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<blockquote data-quote="Samstwitch" data-source="post: 52138" data-attributes="member: 2770"><p>I don't know what Ashwin experienced. All I can do is pick apart his story and present what evidence I find or know about and give my theories. This is my assessment.</p><p> </p><p>Since Ashwin is talking about a plural 'Elohim', he is referring to "gods" (lower case). According to the Hebrew Bible, the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim#Hebrew_Bible" target="_blank">Elohim</a>, plural, would not be the one true God. If he is speaking of Elohim plural, then he met 'gods' or <em>false gods, </em>because<em> there is only ONE TRUE GOD</em>.</p><p> </p><p>Ashwin speaks of a beautiful man that he saw. If this man had been Jesus, Ashwin should have said so. Jesus always makes Himself known when He appears to someone. However, Ashwin does not say anything about this man being Jesus. And Jesus <em>never</em> causes anyone to become possessed inorder to see Him, nor would God. Jesus delivered people from possession. The question is: <em>What entity was possessing Ashwin?</em></p><p> </p><p>The story about seeing the earth as it was in the beginning sounds like the Biblical description. The things Ashwin says about warnings, etc. sound similar to messages that abductees get from extraterrestrials. However, Ashwin's account mentions nothing about ET's or being abducted. But he does talk about being posssessed. First he gets possessed by an entity...then he has an OBE (Out-of-the-Body Experience).</p><p> </p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">TRANSCRIPT OF EXCERPTS: "Physically I felt as if another entity had taken control of me. It was completely out </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">of my control, and it was strangely enough at the time it was not something that I </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">feared. But kind of like...there was a person who was always there, always with me, I </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">just didn't know about it until it came in my body. And when this person came into my </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">body, I stood up, I walked out, and I felt completely peaceful. I wasn't in fear, I </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">wasn't scared of anything. I was at peace. I went in my car and drove to Laguna Beach. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">"This was precisely at 1:11, so it would be past 1 a.m. and 11 minutes when this event </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">occurred. The initial event. Not the event of the being in Laguna Beach. That was </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">several minutes later. But the event of my body connecting to my original consciousness </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">port...as now later I learned what it was.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">"I could not control what was happening, even though I could function perfectly, my </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">subliminal mind could still drive, I could still function, I could still look like a </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">normal person, still have my basic functioning capabilities set.</span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">"I walked to the sands of Laguna Beach...this whole time I was in this very very strange </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">set of mind that I had never been before. As I mentioned earlier, I sincerely felt like </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">another entity had taken control of my body, but I wasn't in fear, I wasn't scared, and </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">the entity didn't feel foreign. I wasn't scared of what's happening to me. As soon as </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">that event occurred, I felt that a different part of me that was always there ignited. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">"So it's very difficult experience to explain, because when I tried to explain this to </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">people, they automatically assumed that it might have been a demon...demonic possession, </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">which it certainly was not, because demonic possessions are hostile. My experience was </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">not hostile. </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">"It was strange, because it was the first time anything like this ever </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">occurred to me...I knew nothing at the time about the Elohim. I knew nothing at the time </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">about anything supernatural, about anything paranormal, about any encounters, about any </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">experience about UFO about ufology. I knew nothing about that...about the Andromedans, I </span></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><span style="color: #ffcc00">knew nothing. All of this knowledge about the Elohim was given to me on this night."</span></p><p></p><p>Then he sees a red bright light in a circular field 20 yards up into the sky, that was</p><p>zooming fast and then zooming slow, and aligning directly with his head. Then he experienced an OBE.</p><p> </p><p>Was this a connection with Jesus Christ? I don't think so, because the beautiful man did not identify himself. (Satan can disguise himself as an Angel of light.)</p><p> </p><p>Was it an alien abduction? It could have been. Extraterrestrials are known to take control of humans and mask their abductions with false memories. It could be that this man was abducted by ET's, and his memories are of a masked experience that was Jesus-like, but in reality he could have actually been abducted and had the memory of this experience implanted in his mind.