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Original Chat Log - John Titor - October 14, 2000

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    "These logs, sent to the anomalies network from an unnamed source proport to show a late night conversation between the Time Traveler John and several other individuals on IRC."
    -Contributed by Kay E. October 14, 2000

    8TimeTravel_0 has joined the conversation.
    Yareisa : even now I still change my opinions, there is no definitive
    G° : well, I'm not completely on the same wavelength as you and apollo,
    but
    I like it here.
    Yareisa : hi time
    G° : I will be back
    G° : hi time T
    Yareisa : good, we like you
    TimeTravel_0 : greetings
    G° : thanks
    Yareisa : yw
    Yareisa : you've been initiated G!
    G° : sorry I can't stop to chat Time, but it's way past my bed time
    G° : I have?
    TimeTravel_0 : no problem
    Yareisa : oh yes...I'll make sure you have plenty of experience!
    Yareisa : lol
    G° : thanks... I think. LOL ~)
    Yareisa : well I have been awake for 24 hours!
    G° : oh what the heck. maybe I will stop and introduce myself to time....
    Yareisa : good! new I could persuade you!
    Yareisa : knew
    G° : LOL
    TimeTravel_0 : please...and then myself.
    G° : Hi TT, my name is steve, but call me G
    G° : I'm 30, male from England
    G° : and you?
    TimeTravel_0 : My name is John. Im 38 and a time traveler from Florida.
    G° : Oh, and my PC could crash at any time, so I'll say goodnight now in
    case it goes again
    Yareisa : alright, goodnight G
    G° : which time are you from?
    TimeTravel_0 : Goodnight.
    TimeTravel_0 : 2036
    G° : g'night
    G° : is it a good year?
    TimeTravel_0 : For me...yes.
    G° : it's not far to come?
    TimeTravel_0 : Thats right.
    Yareisa : do you want me to do my intro piece?
    G° : so you have been born as well. That could be confusing. no problem
    with
    there being two of you at the same time then?
    G° : yes please Y
    TimeTravel_0 : Not at all. In fact the "me" on this world line is
    upstairs
    alseep.
    TimeTravel_0 : Hes 2
    Yareisa : ty I'm Yareisa, you can call me yar, most do 39 Lincoln, UK
    G° : upstairs? in your house?
    G° : yar, ok.
    Yareisa : or ok yar!
    G° : lol. I was thinking that... lol
    TimeTravel_0 : Not my house. Im just visiting.
    G° : tonight? or longer term than that?
    TimeTravel_0 : I've been here for about 3 months.
    G° : any reason? if you don't mind me asking... I'm interested is all...
    TimeTravel_0 : I'll answer any question you have. I don;t expect you to
    believe me anyway.
    TimeTravel_0 : Theres a picture of my time machine on my profile.
    G° : LOL good. I'd really think you were mad if you did...
    TimeTravel_0 : Your reaction is typical.
    TimeTravel_0 : Im used to it.
    G° : someone invented a time machine by 2036?
    TimeTravel_0 : What would you do if you really met a time travlere anyway?
    G° : what I'm doing now
    Yareisa : what would you do if you met an alien?
    TimeTravel_0 : Yes...in fact the major breakthrough happens at CERN in
    about
    a year.
    G° : cern? whats that?
    TimeTravel_0 : The creation of microsigularities.
    Yareisa : particle accelerator?
    TimeTravel_0 : Yes!
    TimeTravel_0 : You know of it?
    Yareisa : yes a little
    TimeTravel_0 : Most people here in the US have no idea what Im talking
    about.
    Yareisa : they go round until they hit each other don't they
    G° : lol
    TimeTravel_0 : Yes. High speed proton acceleration.
    G° : that about sums an incredibly complex bit of kit in one
    sentence... but
    yes
    TimeTravel_0 : Ill be happy to go into detail but most people regret it.
    Yareisa : go on, we'll scream when we can't handle anymore!
    G° : whats the discovery? a new particle or something?
    TimeTravel_0 : The information has been out for quite a while.
    TimeTravel_0 : CERN is planning to start some very high energy experiments
    soon.
    TimeTravel_0 : There has been some contoversy ...
    TimeTravel_0 : over the damgers of it.
    G° : is antimatter involved?
    TimeTravel_0 : SOme are concerned it might be quite hazardous.
    TimeTravel_0 : No...
    Yareisa : wasn't there something about creating a black hole
    TimeTravel_0 : Yes!!!
    TimeTravel_0 : You've heard of it.
    Yareisa : yes
    TimeTravel_0 : Actually...
    Yareisa : a little
    G° : me too
    TimeTravel_0 : its a black hole about the size of an electron.
    TimeTravel_0 : Im impressed.
    TimeTravel_0 : Where are you both from?
    TimeTravel_0 : England?
    G° : England
    Yareisa : yes
    G° : but different bits
    Yareisa : certainly different bits!
    G° : but next door according to US geography
    TimeTravel_0 : Being from 2036...Im not as ignorant as my colonial
    countrymen.
    G° : so are you staying with your parents then, whilst your here?
    TimeTravel_0 : Yes.
    G° : oh come on, it's not going to change that much in 30 odd years.. LOL
    TimeTravel_0 : Really.
    G° : sorry, Brit joke
