Next Presidential Election & Dissolution of the Union

Suraska

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For weeks now I have been having the same dream. I got into the Federal Building in the town I live and am called into a room. In the room I am told to handover my US Passport along with my other US issued documents. In exchange I receive a red armband that I must never be outside without from now on. There is a calendar mounted on the wall with a year(2018 or 19) clearly visible, but the language is unreadable to me ie it's NOT English. Suddenly I am out of the room and hovering over a huge world map. A voice said, "You took sovereignty for granted. No more. As you once belonged to Britain you belong again to the Eastern Beasts. As they speak and live you will too." The Eastern Beasts were a united Russia and China. Something went VERY WRONG during the 2016 Presidential Elections. I was shown people of all races rioting in the street, a surprise coup d'etat where people literally broke down the doors of Congress, and took the law into their own hands executing top military personnel and politicians. Russia or China took advantage of our state of completely anarchy and installed a puppet government much like in Ukraine at present. The USA was no more. It was carved up, families forever separated, Stars and Stripes burned, and English forbidden. The saddest part of all was the younger generations(30>)having never known the true American Dream or Freedom welcomed the occupation, because they saw no reason to defend this land anymore.
 
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Suraska

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Last night I was treated to a different version of the vision I posted above. Amnesty was the main catalyst behind the end of America. In the 9th hour, late 2014-early 2015,the controversial measure was passed. US Citizens and by that I mean the descendants of colonizers,slaves,natives, and the few whose parents/grandparents bothered to go the legal route lost all faith in the US Government and began to look to their respective states to protect and keep them out of the poor house. As we all know states lost their sovereignty over 100 years ago and there was not much the state government could do,so the residents demanded the state government get them out of the union. By the time the 2016 election came around none of the US Citizens wanted to vote,but the amnestied former illegals flocked to the polls.Election night was more like Revolution night. As soon as the victor was announced(didn't see who,but citizens weren't happy either way) peopl poured into the rioting in outrage. Requests or rather déclarations for secessions, because no one was taking orders from the central government anymore, came one right after another.
 

Zahzthename

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You sure about that date? If Ferguson isn't snuffed out VERY SOON then your vision could easily be 2014 or 2015.
 

walt willis

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You have some great insight for a good book of "What-If's".

I have read all four of Matt Bracken's books telling of an American demise.

To lose this nations Bill of Rights would be a great tragedy.

If the demographics continue to drift towards the left headed folks, we may live to see the end of America.

It may be time to buy a sailboat and bug out for good!

Strategic relocation to another country may be in order if you want to survive the coming collapse.

I'll keep the lights on for you when it is safe to return and the dust settles.
 

TnWatchdog

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I suspect that if nothing happens in 2015 the elections may change that or the circumstances that influence the elections will affect all of us. Your dream reminds me of the TV mini-series Amerika. It was very well done and was about, at the time, a Soviet takeover...tanks in the street.
 
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walt willis

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Got an email today that said TX, MT, and WY are starting to distance themselves from the union and that there are about twice that number that are talking about doing the same.

This move reminds me of another time in our history just before the civil war began.

If this trend continues we may see the next civil war within our lifetime.

At the start of the civil war most folks thought that in would just be a one battle event.

The attitude of the general dumb public is the same today.

Once a war starts it will not end until there has been much blood spilled.

When will we ever learn?
 

walt willis

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This article is the first of a two part series which details the coming war. This war will not be a simple war of occupation such as what we saw in Iran and presently in Afghanistan. This war will be utterly devastating and has the potential to escalate into a conflict befitting the over-used term, “Armageddon”.
Part one of this series will present what boxing fans call, “the tale of tape”. The “tale of the tape” entails identifying the combatants, their respective sides as well as the relative strengths of the participants and their military forces.
The Relative Strengths of Each Side
The coming war will largely feature what pundits call the BRIC nations and the USA and her allies. Each side of this coming conflict possesses widely divergent military strengths, weaknesses and strategies.
The US Is Dependent On a Devastating First Strike Attack
The United States and her allies have a decided advantage of quick strike, long range battlefield capabilities because of superior aircraft and carrier strike capabilities. The BRIC nations have an advantage with manpower, rocket propelled weapons and tanks. The USA and her allies cannot win a sustained battlefield campaign because of the attrition factor.
The Chinese have demonstrated the ability to negate the United States Navy’s technological advantage through the use of killer satellites. Therefore, the entire US strategy is predicated on a first strike before the Chinese can destroy the majority of the eyes and ears of the US military, namely, its superior satellite capabilities in which the US forces can quickly locate and destroy the enemy with its smart weapons before the enemy knows what hit them.
Nuclear Submarines Are the “X Factor”

America’s “X Factor”.

The BRICS cannot run or hide from this devastating weapon.
Nuclear submarines are often looked at as the great equalizer. No matter who is winning on the ground, in the air and on the surface of the oceans, the submarine force has the capability to reign down unimaginable destruction upon their enemy. In the case of submarines, the USA and her allies are matched by their BRIC counterparts. Most subs carry eight nuclear missiles, each capable of destroying a major city. The USA presumably has superior evasive techniques and therefore, would presumably survive sub-killer strategies with greater frequency that their BRIC adversaries. Therefore, the BRIC nations might win every land battle, however, the victorious BRIC nations would not have many of its cities left to return to in the case of a nuclear war. The US submarines are, in effect, a formidable doomsday weapon.
The Trigger Event

Devastating first strike capability.

