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<blockquote data-quote="JTFriend" data-source="post: 59018" data-attributes="member: 3457"><p>John describes himself in one of his posts as a "Christian Agnostic". He says people are more religious in his worldline in other posts because "pain brings people together". He mentions that in his worldline people have accepted Jesus and are people who"take religion seriously" by attending church. He provides other details of their renewed post apocalyptic faith such as keeping the Sabbath on Saturday rather than Sunday, changes to the 10 Commandments etc; but overall you get the feeling that although John has been through a lot (which he tells us he would not want to change, as though he would go through the whole ordeal all over again, which to me seems unthinkable), he has not really changed that much at all, due to still being an agnostic. He never mentions knowing the laws of karma such as an understanding that what "goes around comes around". He expresses almost no remorse for the death of 3 billion people and though he condemns murder, his actual real sense of truth and faith seem skewed.</p><p> </p><p>He says that the understanding of multiple worlds has "sank in to the collective", meaning that through technological change people on his worldline now have a new sense of religion which he explains is without good or evil, because every single possibility in the world must be taken in to account, and all possibilities ultimately "balance each other out":</p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Since every possible outcome, event and possibility is happening and will happen, then all good and all evil must balance out in the universe. After the reality of multiple worlds sank into our collective thought, the one basic change to all religious dogma is the concept that good and evil does not exist as an organized force in our lives, nor can it be used as a useful way to judge what God may think of a situation.</span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 15px"><span style="font-family: 'arial'">Good and evil are personal experiences that can only guide what we do as individuals and how we relate to others. This outlook also makes it impossible for me to judge any other person or event. Since we cannot see the entire universe as God sees it, we will never be gods or be capable of accurately judging anything outside of ourselves. My actions can only be judged as good and bad by me and my God.</span></span></p><p> </p><p>John was born with Jupiter in Aquarius which describes his advanced (Aquarius) yet limited (Aquarius/Saturn) sense of faith/relgious beliefs because Jupiter shows a person's capacity for faith and belief based on what they learned in past lives. His views show a personally oriented yet detatched (Aquarius) view of faith (Jupiter) with overtones of immorality and hypocrisy since his actions can only be judged by himself and his God and he never admits what has happened in his world is wrong and continues to focus on formalities such as what day to go to Church and whether the Commandments are really correct or not, which actually sounds a little like Judaism to me.</p><p> </p><p>This link explains:</p><p> </p><p>JUPITER IN AQUARIUS</p><p><a href="http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Graha/Guru/Guru_rashi_Kumbha.htm" target="_blank"><a href="Guru_rashi_Kumbha.htm">Guru in Kumbha</a>rashi = Jupiter in Aquarius - BP Lama Jyotisha Vedic </a></p><p>Astrology</p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 18px">Past-life carry-forward wisdom about networks: social, scientific, logical, electronic, cosmic, conceptual -- every variety and configuration of structured connectivity. Believes in <strong>material science </strong>. <strong>Atheistic or agnostic. Very little natural or pure faith in divine. Faith is intermediated by mentally produced truth constructs.</strong></span></p><p> </p><p>Jupiter is with Ketu, the planet that opens up the wormhole to the past. Ketu does not literally mean time travel to the past because in our worldline we haven't invented it yet; in our worldline it just describes an individual's past life.</p><p> </p><p>This Ketu is kinda interesting, very descriptive, and as I mentioned in another thread, I think Ketu in Aquarius <strong>read by itself</strong> tells a lot about John. It alludes to a certain detatchment (Ketu means detatched) from community group involvements, social change and technological advancements due to having already accomplished them in past lives. John describes a world that has both been torn apart (ie whole communities ruined due to war) and yet also a world that has a great deal of technological advacement:</p><p><a href="http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Graha/Ketu/Ketu_11Kumbha_rashi.htm" target="_blank">Ketu in Kumbha rashi = Ketu in Aquarius- BP Lama Jyotisha Vedic </a></p><p>Astrology</p><p> </p><p>KETU IN AQUARIUS:</p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Ketu-Kumbha has been traumatized in revolutionary political movements, perhaps an uprising against royalty, which creates in his a compulsory disengagement from political activism and group-think in all its visages. Ketu with swakshetra Shani is likely to produce extreme disengagement from earthly politics and distrust of human social movements, marginalizing the native and forcing the group-think scope into galactic or even cosmic range. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Ketu-Kumbha is a science-fiction orientation with a mind that wanders across the universe in search of a culture weird enough and 'safe' enough but also familiar enough to identity with. </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 15px">Might be a gifted sci-fi script writer or mathematician or computer programmer if Budha is strong. Otherwise, seeks anonymity and intellectual distance through cold logic. Could live in isolation and socialize exclusively via computer networks. Very detached person.</span></p><p> </p><p>In one post John answers a question about the sinking of Atlantis which is interesting, since the story is Atlantis sunk due to a nuclear conflict. Ketu in Aquarius could allude to having been traumatized in some type of previous life (Ketu) political situation (Aquarius) which explains how he would have signed off on a nuclear war in his worldline all over again without thinking twice (Ketu does not care!):</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"><span style="font-family: 'Arial'"><span style="font-size: 15px">I believe the explanation for the "great flood" stories originate with the changes that occurred near the Mediterranean at the end of the last ice age. Even on this worldline, there is a great deal of evidence to support the fact that sea levels did change radically in isolated areas worldwide</span>.</span></span></p><p> </p><p>According to this link, there is evidence that there is evidence that there has <strong>already been</strong> a nuclear war in North America:</p><p><a href="http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ancientatomicwar/esp_ancient_atomic_09.htm" target="_blank">Evidence of Ancient Nuclear War in North America </a></p><p> </p><p>Even if it is far fetched that John could be a reincarnated Atlantean, he does express the futility about "going through all the conversations all over again"-- a Ketu sense of resignation-- since you won't listen anyway. I know, he means because he has already been to our worldline and written online on the Internet before. But it is interesting considering what happened "all over again" in his worldline.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JTFriend, post: 59018, member: 3457"] John describes himself in one of his posts as a "Christian Agnostic". He says people are more religious in his worldline in other posts because "pain brings people together". He mentions that in his worldline people have accepted Jesus and are people who"take religion seriously" by attending church. He provides other details of their renewed post apocalyptic faith such as keeping the Sabbath on Saturday rather than Sunday, changes to the 10 Commandments etc; but overall you get the feeling that although John has been through a lot (which he tells us he would not want to change, as though he would go through the whole ordeal all over again, which to me seems unthinkable), he has not really changed that much at all, due to still being an agnostic. He never mentions knowing the laws of karma such as an understanding that what "goes around comes around". He expresses almost no remorse for the death of 3 billion people and though he condemns murder, his actual real sense of truth and faith seem skewed. He says that the understanding of multiple worlds has "sank in to the collective", meaning that through technological change people on his worldline now have a new sense of religion which he explains is without good or evil, because every single possibility in the world must be taken in to account, and all possibilities ultimately "balance each other out": [SIZE=4][FONT=arial]Since every possible outcome, event and possibility is happening and will happen, then all good and all evil must balance out in the universe. After the reality of multiple worlds sank into our collective thought, the one basic change to all religious dogma is the concept that good and evil does not exist as an organized force in our lives, nor can it be used as a useful way to judge what God may think of a situation.[/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=4][FONT=arial]Good and evil are personal experiences that can only guide what we do as individuals and how we relate to others. This outlook also makes it impossible for me to judge any other person or event. Since we cannot see the entire universe as God sees it, we will never be gods or be capable of accurately judging anything outside of ourselves. My actions can only be judged as good and bad by me and my God.