This week, we have the great pleasure to discuss in chat with Kimberli Ridgeway, from Ghoul B Gone. She's also known as Holyhellcat on the forum. I'm going to let you read her quick biography and then take a look at both her website and blog page so that you can know her background a little bit: Here is her website: Ghoul B Gone Her blog: Ghoul B Gone Obviously, we are going to talk about dark creatures, malicious entities, the afterlife, ghosts and hauntings and probably a lot of other things! This should be a very interesting chat event for sure.Prepare your questions and make sure you don't miss this one! Paranormalis Chat Event with Kimberli Ridgeway: Thursday 9PM EST Free chat: Friday 9PM EST --Numenorean7
Here is the chat log! 2012-08-23 21:00:08 Numenorean7: Hello! How are you? 2012-08-23 21:00:08 Numenorean7: Oh, and welcome to the site! 2012-08-23 21:00:48 AtomicKangaroo: thanks. 2012-08-23 21:02:39 Holyhellcat: I am back! Lets roll! 2012-08-23 21:03:09 kcwildman: hello hello is this thing working 2012-08-23 21:03:09 Holyhellcat: Roo this is just a chat. 2012-08-23 21:03:24 Traveler Malaki: Working for me 2012-08-23 21:04:04 Numenorean7: Wow, the chatroom is acting weird tonight. 2012-08-23 21:04:14 Traveler Malaki: Yes it is, it froze on me about a minute ago 2012-08-23 21:04:29 kcwildman: yeh almost didn't get in myself lol 2012-08-23 21:04:31 Holyhellcat: To start out with my name is Kimberli Ridgeway. I do have a Doctorate in Natural Health and I am a Spiritual Healer. I make a product called Ghoul B. Gone. I welcome your questions 2012-08-23 21:04:45 Numenorean7: Yeah, the chat provider's site was completely down for about 2 minutes. Sounds like they fixed the lag we were experiencing earlier. 2012-08-23 21:05:10 Numenorean7: Welcome to the chat Kimberli, I'm glad you accepted to discuss with us! 2012-08-23 21:05:40 Holyhellcat: Roo has been with me for quite a long time, he has been my webmaster for years. He can tell you where I am concerned, things get strange. Not being paranoid, it just is what it is. I would suggest you have a back up plan in place if we get shut down. 2012-08-23 21:06:10 kcwildman: cool so what is this ghoul be gone 2012-08-23 21:06:11 Holyhellcat: I know there are certian individuals that would prefer that the control grids never be discussed 2012-08-23 21:06:21 TimeNot_0: Anything going onl here and "Hello"? 2012-08-23 21:06:36 Numenorean7: Hello, we're just starting. 2012-08-23 21:06:43 Holyhellcat: Ghoul B Gone is a mystic mist. Paranormal researches have picked it up 2012-08-23 21:06:50 Holyhellcat: It does many things 2012-08-23 21:06:53 Numenorean7: How does it work? 2012-08-23 21:06:54 AtomicKangaroo: yes, I have seen some weird things occur online with Kimberli here, and I'm an open minded skeptic. 2012-08-23 21:07:05 Holyhellcat: Clears the aura, balences the chakras 2012-08-23 21:07:40 Holyhellcat: Entities that I call Mr Meanie Pants can't stand it 2012-08-23 21:07:42 BlaqueJacques: hello! 2012-08-23 21:07:56 kcwildman: hey BJ 2012-08-23 21:07:56 Numenorean7: Hello! 2012-08-23 21:08:13 Holyhellcat: We are all being with a light force and when we go to places like a hospitial, family reunion, work 2012-08-23 21:08:25 AtomicKangaroo: is there any "entities" that it wouldn't work on? Just to get it out of the way, or does it have an adverse effect on all paranormal Critters? 2012-08-23 21:08:34 Holyhellcat: we attract these entities that just attach and use us as a food source 2012-08-23 21:08:36 Traveler Malaki: Mr Meanie Pants lol 2012-08-23 21:08:55 Holyhellcat: that results in us aging faster, becoming tired... they are parasites 2012-08-23 21:09:20 Traveler Malaki: I know people can absorb energy through psychic means, is it possible to absorb them too? 2012-08-23 21:09:25 TimeNot_0: I took an aspirin. 2012-08-23 21:09:38 Holyhellcat: When I give people samples by spraying their energy field, immediatly they look younger and more refreshed 2012-08-23 21:09:52 AtomicKangaroo: That would be possesion Malaki? 2012-08-23 21:10:09 Holyhellcat: Yes it is very possible to attract these parasites psychicly 2012-08-23 21:10:16 Holyhellcat: even thru watching TV 2012-08-23 21:10:32 Traveler Malaki: no, basically they absorb their energy, draining the entities, until they basically get converted into the persons own energy 2012-08-23 21:10:34 Holyhellcat: This is not even oppersion 2012-08-23 21:10:43 Holyhellcat: that is a deeper discussion. 2012-08-23 21:11:02 Holyhellcat: lets work thru the parasites first, then we will dive into oppression and possesion 2012-08-23 21:11:05 Traveler Malaki: Basically just 'eating' the entity 2012-08-23 21:11:19 AtomicKangaroo: ok thanks for clarifying 2012-08-23 21:11:46 Holyhellcat: So when you spray the Ghoul B Gone, it is like off to the energtic parasites 2012-08-23 21:11:55 Holyhellcat: they leave like mosquitoes 2012-08-23 21:12:12 Holyhellcat: One can use it around their home or office as well. 2012-08-23 21:12:12 opmmur: Hi people 2012-08-23 21:12:30 BlaqueJacques: hi opmmur! 2012-08-23 21:12:43 Holyhellcat: People have told me when they use it at the office or around their family, grumpy mean people either become nice or leave 2012-08-23 21:13:12 Holyhellcat: It also is doing other things I never expected. 2012-08-23 21:13:23 opmmur: welcome Holyhellcat, good to have you here tonight. 2012-08-23 21:13:24 Numenorean7: I should use that on my boss! 2012-08-23 21:13:25 AtomicKangaroo: such as? 2012-08-23 21:13:40 Holyhellcat: The paranormal researches are telling me their batteries do not drain as fast when they use Ghoul B Gone 2012-08-23 21:13:52 Holyhellcat: Yes use it on your boss. 2012-08-23 21:14:37 Holyhellcat: I have a funny boss story. A real creeep, we srayed down his whole office at 2 am and he was transfered before he came back the next day! 2012-08-23 21:15:17 TimeNot_0: 2 AM in the morning?? 2012-08-23 21:15:17 Holyhellcat: And the benevolet entities are able to use it like a power source and come in easier. 2012-08-23 21:15:25 Holyhellcat: So it is thinning the veil. 2012-08-23 21:15:34 Holyhellcat: yes 2 am 2012-08-23 21:16:15 Holyhellcat: Reaserches are getting way more evp's and photgraphs using Ghoul B Gone 2012-08-23 21:16:18 Numenorean7: I'm understanding that the effects appear pretty quickly, right? 2012-08-23 21:16:20 AtomicKangaroo: so is there anything that makes a person more susceptible to these entities? Lifestyle, diet etc??? 2012-08-23 21:16:30 Holyhellcat: Instant 2012-08-23 21:16:41 Holyhellcat: Yes Roo 2012-08-23 21:17:00 Holyhellcat: But know, the brighter your inner light, the more you will attract 2012-08-23 21:17:28 Holyhellcat: If someone has an oppression or possesion, that entity will keep the parasites off 2012-08-23 21:17:52 Holyhellcat: That is where lifestyle metal emotional and spiritual health come into play 2012-08-23 21:18:18 opmmur: would this work with a schizophrenic patient 2012-08-23 21:18:29 Holyhellcat: It constanly amazes me the number of people who have these kind of riders. 2012-08-23 21:19:10 Holyhellcat: It has been my experience that someone with severe mental illness is suffering with possesion or oppresion 2012-08-23 21:19:36 Holyhellcat: Ghoul B Gone would work like Holy Water, just a tool in the process. A powerful one 2012-08-23 21:19:51 Holyhellcat: It really upsets the demonic spirits 2012-08-23 21:20:03 opmmur: would it be similar to Rosewater 2012-08-23 21:20:06 Holyhellcat: I had one guy, I swear this is a true story 2012-08-23 21:20:15 Holyhellcat: Yes, but stroger 2012-08-23 21:21:09 opmmur: is the origin from the North American Indians 2012-08-23 21:21:10 Holyhellcat: I know I was fixing to be working with someone I believed to be suffering from possesion. So before 2012-08-23 21:21:20 AtomicKangaroo: but aren't some forms of mental illness truly physical ailments? How do you differntiate between those and the "opressed/possessed" 2012-08-23 21:21:29 Holyhellcat: he arrived, I sprayed the place down with Ghoul B Gone 2012-08-23 21:21:56 Holyhellcat: He had a history of being in and out of mental hospitials. 2012-08-23 21:22:06 Holyhellcat: Roo, each case is different 2012-08-23 21:22:23 Holyhellcat: On some unbeliveable amouts of medication 2012-08-23 21:22:32 Holyhellcat: But had requested my help. 2012-08-23 21:22:49 kcwildman: as I understand it all mental illness is either opression or posession 2012-08-23 21:22:55 Holyhellcat: I happened to be out of town at the time so i told him to meet me in my hotel room 2012-08-23 21:23:10 Holyhellcat: kc, most of what I have seen is 2012-08-23 21:23:28 Holyhellcat: or they are not in sync with the 3rd diminsional vibration 2012-08-23 21:23:44 JasperMoon: :} 2012-08-23 21:23:52 kcwildman: hey jas 2012-08-23 21:24:11 JasperMoon: watching big Bang theory what a laugh 2012-08-23 21:24:13 Holyhellcat: When he came to the room, he walked around the room, being that one of his symptoms is paranoia, I allowed him to do so 2012-08-23 21:24:14 BlaqueJacques: Hi jaspermoon! 2012-08-23 21:24:25 JasperMoon: hello 2012-08-23 21:24:44 Samstwitch: Wow, busy tonight! Hi everybody, sorry I'm late. 2012-08-23 21:24:54 JasperMoon: I just got home from work 2012-08-23 21:24:57 BlaqueJacques: Hi, glad to see you! 2012-08-23 21:24:59 kcwildman: bad girl no donut 2012-08-23 21:25:06 Samstwitch: LOL 2012-08-23 21:25:29 Holyhellcat: He then went to my bag, grabbed the ghoul b gone out and in a bizarre demonic way, pushed the bottle in my face, his eyes changed and he raged at me and said, this shit won't work on me!!! 2012-08-23 21:25:50 Holyhellcat: 15 mins later he was on the floor in spasms 2012-08-23 21:26:01 JasperMoon: okay you have a very angry demon in your house it sounds 2012-08-23 21:26:18 Holyhellcat: It was a client who reached out for help 2012-08-23 21:26:41 Holyhellcat: He has quite possibly the worst possesion I have ever encountered 2012-08-23 21:27:00 opmmur: is the origin from the North American Indians 2012-08-23 21:27:00 Numenorean7: Hello HDRKID! 2012-08-23 21:27:09 JasperMoon: are you an exorcist? 2012-08-23 21:27:22 Holyhellcat: opmmur, orgin of? 2012-08-23 21:27:34 Holyhellcat: and thanks everyone for joining!!! 2012-08-23 21:27:38 Numenorean7: 2012-08-23 21:27:54 Numenorean7: The origin of Goul B Gone I guess? 2012-08-23 21:28:06 kcwildman: yep 2012-08-23 21:28:40 Holyhellcat: I did not come up with the recipie 2012-08-23 21:28:41 Samstwitch: what is goul b gone? Sorry I got here late. Is it some kind of spray? 