    G° : how did they take it? or have you not told them? Your parents?
    TimeTravel_0 : I have to admit... your both quite polite.
    TimeTravel_0 : Oh they know.
    G° : hey, the sign on the door says show respect and keep an open mind
    doesn't it?
    Yareisa : I'm polite because I understand what its like to be ridiculed
    TimeTravel_0 : Im here because of a promise to my grandfather in 1975.
    Yareisa : true G
    G° : I've lived 53 lives on earth before this one. think everyone beleives
    me when i say that?
    TimeTravel_0 : I appreciate that but I also know Im more entertaining than
    anything else.
    TimeTravel_0 : I don't discount anything.
    G° : LOL
    G° : the truly mad wouldn't realise they were ... excentric?
    TimeTravel_0 : You are more right than you know.
    G° : the faxct that you don't expect to be believed has to be a plus
    point..
    G° : sorry go on. your grandfather?
    TimeTravel_0 : I find it quite intersting.
    TimeTravel_0 : Yes.
    TimeTravel_0 : I started in 2036, went back to 1975 and then came forward
    to
    2000...now.
    TimeTravel_0 : Did you see the picture of my machine?
    Yareisa : it wasn't there when I looked
    TimeTravel_0 : If you click on the picture...it takes you to another page.
    I have 3 pictures posted.
    Yareisa : k just doing
    G° : yeah. is it in a cool car?
    TimeTravel_0 : A good car for 1975.
    TimeTravel_0 : The distortion machine is in a 4 wheel drive now.
    G° : how come from then? was it kept in good condition til 2036?
    TimeTravel_0 : Sorry...time machine.
    TimeTravel_0 : I was sent back to 1975 to get a computer.
    TimeTravel_0 : Its an IBM model 5110.
    TimeTravel_0 : My grandfather worked on it.
    G° : because...?
    TimeTravel_0 : Thats why I was sent.
    TimeTravel_0 : We need it in 2036 to recode UNIX which dies in 2038.
    G° : who needed a 5110? and why?
    G° : lost me there. don't enough about computers
    TimeTravel_0 : the 5110 is able to read the old IBM mainframe code.
    TimeTravel_0 : Its the first protable computer produced by IBM.
    TimeTravel_0 : Actually its about the size of a small table.
    TimeTravel_0 : We need on in 2036.
    G° : so have you tried changing the past yet? or have you found that
    everything you do..
    G° : has already been done?
    TimeTravel_0 : Hmmm...physics.
    TimeTravel_0 : Actually... world lines are not fixed.
    TimeTravel_0 : They are all different.
    TimeTravel_0 : There is no one "time".
    G° : but you have a past... you remember things, and if one changes...?
    TimeTravel_0 : Yes...
    TimeTravel_0 : but they are different.
    TimeTravel_0 : The fact that I am here changes this world line.
    G° : so you havn't tried mucking with anything?
    TimeTravel_0 : No...but I could.
    TimeTravel_0 : Its just not that moral in my opinion.
    TimeTravel_0 : Besides...Im not here for that.
    G° : thing is, you might not have changed anything because you already
    were
    here
    TimeTravel_0 : Thats right!!!
    TimeTravel_0 : Very good.
    TimeTravel_0 : In fact..I've noticed samll changes.
    G° : I mean you upstairs asleep wouldn't have known if you now was
    downstairs
    G° : you have? thats what i was getting it
    TimeTravel_0 : No...he knows me.
    TimeTravel_0 : Yes...small changes.
    G° : care to give an example?
    TimeTravel_0 : Sure...
    TimeTravel_0 : Football....(sorry) games that were lost that should have
    been won.
    TimeTravel_0 : Incidental news stories that havent happened.
    TimeTravel_0 : Books not written.
    TimeTravel_0 : Small stuff like that.
    G° : wow. surely that can't be anything to do with you?
    TimeTravel_0 : No.
    TimeTravel_0 : By definition, this world line is not the same as mine.
    G° : so how come do you think?
    TimeTravel_0 : Physics.
    TimeTravel_0 : Have you ever been in a room that has mirrors on all the
    walls?
    G° : you with the infinate worlds with infinate possibilities theory then?
    TimeTravel_0 : Yes!!!
    TimeTravel_0 : Multipole world theory is correct.
    G° : like sliders
    TimeTravel_0 : Sliders?
    G° : tv show
    G° : before your time... LOL
    TimeTravel_0 : Hmmm...havent seent hat one.
    G° : hmmm. I must admit, that theory has always bothered me
    TimeTravel_0 : Have you heard of Schrodinger's cat?
    G° : I mean, why bother? why create all these slightly different
    worlds? no
    offence to you, just never liked it.
    Yareisa : yes
    G° : yes, talking about it the other day
    TimeTravel_0 : Well...there's a little joke in 2036.
    G° : can't remember though
    TimeTravel_0 : If the cat had a distortion machine (time) he may not be in
    the box at all.
    G° : oh yeah, that was it... LOL
    G° : ( i was wondering if you were still ther Yar)
    Yareisa : yes, deep in though
    Yareisa : thought
    G° : sorry, I have to call you Yareisa, I don't like yar....
    Yareisa : ok!
    G° : so. what can we do for you tonight TT? How come your here?
    TimeTravel_0 : I enjoy the "paranormal" chat rooms for 2 reasons.
    TimeTravel_0 : 1. I find the people here are more open to ideas.
