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John Titor's Time Machine and his Personal Online Postings

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    Opmmur Time Travel Professor Premium

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    John Titor's Time Machine and his Personal Online Postings

    Remember to check all http links below of the Titor's personal postings.

    How would you introduce yourself if you were a time traveler? John Titor began with his mission and machine, straight up.

    At first you think "sure, sure" but then a close look at the design suggests it just might be possible if the things some physicists believe about the relationships between time and gravity in the vicinity of singularities are true.

    posted June 21, 2001 19:38
    at http//communities.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=9&t=000024
    John Titor
    Registered: Jan 2001
    Posts: 78
    Greetings. I am a time traveler from the year 2036. I am on my way home after getting an IBM 5100 computer system from the year 1975.
    My "time" machine is a stationary mass, temporal displacement unit manufactured by General Electric. The unit is powered by two, top-spin, dual-positive singularities that produce a standard, off-set Tipler sinusoid.
    I will be happy to post pictures of the unit.

    John provided several graphic images to corroborate his statements, which are reproduced below.

    Most are from http//www.anomalies.net/time_traveler/john.html

    Note 2/20/04:

    Due to heavy traffic to this page, increasing bandwidth costs have compelled me to trim and shrink most of the graphics, but they have not been otherwise modified and they can be found elsewhere if you really want to see the originals. If there is sufficient demand (email me) I'll make them available to you at a nominal cost to help cover my bandwidth charges.

    While none of the individual images is so compelling as to establish Titor's veracity beyond a doubt, together they do make a compelling argument that the possibility should be considered. Otherwise he went to an awful lot of trouble to pull off a hoax (which remains a possibility) but for what purpose? There was never any request for money or even belief, and the guy is gone now.

    Some of these images would be easier to fake than others; the photographs would have required building a model. The technical drawings took somebody a long time to make. Above all there's the time travel nuts and bolts that Titor presents in the context of a theory that actually makes sense. That's the most amazing part about the story to me, good theory having testable linchpins that nobody ever conceived before (Tipler came close but his design was so impractical as to be impossible).

    Because many physicists fully expect micro-singularities to be created at CERN soon, you'd think the idea of using the things to create a time machine would have been floated before. It's possible the idea may have been passed around via beers and napkins for a long time but never published, like the Strategic Defense Initiative (Star Wars) was before Reagan announced it like it was his own idea. If the idea had already occurred to some people but was supposed to be secret (i.e. Manhattan Project), maybe the real reason for Titor's story was to bring it into the sunshine.

    Whatever the case may be (we may never know) there's no denying Titor was the first to publicly put forth this almost fully-formed theory, and that puts him at least as high or higher than Tipler on the genius scale if he's a fraud, or else it means he's a smart, well-trained soldier if he's genuine.


    Fig. 1 above: Scan from the technical manual. Some of the other graphics more fully refer to the device as a General Electric Army Model C204 Gravity Distortion Time Displacement Unit.

    Fig. 2 above: Scan from the technical manual. Looks like it might be a scan from a photocopy of a printed photograph, which would reproduce pretty terribly like this.


    Fig. 3 above: Scan from the technical manual. This should be compared with Fig. 4 below, which is presumably a scan from a different page, which has some slight differences.

    They each show a diagram of the field shapes and time vectors produced by the unit during operation.


    Fig. 4 above: Scan from the technical manual. Notice the three event horizon labels at the bottom are mislabeled 11, 12, and 13, where in the page above they are labeled 10, 11, 12 and correspond to the legend.

    Note that this graphic includes the dimensions of 6 (vertical safe distance 6 meters), 7 (mass offset 5 meters), 8 (rear mass distribution 8 meters), and 9 (forward mass distribution 11 meters).

    Interpretation of Fig. 4 legend above

    1 Dual singularities in kerr field

    2 Output of negative time field

    3 Output of null time field

    4 Output of positive time field

    5 X-ray venting cone

    6 Vertical safe distance (6 meters)
    7 Mass offset (5 meters)

    8 Rear mass dist. (8 meters)

    9 Forward mass dist. (11 meters)

    10 Negative time event horizon

    11 Null time event horizon

    12 Positive time event horizon


    Fig. 5 above: Scan from the technical manual. Unfortunately some of the legend is unreadable. Below the graphic I have recreated what I believe the text to read.

