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<blockquote data-quote="Aertnam Triticus" data-source="post: 66676" data-attributes="member: 3834"><p>@ <a href="http://paranormalis.com/members/jdetterline.923/" target="_blank">jdetterline</a></p><p> </p><p>I am not so much suggesting communism as I am recognizing the value/necessity of communist systems within a society, be it for sake of shared responsibility.</p><p> </p><p>To be clear, I am an anarchist of the libertarian flavor, so to speak. Which is why I advocate for a libertarian free market base system with VOLUNTARY socialism/communism to deal with shared responsibility.It can be managed a number of ways.</p><p> </p><p>No government is more powerful than the will of it's people. And people have inalienable rights. Thus any government predicated upon coercion for a sake of edicts which function to control and/or violate will eventually and inevitably fail.</p><p> </p><p>A truly free market is self balancing as it functions naturally according to supply and demand and not regulations that distort it. It supplies exactly what is demanded without misallocation of goods, service, and currency . Hence, self balancing. (ref. Austrian Economic Theory - Mises and/or Hayek) Anything else, eventually and inevitably fails.</p><p> </p><p>Any society that neglects or mismanages collective responsibility ends up a virtual shithole with various issues with regard to anything of mutual benefit such as infrastructure, general health, etc..</p><p> </p><p>So, how do you get around flawed and failed systems? Well, you form a Libertarian based social order with a free market economy with voluntary communism.</p><p> </p><p>And it will work on any scale, so long as you draw the line where it needs to be in order to keep it consistent with your core structure.</p><p> </p><p>But how do you manage that globally? Well, you have to step back and consider a more generalized strategy. What I mean by that is that if you are going to unite on a mass scale, you have to decentralize and allow cites/towns/counties to live as they choose, but institute a generalized means of management.</p><p> </p><p>For example: You may have one city that ops for a secular totalitarianism while 30 miles away there is another that practices libertarianism, and another 60 miles from that which is a democracy, etc. So long as they are compliant with the general system, so be it. If they aren't trying to take over others and forcefully implement their will, ..cool. What's the problem?</p><p> </p><p>They can opt to/not to be a part of a network of common needs support organizations. So long as they aren't violating, so what?</p><p> </p><p>And while I am thinking about it, let's look at what that(common needs org.) would entail. I like to think of it working similar to how the global community already handles things with regard to disaster relief with organizations like the Red Cross, UNICEF, local churches/charities, etc.</p><p> </p><p>Let's say you have everyone giving a little to their local org. to be distributed according to what your community needs. Then one day a flood hits, or a mass layoff occurs resulting in starving people, or whatever...and you are lacking sufficient funds/goods/etc to handle it...no biggie...because you are a part of a vast network that all get together and pitches in to assist. Neighboring towns collect what they can and send it your way. Piece of cake...All it takes is a little willful organization.</p><p> </p><p>And when you consider what I am suggesting and compare it to what we have now, you can see that we as a planet are already moving in that direction. The difference is that instead of a generalized universal and free, decentralized form of order(for lack of a better term), we have a bunch of centralized coercive governments based on violence and militarism competing and fighting over stature and dominant position.</p><p> </p><p>The current basically consists of a path where the first world industrialized nations assimilate the second world developing nations via political, economic or hostile means. The third world nations eventually follow until we are all eventually integrated and developed into first world industrialization.</p><p> </p><p>As time moves on, as we as a species become more populated, more technologically advanced, more educated, etc.. we are eventually going to integrate for reasons of political and economic convenience anyway. So why are we fighting about it instead of taking a more unified, peaceful and helpful approach?</p><p> </p><p>...Seems kinda stupid not to.</p><p> </p><p>And when/if we actually get our shit together and organize in some sort of peaceful existence, then what? What kind of greatness can we achieve as a species?</p><p> </p><p>Think of what it would be like to have multiple mining communities pitching in fissionable material to power 'Marsville Station' and 'Moondale' instead of threatening invasion over control of who gets to produce ICBM's.</p><p> </p><p>Right?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aertnam Triticus, post: 66676, member: 3834"] @ [URL='http://paranormalis.com/members/jdetterline.923/']jdetterline[/URL] I am not so much suggesting communism as I am recognizing the value/necessity of communist systems within a society, be it for sake of shared responsibility. To be clear, I am an anarchist of the libertarian flavor, so to speak. Which is why I advocate for a libertarian free market base system with VOLUNTARY socialism/communism to deal with shared responsibility.It can be managed a number of ways. No government is more powerful than the will of it's people. And people have inalienable rights. Thus any government predicated upon coercion for a sake of edicts which function to control and/or violate will eventually and inevitably fail. A truly free market is self balancing as it functions naturally according to supply and demand and not regulations that distort it. It supplies exactly what is demanded without misallocation of goods, service, and currency . Hence, self balancing. (ref. Austrian Economic Theory - Mises and/or Hayek) Anything else, eventually and inevitably fails. Any society that neglects or mismanages collective responsibility ends up a virtual shithole with various issues with regard to anything of mutual benefit such as infrastructure, general health, etc.. So, how do you get around flawed and failed systems? Well, you form a Libertarian based social order with a free market economy with voluntary communism. And it will work on any scale, so long as you draw the line where it needs to be in order to keep it consistent with your core structure. But how do you manage that globally? Well, you have to step back and consider a more generalized strategy. What I mean by that is that if you are going to unite on a mass scale, you have to decentralize and allow cites/towns/counties to live as they choose, but institute a generalized means of management. For example: You may have one city that ops for a secular totalitarianism while 30 miles away there is another that practices libertarianism, and another 60 miles from that which is a democracy, etc. So long as they are compliant with the general system, so be it. If they aren't trying to take over others and forcefully implement their will, ..cool. What's the problem? They can opt to/not to be a part of a network of common needs support organizations. So long as they aren't violating, so what? And while I am thinking about it, let's look at what that(common needs org.) would entail. I like to think of it working similar to how the global community already handles things with regard to disaster relief with organizations like the Red Cross, UNICEF, local churches/charities, etc. Let's say you have everyone giving a little to their local org. to be distributed according to what your community needs. Then one day a flood hits, or a mass layoff occurs resulting in starving people, or whatever...and you are lacking sufficient funds/goods/etc to handle it...no biggie...because you are a part of a vast network that all get together and pitches in to assist. Neighboring towns collect what they can and send it your way. Piece of cake...All it takes is a little willful organization. And when you consider what I am suggesting and compare it to what we have now, you can see that we as a planet are already moving in that direction. The difference is that instead of a generalized universal and free, decentralized form of order(for lack of a better term), we have a bunch of centralized coercive governments based on violence and militarism competing and fighting over stature and dominant position. The current basically consists of a path where the first world industrialized nations assimilate the second world developing nations via political, economic or hostile means. The third world nations eventually follow until we are all eventually integrated and developed into first world industrialization. As time moves on, as we as a species become more populated, more technologically advanced, more educated, etc.. we are eventually going to integrate for reasons of political and economic convenience anyway. So why are we fighting about it instead of taking a more unified, peaceful and helpful approach? ...Seems kinda stupid not to. And when/if we actually get our shit together and organize in some sort of peaceful existence, then what? What kind of greatness can we achieve as a species? Think of what it would be like to have multiple mining communities pitching in fissionable material to power 'Marsville Station' and 'Moondale' instead of threatening invasion over control of who gets to produce ICBM's. Right? [/QUOTE]
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