2012-08-23 21:28:52 kcwildman: yep 2012-08-23 21:28:55 Holyhellcat: It was written in light on my kitchen window 2012-08-23 21:28:59 HDRKID: hi 2012-08-23 21:29:02 AtomicKangaroo: anti bad spook spray basically 2012-08-23 21:29:03 opmmur: The origin of Goul B Gone - Native American culture or European or African or etc. 2012-08-23 21:29:42 Holyhellcat: The recipie included not only ingredients, but a longitude and latitude 2012-08-23 21:29:43 HDRKID: Hi Holly 2012-08-23 21:29:49 Holyhellcat: as well as a date/time 2012-08-23 21:29:51 HDRKID: I saw an imp. 2012-08-23 21:29:52 Samstwitch: Wow, that's pretty trippy! A spray for demons. 2012-08-23 21:30:04 kcwildman: so some good spirit gave you the bad spirit spray formula 2012-08-23 21:30:15 Traveler Malaki: I never used any spray or holy water, I usually force them back to their own little plane of existance or with regular spirits cross them over again 2012-08-23 21:30:16 Holyhellcat: Yes 2012-08-23 21:30:22 Holyhellcat: I just bottled it 2012-08-23 21:30:29 kcwildman: cool 2012-08-23 21:30:35 Holyhellcat: They even told me to call it Ghoul B gone 2012-08-23 21:30:49 Holyhellcat: They said the only way to tell truth is thru fiction 2012-08-23 21:30:52 AtomicKangaroo: yeah, but not everyone has that kind of mojo I guess Malaki 2012-08-23 21:30:54 Crethox: evening everyone 2012-08-23 21:30:59 Traveler Malaki: true 2012-08-23 21:31:06 JasperMoon: hello 2012-08-23 21:31:25 Samstwitch: Have you ever told Jason and Grant (founders of Ghost Hunters) or other Ghost Hunters about Goul B Gone, or do they already know? I'm sure they would find it useful. 2012-08-23 21:31:29 Holyhellcat: It is like an amped up holy water 2012-08-23 21:32:00 Traveler Malaki: Ever meet a 'nice' demon or similar entity? 2012-08-23 21:32:18 Holyhellcat: Mystic Blend includes: Blessing, Celtic Sea Salt, Frankincense, Myrrh, Gold, White Sage, Lavender, Sandalwood, Quartz, Black Tourmaline, Moldavite, Jade, Garnet, Opal, and Spectralite. 2012-08-23 21:32:34 Holyhellcat: Yes, there are lots of benevolet entities 2012-08-23 21:33:03 Holyhellcat: I added lavender and vanilla essential oils to give it a nice aroma 2012-08-23 21:33:28 Samstwitch: have you ever told any ghost hunters about your product? 2012-08-23 21:33:33 opmmur: I understand about half the ingredients and why you would use them the others after research little bit 2012-08-23 21:34:07 TimeNot_0: Do the benevolent entities ever help? 2012-08-23 21:34:26 opmmur: have you performed any exorcisms on people with this product 2012-08-23 21:34:36 Holyhellcat: Yes, lots are using it and getting more evps and pics, it clears out the meanie pants and thins the viel for the good entities to come thru 2012-08-23 21:34:55 Holyhellcat: Yes the ben's are here just to help 2012-08-23 21:35:03 Holyhellcat: There are neutral entities 2012-08-23 21:35:11 AtomicKangaroo: Ghost Hunters? I think a legit platform would be better. They fake so much and it's not even good fakery at that IMO. 2012-08-23 21:35:16 Holyhellcat: And yes, I use it like I would sage or holy water 2012-08-23 21:35:26 trekie4ever: Hello everyone... I can't believe I almost missed this... 2012-08-23 21:35:35 Holyhellcat: Real hunters are not what is seen on TV roo 2012-08-23 21:35:42 Holyhellcat: Ghoul B Gone: Aura Analysis of Ghoul B Gone 2012-08-23 21:35:54 Holyhellcat: That is a link to a before and after aura photos 2012-08-23 21:36:09 Holyhellcat: the time stamps are 4 mins apart 2012-08-23 21:36:26 Holyhellcat: The effects of Ghoul B gone are immediate 2012-08-23 21:36:48 Samstwitch: Hey, don't diss Ghost Hunters! They're very professional. 2012-08-23 21:37:07 AtomicKangaroo: Just giving an opinion. 2012-08-23 21:37:19 Holyhellcat: The effects of Ghoul B gone are immediate 2012-08-23 21:37:50 Holyhellcat: If you have ever been on a hunt, you know 22 mins just can't cover everything. And sometimes you get nothing 2012-08-23 21:38:32 Holyhellcat: The ghost hunting is so experimental right now, I think in 10 years, it will have enough tried and true to have it to a real respected science 2012-08-23 21:38:34 BlastTyrant: It can when the video is compressed to certain points 2012-08-23 21:38:54 Holyhellcat: I work with alot of hunters, they all have my respect 2012-08-23 21:39:03 Samstwitch: Have you spoken to mediums about Goul B Gone, such as James Van Praagh or Lisa Williams? It sounds great! 2012-08-23 21:39:20 AtomicKangaroo: problem with comression is it seems to always degrade the image quality, which is a big problem of most "ghosty vids" and that;s before comression even occurs. 2012-08-23 21:39:20 Holyhellcat: I just know what happens in the field is not always portrayed accuratly on TV 2012-08-23 21:39:50 Holyhellcat: No, Sam, I have just done about 5 trade shows and it has been really word of moth 2012-08-23 21:39:52 Samstwitch: Ghost Hunters is the only TV series on ghost hunting that I consider professional, and the only one that I watch. 2012-08-23 21:39:53 Holyhellcat: lol 2012-08-23 21:39:56 Holyhellcat: mouth 2012-08-23 21:40:26 trekie4ever: I actually love watching Ghost Adventures. Fake or not, the reactions are very funny lol 2012-08-23 21:40:41 TimeNot_0: I just tried to link to your website link, but I got google instead?? 2012-08-23 21:40:58 Samstwitch: It's only a matter of time then. I'll be anxious to hear about your product being used by mediums, GH's and people in that field. 2012-08-23 21:41:25 AtomicKangaroo: Well I respect that is your view Sam, but I myself feel it's a bunch of fakery in that show's case. any how, back on topic, Kimberli, is there any entity type you wouldn't recommend using ghoul b gone with? 2012-08-23 21:41:28 Holyhellcat: ??/ 2012-08-23 21:41:37 Holyhellcat: the main site is ghoulbgone.com 2012-08-23 21:42:06 TimeNot_0: Okay, a person can have two instances of a browser open. 2012-08-23 21:42:11 trekie4ever: Demonic Face on Weather Report Intro ---> That is interesting. Gotta love DVR 2012-08-23 21:42:14 Holyhellcat: no, it seems to work as Spirit intends for it to 2012-08-23 21:42:29 Samstwitch: So someone could actually start a real "Ghostbusters" business with Goul B Gone! :} 2012-08-23 21:42:35 AtomicKangaroo: Demon face was an ad for a TV show that got blended in with the broadcast. 2012-08-23 21:43:07 Holyhellcat: I just redesigned my wesite, the blog is new, I used to post some interesting stuff on my old site, I am gonna continue to do so on this new site 2012-08-23 21:43:23 opmmur: have you performed any exorcisms on people with this product 2012-08-23 21:43:37 Holyhellcat: oh, yeah, that sounds resonable... not 2012-08-23 21:43:40 trekie4ever: What sorts of entities do you have experience with? What kind of spirits are there...??? 2012-08-23 21:43:50 Holyhellcat: opmmur 2012-08-23 21:44:21 Holyhellcat: the product has cleared oppressions, but it takes a few uses and the persons needs to want to release the entity 2012-08-23 21:44:35 Holyhellcat: then the entity does not have a chance 2012-08-23 21:45:11 Holyhellcat: If the person does not want to relese, it takes more 2012-08-23 21:45:11 Traveler Malaki: have you ever destroyed entities with this product or other means before 2012-08-23 21:45:36 Holyhellcat: I do not know where they go when they are gone, but they are not in the space anymore 2012-08-23 21:46:07 Holyhellcat: I leave that up to the Spirit of the Creator 2012-08-23 21:46:31 opmmur: my experiences have been when you do an exorcism, you need to send that spirit someplace else or will return in a short time and you've accomplished nothing. Once you use the product orders the entity go. 2012-08-23 21:46:38 Holyhellcat: I feel Spirit had to have a reason for allowing this creation, and has a place for them as well 2012-08-23 21:47:17 Holyhellcat: That is up to the priest/practioner 2012-08-23 21:47:59 Holyhellcat: If I need to remove an entity, I send them into strong boxes. millions of layers deep, far away from the person I am working with 2012-08-23 21:48:12 Holyhellcat: And it also varies a bit person to person 2012-08-23 21:48:22 Holyhellcat: The spray is more like a repellent 2012-08-23 21:48:34 Holyhellcat: The candle is for when there is an attack 2012-08-23 21:48:41 opmmur: most people pick up on what I call grungy's and this product would be great for that. I'm very demonic that's a different story. 2012-08-23 21:48:59 AtomicKangaroo: so the product doesn't have an adverse effect on "good spirits"? I always wonder about that with ghostbusting methods, that do they work just effectively on the flipside, like Iron for example, that apparently harms ghosts, wouldn't a good ghost being made of the same "stuff" be just at risk as a bad one? 2012-08-23 21:49:12 Holyhellcat: That will send the entitiy away, in lockdown. and open the door for billions of legions of angels to take it away and keep it away 2012-08-23 21:49:23 Holyhellcat: where it goes i do not know, as i do not follow 2012-08-23 21:49:50 Holyhellcat: acctually the good spirits like it, it attracts them 2012-08-23 21:49:57 Traveler Malaki: If I feel that the entity is too dangerous then I make sure its destroyed, usually by dispersing it. It is made up of energy and by dispersing it that energy will be absorbed by the enviroment 2012-08-23 21:50:02 Holyhellcat: thins the veil and gives them energy 2012-08-23 21:50:26 Holyhellcat: if you look at the before and after pics you can see the protective entities coming in more clearly 2012-08-23 21:50:32 trekie4ever: entities can be destroyed? How do you disperse the energy? 2012-08-23 21:50:44 AtomicKangaroo: Off topic: Demon face Demonic Face Interrupts Breaking WSMV Weather Report, Haunts Your Dreams it was a promo for a show called the Grimm. 2012-08-23 21:50:59 trekie4ever: ok thanks 2012-08-23 21:51:03 Holyhellcat: Dispering is good, very good. Over time, it will collect itself back. 2012-08-23 21:51:08 opmmur: you do not destroy entities you handle them in an appropriate way,you could create Karma for yourself 2012-08-23 21:51:38 AtomicKangaroo: I wonder that also trekie, my understanding of science, is energy cannot be destroyed, only converted or dispersed, make me have hope I might have a soul capable of leaving my body at death 2012-08-23 21:52:07 trekie4ever: haha right... well my issue is that I seem to attract unwanted attention 2012-08-23 21:52:10 Holyhellcat: I got to see a photo, one that is under heavy lock and key 2012-08-23 21:52:23 Traveler Malaki: I never had bad karma from destroying an entity 2012-08-23 21:52:25 Holyhellcat: It was taken in a morgue 2012-08-23 21:52:44 Holyhellcat: They were snapping lots of photos because of a murder. 