    Interpretation of Fig. 5 legend above

    1 Singularity drive housing

    2 Singularity magnetic field coil

    3 Magnetic field generator/regulator

    4 Electron mass injector manifold

    5 Electron regulator

    6 Electron (generator?)
    7 Singularity (status sensor?)

    8 Singularity cooling housing

    9 Singularity cooling pump

    10 Singularity cooling supply

    11 Gravity sensor unit

    12 Battery supply

    posted 01-29-2001 01:37 PM
    at http//communities.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=9&t=000024

    John Titor
    Registered: Jan 2001
    Posts: 78

    Although the documents posted were printed from a computer printer, is it really that hard to believe that manual typing is just a bit more common in thirty years? After the war, many things like manual printing machines, bicycles, sailboats and hand tools were valued a great deal. I have noticed more people in California are installing wood burning stoves.

    I realize my claims are a bit ridiculous but my intent is not really to be believed. However, if I had an opportunity to talk to a time traveler, I might ask questions like: How exactly does the singularity sensor measure the expansion of the inner event horizon or why does the reality of multiple worlds support the religious dogma that there are no good or bad people just good and bad decisions or what were the political motivations that changed the U.S. Constitution?


    Fig. 6 above: Scan from the technical manual. Shows layout of major external components and defines the Main and Steering singularities. Notice they are located fore and aft of the time distortion field, which direction is delineated by the prominent black and yellow tape (here black and white).

    posted 14 October 2000
    at http//www.anomalies.net/time_traveler/irc.html
    TimeTravel_0 : As it turns out...
    TimeTravel_0 : If you encounter a black hole that is spinning and has an electrified field, you will not be killed passing through its massive gravitational fields.
    TimeTravel_0 : regretting asking yet>
    Yareisa : no
    TimeTravel_0 : Ok
    wyrmkin_37 : no
    Yareisa : I'm hooked
    TimeTravel_0 : In about a year...
    G° : is this the omeg point theory?
    G° : omega?
    TimeTravel_0 : CERN will discover some very odd things as a result of their high energy experiments.
    TimeTravel_0 : in about a year.
    TimeTravel_0 : from your point of view.
    wyrmkin_37 : cern?
    TimeTravel_0 : in Geneva.
    Yareisa : particle accelerator
    wyrmkin_37 : oh
    TimeTravel_0 : They will accidentally create microsingularities.
    G° : makes things go round and hit each other...
    TimeTravel_0 : Which will evaporate very quickly.
    wyrmkin_37 : one in texas?
    TimeTravel_0 : and create a massive amount of X-ray and Gamma rays.
    TimeTravel_0 : It will puzzle them for a while.
    TimeTravel_0 : Until they figure out how to add and electrical charge and capture these strange odd and massive particles in a magnetic field.
    wyrmkin_37 : they shoot electrons at the speed of light.......see what they bust up into
    TimeTravel_0 : Yes.
    G° : still with you...
    wyrmkin_37 : quarks
    TimeTravel_0 : If you bombard a singularity with electrons...
    TimeTravel_0 : you can alter the size of its event horizon.
    TimeTravel_0 : and thus its gravitational field.
    TimeTravel_0 : By overlapping these fields from two singularities...
    TimeTravel_0 : you can travel forward and backward through time.
    TimeTravel_0 : Its actually quite simple.
    wyrmkin_37 : I follow now
    TimeTravel_0 : That's not the hard part.
    G° : didn't tipler say there was no event horizon?
    TimeTravel_0 : No... he said it was possible to approach a massive gravitational field from certain angles and not get squished.
    G° : oh, sorry
    wyrmkin_37 : lol
    TimeTravel_0 : Actually...I'm not really a physicist.
    G° : but you know all about this stuff... is that why you were picked?
    TimeTravel_0 : I specialize in 20th century history and my grandfather builds computers.
    wyrmkin_37 : what base?
    TimeTravel_0 : Hmmm....you drive a car and know how to change the oil don't you?
    TimeTravel_0 : I am based in Tampa Fl.
    G° : actually, only just.. LOL
    wyrmkin_37 : chas, afb
    TimeTravel_0 : McDill
    wyrmkin_37 : kewl
    G° : sorry?
    G° : in english?
    wyrmkin_37 : zoomies
    Yareisa : that's english?!
    G° : you airforce wyrm?
    wyrmkin_37 : yes
    G° : your not working on a time machine are you?
    G° : come here for guidance...
    wyrmkin_37 : no just came in for chat
    TimeTravel_0 : Altering gravity is not the hard part.
    G° : LOL
    Yareisa : go on...
    TimeTravel_0 : Detecting gravity is the hard part.
    TimeTravel_0 : I will tell you a little story.
    TimeTravel_0 : When time travel was invented.
    TimeTravel_0 : They built prototypes that would go back in time for a split second and then return.
    TimeTravel_0 : They had sensors and cameras on them.
    TimeTravel_0 : ...and they never returned.
    G° : and forwards as well? how about a single jump forwards?
    TimeTravel_0 : It was later discovered that the machines were ending up about 15 miles away and 3000 feet in the air.
    TimeTravel_0 : feet
    G° : doh!
    TimeTravel_0 : The Earth was rotating away from them.
    wyrmkin_37 : synchronization please
    TimeTravel_0 : A system had to be invented that would "hold" the machine to the Earth.
    TimeTravel_0 : Its called VGL.
    TimeTravel_0 : Its based on very sensitive clocks and gravity sensors.
    TimeTravel_0 : It stops the time distortion machine if radical changes in gravity are detected.
    wyrmkin_37 : mechanical or electronic clocks
    TimeTravel_0 : You wouldn't want to end up inside a mountain or under water...would you?
    TimeTravel_0 : Cesium.
    wyrmkin_37 : oh
    G° : isn't all this classified? surely your supposed to keep it secret whilst in the past?
    TimeTravel_0 : LOL!!!
    TimeTravel_0 : I know you think I'm nuts...come on.
    TimeTravel_0 : Who would believe me?
    G° : just asking?
    TimeTravel_0 : It my best defense.
    wyrmkin_37 : isn't celsium a higher class of quartz? don't know
    G° : but we don't have long to find out if you are or not
    TimeTravel_0 : Besides...do you know how big a hole 2 singularities make when their magnetic filed collapses?
    G° : won't be long before CERN (?) make the discovery
    TimeTravel_0 : That's right.
    G° : no
    TimeTravel_0 : Welll....either do I. But I don't want to know.

