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<blockquote data-quote="Einstein" data-source="post: 114542" data-attributes="member: 288"><p>There is a little trick with the GPS satellites that you might not be aware. Ground stations continually update the satellite clocks. So the drift error on the ground never goes beyond a millimeter for military applications. I think it's accurate to a meter for civilian use. The satellite clocks are atomic decay rate based. I just think the time dilation has to do with atomic decay rates. Not with time itself. </p><p></p><p>The problem with your setup is there is no clock that connects to the overall time flow. Clocks use some basic force to setup an oscillator. The oscillator then becomes the time base for the clock. If something interferes with the basic operation of the oscillator then the clock ceases to be accurate. With atomic clocks it happens to be the gravitational or inertial weight states that exist that determine the decay rate. With quartz based clocks, an electric field or an acceleration will alter the oscillation frequency of the quartz crystal. With mechanical spring based oscillators, an externally applied vibrating force will interfere with the spring. I do know a tank circuit uses a coil and a capacitor. I don't see anybody using that for clock oscillators. Of course they aren't that accurate anyway. Always drifting off frequency.</p><p></p><p>So first someone has to build a clock that can adjust for all these oscillator errors. It will probably be a device that incorporates all the different types of oscillators that there are and then uses a computer to analyze all the data.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Einstein, post: 114542, member: 288"] There is a little trick with the GPS satellites that you might not be aware. Ground stations continually update the satellite clocks. So the drift error on the ground never goes beyond a millimeter for military applications. I think it's accurate to a meter for civilian use. The satellite clocks are atomic decay rate based. I just think the time dilation has to do with atomic decay rates. Not with time itself. The problem with your setup is there is no clock that connects to the overall time flow. Clocks use some basic force to setup an oscillator. The oscillator then becomes the time base for the clock. If something interferes with the basic operation of the oscillator then the clock ceases to be accurate. With atomic clocks it happens to be the gravitational or inertial weight states that exist that determine the decay rate. With quartz based clocks, an electric field or an acceleration will alter the oscillation frequency of the quartz crystal. With mechanical spring based oscillators, an externally applied vibrating force will interfere with the spring. I do know a tank circuit uses a coil and a capacitor. I don't see anybody using that for clock oscillators. Of course they aren't that accurate anyway. Always drifting off frequency. So first someone has to build a clock that can adjust for all these oscillator errors. It will probably be a device that incorporates all the different types of oscillators that there are and then uses a computer to analyze all the data. [/QUOTE]
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