2012-08-23 21:53:05 Holyhellcat: In one of the photos they caught, what is believed to be the spirit leaving the body 2012-08-23 21:53:09 trekie4ever: what are all of your opinions on what have been called "shadow people?" 2012-08-23 21:53:11 Holyhellcat: It was beautiful 2012-08-23 21:53:40 Samstwitch: Where's the photo taken at the morgue? 2012-08-23 21:54:08 Holyhellcat: There was a main ball, but it reached out in many directions, and had swipes of coloful enegy reaching out in all directions 2012-08-23 21:54:17 Holyhellcat: yes it was in the autopsie room 2012-08-23 21:54:26 Holyhellcat: the guy had been dead for a few hours 2012-08-23 21:55:01 Samstwitch: where can we see the photo? Is it posted some where? 2012-08-23 21:55:02 Holyhellcat: A friend of mine who works with secret stuff showed me. I soooo begged him to let me make a copy, but he would not 2012-08-23 21:55:16 Holyhellcat: no it's under heavy lock and key 2012-08-23 21:55:25 AtomicKangaroo: Holyhellcat Sam, Kimberli already stated "see a photo, one that is under heavy lock and key" 2012-08-23 21:55:48 AtomicKangaroo: lol ok, weird, I didn;t write holyhellcat, or copy it then. 2012-08-23 21:55:52 Samstwitch: excuuuuse me! 2012-08-23 21:56:00 Holyhellcat: it's cool 2012-08-23 21:56:31 Holyhellcat: why the powers that be are so worried about us knowing about these things is just beyond me. they know about it 2012-08-23 21:56:34 AtomicKangaroo: I'll commincate online with you one day Kimberli without weird stuff happening, I swear lol 2012-08-23 21:57:02 Holyhellcat: i doubt it... lol! it's me, and they want me under lock and key! 2012-08-23 21:57:04 Samstwitch: maybe there's some mischievious spirits playing in this Chatroom 2012-08-23 21:57:26 trekie4ever: shadow people, walking black figures, in my experience a pretty negative impression... any thoughts? 2012-08-23 21:57:28 Holyhellcat: I would like to tell yall about an event happening Oct 20th in Hot Springs 2012-08-23 21:57:34 AtomicKangaroo: oh if you interact with Kimberli online over a few years, you'll see some weird stuff happen. 2012-08-23 21:58:02 Holyhellcat: Hot Springs is the largest natural deposit of crystals anywhere 2012-08-23 21:58:23 Holyhellcat: the week before the crystal skull will be there on display 2012-08-23 21:58:57 Holyhellcat: and the on the 20th according to native americian prophesy, 8844 people will gather hand in hand around the mountian 2012-08-23 21:59:27 Holyhellcat: and according to one of the Chief's a Motheship will give those in attendance codes 2012-08-23 21:59:49 Holyhellcat: It will, according to prophsey affect the mass conciousnees 2012-08-23 21:59:59 Holyhellcat: consider yourself invited to attend 2012-08-23 22:00:01 Samstwitch: Really? Wow, where can we find that prophecy? I'm always interested in that type of stuff. 2012-08-23 22:00:10 Holyhellcat: momenthotsprings.com 2012-08-23 22:00:16 Holyhellcat: i believe is the website 2012-08-23 22:00:22 kcwildman: so can anyone make this ghoul be gone or was it given to you for you 2012-08-23 22:00:31 Samstwitch: Sounds like the last Indiana Jones movie, with the crystal skulls and mothership! 2012-08-23 22:00:47 Holyhellcat: It was given to me, with date/time and latatude and longitude instructions 2012-08-23 22:00:57 Holyhellcat: I am sure anyone who is told to make it can 2012-08-23 22:01:16 AtomicKangaroo: now this isn;t one of those "invisible" motherships is it, that a few "special" people can only see? :| 2012-08-23 22:01:24 Samstwitch: Thanks for the link, that's it! 2012-08-23 22:01:47 Holyhellcat: I am sure if you can see it, you are special 2012-08-23 22:01:53 BlaqueJacques: where do those coordinates lead you to? 2012-08-23 22:02:21 Holyhellcat: Those who live only in a 3 dimensional reality will not beable to see it, nor will they matter, or attend unless it is by accident I am sure 2012-08-23 22:03:02 Holyhellcat: It lead me to a body of water, the date happened to be a religios holiday and the stars were in an interesting alignment that day 2012-08-23 22:03:36 Traveler Malaki: is this a physical mothership, or does it reside out of phase with this dimension 2012-08-23 22:03:39 Holyhellcat: so how many people here have worked with exorcisims? 2012-08-23 22:03:42 BlaqueJacques: easter water? 2012-08-23 22:03:54 Holyhellcat: 2012-08-23 22:03:59 AtomicKangaroo: I'd guess outside of our dimension, they always do :| 2012-08-23 22:04:01 Holyhellcat: close 2012-08-23 22:04:24 Holyhellcat: Roo... 50 htz.. mean anything to you? 2012-08-23 22:04:50 AtomicKangaroo: yep, it's a common RC toy frequency. 2012-08-23 22:04:54 trekie4ever: i have not dealt with exorcisms, but I have dealt with malvolent spirits 2012-08-23 22:05:07 Traveler Malaki: I done exorcisms 2012-08-23 22:05:07 trekie4ever: and I can see when someone is afflicted and/or possessed 2012-08-23 22:05:14 Holyhellcat: and it is more than that we will talk later 2012-08-23 22:05:26 AtomicKangaroo: sure thing, you know where to find me 2012-08-23 22:05:31 Holyhellcat: Traveler, what prompts you? 2012-08-23 22:06:00 Traveler Malaki: What do you mean, like how I do exorcisms or how do I view them? 2012-08-23 22:06:07 AtomicKangaroo: although for some reason I just thought of HAARP for some reason. 2012-08-23 22:06:19 Holyhellcat: I am asking... do you do it because you encounter it, or do you have some internal permissions? 2012-08-23 22:07:06 Holyhellcat: I find exocisims tricky in that Spirit does not give me permission to attack all that I encounter 2012-08-23 22:07:17 Traveler Malaki: I do it because I encounter it, being taken over by another entity is not something good to experience and is harmful even to both 2012-08-23 22:07:32 Holyhellcat: But, yet, when I have the good to go, that entitiy does not have a chance 2012-08-23 22:07:50 trekie4ever: That's what it's like for me Hellcat 2012-08-23 22:07:59 opmmur: I'm happy you touched on permission to do exorcisms. That is a key to success. 2012-08-23 22:08:11 Holyhellcat: But some people have made contracts and if you remove the one entity, you open the door for more to come thru. I have seen it 2012-08-23 22:08:22 Holyhellcat: and possesion is at an all time high 2012-08-23 22:08:32 trekie4ever: i think it is the music 2012-08-23 22:08:42 Holyhellcat: Our numbers, those of us who can handle it are few and far between 2012-08-23 22:08:49 AtomicKangaroo: music? 2012-08-23 22:08:57 Holyhellcat: dude.. it's everything 2012-08-23 22:08:57 trekie4ever: I think music is a great doorway 2012-08-23 22:09:13 Holyhellcat: tv, internet, chemicials, cell phone towers 2012-08-23 22:09:19 Holyhellcat: haarp 2012-08-23 22:09:23 trekie4ever: yah 2012-08-23 22:09:30 Samstwitch: Agreed! Today it's everything! 2012-08-23 22:09:34 Holyhellcat: but the wekness in the humans is desire 2012-08-23 22:09:36 trekie4ever: do you see a difference between affliction and possession? 2012-08-23 22:09:42 Holyhellcat: yes 2012-08-23 22:09:52 Holyhellcat: opperssion there is no contract 2012-08-23 22:09:56 opmmur: there is a lot of reason why possessions are at an all time high. Around 1975 or 1980 those that have been born since that tend to be heavily processed in some cases. 2012-08-23 22:09:58 Traveler Malaki: What I do is I either send the entity far away, disperse/destroy it or send it to its dimension and I put a shield around the person so no other entities can come in 2012-08-23 22:09:59 Holyhellcat: the human has not givin in 2012-08-23 22:10:05 Traveler Malaki: and I show them how to resist it too 2012-08-23 22:10:37 Samstwitch: Prof, what do you mean, "heavily processed"? 2012-08-23 22:10:39 Holyhellcat: helping people with their shields is so nessicary as we can not be with them 24/7 2012-08-23 22:11:19 Holyhellcat: some I believe are coming in possesed 2012-08-23 22:11:20 trekie4ever: I think another huge issue in the overwhelming amounts of affliction and possession is that we are told from the time we are born we are weak, fragile, and at the mercy of spirits and demons 2012-08-23 22:11:29 Traveler Malaki: Have you ever meet someone who got possessed by another persons astral body? 2012-08-23 22:11:31 Holyhellcat: agreed 2012-08-23 22:11:32 opmmur: Shield protection with the gold for the white light is critical 2012-08-23 22:11:33 trekie4ever: generational 2012-08-23 22:11:44 trekie4ever: a lot of spirits are generational 2012-08-23 22:12:01 trekie4ever: sometimes they skip a group, like grandparents to grandchildren 2012-08-23 22:12:02 Traveler Malaki: Like say for instance I astral project and take over your body, ever see a case like that 2012-08-23 22:12:03 Holyhellcat: but more than ever, you have these organic portals coming in, no soul, just pure evil 2012-08-23 22:12:09 Holyhellcat: then the indigos 2012-08-23 22:12:16 Holyhellcat: balence in all things 2012-08-23 22:12:18 AtomicKangaroo: My methods are a bit more uncoventional. I think I had an encounter with something a while back, and I just told it to piss off and I wasn't going to take it's crap. The weirdness then stopped. Still I cannot say if it were real or imagined. 2012-08-23 22:12:24 trekie4ever: indigos? 2012-08-23 22:12:31 trekie4ever: organic portals? 2012-08-23 22:12:51 trekie4ever: googling... 2012-08-23 22:12:57 Holyhellcat: organic portal would be a human that is an empty vessel, no soul 2012-08-23 22:13:22 Samstwitch: like a human-alien hybrid? 2012-08-23 22:13:29 Holyhellcat: indigo's are these special children that have been coming in since the mid 80's that are super souls 2012-08-23 22:13:38 Holyhellcat: yes Sam 2012-08-23 22:13:40 Samstwitch: I wonder if human-alien hybrids have souls. 2012-08-23 22:13:42 Holyhellcat: I believe so 2012-08-23 22:13:53 Traveler Malaki: They do Sam, just alien souls 2012-08-23 22:14:00 Holyhellcat: but i do not know what these organic portals are for sure 2012-08-23 22:14:24 Samstwitch: My oldest son is an Indigo Child. Many people told him he was. 2012-08-23 22:14:25 Holyhellcat: I have seen plenty of them, when I reach out energticly, there is just nothing there 2012-08-23 22:14:32 Samstwitch: That's how we learned about Indigo. 2012-08-23 22:14:52 trekie4ever: What is he like Sam? 2012-08-23 22:15:03 opmmur: don't forget about the crystal kids 2012-08-23 22:15:04 AtomicKangaroo: if souls exist, then it makes sense any thing with a degree of sentinence of intelligence would contain one I think. Especially as for me a soul would just be a living organisms electrical system. 