misspelled, at the original time the posts were made.</p><p> </p><p>And really, you would not want the original format shown in the archive from the Art Bell BBS forum - Post to Post -- as they ended up looking in Microsoft's Office Word. (messy with hundreds of edited placemat pictures to take out!)</p><p> </p><p>Thanks to Pamela and the original posters who saved the material, and to Anomalies and TTI for perserving those original threads, even though websites change names, and if a link is broken, then an archive of the website could not be found in the archive as posted by MadIce, who did look for them, and the others can still be found!</p><p> </p><p>Afterall, a lot of people have read them, but it is also difficult to remember everything that was posted at the time --- like Raul said -- 422 posts -- but the thread is corrupted, but a saved copy of it at the time is given above!</p><p></p><p>Oh, by the way -- Search Engines do not really work all that well, at least for me!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LetThereBeLight!, post: 29219, member: 603"] [b]Re: John Titor Update: Exclusive Report![/b] Yes, some of the links are dead now. On the Titor page here, at MadIce's website, the links have been updated that can be updated. First, the TTI forum (Time Travel Institute) where the first 2 threads were posted --- Parallel Universes --- Topic Limited to 11 Pages ---- type threads, were up with the old board, then the board changed names, then they went down, then Pamela asked if they could be added again within the new name's board, and they were, as much as they could be, again because the "Topic Limited to 11 pages" ended, and no more postings were shown. They were found, and added, but a glitch in the software usually is the main problem. As much as the original threads can be, all were copied at that time. MadIce went through, and changed them only to the extent of updated links and providing a slightely different format of the original threads. Oh, the other thread is "Time Travel Paradoxes" and it is corrupt, and I think MadIce includes the original date that the posts were made>>>> At the bottom of this page, are the links to the reconstructed threads: [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Titor[/url] The only reconstruction, like I said, is updating links that can be updated, and a slightly different question to Titor, and Answers given by Titor there at MadIce's forum, so if the person reading it wants the answer given by Titor, you can click there to go to the answer. At Art Bell's BBS forum, were I posted, the thread is the original, saved by various people who posted on that thread, whereas you will see, that Titor is behind the posting by several pages, taking breaks of a few days or a week while people are wondering where he is at, and when he will post again. But Titor posts which page he is answering according to the old pages of the Art Bell BBS forum, usually which are shorter than posting page length at forums are today. Anomalies pages are way longer, as it only takes 3 pages to post the entire thread -- "I am from 2036", which at the Art Bell BBS forum - Post to Post - took entirely for the thread -- 33 pages whereas Titor left, and said so, and the posting continued on -- to 61 pages there. Original pictures were given as to the links to find those pictures. Original pictures from original people here (and the first pictures given by Titor): [url=http://www.anomalies.net/time_travel/john.html][color=#0000ff]http://www.anomalies.net/time_travel/john.html[/color][/url] unless you think that right clicking and saving a picture changes it, and all the original people who held these pictures to look at again, means that all of us people changed them to all the same whatever pictures you think. (We did not change these pictures, because all people giving the pictures all have the same pictures.) The original website that Titor posted the pictures on, can not be found in the web archive, as they have been looked for by other people, and it was not copied into the archive at that time, because again website change names, and the websites are gone! But the origina pictures that were cleaned up, by the original posters asking for a better version of the pictures at the end or during the original discussion can be found of the Art Bell BBS forum site -- archived: Original pictures shown but cleaned up by Titor: [url=http://web.archive.org/web/20010522234641/http://artbell.com/letters11.html][color=#0000ff]http://web.archive.org/web/20010522234641/http://artbell.com/letters11.html[/color][/url] and these are the cleaned-up version of the pictures by none other than John Titor -- himself, and sent by e-mail to Art Bell in 2001, by the end of March or early April, before JT claimed that he was leaving this worldline! First 5 pages of the Art Bell BBS Forum -- Post to Post in the Archive, but only the first 5 pages -- and the last page -- because the Art Bell BBS Forum ended in May of 2001, and the crawler did not archive the entire thread, and could not because like other websites that go down or change names, it was gone, and the web crawler program does not archive everything anyway. [url=http://web.archive.org/web/20010516223421/http://bbs.artbell.com/][color=#0000ff]http://web.archive.org/web/20010516223421/http://bbs.artbell.com/[/color][/url] [url=http://web.archive.org/web/20010603064617/bbs.artbell.