[/FONT][/SIZE] John was born with Jupiter in Aquarius which describes his advanced (Aquarius) yet limited (Aquarius/Saturn) sense of faith/relgious beliefs because Jupiter shows a person's capacity for faith and belief based on what they learned in past lives. His views show a personally oriented yet detatched (Aquarius) view of faith (Jupiter) with overtones of immorality and hypocrisy since his actions can only be judged by himself and his God and he never admits what has happened in his world is wrong and continues to focus on formalities such as what day to go to Church and whether the Commandments are really correct or not, which actually sounds a little like Judaism to me. This link explains: JUPITER IN AQUARIUS [URL='http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Graha/Guru/Guru_rashi_Kumbha.htm']<a href="Guru_rashi_Kumbha.htm">Guru in Kumbha</a>rashi = Jupiter in Aquarius - BP Lama Jyotisha Vedic [/URL] Astrology [SIZE=5]Past-life carry-forward wisdom about networks: social, scientific, logical, electronic, cosmic, conceptual -- every variety and configuration of structured connectivity. Believes in [B]material science [/B]. [B]Atheistic or agnostic. Very little natural or pure faith in divine. Faith is intermediated by mentally produced truth constructs.[/B][/SIZE] Jupiter is with Ketu, the planet that opens up the wormhole to the past. Ketu does not literally mean time travel to the past because in our worldline we haven't invented it yet; in our worldline it just describes an individual's past life. This Ketu is kinda interesting, very descriptive, and as I mentioned in another thread, I think Ketu in Aquarius [B]read by itself[/B] tells a lot about John. It alludes to a certain detatchment (Ketu means detatched) from community group involvements, social change and technological advancements due to having already accomplished them in past lives. John describes a world that has both been torn apart (ie whole communities ruined due to war) and yet also a world that has a great deal of technological advacement: [URL='http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Graha/Ketu/Ketu_11Kumbha_rashi.htm']Ketu in Kumbha rashi = Ketu in Aquarius- BP Lama Jyotisha Vedic [/URL] Astrology KETU IN AQUARIUS: [SIZE=4]Ketu-Kumbha has been traumatized in revolutionary political movements, perhaps an uprising against royalty, which creates in his a compulsory disengagement from political activism and group-think in all its visages. Ketu with swakshetra Shani is likely to produce extreme disengagement from earthly politics and distrust of human social movements, marginalizing the native and forcing the group-think scope into galactic or even cosmic range. [/SIZE] [SIZE=4]Ketu-Kumbha is a science-fiction orientation with a mind that wanders across the universe in search of a culture weird enough and 'safe' enough but also familiar enough to identity with. [/SIZE] [SIZE=4]Might be a gifted sci-fi script writer or mathematician or computer programmer if Budha is strong. Otherwise, seeks anonymity and intellectual distance through cold logic. Could live in isolation and socialize exclusively via computer networks. Very detached person.[/SIZE] In one post John answers a question about the sinking of Atlantis which is interesting, since the story is Atlantis sunk due to a nuclear conflict. Ketu in Aquarius could allude to having been traumatized in some type of previous life (Ketu) political situation (Aquarius) which explains how he would have signed off on a nuclear war in his worldline all over again without thinking twice (Ketu does not care!): [SIZE=2][FONT=Arial][SIZE=4]I believe the explanation for the "great flood" stories originate with the changes that occurred near the Mediterranean at the end of the last ice age. Even on this worldline, there is a great deal of evidence to support the fact that sea levels did change radically in isolated areas worldwide[/SIZE].[/FONT][/SIZE] According to this link, there is evidence that there is evidence that there has [B]already been[/B] a nuclear war in North America: [URL='http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ancientatomicwar/esp_ancient_atomic_09.htm']Evidence of Ancient Nuclear War in North America [/URL] Even if it is far fetched that John could be a reincarnated Atlantean, he does express the futility about "going through all the conversations all over again"-- a Ketu sense of resignation-- since you won't listen anyway. I know, he means because he has already been to our worldline and written online on the Internet before. But it is interesting considering what happened "all over again" in his worldline. [/QUOTE]
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