2012-08-23 22:15:13 Traveler Malaki: Holyhellcat are you talking about seeing nothing there in the hybrids? 2012-08-23 22:15:16 Traveler Malaki: or portals 2012-08-23 22:15:29 trekie4ever: portals 2012-08-23 22:15:50 trekie4ever: Do you watch the show Supernatural? They showed a great example of what a person may be like without a soul 2012-08-23 22:15:54 Samstwitch: Hmm, well he's extremely highly intelligent with photographic memory. He's very loving and giving, helps people and animals all the time. He had a car accident once avoiding running over a squirrel. 2012-08-23 22:16:14 HDRKID: I believe hybrids have souls. 2012-08-23 22:16:24 Samstwitch: He can also see spirits...and he's gay. 2012-08-23 22:16:39 Traveler Malaki: aliens, hybrids, etc all have souls 2012-08-23 22:16:44 AtomicKangaroo: yeah supernatural is always watched in this house, the vampire series Angel also had a good episode about a souless kid, possessed by a demon who found it horrifying to be trapped in such a being. 2012-08-23 22:16:54 Holyhellcat: all? 2012-08-23 22:17:11 opmmur: not all aliens have souls 2012-08-23 22:17:24 trekie4ever: an alien is simply something not from this earth 2012-08-23 22:17:26 Traveler Malaki: well not the organic robot kind (Greys) 2012-08-23 22:17:31 Holyhellcat: wouldn't the hybrid be dependant on the dna and procedures used 2012-08-23 22:17:37 Samstwitch: Want to hear more about hybrids...no souls? 2012-08-23 22:17:45 Holyhellcat: which would have to differ from different races of beings 2012-08-23 22:17:51 JasperMoon: why do some aliens not have souls? 2012-08-23 22:18:18 Samstwitch: Have any of you read/heard about the little black box that aliens snatch and put souls into, then into cloned bodies? Sounds crazy I know, but abductees have talked about it. 2012-08-23 22:18:22 Numenorean7: How do we know if some aliens have a soul, and others don't? 2012-08-23 22:18:24 opmmur: some aliens are quite demonic 2012-08-23 22:18:54 trekie4ever: I think a soul is a blend between a spirit and our physical bodies 2012-08-23 22:18:56 HDRKID: Robots do not have souls 2012-08-23 22:18:59 Traveler Malaki: well from what I have done in my research most of the aliens people encounter be they dwarves (they may be a type of semi-physical spirit instead), Greys, etc are all creations/provolves/cybernetic organisms created by another alien species 2012-08-23 22:19:02 trekie4ever: It all comes down to the definition of a "soul" 2012-08-23 22:19:07 Holyhellcat: syes 2012-08-23 22:19:11 Samstwitch: I think Greys are workers, and Reptilian are devils. 2012-08-23 22:19:20 trekie4ever: I think spirits do not have souls 2012-08-23 22:19:24 trekie4ever: in general 2012-08-23 22:19:25 Holyhellcat: i feel a soul as a certian frequency of energy 2012-08-23 22:19:31 AtomicKangaroo: I have heard of cross transfer of souls, not exactly astral travel as mentioned, but a guy on TV talking about ow he wasn't the man who originally wnet in for some surgery, that he swapped places with the original occupant who was tired of living. He seemed to have a lot of knowledge of the person he claimed he had become. Then on another note we have genetic memory. Organ transplant recipients showing personality traits of the donor. 2012-08-23 22:19:42 Holyhellcat: Has anyone here meet a reptillian? 2012-08-23 22:19:44 Traveler Malaki: spirits are souls outside the body 2012-08-23 22:19:47 Traveler Malaki: Yes 2012-08-23 22:19:51 HDRKID: yes 2012-08-23 22:19:52 Traveler Malaki: I have met one 2012-08-23 22:19:55 Holyhellcat: Me too 2012-08-23 22:20:08 Samstwitch: You talking about a "Walk-in" Roo? 2012-08-23 22:20:09 Traveler Malaki: I got along with this one pretty well 2012-08-23 22:20:14 cmac: If I have, I have no conscious memory of it 2012-08-23 22:20:15 Holyhellcat: I used to run, but not anymore. I have the confidence to stand my ground with them 2012-08-23 22:20:33 trekie4ever: Reptillian? 2012-08-23 22:20:34 JasperMoon: how are they really 2012-08-23 22:20:35 Samstwitch: Reptillian? No way and hope never to. Scary! 2012-08-23 22:20:37 opmmur: yes I have met it reptilian, see posting under UFOs 2012-08-23 22:20:50 trekie4ever: What is a reptillian? 2012-08-23 22:20:57 cmac: how was your experience opmmur? 2012-08-23 22:21:12 AtomicKangaroo: not really but yes I guess Sam, I consider walk ins to be physical beings entering from another plane of exsistence. This was a soul taking over the body of a guy during surgery who had decided he wanted to check out so they did a mutual soul swap. 2012-08-23 22:21:20 Holyhellcat: in my opinion, reptillians have the potential to be worse than any demon 2012-08-23 22:21:31 AtomicKangaroo: I'd love to meet a reptillian 2012-08-23 22:21:34 JasperMoon: Are some of them good reptilians or are they all bad 2012-08-23 22:21:34 Traveler Malaki: What some of the hybrids are is alien consciousnesses residing alongside human ones, influencing the human one to do things like go into the military, politics, intelligence services, etc 2012-08-23 22:21:35 Samstwitch: Pls share about Reps...I'm curious about them,I think they're demonic. 2012-08-23 22:21:48 Holyhellcat: Roo, I have seen the walk in, soul body swap 2012-08-23 22:21:54 Samstwitch: I should have said, I think Reps are the devil. I do! 2012-08-23 22:22:00 Traveler Malaki: I think the aliens have their own demons too 2012-08-23 22:22:32 Traveler Malaki: The Repts have their own legends and myths about what we call Gods, Demons, etc 2012-08-23 22:23:15 Holyhellcat: Of the ones I have meet I can say not all are bad. Demonic entities seem to have a charisma about them, and thrive on chaos rep's are more under orders and agenda based. 2012-08-23 22:23:23 trekie4ever: can someone link me to the post? I'm pretty new here 2012-08-23 22:23:25 Samstwitch: In the Bible, the devil is described as a Reptilian. 2012-08-23 22:23:48 Traveler Malaki: The Repts have many factions/nations 2012-08-23 22:23:59 JasperMoon: I have to go tonight have to work in the morning see you guys later 2012-08-23 22:23:59 AtomicKangaroo: I think Roswell brought about people talking abou reptilians I think. That government worker who apparently spoke with the little grey dude telepathically, apparently mentioned reptillian races while he was in the nut house, that he was told they use earth, like many other alien races as a petri dish to mess around with. 2012-08-23 22:23:59 Samstwitch: And what if that's what a Reptilian is? But today he doesn't have the name 'devil'... 2012-08-23 22:24:00 Holyhellcat: yes, they do 2012-08-23 22:24:14 Samstwitch: by JM 2012-08-23 22:24:17 Traveler Malaki: as do their biological and robotic creations which rebeled against them 2012-08-23 22:25:03 Traveler Malaki: already we are genetically engineering rats and mice to become smarter, in a hundred years we can genetically engineer them to be tall bipeds like us with similar brain capacity 2012-08-23 22:25:09 Holyhellcat: Sam, all the demonic entities I have encountered have to ride a human. Reptillians seem to have their bodies 2012-08-23 22:25:26 Traveler Malaki: I am sure demons can posess repts too 2012-08-23 22:25:54 AtomicKangaroo: gee could you imagine having an intelligent cat or dog, it'd be all "feed me feed me, play play" lol would drive a person nuts. GM needs banning just for that reason 2012-08-23 22:25:55 Samstwitch: Yes, demons have to possess someone or something as they don't have a body. But Reps have a body! 2012-08-23 22:26:06 opmmur: my experience was that the reptilian was human in form. 2012-08-23 22:26:31 Numenorean7: Are all reptilians shape shifters? 2012-08-23 22:26:33 Holyhellcat: op, mine as well 2012-08-23 22:26:34 Samstwitch: Jesus said, a house cannot be divded against itself, so going by that, I don't think a demon could possess a Reptilian...but I could be wrong. 2012-08-23 22:26:42 Traveler Malaki: Reptillian shapeshifting is actually a technology 2012-08-23 22:26:47 Traveler Malaki: instead of a biological process 2012-08-23 22:26:53 Holyhellcat: Num, the ones I have meet, yes 2012-08-23 22:26:55 cmac: opmmur? did this human looking reptilian have any characteristics or a feel about them that was a lot different than a typical human? 2012-08-23 22:27:04 Traveler Malaki: they use a very advanced form of holography to disguise themselves 2012-08-23 22:27:15 AtomicKangaroo: Yeah I don;t think any physical being with a skeleton could shape shift. Not to a degree of resembling another species any way 2012-08-23 22:27:18 opmmur: not all ripped aliens are shape shifters depends on which group and there are many reptilian groups 2012-08-23 22:27:19 Holyhellcat: Traveler.. that so explains it! 2012-08-23 22:27:40 cmac: good point opmmur 2012-08-23 22:27:41 TimeNot_0: V back in the '80's TV show was about Reps 2012-08-23 22:27:49 Traveler Malaki: a technology we are already advancing well on 2012-08-23 22:27:54 Holyhellcat: So maybe possibly the shoadow people are Reps learning how to use their holigraphic capibilities? 2012-08-23 22:28:07 AtomicKangaroo: Seeing the make up jobs we get in hollywood now, that for me seems more reasonable than holo projection, the old V's, aliens in rubber masks. 2012-08-23 22:28:09 Traveler Malaki: Shadow people are a type of entity 2012-08-23 22:28:17 trekie4ever: yes, what are shadow people 2012-08-23 22:28:18 Traveler Malaki: they are like a phasic creature 2012-08-23 22:28:22 Samstwitch: In the Apocrypha books of Adam and Eve, the devil took on many forms, hence shapeshifter. 2012-08-23 22:28:26 trekie4ever: and this reptillian thing is interesting 2012-08-23 22:28:33 Traveler Malaki: and reside on some type of 'dark matter' dark energy plane of existance 2012-08-23 22:28:35 Traveler Malaki: but come here 2012-08-23 22:28:42 Holyhellcat: could shadow people also be astral projections? 