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=25][color=#0000ff]http://web.archive.org/web/20010603064617/bbs.artbell.com/forumdisplay.php?forumid=25[/color][/url] Now for the "I am from 2036" thread at that time, and as it was back in 2001: [url=http://web.archive.org/web/20010413040119/bbs.artbell.com/showthread.php?threadid=1203][color=#0000ff]http://web.archive.org/web/20010413040119/bbs.artbell.com/showthread.php?threadid=1203[/color][/url] All threads at TTI forum, originally Xone.Net or whatever the links are in the thread of "I am from 2036" were updated at one time, still preserved by TTI after Pamela asked, were put back up, for a while, but some went by the wayside, and could not be restored. Try around page 35, if there is a page 35 there for threads. Or even page 40. I found them once, but since people start so many threads there, what was page 30 back a couple of years ago, probably is page 50 now, and probably is not there anymore. All of those threads still can be found at Anomalies, but finding them is another thing, but they are all there nonetheless! I don't think of looking for them, since MadIce website has those threads and they are much easier to find there, then looking through 32 pages of threads at Anomalies!!! A thread about the thread "Time Travel Paradoxes" at the original place: [url=http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=11227&Forum=CatSearch-1&Words=%22Time%20Travel%20Paradoxes%22&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=11224&Search=true#Post11227]http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforu...=true#Post11227[/url] Page 73 of the original forum: (Time travel discussion) The original thread "Time Travel Paradoxes" here but only the first post: [url=http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=8772&page=72&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&vc=1]http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforu...ed&sb=5&o=&vc=1[/url] page 69 of the original forum: The thread "Topic Limited to 11 Pages?" original thread: [url=http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=time_travel&Number=9237&page=68&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=1]http://www.timetravelinstitute.com/ttiforu...sb=5&o=&fpart=1[/url] Nope that is about it there: Now at Anomalies taken from the old Art Bell BBS forum and the threads (I just love looking through a 100 pages of thread topics!): page 31 or 32 at Anomalies: The original thread "I am from 2040" --- (Titor Nemesis!) [url=http://communities.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=000032]http://communities.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/b...ic;f=9;t=000032[/url] page 28 at Anomalies:: The original thread saved from TTI of "Time-travel Paradoxes" (and as you can see the first post is the same post listed at the TTI link!) [url=http://communities.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=000277]http://communities.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/b...ic;f=9;t=000277[/url] The original thread at Anomalies of "I am from 2036" (slightly edited and not really changed and I know, I still have it, and all the place mats of the original postings make it difficult to even work with, but a very few post were deleted that were not needed): [url=http://communities.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=000024]http://communities.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/b...ic;f=9;t=000024[/url] The entire original thread can still be read from Anomalies on the John Picture Page there, and can be downloaded to read at home: [url=http://www.anomalies.net/time_travel/john.html][color=#0000ff]http://www.anomalies.net/time_travel/john.html[/color][/url] ---- as it says there on that page! That is about it for the person posting as John Titor and earlier as TimeTravel_0, except for the "chats" and one is listed at the Anomalies page of John the Time Traveller, as well as the Faxes posted to Art Bell, that one can find also at Anomalies. The rest of the original threads are a discussion about what John Titor said, and do not include his postings, so I did not list those threads. The original format of Art Bell was not included, since those editing place mats (by the hundreds are in that thread) and had to be taken out, edited by the original Mary, since the board had posting rules, some of which people did not follow, so the posts were edited by the web administrator -- Mary and Ken at the Art Bell BBS forum back on the original thread. But the words are the same, even if misspelled, at the original time the posts were made. And really, you would not want the original format shown in the archive from the Art Bell BBS forum - Post to Post -- as they ended up looking in Microsoft's Office Word. (messy with hundreds of edited placemat pictures to take out!) Thanks to Pamela and the original posters who saved the material, and to Anomalies and TTI for perserving those original threads, even though websites change names, and if a link is broken, then an archive of the website could not be found in the archive as posted by MadIce, who did look for them, and the others can still be found! Afterall, a lot of people have read them, but it is also difficult to remember everything that was posted at the time --- like Raul said -- 422 posts -- but the thread is corrupted, but a saved copy of it at the time is given above! Oh, by the way -- Search Engines do not really work all that well, at least for me! [/QUOTE]
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