    TimeTravel_0 : 2. I find it ironic that when what they are looking for
    falls
    in their lap, they can't believe it.
    G° : sorry you've been doing all the talking....
    8wyrmkin_37 has joined the conversation.
    TimeTravel_0 : Its okay,
    wyrmkin_37 : hello to room
    TimeTravel_0 : I learn a lot from you too.
    G° : hi wyrm
    Yareisa : hi wyrm
    wyrmkin_37 : hey
    G° : so who owns the machine TT?
    G° : who do you work for?
    TimeTravel_0 : The military.
    TimeTravel_0 : Im a soldier.
    TimeTravel_0 : But civilan time travle is not far off.
    G° : do they know your in the year 2000 chatting to us when you should be
    returning with the 5110?
    TimeTravel_0 : Good question!!!
    G° : LOL How would they know?
    G° : unless your machine records jumps?
    TimeTravel_0 : No...but i will return just seconds after I left from their
    point of view.
    TimeTravel_0 : I will only age a bit more than expected.
    wyrmkin_37 : what matter of singularities?
    G° : Imust say, your a very friendly, chatty soldier...
    Yareisa : temporal phase shift
    Yareisa : oops, thinking aloud again
    wyrmkin_37 : anti-matter or dimensional?
    TimeTravel_0 : Well...I only fought in the civil war. The military put me
    through school and I was qualified for this mission.
    TimeTravel_0 : The singularities distort gravity.
    TimeTravel_0 : Ill be happy to go through the physics. The basics are
    already known.
    wyrmkin_37 : please........proceed
    Yareisa : please do
    TimeTravel_0 : Ok
    TimeTravel_0 : In 1967, a physist named Tipler came up with the basic
    equations for time travel based on massive rotating cylinders...ever heard
    of him?
    wyrmkin_37 : in omni?
    G° : no, sorry
    TimeTravel_0 : no problem...
    TimeTravel_0 : are you familiar with black holes and Stephen Halking?
    TimeTravel_0 : Sorry...spelling
    Yareisa : to some degree, yes
    TimeTravel_0 : Ok
    wyrmkin_37 : .......a brief history of time
    TimeTravel_0 : Yes.
    TimeTravel_0 : Black holes distort gravity...which distorts time.
    wyrmkin_37 : theory
    TimeTravel_0 : At there center is a singularity.
    G° : yeah, with you so far
    TimeTravel_0 : No...it is proved.
    TimeTravel_0 : In 1969, science invented a clock sensitive enough to show
    the time difference in a multiple sotry building.
    wyrmkin_37 : kewl
    TimeTravel_0 : On the first floor...time runs slower due to gravity.
    TimeTravel_0 : Clser to the center of the Earth.
    wyrmkin_37 : get outa here
    G° : also the 2 clocks, one in a plane that flew off and came back
    different
    to the other one
    TimeTravel_0 : Yes!!!
    G° : ok
    wyrmkin_37 : gravitation
    TimeTravel_0 : The effect is magnified greatly in a black hole.
    TimeTravel_0 : As it turns out...
    TimeTravel_0 : If you encounter a black hole that is spinning and has an
    electrified field, you will not be killed passing through its massive
    gravitational fiuelds.
    TimeTravel_0 : regreting asking yet>
    Yareisa : no
    TimeTravel_0 : Ok
    wyrmkin_37 : no
    Yareisa : I'm hooked
    TimeTravel_0 : In about a year...
    G° : is this the omeg point theory?
    G° : omega?
    TimeTravel_0 : CERN will discover some very odd things as a result of
    their
    high energy experiments.
    TimeTravel_0 : in about a year.
    TimeTravel_0 : from your point of view.
    wyrmkin_37 : cern?
    TimeTravel_0 : in Geneva.
    Yareisa : particle accelerator
    wyrmkin_37 : oh
    TimeTravel_0 : They will accidently create microsingularities.
    G° : makes things go round and hit each other...
    TimeTravel_0 : Which will evaporate very quickly.
    wyrmkin_37 : one in texas?
    TimeTravel_0 : and create a massive ammount of X-ray and Gamma rays.
    TimeTravel_0 : It will puzzle them for a while.
    TimeTravel_0 : Until they figure out how to add and elcrtical charge and
    capture these strange odd and massive particles in a magnetic field.
    wyrmkin_37 : they shoot electrons at the speed of light.......see what
    they
    bust up into
    TimeTravel_0 : Yes.
    G° : still with you...
    wyrmkin_37 : quarks
    TimeTravel_0 : If you bombard a singularity with electrons...
    TimeTravel_0 : you can alter the size of its event horizon.
    TimeTravel_0 : and thus its gravitational field.
    TimeTravel_0 : By overlapping these fileds from two singularities...
    TimeTravel_0 : you can travel forward and backward through time.
    TimeTravel_0 : Its actuallyu quyite simple.
    wyrmkin_37 : i follow now
    TimeTravel_0 : Thats noit the hard part.
    G° : didn't tipler say there was no event horizon?
    TimeTravel_0 : No..he said it was possible to approach a massive
    gravitationl field from certain angles and not get squished.
    G° : oh, sorry
    wyrmkin_37 : lol
    TimeTravel_0 : Actually...Im not really a physisit.
    G° : but you know all about this stuff... is that why you were picked?
    TimeTravel_0 : I specialize in 20th century history and my grandfather
    builds computers.
    wyrmkin_37 : what base?