2012-08-23 22:28:42 Traveler Malaki: I have had no problems with them 2012-08-23 22:28:45 AtomicKangaroo: but the devil is an energy being no? 2012-08-23 22:28:47 Traveler Malaki: they just go out their business 2012-08-23 22:28:47 trekie4ever: I had one standing over my bed in May 2012-08-23 22:29:00 trekie4ever: around 315 am 2012-08-23 22:29:03 trekie4ever: I woke up 2012-08-23 22:29:05 AtomicKangaroo: he doesn;t actually shape shift, but would be capable of projecting such an image into a persons mind????? 2012-08-23 22:29:08 trekie4ever: and saw it standing right over me 2012-08-23 22:29:10 Holyhellcat: And some Rep;s are only observers 2012-08-23 22:29:22 trekie4ever: It walked to the doorway. Stopped, turned its head and looked back at me 2012-08-23 22:29:24 Traveler Malaki: Depends on the faction of Rep your dealing with 2012-08-23 22:29:25 Samstwitch: The devil has a body. 2012-08-23 22:29:30 Samstwitch: and a soul 2012-08-23 22:29:32 opmmur: I have often believed that shadow people could possibly be real human beings in astral projection form 2012-08-23 22:29:46 trekie4ever: climbed the stares to the main floor, and stopped at the stop of the landing, looked back at me again, then walked out of site into the kitchen 2012-08-23 22:29:57 trekie4ever: before it happened I heard a voice in my head saying 2012-08-23 22:29:58 Traveler Malaki: Shadow people could also be that too 2012-08-23 22:30:08 TimeNot_0: 4ever, was that a Rep or a Shadow? 2012-08-23 22:30:14 trekie4ever: shadow 2012-08-23 22:30:18 trekie4ever: walking shadow 2012-08-23 22:30:26 Samstwitch: I think Shadow people are just the same as ghosts, spirits 2012-08-23 22:30:28 trekie4ever: had depth, had a gait to its step 2012-08-23 22:30:30 AtomicKangaroo: The Christo/Judo God scares me more than the devil. I think he's way more evil. 2012-08-23 22:30:37 Holyhellcat: Shadow people creep me out, but never bother me. Since I have been making Ghoul B gone I have yet to see another one 2012-08-23 22:30:54 Samstwitch: course they could also be people who are astral projecting...could be both 2012-08-23 22:31:07 trekie4ever: voice one said with a voice trying to imitate my own, "I (as in me) am the Devil" then a louder voice said "No I'm the Devil" 2012-08-23 22:31:16 trekie4ever: and that's when I opened my eyes and saw the figure 2012-08-23 22:31:32 Traveler Malaki: I think the main factions of Repts are not really hostile, they see humanity as a reflection of them, with similar technological progress 2012-08-23 22:31:43 Samstwitch: God is not evil. He's pure goodness. 2012-08-23 22:31:52 trekie4ever: God is above good and evil 2012-08-23 22:31:58 cmac: Seems that shadow people are likely multiple possibilities 2012-08-23 22:32:00 AtomicKangaroo: He just likes smiting people for being how he created them right? lol 2012-08-23 22:32:08 cmac: hard to pinpoint what is going on with shadow people 2012-08-23 22:32:11 Samstwitch: That's interesting! about shadow people and goul b gone. 2012-08-23 22:32:13 Traveler Malaki: The Repts suffered wars, holocausts, rebellions by robotic creations, cyber organic creations, etc 2012-08-23 22:32:23 HDRKID: God is not evil, but some people are. 2012-08-23 22:32:34 Traveler Malaki: I think God and the Devil are actually two sides of the same coin, thats how I see it 2012-08-23 22:32:35 trekie4ever: What is evil but what WE say is evil? 2012-08-23 22:32:50 Samstwitch: Trekie, were you dreaming or was it real? 2012-08-23 22:32:51 AtomicKangaroo: that's it Trekie, eye of the beholder and all that 2012-08-23 22:32:57 trekie4ever: It was real 2012-08-23 22:33:23 trekie4ever: I was jaw dropped as I watched it walk out my room 2012-08-23 22:33:40 trekie4ever: I didn't know what to do... I've seen things before 2012-08-23 22:33:42 trekie4ever: but not like that 2012-08-23 22:33:47 Holyhellcat: encounted so humble a person 2012-08-23 22:33:48 AtomicKangaroo: good point Sam, I wonder if people are not properly awake when they see these things, I've often been in such a state myself, I feel it was sleep paralysis mixed with a half concious mind that has created what I've seen or felt at that moment. 2012-08-23 22:33:49 TimeNot_0: 4ever you were not fully awake though but in a different frame of mind at the time? 2012-08-23 22:34:00 opmmur: Good Night my Chat Friends 2012-08-23 22:34:12 trekie4ever: I was asleep at first 2012-08-23 22:34:25 Samstwitch: Scary stuff! I would be calling out to Jesus! 2012-08-23 22:34:25 trekie4ever: then i was in a daze when I heard the voices 2012-08-23 22:34:41 trekie4ever: like, everything was hazy 2012-08-23 22:34:45 trekie4ever: then i opened my eyes 2012-08-23 22:34:56 Traveler Malaki: What was the scariest entity any of you ever encountered? 2012-08-23 22:34:57 Samstwitch: night professor 2012-08-23 22:35:00 trekie4ever: Jaw dropped, adrenaline pumping and just scared 2012-08-23 22:35:05 Holyhellcat: When you call Jesus, may I suggest you use the latin 2012-08-23 22:35:08 Samstwitch: just missed him 2012-08-23 22:35:11 cmac: that's intense Trekie 2012-08-23 22:35:12 Holyhellcat: It is way more powerful 2012-08-23 22:35:25 trekie4ever: Yah, hellcat I'm usually pretty good and telling things to leave 2012-08-23 22:35:33 trekie4ever: but that time I was completely frozen 2012-08-23 22:35:34 Holyhellcat: 2012-08-23 22:35:41 AtomicKangaroo: I wonder if we sometimes make ourselves believe. I mean I'll feel fine, watch a horror movie, or a paranormal show and all of a sudden I'm getting shivers and looking around out the corner of my eye. The human mind can be a trippy thing, we know so little about it and ourselves. 2012-08-23 22:35:43 Samstwitch: Oh I've called out to Jesus when I was on the brink of some serious stuff and it always works! What is the latin? 2012-08-23 22:35:54 Samstwitch: Yahweh? 2012-08-23 22:35:54 Holyhellcat: generally, that is all it takes, when your heart and mind are strong in these matters 2012-08-23 22:35:56 cmac: Use what? Holy hellcat? what should we say for protection? 2012-08-23 22:36:01 trekie4ever: Yahweh is the Hebrew 2012-08-23 22:36:14 trekie4ever: I think that would be more powerful and that's moreso God 2012-08-23 22:36:20 trekie4ever: Jesus is Yeshua 2012-08-23 22:36:22 Holyhellcat: Nomini Nostri Jesu Kristie 2012-08-23 22:36:44 trekie4ever: There is no 'J' in hebrew 2012-08-23 22:36:57 trekie4ever: so it's a pretty loose transliteration to what we use now 2012-08-23 22:37:03 Samstwitch: We have a scholar here! 2012-08-23 22:37:21 trekie4ever: when you've been tormented by spirits since before you can remember... 2012-08-23 22:37:21 Samstwitch: couple of scholars! 2012-08-23 22:37:27 trekie4ever: you read a lot of stuff 2012-08-23 22:37:43 AtomicKangaroo: A question, if you were a buddist, would you still call for Jesus? I've wondered that about schizophrenics as well, many I have met say they see Jesus, but thhey've always been caucasian raised in a christian society, I'd like to meet say Asian schizophrenic and see if they see Jesus too. 2012-08-23 22:38:05 Holyhellcat: I may not have spelled it right, but that is how it sounds 2012-08-23 22:38:21 trekie4ever: the schizophrenics i've met are Afflicted 2012-08-23 22:38:25 trekie4ever: they aren't crazy... 2012-08-23 22:38:34 Holyhellcat: agreed 2012-08-23 22:38:45 Samstwitch: I've read many books about people who have seen and met Jesus, who knew nothing about him. Examples: Read "The Boy Who Met Jesus" and look up Akiana Kramarik. 2012-08-23 22:38:48 trekie4ever: those poor girls 2012-08-23 22:38:56 trekie4ever: childhood schizophrenia 2012-08-23 22:38:58 AtomicKangaroo: well the ones I've met, I think were, physical damage from hard drugs in most cases. 2012-08-23 22:39:00 trekie4ever: they aren't crazy 2012-08-23 22:39:11 Traveler Malaki: Other cultures will call on their Gods or whatever to remove bad entities 2012-08-23 22:39:17 Holyhellcat: hard drugs is an affliction 2012-08-23 22:39:19 trekie4ever: http://www.oprah.com/showinfo/Exclusive-The-7-Year-Old-Schizophrenic 2012-08-23 22:39:40 AtomicKangaroo: lost me at http://www.oprah! 2012-08-23 22:39:46 Holyhellcat: has anyone read the Book of Enoch? 2012-08-23 22:39:48 AtomicKangaroo: but I'll take a look 2012-08-23 22:39:52 trekie4ever: i have it 2012-08-23 22:39:57 trekie4ever: i've read through it 2012-08-23 22:39:58 Samstwitch: Me! 2012-08-23 22:39:58 AtomicKangaroo: I've heard of it 2012-08-23 22:39:59 trekie4ever: John Dee 2012-08-23 22:40:05 Holyhellcat: When God was asked which one was really him, he said the all are one 2012-08-23 22:40:20 trekie4ever: Traveler, I think the most important thing is faith and belief 2012-08-23 22:40:26 Holyhellcat: what a powerfull book! 2012-08-23 22:40:30 trekie4ever: that you have power and are in touch with something Divine 2012-08-23 22:40:37 AtomicKangaroo: something I admit I lack, I am a see for myself guy. 2012-08-23 22:40:51 Traveler Malaki: yes that is right 2012-08-23 22:41:18 trekie4ever: when ya look at it simply like that 2012-08-23 22:41:19 Traveler Malaki: I think thats what it was the Repts were refing too when they said their God was more along the lines of the entire unviersal structure 2012-08-23 22:41:21 Holyhellcat: When you are in touch with the Spirit of the Creator, and KNOW it for what it is, nothing can concuer you 2012-08-23 22:41:24 trekie4ever: it doesn't matter what you call God 2012-08-23 22:41:36 trekie4ever: I can start praying to Frank if I want 2012-08-23 22:41:47 cmac: agreed Holyhellcat 2012-08-23 22:41:48 trekie4ever: if that's my personal name for the Divine 2012-08-23 22:41:48 Holyhellcat: lol 2012-08-23 22:42:18 Traveler Malaki: Pray to Worf and his Klingon Bat'leth to slay the demons lol 2012-08-23 22:42:24 AtomicKangaroo: Well if you have read the old testament, the Jewish?Christian god even says there are other gods, just that he claimes to be the biggest and best. I find a lot of Christians don't realise this. 2012-08-23 22:42:29 Holyhellcat: And if the Creator gives you a mission, it can turn your life into something worth living! 2012-08-23 22:42:30 trekie4ever: lol 2012-08-23 22:42:33 trekie4ever: KAHN!! 2012-08-23 22:42:44 Samstwitch: On the other hand, names are important in the Bible. God gave people special names, like Abram was changed to Abraham, etc. 2012-08-23 22:43:07 cmac: I'm hoping to better know my mission here soon 2012-08-23 22:43:08 trekie4ever: yes, i think there is a vibration certain sounds can make 2012-08-23 22:43:16 Samstwitch: Roo, you are right! Most people don't realize that fact. 2012-08-23 22:43:19 AtomicKangaroo: yep, this is why according to revelations we lose our names and will be given one that only the big guy knows himself. 2012-08-23 22:43:34 trekie4ever: but an adept.... someone already in tune with the universe.... can vibrate just with meaning and thoughts 2012-08-23 22:44:51 Holyhellcat: that is why i use latin, it has a more powerful vibration 2012-08-23 22:45:00 Samstwitch: Makes sense. 