Command and Control of America’s first strike capability.
For the United States and her allies to win a conventional war, a quick strike, surprise engagement is critical to the success of these forces. The BRICS would have an advantage in a longer prolonged conflict.This is particularly true when one considers that if time permitted, the Chinese have bragged that they could put 100 million men on a battlefield. Following the teachings of Sun Tsu in the famous book, The Art of War, it is critical that the BRIC nations be brought to the battlefield of choice by the USA for a quick and decisive engagement.
From a conventional warfare standpoint, the engagement is likely to be naval and involve aircraft. This plays to the advantage to the USA, whose superior long range strike capability is enhanced by their superior aircraft carriers.The USA forces would likely engage in a distracting land engagement first to hold and occupy the maximum number of the BRIC forces. The land strike, a first strike, will be directed at Syria. Given the present crisis, the Russians would have to decide on choosing between protecting its eastern border with the NATO forces poised to attack, or launching an offensive directed at protecting Syria.
The Russians will choose self-defense. The timing of the American invasion of Syria will take place when a sufficient number of American naval vessels are present in the Black Sea to checkmate the Russia military build up in Crimea which would serve as a staging area for military action in Syria. At the end of the day, once a large contingent of the American navy has moved into position off of the Baltic states, Russia will be powerless to prevent an US takeover of Syria. The path and progress of the CIA force ,ISIS, as it creates more designed havoc in Syria, will provide the impetus for US forces to enter Syria, thus provoking a Russian and a BRIC nation unified response.
Conventional wisdom states that once the US occupies Syria, Russia will be powerless to intervene on behalf of America’s next target, Iran because the US medium range missile batteries will prevent the Russian army from moving south into the region. With Russia out of the way, Iran will capitulate and stop selling oil for gold to the BRIC nations and the Petrodollar will be preserved. Iran will agree to the control of their oil fields by the US to avoid an invasion. They will capitulate because nobody will come to their rescue. At least that is what the US is hoping for. In part two, I will present a more likely scenario.
What about India and China? Won’t they move to protect Iran and thus, erode the Petrodollar? Not exactly, as China and India will have their hands full. The naval strike that I speak of will be directed at China. Before the commencement of hostilities, China will be given a short time to stand down or face destruction by the US submarines and the long range capabilities of US carriers. It is only necessary to target China’s major cities to force capitulation. This strategy would free the disenchanted Chinese, living in the rebellious outlying provinces to launch a revolution against Beijing. It is also rumored that the US does have space based nuclear weapons. If this is the case, this conflict could be over in the early morning hours of the first day.
The Chinese submarine force could be capable of taking out several US cities, however, their submarines alone will not change the outcome. India will be held in check by Pakistan. Subsequently, India will never enter the fight. US forces in Afghanistan could block a Russian invasion of Pakistan from the north. It is clear that the USA and her allies will decisively defeat the BRIC nations in a conventional war, so long as it is a short conflict.
However, there is one game-changing strategy that the BRICS could employ. If the BRIC nations were to simultaneously launch a series of high altitude ICBM’s over every theater of potential war, the high altitude nuclear blast could create an EMP attack on a global scale. Such an action would negate the technological advantage of the US military and reduce the conflict to brutal savagery which would be dominated by global famine. Certainly the super elite would experience their much-coveted population reduction on an unprecedented scale. This action would ultimately produce a military stalemate and the war would disintegrate into one brute force versus another for a very long time. The former popular TV show, Revolution, comes to mind. More on the trigger event along with a more detailed chronology will be presented in the next part of this series.
The Tale of the Tape: The BRICS vs. the USA and Her Allies

BRIC Nations Conventional Military Strength
Most Likely to Fight
Men Planes Tanks Carriers Subs Rockets
Russia 766,000 3,082 1,550 1 62 3,781
China 2,825,000 2,788 9,150 1 69 1,770
India 1,325,000 1,785 3,569 2 17 292
Total 4,916, 000 7,655 14,269 4 148 5,843
(NOTE: The forces of North Korea would be absorbed by China

Ukraine and Belarus have a combined military strength of 200,000 men)

USA Allied Nations Conventional Military Strength
Men Planes Tanks Carriers Subs Rockets
USA 1,430,000 13,685 8,325 10 72 1,330
UK 205,330 900 400 1 11 60
FR 230,000 1,200 420 1 10 60
GRM 180,000 710 410 0 4 250
TURK 410,500 990 3,660 0 14 650
S KOR 640,000 1,400 2,350 0 14 250
JAP 250,000 1,600 770 1 16 100
TOT 3,345,830 20,475 8,325 13 141 2,700
Source: Global Fire Power
NUCLEAR WEAPONS: BRIC NATIONS VS USA & ALLIES

Likely refuge for the elite psychopathic banksters.

This display, located at DIA, speaks volumes to the awake among us.
The nuclear arsenals of the BRICS vs. the USA and her allies are equivalent on paper. However, the reliability factor, related to the weapons, clearly favors the USA. To the sane person, the topic of nuclear war is almost a moot point. If either side resorts to the use of nuclear weapons on anything more than a battlefield scale with tactical nuclear weapons, this would render the conflict meaningless as the planet would be a very undesirable place to inhabit. Then again, the psychopathic elite, safely tucked away in the tunnels beneath Denver International Airport, may feel they have the ability to wait out the devastation going on above.
The following data demonstrates the ultimate futility of employing nuclear weapons on a regional and intercontinental basis. Of course, recognizing the futility of such utter destruction and hoping that this would serve as a deterrent to the psychopathic bankers from starting such a conflict, cannot be counted on. After all, if one’s ultimate goal is the destruction and reduction of 90% of the human race, and a nuclear war would constitute the level of chaos needed in order to bring forth “the order of out chaos” which would be needed to usher in the New World Order. This makes nuclear war more, not less likely!
 

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