    TimeTravel_0 : Hmmm....you drive a car and know how to change the oil
    don;t
    you?
    TimeTravel_0 : I am based in Tampa Fl.
    G° : actually, only just.. LOL
    wyrmkin_37 : chas, afb
    TimeTravel_0 : McDill
    wyrmkin_37 : kewl
    G° : sorry?
    G° : in english?
    wyrmkin_37 : zoomies
    Yareisa : thats english?!
    G° : you airforce wyrm?
    wyrmkin_37 : yes
    G° : your not working on a time machine are you?
    G° : come here for guidance...
    wyrmkin_37 : no just came in for chat
    TimeTravel_0 : Altering gravity is not the hard part.
    G° : LOL
    Yareisa : go on...
    TimeTravel_0 : Detecting gravity is the hard part.
    TimeTravel_0 : I will tell you a littlke story.
    TimeTravel_0 : When time travel was invented.
    TimeTravel_0 : They built prototypes that would go back in time for a
    split
    second and then return.
    TimeTravel_0 : They had sensors and cameras on them.
    TimeTravel_0 : ...and they never returned.
    G° : and forwards as well? how about a single jump forwards?
    TimeTravel_0 : It was later discovered that the machines were ending up
    about 15 miles away and 3000 fett in the air.
    TimeTravel_0 : feet
    G° : doh!
    TimeTravel_0 : The Earth was rotating away from them.
    wyrmkin_37 : synchroniaztion please
    TimeTravel_0 : A system had to be invented that would "hold" the machine
    to
    the Earth.
    TimeTravel_0 : Its called VGL.
    TimeTravel_0 : Its based on very sensative clocks and gravity sensors.
    TimeTravel_0 : It stops the time distortion machine if radical changes in
    gravity are detected.
    wyrmkin_37 : mechanical or electronic clocks
    TimeTravel_0 : You wouldn't want to end up inside a mountain or under
    water...would you?
    TimeTravel_0 : Cesium.
    wyrmkin_37 : oh
    G° : isn't all this classified? surely your suppoed to keep it secret
    whilst
    in the past?
    TimeTravel_0 : LOL!!!
    TimeTravel_0 : I know you think Im nuts...come on.
    TimeTravel_0 : Who would believe me?
    G° : just asking?
    TimeTravel_0 : It my best defense.
    wyrmkin_37 : isnt celsium a higher class of quartz? dont know
    G° : but we don't have long to find out if you are or not
    TimeTravel_0 : Besides...do you know how big a hole 2 sigularites make
    when
    their magnetic filed colpases?
    G° : won't be long before CERN (?) make the discovery
    TimeTravel_0 : Thats right.
    G° : no
    TimeTravel_0 : Welll....either do I. But I don;t want to know.
    G° : LOL
    wyrmkin_37 : i read omni since it came out and i do want to know
    G° : maybe I'll pass on the theory to someone who does their own
    experiment
    and... BANG!
    wyrmkin_37 : lol
    TimeTravel_0 : I've been trying.
    G° : any joy?
    TimeTravel_0 : But Im the crazy yank
    wyrmkin_37 : lmao
    G° : What do you expect? you didn't tell them you from the future did you?
    TimeTravel_0 : You might be interested in this...
    G° : if you really wanted to, you should have just passed on the theory
    G° : go on....
    TimeTravel_0 : Its very hard to convince someone you travel in time unless
    you're related to them.
    G° : or know something that will happen...
    TimeTravel_0 : Good point...but you'de be surprised.
    G° : not that I'm asking you to tell me something, cos I don't want you to
    TimeTravel_0 : They usually think its your fault.
    G° : LOL
    G° : bummer...
    wyrmkin_37 : very interesting
    TimeTravel_0 : That's why I love these chat rooms.
    wyrmkin_37 : me too
    TimeTravel_0 : I know that nothing I say will make a bit of difference.
    wyrmkin_37 : i can drink my jack and coke and learn a few things
    G° : not true.. this is the place where you can make a difference.
    TimeTravel_0 : Im not feeling sorry for myself.
    TimeTravel_0 : Im actually learning to like the people here.
    TimeTravel_0 : You have a very bad reputaion in 2036.
    wyrmkin_37 : TT........who me?
    TimeTravel_0 : lol...in general.
    wyrmkin_37 : heard that
    G° : how about those 80's lot though. they must be worse...
    TimeTravel_0 : Don't get me started.
    G° : LOL
    TimeTravel_0 : At least your commercials and video games have gotten
    beeter
    through the years.
    G° : and as for the 70's! Sheesh!
    wyrmkin_37 : 60's were cool
    TimeTravel_0 : Generaly... this period is thought of as the time when they
    had it all and squanderd it.
    TimeTravel_0 : You diserve your fate.
    wyrmkin_37 : but fun was had
    TimeTravel_0 : That's true.
    TimeTravel_0 : Can I ask you brits a question?
    G° : sure
    Yareisa : yeah sure
    G° : shoot
    TimeTravel_0 : When I was a kid...back in 2012...
    G° : a good year for cyberpunk...
    TimeTravel_0 : I used to watch a DVD called UFO that was made in England.
    TimeTravel_0 : Ever heard of it?
    G° : oops no, that was 2030, sorry
    G° : the tv series? 70's?
    wyrmkin_37 : i saw it on regular tv
    TimeTravel_0 : Yes!!!
    TimeTravel_0 : You've seen it?
    Yareisa : oh yes I remember that one
    TimeTravel_0 : Wow...we do have something in common.
    G° : yeah, dreadful outfits!