2012-08-23 22:45:06 Holyhellcat: from what i not only understand, but feel 2012-08-23 22:45:20 trekie4ever: i would imagine aramaic or even the sumerian language would vibrate stronger than latin 2012-08-23 22:45:32 Holyhellcat: frequencies and thoughts turn into manifestations 2012-08-23 22:45:38 cmac: yep 2012-08-23 22:45:49 Samstwitch: Well it is said that the Bible lost a lot in translation from Hebrew to English and other languages...there is power in words, names included. 2012-08-23 22:46:01 Holyhellcat: yes 2012-08-23 22:46:05 AtomicKangaroo: circles and waves are what fascinate me, I think there is more to waves than vibrations. I can see more examples of waves in the universe than vibration. and everything seems to be circular. 2012-08-23 22:46:06 TimeNot_0: They spoke Aramaic back then did they not? 2012-08-23 22:46:10 Samstwitch: There is also the Heavenly language when speaking in Tongues. 2012-08-23 22:46:21 Holyhellcat: has anyone read the Gospel of Thomas? 2012-08-23 22:46:31 Samstwitch: Hebrew, Greek, Aramaic... I think?? 2012-08-23 22:46:37 Samstwitch: Yes 2012-08-23 22:46:46 Samstwitch: I have it and the other Apocryphas. 2012-08-23 22:46:49 trekie4ever: jesus' native tounge was aramaic 2012-08-23 22:46:49 Holyhellcat: and remeber lol... the devil is a smooth talker 2012-08-23 22:47:05 Holyhellcat: then it would have to be powerful 2012-08-23 22:47:13 AtomicKangaroo: my concern is, if noone understands tongues, how do we know the person isn't just having a seizure and speaking gibberish? 2012-08-23 22:47:13 trekie4ever: Talitha cumi 2012-08-23 22:47:17 Samstwitch: I don't think so...but couldn't swear to it. I thought it was Hebrew. 2012-08-23 22:47:27 trekie4ever: translation, little girl, arise 2012-08-23 22:47:35 trekie4ever: only aramaic words in our todays Bible 2012-08-23 22:47:41 Holyhellcat: the reson I was told to use latin is because the frequencies and harmonics of the engish word Jesus have been hyjacked 2012-08-23 22:47:42 Samstwitch: Roo, that's why the Scriptures say, do not speak in tongues publicly, unless there is an interpreter. 2012-08-23 22:47:47 TimeNot_0: Nope, as far as I know it was Aramaic back then 2012-08-23 22:48:36 TimeNot_0: translation of the Bible in the greek language is hard to do and mistakes are made 2012-08-23 22:48:46 Samstwitch: The language in the movie, The Passion of the Christ, is what Jesus spoke. 2012-08-23 22:48:46 trekie4ever: lol I think that's because... no one would understand me if I was speaking in english to a bunch of people who speak Spanish lol 2012-08-23 22:49:09 Holyhellcat: I believe the books that were left out blow alot of what is in King James out of the water. KJ was complied by man and they left out what did not suit their agenda 2012-08-23 22:49:32 AtomicKangaroo: ok the million dollar question, why do none of these supreme beings ever make themselves publicly known? It's always revealed to a few out of site and never any physical proof. Just if we're made in any gods image, I'd think how we humans are a god would say yo! here I am, now cut your shit out and behave!!! 2012-08-23 22:49:38 TimeNot_0: they all have left things out of the Bible 2012-08-23 22:50:02 Samstwitch: I don't believe everything in the book of Thomas. It says Jesus killed someone when he was a child. But Jesus never sinned or broke any of God's commandments...so I don't believe the Book of Thomas bc of that for one. 2012-08-23 22:50:08 AtomicKangaroo: why is it always mystery and having faith? 2012-08-23 22:50:16 Traveler Malaki: I thin we could be Gods ourselves in a fashion 2012-08-23 22:50:20 Holyhellcat: Roo, first you have to have faith, prove yourself. lol you have it backwards 2012-08-23 22:50:23 Samstwitch: But I believe most of the other Apocryphas. 2012-08-23 22:50:25 trekie4ever: i think we are Traveler 2012-08-23 22:50:27 Traveler Malaki: after we create other beings to serve and practically worship us 2012-08-23 22:50:34 Samstwitch: And the Catholic Church teaches out of them in Catechism 2012-08-23 22:50:42 trekie4ever: i heard it best said like this... God is the ocean, we are the droplets of water 2012-08-23 22:50:57 AtomicKangaroo: I think with any scripture it comes down to the interpretation by the reader. I can read a passage and see it completely different to you, hence having so many churches under the same religious beliefs. 2012-08-23 22:51:03 trekie4ever: God is the mountain, we are the pebbles 2012-08-23 22:51:23 trekie4ever: Man, the state of religion is awful 2012-08-23 22:51:26 Samstwitch: We were made in God's image...the one true God. 2012-08-23 22:51:34 AtomicKangaroo: problem is, they never use straight speak, it's always parables and such. 2012-08-23 22:51:37 Holyhellcat: Yes, trekie it is 2012-08-23 22:51:40 trekie4ever: It's a big ponzi scheme 2012-08-23 22:51:47 trekie4ever: I wish I had got in on some of that action 2012-08-23 22:51:50 Samstwitch: TN, yes they have left a LOT of things out of the Bible 2012-08-23 22:51:54 Holyhellcat: I believe it has been doctored to cause chaos 2012-08-23 22:52:03 Holyhellcat: that would be demonic interference 2012-08-23 22:52:13 trekie4ever: demonic and just plan ol human greed 2012-08-23 22:52:19 Samstwitch: Read "The Lost Books of the Bible and the Forgotten Books of Eden"...it contains most of the Apocryphas, including Enoch. 2012-08-23 22:52:21 trekie4ever: not everything is demonic or satan 2012-08-23 22:52:24 Holyhellcat: we need to be in touch with the Creator ourselves, not in touch with a book 2012-08-23 22:52:29 trekie4ever: Book of enoch was great 2012-08-23 22:52:32 TimeNot_0: that would be wisdom to them though not demonic 2012-08-23 22:52:33 trekie4ever: and Book of judas 2012-08-23 22:52:44 AtomicKangaroo: well considering many ancient texts had holes, you have to expect at times they've filled in the blanks incorrectly, and being humans, no doubt to serve their cause and beliefs at times. 2012-08-23 22:52:45 trekie4ever: I still need to get ahold of mary magdelene and thomas 2012-08-23 22:53:08 Holyhellcat: I have not read MM but I have heard it is powerful 2012-08-23 22:53:23 trekie4ever: i think the books are the tools of the Divine to wake us up 2012-08-23 22:53:32 Samstwitch: Jesus explained the Parables. 2012-08-23 22:53:51 trekie4ever: For example.... God never shows his face to a man. The closest was Moses and he aged just from seeing God's back 2012-08-23 22:54:03 trekie4ever: We aren't ready to be given everything 2012-08-23 22:54:07 trekie4ever: We have to seek for ourselves 2012-08-23 22:54:13 trekie4ever: hence... grab a book and read 2012-08-23 22:54:28 trekie4ever: or get up and do 2012-08-23 22:54:29 Holyhellcat: Once you have a knowing, you operate from knowledge and experience rather than the lessons of a book. 2012-08-23 22:54:29 TimeNot_0: Dead Sea Scrolls? 2012-08-23 22:55:13 TimeNot_0: Shroud of Turin? 2012-08-23 22:55:16 trekie4ever: a knowing? If a person is still on this earth living and suffering... nothing is truly known to them 2012-08-23 22:55:30 trekie4ever: there's no harm from reading books even if one is 'experienced' 2012-08-23 22:55:39 AtomicKangaroo: Like walking on water, I recall an Australian Nun being able to study the dead sea scrolls them before they became public, and she interpreted it as this. Rabbi's back in the day weren't dunked like ordinary folk for baptism, and they walked out onto a pier and back, this was called walking on water. Of course humans being a superstitous bunch beleived anyone not working for god would get fried if they did it. Jesus came along did it and "walked on water" he didn't get fried so it made him seem like he must be an agent of god in their simple minds. Her conclusion was basically Jesus was a political activist of his time nothing more. and well she was a nun..... 2012-08-23 22:56:41 AtomicKangaroo: you can see this on the net even now, how often have any of you written something just to have some one come along and completely miss the context and turn it into something else? 2012-08-23 22:56:54 Holyhellcat: brb 2012-08-23 22:57:02 trekie4ever: all the damn time roo 2012-08-23 22:57:15 TimeNot_0: what is brb? 2012-08-23 22:57:20 trekie4ever: be right back 2012-08-23 22:57:20 Samstwitch: Be right Back 2012-08-23 22:57:20 cmac: Yeah, a knowing is much more useful than raking in tons of "knowledge" 2012-08-23 22:57:22 AtomicKangaroo: I think this is also the case with most religious texts Trekie. Be right back = brb 2012-08-23 22:57:23 Samstwitch: lol 2012-08-23 22:58:04 AtomicKangaroo: like babylon the scarlet whore in revelations, if anyone is familar with that verse, what do you imagine babylon is? 2012-08-23 22:58:10 trekie4ever: The prophets spent their entire lives in scrolls learning the sacred arts and mysticism 2012-08-23 22:58:19 trekie4ever: I think it's gonna be my ex gf roo 2012-08-23 22:58:35 Samstwitch: When the Prophecy of the Bible is fulfilled, you will see how powerful God's Word is. 2012-08-23 22:58:35 trekie4ever: Lol... on a serious note... I have no clue 2012-08-23 22:58:59 AtomicKangaroo: for me with her tattooo's of many colours and business men will mourn her passing, babylon comes off as sounding like Las Vegas, the tattoo's of many colours being neon lights. And where do business men like to go for confrences and such???? 2012-08-23 22:59:14 Samstwitch: Babylon = USA 2012-08-23 22:59:18 AtomicKangaroo: yet many other read it as being a physical being, like an actual women 2012-08-23 22:59:29 Samstwitch: It has been interpreted by some as such. 2012-08-23 22:59:41 AtomicKangaroo: and I tink we feel that way about most of our ex's Trekie lol 2012-08-23 22:59:41 TimeNot_0: I thought Babylon was in Iraq? 2012-08-23 22:59:45 Traveler Malaki: I dont believe in prophecy or any of that stuff, the future is always changable 2012-08-23 22:59:46 trekie4ever: nah, we have called our cars, and ships women for a long time 2012-08-23 22:59:54 Traveler Malaki: the past is too but thats another topic 2012-08-23 22:59:59 trekie4ever: Revalations speaks of another Babylon TimeNot 2012-08-23 23:00:35 TimeNot_0: I just don't think that anyone understands Revalations?? 2012-08-23 23:00:46 AtomicKangaroo: I think at times the bible is just a historical record, well the old testament anyways. For me the tower of babel is the story of the super continent that scientists agree once exsisted. 