</p><p> </p><p>These are just some possibilities. Like I said, I don't know what happened to him. We can only speculate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Samstwitch, post: 52138, member: 2770"] I don't know what Ashwin experienced. All I can do is pick apart his story and present what evidence I find or know about and give my theories. This is my assessment. Since Ashwin is talking about a plural 'Elohim', he is referring to "gods" (lower case). According to the Hebrew Bible, the [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elohim#Hebrew_Bible']Elohim[/URL], plural, would not be the one true God. If he is speaking of Elohim plural, then he met 'gods' or [I]false gods, [/I]because[I] there is only ONE TRUE GOD[/I]. Ashwin speaks of a beautiful man that he saw. If this man had been Jesus, Ashwin should have said so. Jesus always makes Himself known when He appears to someone. However, Ashwin does not say anything about this man being Jesus. And Jesus [I]never[/I] causes anyone to become possessed inorder to see Him, nor would God. Jesus delivered people from possession. The question is: [I]What entity was possessing Ashwin?[/I] The story about seeing the earth as it was in the beginning sounds like the Biblical description. The things Ashwin says about warnings, etc. sound similar to messages that abductees get from extraterrestrials. However, Ashwin's account mentions nothing about ET's or being abducted. But he does talk about being posssessed. First he gets possessed by an entity...then he has an OBE (Out-of-the-Body Experience). [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]TRANSCRIPT OF EXCERPTS: "Physically I felt as if another entity had taken control of me. It was completely out [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]of my control, and it was strangely enough at the time it was not something that I [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]feared. But kind of like...there was a person who was always there, always with me, I [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]just didn't know about it until it came in my body. And when this person came into my [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]body, I stood up, I walked out, and I felt completely peaceful. I wasn't in fear, I [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]wasn't scared of anything. I was at peace. I went in my car and drove to Laguna Beach. [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1] [/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]"This was precisely at 1:11, so it would be past 1 a.m. and 11 minutes when this event [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]occurred. The initial event. Not the event of the being in Laguna Beach. That was [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]several minutes later. But the event of my body connecting to my original consciousness [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]port...as now later I learned what it was.[/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1] [/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]"I could not control what was happening, even though I could function perfectly, my [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]subliminal mind could still drive, I could still function, I could still look like a [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]normal person, still have my basic functioning capabilities set.[/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1] [/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]"I walked to the sands of Laguna Beach...this whole time I was in this very very strange [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]set of mind that I had never been before. As I mentioned earlier, I sincerely felt like [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]another entity had taken control of my body, but I wasn't in fear, I wasn't scared, and [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]the entity didn't feel foreign. I wasn't scared of what's happening to me. As soon as [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]that event occurred, I felt that a different part of me that was always there ignited. [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1] [/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]"So it's very difficult experience to explain, because when I tried to explain this to [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]people, they automatically assumed that it might have been a demon...demonic possession, [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]which it certainly was not, because demonic possessions are hostile. My experience was [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]not hostile. [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1] [/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]"It was strange, because it was the first time anything like this ever [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]occurred to me...I knew nothing at the time about the Elohim. I knew nothing at the time [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]about anything supernatural, about anything paranormal, about any encounters, about any [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]experience about UFO about ufology. I knew nothing about that...about the Andromedans, I [/COLOR][/INDENT] [INDENT=1][COLOR=#ffcc00]knew nothing. All of this knowledge about the Elohim was given to me on this night."[/COLOR][/INDENT] Then he sees a red bright light in a circular field 20 yards up into the sky, that was zooming fast and then zooming slow, and aligning directly with his head. Then he experienced an OBE. Was this a connection with Jesus Christ? I don't think so, because the beautiful man did not identify himself. (Satan can disguise himself as an Angel of light.) Was it an alien abduction? It could have been. Extraterrestrials are known to take control of humans and mask their abductions with false memories. It could be that this man was abducted by ET's, and his memories are of a masked experience that was Jesus-like, but in reality he could have actually been abducted and had the memory of this experience implanted in his mind. These are just some possibilities. Like I said, I don't know what happened to him. We can only speculate. [/QUOTE]
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