    TimeTravel_0 : No one has heard of it here.
    Yareisa : straker wasn't it
    G° : and hairstyles!
    TimeTravel_0 : I loved that show!
    G° : so TT, there is something you can tell me
    TimeTravel_0 : Yes?
    G° : what happens in December 2012?
    wyrmkin_37 : i saw it the good guys were called shadow?
    G° : anything?
    TimeTravel_0 : Ahhh..the acient miayn prohecies.
    G° : the very same
    TimeTravel_0 :
    wyrmkin_37 : mayans
    TimeTravel_0 : sorry
    wyrmkin_37 : ?
    TimeTravel_0 : Nothing happens...but there is a nuclear war in 2015.
    G° : bugger
    TimeTravel_0 : Its not that bad.
    TimeTravel_0 : The bombs are much cleaner.
    G° : i guess not
    wyrmkin_37 : china and russia?
    TimeTravel_0 : There's a civial war in the US.
    wyrmkin_37 : whoa?
    TimeTravel_0 : Russian launches against China, Europe and the US.
    G° : it was bound to happen sooner or later...
    TimeTravel_0 : Can;t you see it coming?
    G° : whatamistaka to maka!
    TimeTravel_0 : Does anyone read history anymore?
    wyrmkin_37 : i saw russia and china but not usa
    TimeTravel_0 : From my point of view...Russia helps us. We win.
    G° : how so?
    TimeTravel_0 : But Im a little pissed right now. Is that still the right
    word?
    wyrmkin_37 : wheat, money........lets make friends
    G° : ?
    TimeTravel_0 : The civil war in the US has two sides.
    TimeTravel_0 : I fought on one side.
    G° : they usualy do
    wyrmkin_37 : proceed sir................
    TimeTravel_0 : The other side got nuked by Russia.
    G° : i see
    G° : not north and south again was it?
    TimeTravel_0 : In 2036, they are our largets trading partner.
    TimeTravel_0 : No...more like city angainst country.'
    wyrmkin_37 : majorities against minorities.......
    TimeTravel_0 : Yes.
    TimeTravel_0 : You know...guns versus no guns.
    TimeTravel_0 : Power versus no power.
    wyrmkin_37 : time to pour another jack and coke
    TimeTravel_0 : Un troops versus no UN troops.
    G° : well, it's been interesting talking to you John, but it's way past my
    bedtime...
    Yareisa : what...I've been up 24 hours!
    TimeTravel_0 : Sleep well.
    TimeTravel_0 : Youve been very polite.
    G° : look me up when you get back to 2036 will you?
    TimeTravel_0 : I will try.
    G° : if i'm still here
    TimeTravel_0 : Go north.
    TimeTravel_0 : Invest in hydrogen fuel cells
    G° : goodnight Yareisa
    Yareisa : goodnight G
    Yareisa : thanks for staying up so early!
    G° : thanks again TT, goodnight
    G° : LOL
    TimeTravel_0 : good night
    G° : see you again soon
    Yareisa : yup
    TimeTravel_0 : Ill be here
    TimeTravel_0 : Think up some good questions
    G° puts on his coat and trudges out...
    Yareisa : bye G
    8G° has left the conversation.
    Yareisa : I've given up going to bed now, might as well keep going!
    TimeTravel_0 : Time is relative.
    TimeTravel_0 : But sleep....
    Yareisa : forgotten what sleep is!
    TimeTravel_0 : What do you do for a living?
    Yareisa : by day...web site design
    TimeTravel_0 : Is your family close to you?
    Yareisa : no
    TimeTravel_0 : That's the one thing I will never understand about this
    time.
    Yareisa : whats that
    TimeTravel_0 : Don;t you feel alone without them?
    Yareisa : not really, I'm used to being alone
    TimeTravel_0 : Its very diffrent in the future.
    TimeTravel_0 : I can't imagine being without my family.
    TimeTravel_0 : I don;t know if I should pity or admire you.
    Yareisa : I'm not sure either!
    8wyrmkin_37 has returned.
    Yareisa : wb
    wyrmkin_37 : hello folks
    TimeTravel_0 : greetings
    Yareisa : I am known as a Warrior, I'm used to fighting to survive
    wyrmkin_37 : been there
    TimeTravel_0 : In the future, life is organized around the family.
    wyrmkin_37 : good
    TimeTravel_0 : and the community.
    Yareisa : then it looks like I have a problem!
    TimeTravel_0 : 'I can;t imagine what it's like to live alone.
    Yareisa : I rather like it actually
    TimeTravel_0 : If I may ask...why?
    Yareisa : I can do what I choose, when I choose without having to answer
    to
    anyone
    TimeTravel_0 : What about it appeals to you?
    wyrmkin_37 : later folks
    8wyrmkin_37 has left the conversation.
    TimeTravel_0 : good night
    Yareisa : Sometimes I miss not having company
    Yareisa : but I'm very independant
    TimeTravel_0 : Your answer is typical of the people of your time.
    TimeTravel_0 : Do you feel you would be hindered by "answerinfg? to
    someone?
    TimeTravel_0 : What does that mean?
    Yareisa : I was hindered, that is why I evicted my husband
    TimeTravel_0 : Please explain.
    Yareisa : I am a deeply spiritual person, I needed to grow, to expand, and
    he stopped me
    TimeTravel_0 : How...if its not too personal.
    Yareisa : he was a control freak, I had to do what he told me to do etc
    TimeTravel_0 : I think you would like the future.
    Yareisa : why is that
    TimeTravel_0 : Its a common complainyt that people feel hindered.
    TimeTravel_0 : In the future, life is more challenging.