2012-08-23 23:00:59 Samstwitch: Bible Prophecy is the only Prophecy that is 100% correct. Scripture says, Prophecy fulfilled is the testament that Jesus Christ is the Son of God (paraphrasing a bit, but that's what the Bible says.) 2012-08-23 23:01:07 cmac: yeah, the future is always changing, when viewing the future you are viewing a probably future 2012-08-23 23:01:18 cmac: probable 2012-08-23 23:01:21 AtomicKangaroo: but where has prophecy been fufilled? 2012-08-23 23:01:34 trekie4ever: i think the future has already happened 2012-08-23 23:01:37 Samstwitch: So in due time, all of Bible Prophecy will come to pass, will happen, and then you will know that Jesus is the Son of God. 2012-08-23 23:01:43 trekie4ever: or is happening now 2012-08-23 23:01:57 Samstwitch: Roo, OMG study the Bible and you will find your answer. 2012-08-23 23:02:18 AtomicKangaroo: but is the future changing if we only have the present? if we turn left maybe turning right was never an option??? I'm a beleiver of the eternal present, times a man made thing, there is no future and the pasts already been, there is only now. 2012-08-23 23:02:19 TimeNot_0: There be nothing left to religion if anyone could ever figure it all out 2012-08-23 23:02:20 Traveler Malaki: think of it this way, the present 'now' was viewed as a probable future by someone else previously 2012-08-23 23:02:30 Samstwitch: Prophecy in the Old Testament was fulfilled, up until our time...Jesus fulfilled all of the Prophecy that foretold of His coming. 2012-08-23 23:02:42 Traveler Malaki: They all exist at once, we only experience it in a linear fashion 2012-08-23 23:02:46 spooky2: Things have been happening that was fortold in the Bible for a couple years now 2012-08-23 23:02:51 trekie4ever: i agree TM 2012-08-23 23:03:16 AtomicKangaroo: Sam? I have studied the bible, I wasn;t around a few thousand years ago to see if things happened as they say they did. I could write that I healed millions, and in 2000 years who could disprove it???? 2012-08-23 23:03:23 trekie4ever: honestly the bible is too vague 2012-08-23 23:03:35 Samstwitch: Not gonna debate over it here. 2012-08-23 23:03:40 trekie4ever: but in general, i feel it's pretty accurate as to the STATE of the world 2012-08-23 23:03:45 Samstwitch: Except to say, you are totally wrong. 2012-08-23 23:03:51 trekie4ever: Yah i don't feel like having this debate either lol 2012-08-23 23:03:55 HDRKID: Time travel can prove it. 2012-08-23 23:04:05 Samstwitch: I like that answer! 2012-08-23 23:04:05 trekie4ever: yah where's timetraveller? 2012-08-23 23:04:09 AtomicKangaroo: and it's not just the bible, it's most religions. Just to be clear I'm not singling out Islam, Judaism or Christianity. 2012-08-23 23:04:13 trekie4ever: *snickers* 2012-08-23 23:04:22 AtomicKangaroo: time travel? lol I wish 2012-08-23 23:04:23 Samstwitch: Whatever... 2012-08-23 23:04:37 Holyhellcat: ok you guys, I have to go soon. Any more questions for me? 2012-08-23 23:04:50 AtomicKangaroo: not for me Dr K 2012-08-23 23:04:55 trekie4ever: Yes I do 2012-08-23 23:04:59 Holyhellcat: ok 2012-08-23 23:05:02 Samstwitch: We currently have a self-proclaimed time traveler that we are waiting to see what happens with his forecasts. 2012-08-23 23:05:11 trekie4ever: How do I get this thing that's standing next to me to go away 2012-08-23 23:05:12 Holyhellcat: and I want to thank everyone who jumped in! 2012-08-23 23:05:18 Samstwitch: Yes, more questions for HCat 2012-08-23 23:05:20 Traveler Malaki: Whos the time traveler? 2012-08-23 23:05:23 Holyhellcat: Is it your spouse? 2012-08-23 23:05:25 Holyhellcat: lol 2012-08-23 23:05:27 trekie4ever: lol no 2012-08-23 23:05:32 Holyhellcat: sorry I could not resist 2012-08-23 23:05:34 trekie4ever: I'm single and living alone :-( 2012-08-23 23:05:41 Holyhellcat: 2012-08-23 23:05:47 Samstwitch: LOL 2012-08-23 23:05:49 Holyhellcat: do you know what it is? 2012-08-23 23:05:53 spooky2: I choose to believe that Jesus is coming back for me everyone has there own beliefs 2012-08-23 23:05:55 Samstwitch: hahaha 2012-08-23 23:05:55 trekie4ever: the black figure 2012-08-23 23:06:07 trekie4ever: i feel it. i can't physically see it but i'll catch it in the corner of my eye 2012-08-23 23:06:09 AtomicKangaroo: shadow peep trek? 2012-08-23 23:06:10 Holyhellcat: shadow? 2012-08-23 23:06:14 trekie4ever: it always stands in the SAME spot 2012-08-23 23:06:19 trekie4ever: and it stares at me 2012-08-23 23:06:20 trekie4ever: all the time 2012-08-23 23:06:30 Holyhellcat: may i come visit you? 2012-08-23 23:06:37 trekie4ever: ummm... if you'd like 2012-08-23 23:06:40 Samstwitch: HHCat, I don't mean to sound ignorant, but what is your profession? It's been a pleasure having you in Chat. 2012-08-23 23:06:40 Holyhellcat: k 2012-08-23 23:06:42 spooky2: had one in my bedroom 2012-08-23 23:06:58 trekie4ever: the most interesting thing about it is... 2012-08-23 23:07:02 trekie4ever: It's followed me 2012-08-23 23:07:18 trekie4ever: I drove about 700 miles and it came back a few days later 2012-08-23 23:07:18 spooky2: just standing there my wife said listning to me in the kitchen 2012-08-23 23:07:30 trekie4ever: i moved for a job 2012-08-23 23:07:39 trekie4ever: lol, it must've had a long walk *snickers* 2012-08-23 23:07:40 Samstwitch: trekie needs Goul B Gone! 2012-08-23 23:07:42 Holyhellcat: ok, I get that it is an obsever who is blocking you from your mission or path 2012-08-23 23:07:51 Holyhellcat: i get it is not evil, but not good 2012-08-23 23:07:57 trekie4ever: yes, fear 2012-08-23 23:08:07 trekie4ever: it constantly tries to bombard me with a spirit of fear 2012-08-23 23:08:25 Traveler Malaki: how come demons or entities dont do something like possess the president of Russia and have him launch nukes? 2012-08-23 23:08:32 trekie4ever: it sends awful images in my mind. like of me being grabbed and tossed around my room 2012-08-23 23:08:32 TimeNot_0: 4ever do not want it to follow you 2012-08-23 23:08:44 Holyhellcat: cut smash sevre and destroy all hooks, agreements, and karmic ties between you and his kind 2012-08-23 23:08:47 spooky2: hellcat what happend to your website? 2012-08-23 23:08:52 Holyhellcat: then you can get rid of it 2012-08-23 23:08:57 Holyhellcat: ??? 2012-08-23 23:09:00 trekie4ever: i have none that i know of 2012-08-23 23:09:10 AtomicKangaroo: Because that would ruin the world for them Malaki, they want our bodies and earth intact I think. 2012-08-23 23:09:16 spooky2: went there and it wasn't lol 2012-08-23 23:09:29 Holyhellcat: try again 2012-08-23 23:09:30 trekie4ever: When i think about it, the first time i saw it was about 10 years ago. I was... 11ish 2012-08-23 23:09:36 Traveler Malaki: Gotta valid point there Atomic lol 2012-08-23 23:09:42 spooky2: is there a new addy 2012-08-23 23:09:46 trekie4ever: i had a pretty prophetic dream 2012-08-23 23:10:08 AtomicKangaroo: ghoulbgone new site 2012-08-23 23:10:23 trekie4ever: in the sense of I was seeing places I'd never been before. I put the pieces together over the years like "WOW that was the place in that one dream!" 2012-08-23 23:10:36 Holyhellcat: what was happening with your parents then? 2012-08-23 23:10:39 trekie4ever: then the dream when bad quick. everyone disappeared. and i was alone. then I saw it. The black figure walking towards me 2012-08-23 23:10:53 AtomicKangaroo: tried throwing salt at it trekkie and telling it to be gone? 2012-08-23 23:10:54 trekie4ever: the whole room was black, but it kindof shined black 2012-08-23 23:10:54 spooky2: thanks 2012-08-23 23:11:03 trekie4ever: i'm afraid to honestly roo 2012-08-23 23:11:18 Holyhellcat: it will take more than salt on this one deat 2012-08-23 23:11:18 trekie4ever: im afraid to do anything about it cause im afraid it'll get worse 2012-08-23 23:11:21 Holyhellcat: dear 2012-08-23 23:11:24 trekie4ever: i'll pray 2012-08-23 23:11:27 trekie4ever: and it'll leave 2012-08-23 23:11:30 trekie4ever: just for the night 2012-08-23 23:11:44 AtomicKangaroo: fair enough. but It probably likes tha fear, I was just thinking a show of will power might send it a message, but I'm not expert. So I'll leave the ideas to Kimberli 2012-08-23 23:11:45 TimeNot_0: do not fear 2012-08-23 23:11:53 trekie4ever: The second time I saw it was in a dream too 2012-08-23 23:11:56 Holyhellcat: look up stephinie relfe's stuff she has good prayers that will help you fet rid of this 2012-08-23 23:12:00 Holyhellcat: i use her stuff alot 2012-08-23 23:12:04 Holyhellcat: it is powerful 2012-08-23 23:12:04 trekie4ever: this was... 3 years ago around thanksgiving 2012-08-23 23:12:30 trekie4ever: I was chained to my sisters bed in this dream and it was trying to get into the room. I of course was praying and screaming scripture 2012-08-23 23:12:33 Holyhellcat: itrekie, it is a serious situation 2012-08-23 23:12:46 Holyhellcat: it is keeping you from your path/mission 2012-08-23 23:12:50 trekie4ever: The anger and hatred it had was so intense whenever I said Jesus it was like breathing in a steam room 2012-08-23 23:13:08 trekie4ever: and then the last time i saw it was beginning of may when it was over my bed 2012-08-23 23:13:09 Holyhellcat: use latin 2012-08-23 23:13:17 trekie4ever: and it has followed me sense 2012-08-23 23:13:21 spooky2: I hope I wrote it down right lol 2012-08-23 23:13:35 Holyhellcat: i think this entity is more of an alien type 2012-08-23 23:13:41 trekie4ever: I'll make a forum post about my experiences with spirits 2012-08-23 23:13:57 Holyhellcat: it has a contract to keep you from doing what you are meant to do 2012-08-23 23:14:07 Holyhellcat: and the contract is not with you 2012-08-23 23:14:11 trekie4ever: honest truth 2012-08-23 23:14:18 trekie4ever: i think i know what i'm meant to do 2012-08-23 23:14:22 AtomicKangaroo: see I'm impatient, something like tis messed with me, I'd go straight for it's nuts. 2012-08-23 23:14:23 trekie4ever: but i'm afraid to admit it to myself 2012-08-23 23:14:32 Holyhellcat: then do not let anything keep you from your path 2012-08-23 23:14:37 trekie4ever: haha, i figured i'd do that if it showed itself to me again 2012-08-23 23:14:59 trekie4ever: let's dance. I've learned to get angry and fight them 2012-08-23 23:15:04 trekie4ever: they were always the same before. sleep paralysis and i'd get tickled 2012-08-23 23:15:09 AtomicKangaroo: I find the solution to most of lifes issues is to believe in yourself. I refuse to let either man or spook hold dominion over me. 2012-08-23 23:15:11 Holyhellcat: you know where it is, and you need to cut it's ties to you 2012-08-23 23:15:18 trekie4ever: I hate being tickled... i would wake up screaming bloody murder into my parents bed 2012-08-23 23:15:35 trekie4ever: eventually i managed to stop it before it could start touching me 2012-08-23 23:15:55 Holyhellcat: it was taking you out of dreamtime as that is where we get information downloads 2012-08-23 23:16:02 trekie4ever: umm... and if any of you experiences sleep paralysis and it's more of a spiritual thing 2012-08-23 23:16:07 trekie4ever: you can push them off you lol 2012-08-23 23:16:33 trekie4ever: beginning of July I was being held down, and I got pissed and shoved it off 2012-08-23 23:16:39 trekie4ever: My dog was flipping out 2012-08-23 23:17:19 trekie4ever: oh, and i have a recording of my reaction during an 'attack.' one happened during a sleep study i was having 2012-08-23 23:17:35 trekie4ever: i've been too lazy to rip it and upload it somewhere 2012-08-23 23:18:08 trekie4ever: unfortunately the camera wasn't pointing at the door which is where i managed to hold the entity back... 2012-08-23 23:18:34 Holyhellcat: do you have orgonite? 