    posted 01-29-2001 01:37 PM
    at http//communities.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=9&t=000024

    John Titor
    Registered: Jan 2001
    Posts: 78

    By using two micro-singularities in close proximity to each other, it is possible to create, manipulate and alter the Kerr fields to create a Tipler gravity sinusoid.

    This field can be adjusted, rotated and moved in order to simulate the movement of mass through a donut-shaped singularity and into an alternate world line. Thus, safe time travel.


    Fig. 7 above: Detailed device schematic, presumably another scan from the technical manual but that is uncertain. Unfortunately the legend is missing for all the numbered labels, or we could go a lot farther in analyzing the circuitry.


    Fig. 8 above: Appears to be a scan of a black and white photo of the device. Not from http://www.anomalies.net/time_traveler/john.html however, but from Pamela.


    Fig. 9 above: Photo of the unit in the car (Corvette). The device appears to have been moved to the passenger's side. If it weighs 500 pounds as John said, moving it would be some feat.


    Fig. 10 above: Bent laser light.

    Description purportedly from John.
    This is a picture taken in the fall of 2035 during my training. It shows my instructor beaming a handheld laser outside the vehicle during operation. The beam is being bent by the gravitational field produced outside the vehicle by the distortion unit. The beam is visible through smoke that is coming from his cigar.


    Fig. 11 above: Photo of the unit in a vehicle. This appears to not be a Corvette, John mentioned somewhere that he swapped the Corvette for a truck. That looks like a shotgun in the front center.

    Fig. 12 above: A second photo of the unit in the truck. Paint colors match, the padded cushion in the foreground appears to be the same as in Fig. 11, and there is the same white box to the left of the unit in both photos.