    Yareisa : is it more spiritual?
    TimeTravel_0 : There is little room for petty problems.
    TimeTravel_0 : Yes!
    TimeTravel_0 : Mystery returns to existance.
    Yareisa : beyond the human
    TimeTravel_0 : There are fewer luxuries but life is more enjoyable.
    Yareisa : I never like luxuries anyway
    Yareisa : I live basically
    Yareisa : do you consider yourself human
    TimeTravel_0 : I wish I could show you the time machine and give you hope.
    TimeTravel_0 : Yes.
    TimeTravel_0 : I am very different from you.
    Yareisa : in what way
    TimeTravel_0 : My life is very different.
    TimeTravel_0 : I harbor a ccertain ammount of anger toward this time.
    Yareisa : why
    TimeTravel_0 : I see an entire population of people who are sleeping.
    TimeTravel_0 : I fell in love once and she passed away.
    TimeTravel_0 : I blame you for her death.
    Yareisa : why
    TimeTravel_0 : She died of brain cancer.
    TimeTravel_0 : You may find this interesting.
    TimeTravel_0 : WHen I was training for "time travel"...
    TimeTravel_0 : ...a great deal of what we did was pyscholgical training.
    TimeTravel_0 : In one of our exercises...we had to go back in time and
    convince "ourselves" to do something we regretted not doing in our own
    life.
    TimeTravel_0 : I told myself to get married before she died.
    TimeTravel_0 : SOmething I was unable to do.
    TimeTravel_0 : I hate you for that.
    Yareisa : hate me personally?
    TimeTravel_0 : Sorry.... I don;t hate you.
    TimeTravel_0 : I mean this time.
    TimeTravel_0 : Jacksonville Fl took a direct hit.
    TimeTravel_0 : The radiation killed her.
    Yareisa : I cannot say sorry for something that hasn't happened yet, but I
    am sorry
    TimeTravel_0 : I talk too much
    Yareisa : and I don't talk enough
    TimeTravel_0 : I just wish things didn;t have to happen athey way they
    will.
    Yareisa : we cannot change it?
    TimeTravel_0 : Its too late.
    Yareisa : I sensed that
    TimeTravel_0 : I regret what you could have been bot what will result.
    TimeTravel_0 : not
    TimeTravel_0 : ...are you drinking?
    Yareisa : no
    TimeTravel_0 : I am... orange wine.
    TimeTravel_0 : I love it.
    Yareisa : I think my ethereal has taken over, my body has no need for
    anything more
    TimeTravel_0 : Are you alone?
    Yareisa : yes
    TimeTravel_0 : No children?
    Yareisa : none
    TimeTravel_0 : Are you afraid?
    Yareisa : what of
    TimeTravel_0 : Being alone?
    Yareisa : no
    TimeTravel_0 : I don;t mean to be so perosnal.
    TimeTravel_0 : I aplogoze.
    Yareisa : its alright, I'm used to it
    TimeTravel_0 : To being alone?
    Yareisa : to being asked personal questions as well!
    TimeTravel_0 : I appreciate your kindness.
    Yareisa : ty, but that is my nature
    TimeTravel_0 : I am familiar with Blue Oyster Cult.
    Yareisa : oh, you've read my profile?!
    TimeTravel_0 : I just took a look.
    TimeTravel_0 : In fact...my father is a big fan.
    Yareisa : the link to my web site is on there too
    Yareisa : one of my favourite tracks is, Veterans of the Psychic Wars
    TimeTravel_0 : Thats quite a webb ste...hold on.
    Yareisa : k
    TimeTravel_0 : Im asking my father.
    TimeTravel_0 : He says thats from "Heavy Metal"?
    Yareisa : I've got it on a compilation, Workshop of the Telescopes
    TimeTravel_0 : "Cultosaurus Erectus" is his favorite.
    TimeTravel_0 : I have no idea what he's taling about.
    Yareisa : probably best not to, might cause a glitch in the space time
    contimuum!
    TimeTravel_0 : Godzillia?
    Yareisa : yes thats a good one
    TimeTravel_0 : Hes lauging.
    TimeTravel_0 : You wacky 20th century freaks.
    Yareisa : Don't Fear The Reaper is good too, a classic
    Yareisa : so do I presume the aliens don't come in 2012 then?
    TimeTravel_0 : Noty that Im aware of.
    TimeTravel_0 : However...there are plenty of things that will get your
    attention by 2012.
    Yareisa : such as...can you say?
    TimeTravel_0 : My father has a question.
    Yareisa : go on
    TimeTravel_0 : What do you think of "club Ninja"? I have no idea what
    that
    is.
    Yareisa : I haven't heard that one
    Yareisa : I've got Dancing in the ruins on the compilation
    TimeTravel_0 : He says it was one of their last CDs.
    Yareisa : yes, then there is Imaginos
    Yareisa : I've just started to collect them again, used to have some
    albums,
    getting CD's now
    TimeTravel_0 : Revolutoin by night? What's that.
    Yareisa : another album
    TimeTravel_0 : I see.
    TimeTravel_0 : Perhaps you should talk to my father.
    Yareisa : I could get confused!
    Yareisa : Actually, I will have to go soon, its nearly 6 in the morning
    here...
    Yareisa : I got up at 5 in the morning on Friday
    TimeTravel_0 : I hope to talk to yoiu again.
    Yareisa : I would like that
    TimeTravel_0 : Cheer up.
    TimeTravel_0 : Things get better.
    TimeTravel_0 : Get some sleep.
    Yareisa : I will!
    TimeTravel_0 : Good night.
    Yareisa : good night left the conversation.
     
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    Thank you, Professor, for posting this Chat Log! I don't know if I have it in my Research Journals, but I shall look.

    Now I will point out a few very interesting things. Below I've posted excerpts from the Chat in Yellow, and I highlighted in BLUE the parts that I want to discuss.

    First, notice John mentions an "IBM model 5110", NOT the "IBM 5100". He mentions the "5110" four times in the Chat! Why would he do this? John came to our Timeline for the IBM 5100. (Maybe he accidentally made a mistake, because he was drinking wine?? Perhaps John was little buzzed from the alcohol...?) PamelaM, if you see this post, I would like to know what you think about this since you have the 5110 label.

    TimeTravel_0 : I was sent back to 1975 to get a computer.
    TimeTravel_0 : Its an IBM model 5110.

    If this is the genuine Chat Log, did anyone notice that John mentioned a "DVD" that he used to watch in 2012. Today in 2012, DVDs are very common and widely used, but at the time of this Chat on our Timeline in 2000, DVDs were invented but not-at-all widely used. At the time of this Chat, people used VHS tapes, not DVDs! (I believe John mentioned taking back VHS tapes in one or more of his other postings.) This is evidence that John was really from our future.

    TimeTravel_0 : Can I ask you brits a question?
    G° : sure
    Yareisa : yeah sure
    G° : shoot
    TimeTravel_0 : When I was a kid...back in 2012...
    G° : a good year for cyberpunk...
    TimeTravel_0 : I used to watch a DVD called UFO that was made in England.
    TimeTravel_0 : Ever heard of it?
    G° : oops no, that was 2030, sorry

    Question about December 2012...

    G° : what happens in December 2012?
    wyrmkin_37 : i saw it the good guys were called shadow?
    G° : anything?
    TimeTravel_0 : Ahhh..the acient miayn prohecies.
    G° : the very same
    TimeTravel_0 :
    wyrmkin_37 : mayans
    TimeTravel_0 : sorry
    wyrmkin_37 : ?
    TimeTravel_0 : Nothing happens...but there is a nuclear war in 2015.

    Question about Spirituality...people from John's world are very spiritual (they believe in Jesus as he stated elsewhere)...A BIG difference from people today. Refer to my thread on this subject for more info (click on green): John Titor's Religious Beliefs: Bible Prophecy, Revelation, Return of Christ, the Rapture, 2012

    Yareisa : I am a deeply spiritual person, I needed to grow, to expand, and
    he stopped me
    TimeTravel_0 : How...if its not too personal.
    Yareisa : he was a control freak, I had to do what he told me to do etc
    TimeTravel_0 : I think you would like the future.
    Yareisa : why is that
    TimeTravel_0 : Its a common complainyt that people feel hindered.
    TimeTravel_0 : In the future, life is more challenging.
    Yareisa : is it more spiritual?
    TimeTravel_0 : There is little room for petty problems.
    TimeTravel_0 : Yes!

    John was in love once, but his true love died. (I know exactly how he felt. It happened to me.)
    As a result, John harbored some anger (understandably) towards this generation.

    TimeTravel_0 : I am very different from you.
    Yareisa : in what way
    TimeTravel_0 : My life is very different.
    TimeTravel_0 : I harbor a ccertain ammount of anger toward this time.
    Yareisa : why
    TimeTravel_0 : I see an entire population of people who are sleeping.
    TimeTravel_0 : I fell in love once and she passed away.
    TimeTravel_0 : I blame you for her death.
    Yareisa : why
    TimeTravel_0 : She died of brain cancer.
    TimeTravel_0 : You may find this interesting.
    TimeTravel_0 : WHen I was training for "time travel"...
    TimeTravel_0 : ...a great deal of what we did was pyscholgical training.
    TimeTravel_0 : In one of our exercises...we had to go back in time and
    convince "ourselves" to do something we regretted not doing in our own
    life.
    TimeTravel_0 : I told myself to get married before she died.
    TimeTravel_0 : SOmething I was unable to do.
    TimeTravel_0 : I hate you for that.
    Yareisa : hate me personally?
    TimeTravel_0 : Sorry.... I don;t hate you.
    TimeTravel_0 : I mean this time.
    TimeTravel_0 : Jacksonville Fl took a direct hit.
    TimeTravel_0 : The radiation killed her.
    Yareisa : I cannot say sorry for something that hasn't happened yet, but I
    am sorry
    TimeTravel_0 : I talk too much [I think John may have been talking "too much" because of the wine he was drinking. See further below.]
    Yareisa : and I don't talk enough
    TimeTravel_0 : I just wish things didn;t have to happen athey way they
    will.
    Yareisa : we cannot change it?
    TimeTravel_0 : Its too late.
    Yareisa : I sensed that
    TimeTravel_0 : I regret what you could have been bot what will result.
    TimeTravel_0 : not
    TimeTravel_0 : ...are you drinking?
    Yareisa : no
    TimeTravel_0 : I am... orange wine.
    TimeTravel_0 : I love it.

    More about 2012...

    Yareisa : so do I presume the aliens don't come in 2012 then?
    TimeTravel_0 : Noty that Im aware of.
    TimeTravel_0 : However...there are plenty of things that will get your
    attention by 2012.

    John does not elaborate, but if you look at the thread I posted (click on the green thread Title), you will see where John talks more about things that "will get your attention by 2012": John Titor's Religious Beliefs: Bible Prophecy, Revelation, Return of Christ, the Rapture, 2012

    Very interesting Chat Log. Thanks again Professor for posting it.
     
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    TimeTravel_0 : Its an IBM model 5110.
    TimeTravel_0 : My grandfather worked on it.
    TimeTravel_0 : I specialize in 20th century history and my grandfather
    builds computers.
    TimeTravel_0 : I'll answer any question you have. I don;t expect you to
    believe me anyway.
    G° : isn't all this classified? surely your suppoed to keep it secret
    whilst
    in the past?
    TimeTravel_0 : LOL!!!
    TimeTravel_0 : I know you think Im nuts...come on.
    TimeTravel_0 : Who would believe me?
    G° : just asking?
    TimeTravel_0 : It my best defense.
    TimeTravel_0 : That's why I love these chat rooms.
    wyrmkin_37 : me too
    TimeTravel_0 : I know that nothing I say will make a bit of difference.
    TimeTravel_0 : ...are you drinking?
    Yareisa : no
    TimeTravel_0 : I am... orange wine.
    TimeTravel_0 : I love it.
    TimeTravel_0 : I talk too much
     
    I think if you put all this together you have your answer.
    John was drunk.. when you are drunk you do not watch what you say.
    and he was not expecting anyone to save the chat so he didnt think it
    mattered what he said. sometimes you lie to protect people.
    But when you drink you say whatever and i think he knew he was talking too much
    he even admitted it. He just kind of let his feelings and a bunch of information freely out.