    Fig. 13 above: Third photo of the unit in the truck. The several objects in the foreground appear to have not been moved, but the light is different as if this photo were taken at a different time of day than Fig 12. There is a red glow reflecting off the instruction label which could possibly be an indicator lamp. Could the unit be turned on?

    Possibly it's in some kind of testing or maintenance mode or maybe it's reflecting light from outside the vehicle. The glow appears to be coming from a button labelled 'emergency disconnect' (#5) in Fig. 6. But it could also be coming from the 'emergency view screen' (#4) shown in Fig. 6 if that is perhaps a red LED display.

    Fig. 14 above: John's unit insignia. Supposedly the design is based on the field patterns of the time distortion device, reminiscent of Figs 3 and 4 above. It's probably unwise to try to infer too much from it since it's just a logo design.

    Unknown original URL, still searching for original text, this comes from a compilation that was downloaded from http//survival.anomalies.net/timetravel/TimeTravelBoards.zip which was posted there by Rick Donaldson, an Anomalies Network Moderator who provided a link to it at http://www.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=9&t=000019&p= on September 25, 2001 14:28

    Member posted 05 November 2000 03:29

    Questions for timetravel_0 with permission to post.

    by the way can you tell me what it feels like to time travel? when you are in the process of doing it what does it feel like and what do you see and hear. you made mention that you had to get use to the fields. Do you see a bright flash of light?

    Interesting first question.

    The unit has a ramp up time after the destination coordinates are fed into the computers. An audible alarm and a small light start a short countdown at which point you should be secured in a seat. The gravity field generated by the unit overtakes you very quickly. You feel a tug toward the unit similar to rising quickly in an elevator and it continues to rise based on the power setting the unit is working under. At 100% power, the constant pull of gravity can be as high as 2 Gs or more depending on how close you are to the unit. There are no serious side effects but I try to avoid eating before a flight.

    No bright flash of light is seen. Outside, the vehicle appears to accelerate as the light is bent around it. We have to wear sunglasses or close our eyes as this happens due to a short burst of ultraviolet radiation. Personally I think it looks like your driving under a rainbow. After that, it appears to fade to black and remains totally black until the unit is turned off. We are advised to keep the windows closed as a great deal of heat builds up outside the car.

    The gravity field also traps a small air pocket around the car that acts as your only O2 supply unless you bring compressed air with you. This pocket will only last for a short period and a carbon sensor tells us when it's too dangerous. The C204 unit is accurate from 50 to 60 years a jump and travels at about 10 years an hour at 100% power.

    You do hear a slight hum as the unit operates and when the power changes or the unit turns off. There is a great deal of electrical crackling noise from static electricity.

    Mathematical Background

    The Lense-Thirring Effect
    The Lense-Thirring Effect (AKA "rotational frame dragging") was derived by Joseph Lense and Hans Thirring in 1918 from Einstein's theory of general relativity which predicts that a massive rotating body will drag and distort spacetime around itself.

    There is an excellent Wikipedia article on frame dragging at Frame-dragging - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia which discusses this effect and provides the Kerr equations for those interested in the mathematical basis for the operation of John Titor's gravity distortion time displacement unit.

    That article uses this image to illustrate,

    "The two surfaces on which the Kerr metric appears to have singularities; the inner surface is the spherical event horizon, whereas the outer surface is an oblate spheroid. The ergosphere lies between these two surfaces; within this volume, the purely temporal component gtt is negative, i.e., acts like a purely spatial metric component. Consequently, particles within this ergosphere must co-rotate with the inner mass, if they are to retain their time-like character."

    See the article for the full mathematical treatment.


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    Prof..All this info is on the internet...
    A very quick search soon brought up sales results on the GE 204 Army gravity distortion time displacement unit,,
    If the machine actually did work, every government in the world would never allow it to be sold, and neither would any diagrams of it be allowed either....Simple Common Sense,,, iam sorry to say Prof, but this is a complete hoax..

    Ive no idea what it is supposed to actually do, but it certainly aint a working time machine that can physically transport anybody to different time zones.
    I challenge anybody on here to buy one from Amazon or anywhere and show video evidence of it actually working.:XD:
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