    I dont really know ...all I know is I have a 5110 label he sent me. But all I asked for was something
    that time traveled through the blackhole with him. Its possible he brought back both computers.
    I dont know all I can tell you is what I know. I actually had someone ask me this a couple days ago
    about the label. We just dont know the whole story between the 5100 and the 5110.
    he had to have the 5110 with him if he gave me a label from it and it went through the blackhole
    with him because that was what I asked for. But he talked about getting the 5100.
    as I know they were basicsally the same computer system . But the 5110 was the computer that was produced
    after the 5100. perhaps thats where the correction came from. He said this computer was to fix the 2038 bug
    nothing about Y2K . and perhaps this was another John. It gets so complicated because we dont know everything.
    Yes I do believe this was a real chat log. I talked to John in the same type of chat rooms.

     
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    Hi Pam, Thanks for the reply. About the 5110 label that he gave you. I would think that John might have brought that with him from his time in 2036 to show his grandfather, as part of proof that he was a Time Traveler. Another possibility. What do you think?

    "It gets so complicated because we dont know everything."...I think of this often and it reminds me of the movie "The Time Traveler's Wife"! (How he came back even after he died, because he was Time Traveling...)
     
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    All I can tell you is what I know ....and dang I think I might talk too much also and I dont even drink.
     
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    I just pulled up photos of an IBM 5110. I had no idea that they were basically the same as the 5100. They look identical! Back in 2004 when I was researching, the photo I found for a 5110 looked different. Now I see it was actually the 5120 that I had seen. So I understand now why you said there wasn't much difference between the 5100 and 5110.
     
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    I know i'm beating a dead horse here but, in one of our recent Chat Events, the question was raised as to where he was posting from during his visit to this time. I had always suspected he was doing so from his "childhood" home in Fla. but the log above proves the point.
     
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    greetings everybody...
    so lets have a little journey of mine i am courious about...
    do you guys remember this part of the chat log published in the web?

    TimeTravel_0 : Can I ask you brits a question?
    G° : sure
    Yareisa : yeah sure
    G° : shoot
    TimeTravel_0 : When I was a kid...back in 2012...
    G° : a good year for cyberpunk...
    TimeTravel_0 : I used to watch a DVD called UFO that was made in England.
    TimeTravel_0 : Ever heard of it?
    G° : oops no, that was 2030, sorry
    G° : the tv series? 70's?
    wyrmkin_37 : i saw it on regular tv
    TimeTravel_0 : Yes!!!
    TimeTravel_0 : You've seen it?
    Yareisa : oh yes I remember that one
    TimeTravel_0 : Wow...we do have something in common.
    G° : yeah, dreadful outfits!
    TimeTravel_0 : No one has heard of it here.
    Yareisa : straker wasn't it
    G° : and hairstyles!
    TimeTravel_0 : I loved that show!

    soooo...here it comes...what if he talks about two different things here???
    first of all UFO (1970-1973) the series is NOT one DVD and never was...there are two large sets containing each 4 DVDs...in the united states there also was a mega set containing all DVDs (UFO Series Frequently Asked Questions)...he also mentioned "TimeTravel_0 : When I was a kid...back in 2012..." and this is what made me really thinking
    so my little me myself and I planned a search on IMDB with the query "UFO 2012"...doing this and punching in the first two letters "UF" pops up U.F.O (2012) as a suggestion...gave me a hell of goosebumps -_- well so i decided to click on that and landed here... U.F.O. (2012) - IMDb
    and what hit me now was this...
    U.F.O. (2012)
    101 min - Sci-Fi - 14 December 2012 (UK)
    WOW i thought...a one DVD movie called UFO released 2012 and made in the UK...that was goosebumps number two...very strange and awkward moment...i got my hold on it and ready to watch in 20 minutes -_- i looked at the page a little more...hmmm i discovered a disturbing name in the character list
    "Jean-Claude Van Damme" and i almost started laughing at myself about having the s$%! already on my computer X_x...dont ask me why but...well i decided not to watch it...took it as a weird idea and left it there...until yesterday...i was bored...so i gave myself a bump and clicked the button to watch it...open minded i told myself that i watched worse in my lifetime X_o
    soooo here comes my goosebump moment number 3 on this subject...the seventh sentence into the movie is
    "00:00:33,012 --> 00:00:36,972 Stay with your friends, people you know.Then you're safe"...said by Jean-Claude Van Damme...this is familiar advise i thought...not the same but quite right like one read somewhere i recalled..."6. Find 5 people within 100 miles that you trust with your life and stay in contact with them."...well i was hooked and watched the movie with a lot of attention
    first of all...Jean-Claude Van Damme has not a big paper in it and it turns out it is not really that much about UFOs more of how the situation would be if an event like this occurs...you could easily change the subject UFO to any you can think of it wouldnt change the story line a lot...they even talk about different possibilities in the movie...well i dont wanna spoil the movie for anyone who wants to watch it so...i better shut up...all this is my personal opinion of course

    after watching the movie again i decided to get an account here on paranormalies...just to get it out there
    i havent seen any comment about this after hours of reading i did in the last couple of weeks...neither here on the forum nor in the web...i thought this forum would be a good place to have a realistic response on this cause in the end i guess its the only forum that gives this whole john titor thing a serious thought (sure there are a lot of things i dont agree with here but...thats human nature in my opinion)

    sooooo...my questions now for the Experts On John Titor would be:

    what do you think of this...lets call it a...coincidence...for now?
    is it john titor style to seed information somehow this cryptic style?

    i hope you guys do not shred me for this...constructive comments are appreciated
    greets tomrat
     
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    When John was posting Online on our Worldline in 2000/2001, VHS tapes were the thing for movies. DVD's did not become the dominant form of home video distribution in the United States until June 15, 2003.

    I do not recall this chat. Can anyone confirm or deny that this was an actual Chat Log from John Titor?
     
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