2012-08-23 23:18:48 trekie4ever: best place for a succubi/incubi to be. A sleep clinic. i'ts like a smorgasbord 2012-08-23 23:18:50 trekie4ever: orgonite? 2012-08-23 23:18:51 trekie4ever: no 2012-08-23 23:19:03 trekie4ever: man sorry for ranting peoples 2012-08-23 23:19:17 Numenorean7: What's orgonite? 2012-08-23 23:19:27 trekie4ever: sounds like a power ranger 2012-08-23 23:19:30 TimeNot_0: didn't think you were ranting 2012-08-23 23:19:33 AtomicKangaroo: lol 2012-08-23 23:19:35 Holyhellcat: It is a crystal wrapped in a tesla coil 2012-08-23 23:19:54 Holyhellcat: then it is put in a resin with gemstones and metal 2012-08-23 23:20:12 AtomicKangaroo: what does it do? 2012-08-23 23:20:17 spooky2: never herd of it what does it do? 2012-08-23 23:20:20 Holyhellcat: it puts off orgone energy and makes it difficult for those who disturb you in dreamtime to come around 2012-08-23 23:20:32 Holyhellcat: I have it all over my house 2012-08-23 23:20:43 Holyhellcat: I had all sorts of visitors at night. 2012-08-23 23:21:00 trekie4ever: 3 am is the most active time these things come at me :-/ 2012-08-23 23:21:01 Holyhellcat: when i added 3 pieces to my bedroom, things slowed down. 2012-08-23 23:21:09 trekie4ever: within minutes sometimes 2012-08-23 23:21:12 Holyhellcat: so i then put it all over my house 2012-08-23 23:21:17 Holyhellcat: and poof.. gone 2012-08-23 23:21:23 trekie4ever: i'll have to try that 2012-08-23 23:21:33 spooky2: is that goolbgone? 2012-08-23 23:21:34 trekie4ever: i've read a bit about radionics and orgone generators 2012-08-23 23:21:39 Holyhellcat: my visitors were not the kind ones 2012-08-23 23:21:44 trekie4ever: no, organe is something else 2012-08-23 23:21:54 spooky2: ok 2012-08-23 23:21:54 trekie4ever: *orgone 2012-08-23 23:21:55 Holyhellcat: made properly, they work very well 2012-08-23 23:22:04 trekie4ever: I have a small pyramid 2012-08-23 23:22:13 Holyhellcat: they are not difficult to make. just messy 2012-08-23 23:22:14 trekie4ever: would I be able to place something in that to generate orgone? 2012-08-23 23:22:18 Samstwitch: Signing off...HHCat it was a pleasure having you in Chat! Hope to see you again. 2012-08-23 23:22:28 trekie4ever: It was nice meeting you Sam 2012-08-23 23:22:31 Holyhellcat: the crystal with the tesla coil 2012-08-23 23:22:36 Holyhellcat: nite 2012-08-23 23:23:05 spooky2: nite sam 2012-08-23 23:23:13 TimeNot_0: I think both of yous will have to get together and discuss it. 2012-08-23 23:23:45 Holyhellcat: and lol.. it is even supposed to work against zombies 2012-08-23 23:23:59 trekie4ever: Zomg zombies 2012-08-23 23:24:02 TimeNot_0: G'nite people and an interesting nite. 2012-08-23 23:24:07 trekie4ever: goodnight TimeNot 2012-08-23 23:24:09 Holyhellcat: it is however, powerful stuff 2012-08-23 23:24:13 Numenorean7: Good night! 2012-08-23 23:24:13 Holyhellcat: nite 2012-08-23 23:24:13 spooky2: nite 2012-08-23 23:24:26 trekie4ever: i'll have to find a good crystal then 2012-08-23 23:24:30 AtomicKangaroo: yeah I gotta go also, things to do, nice to meet you all, been a fun discussion. I'll talk to you later Kimberli. Be on Skype in about 20-30. good day/night everyone. 2012-08-23 23:24:45 Holyhellcat: i live in Hot Springs, I can get you some good crystals 2012-08-23 23:24:46 Numenorean7: Good night Kangaroo! 2012-08-23 23:24:52 Holyhellcat: nite roo 2012-08-23 23:24:53 trekie4ever: Night Roo 2012-08-23 23:24:55 Holyhellcat: thanks 2012-08-23 23:25:04 trekie4ever: I would greatly appreciate that 2012-08-23 23:25:11 trekie4ever: I don't trust things at stores 2012-08-23 23:25:22 trekie4ever: nothing ever feels 'right' 2012-08-23 23:25:23 Holyhellcat: my email is kimberliridgeway@gmail.com 2012-08-23 23:25:32 spooky2: what else do you us them for hellcat 2012-08-23 23:25:39 trekie4ever: I will email you now 2012-08-23 23:25:48 Holyhellcat: 2012-08-23 23:26:22 Holyhellcat: look into making the orgonite and tell me what size you are going to make, that will let me know what size crystals to get 2012-08-23 23:26:46 trekie4ever: haha, from my experiences 2012-08-23 23:26:51 trekie4ever: it's gonna be BIG ;-) 2012-08-23 23:27:01 spooky2: where does one get a tesla coil lol 2012-08-23 23:27:20 Holyhellcat: I would suggest making some small muffin sizes and about 5 of the big ones 2012-08-23 23:27:39 trekie4ever: ok 2012-08-23 23:27:44 Holyhellcat: you can go to the dollar sotore and get margaritia glasses as molds 2012-08-23 23:27:57 Holyhellcat: I will get the crystals accordingly 2012-08-23 23:28:09 Holyhellcat: putting it in my to do list now 2012-08-23 23:28:25 trekie4ever: alright, i'll jump on getting supplies tomorrow 2012-08-23 23:28:48 trekie4ever: are you in hot springs arkansas? 2012-08-23 23:29:00 spooky2: do you make it yourself? 2012-08-23 23:29:09 Holyhellcat: that is where i live. right now i am traveling i will be home in a few days 2012-08-23 23:29:15 Holyhellcat: yes i do 2012-08-23 23:29:21 trekie4ever: ok 2012-08-23 23:29:47 trekie4ever: technically a tesla coil is a copper wire, or conductive metal wire wrapped around a metal magnatized rod 2012-08-23 23:29:51 spooky2: would you email me directions? 2012-08-23 23:30:06 Holyhellcat: this is how i make mine... 2012-08-23 23:30:34 Holyhellcat: first supplies, you need molds. a metal muffin tin and margarita glasses 2012-08-23 23:30:41 Holyhellcat: spray them with pam 2012-08-23 23:30:52 spooky2: rogerbelt_1@yahoo.com 2012-08-23 23:31:15 Holyhellcat: add a layer of epoxy resin, get that at the hardware store 2012-08-23 23:31:51 Holyhellcat: when the resin is harding, I add the crystal 2012-08-23 23:32:11 Holyhellcat: the crystal is cleansed 2012-08-23 23:32:35 Holyhellcat: then wrap in copper wire with coils above and below 2012-08-23 23:32:51 Holyhellcat: then more resin and some gemstones 2012-08-23 23:33:07 Holyhellcat: i like rose quartz, amathyst and garnet 2012-08-23 23:33:40 Holyhellcat: get metal shavings, which can be aquired at any machine shop, they throw them away 2012-08-23 23:33:57 Holyhellcat: sprinkle the shavings and more gem stones 2012-08-23 23:34:03 Holyhellcat: more resin 2012-08-23 23:34:36 trekie4ever: ok, it's hard to visualize... would you mind sending me a picture? 2012-08-23 23:34:42 Holyhellcat: when everything is level to crystal and the point of the crystal goes down in the mold so it is up when it is unmolded 2012-08-23 23:34:53 trekie4ever: And the energy generated would help set up a protective barrier 2012-08-23 23:35:07 trekie4ever: praying over them to help charge them 2012-08-23 23:35:10 Holyhellcat: then take a copper wire and do a triple coil in a linear fashion 2012-08-23 23:35:14 Holyhellcat: yes 2012-08-23 23:35:24 Holyhellcat: and i play music when i am making them 2012-08-23 23:35:29 trekie4ever: ok 2012-08-23 23:36:00 Holyhellcat: lay the triple coil over the bottom of the crystal, the triple coil is not nessicary but makes it more powerful 2012-08-23 23:36:20 Holyhellcat: finish with metal and gemstones and resin 2012-08-23 23:36:27 Holyhellcat: let dry and voila! 2012-08-23 23:36:50 trekie4ever: ugh the darker it is the more awful the feeling 2012-08-23 23:36:56 trekie4ever: i'll make some tomorrow 2012-08-23 23:37:09 spooky2: send the email lol i'll never remember all that 2012-08-23 23:37:12 trekie4ever: it tries hard to oppress me 2012-08-23 23:37:53 Holyhellcat: i keep orgonite in my car and i make a small one that i keep in my pocket 2012-08-23 23:38:06 Holyhellcat: i can tell, as i said, it has orders 2012-08-23 23:38:17 trekie4ever: from who? 2012-08-23 23:38:22 Holyhellcat: i dont think it will harm you as long as it can keep you blocked 2012-08-23 23:38:31 trekie4ever: yes 2012-08-23 23:38:33 Holyhellcat: it feels alien in nature 2012-08-23 23:38:47 trekie4ever: that feeling... if i fight back it will lash out 2012-08-23 23:39:40 Holyhellcat: then when you do resist, so it with everything you have, no playin around 2012-08-23 23:40:02 Holyhellcat: it has an agenda 2012-08-23 23:40:36 trekie4ever: meh 2012-08-23 23:40:43 trekie4ever: i think i know why 2012-08-23 23:41:10 Holyhellcat: u am going to suggest you get on top of this 2012-08-23 23:41:17 trekie4ever: yah 2012-08-23 23:41:20 Holyhellcat: dont swell too much, just act 2012-08-23 23:41:27 Holyhellcat: oh dwell 2012-08-23 23:41:38 Holyhellcat: any other questions? 2012-08-23 23:41:47 trekie4ever: no questions 2012-08-23 23:41:52 trekie4ever: i know how to deal with it 2012-08-23 23:41:58 trekie4ever: i'm just terrified 2012-08-23 23:42:08 trekie4ever: I know i have authority and power 2012-08-23 23:42:18 trekie4ever: I know it has to listen to me and do what I say 2012-08-23 23:42:33 trekie4ever: but everything i've dealt with before... this thing is on another level 2012-08-23 23:42:37 trekie4ever: it's gonna fight 2012-08-23 23:42:38 Holyhellcat: not when you have fear, there is no power 2012-08-23 23:42:49 trekie4ever: like some "Excorcist" type stuff... 2012-08-23 23:42:50 spooky2: gotta go all bless you all goodnite 2012-08-23 23:42:51 Holyhellcat: so what if it fights? 2012-08-23 23:42:59 Holyhellcat: night spooky 2012-08-23 23:43:05 trekie4ever: yah, my fear makes me more scared 2012-08-23 23:43:12 trekie4ever: cause i know it makes me weak 2012-08-23 23:43:13 Holyhellcat: and weak 2012-08-23 23:44:06 Holyhellcat: have you ever fasted? 2012-08-23 23:44:11 trekie4ever: no 2012-08-23 23:44:17 Holyhellcat: try 2012-08-23 23:44:23 trekie4ever: i thought about trying a water fast 2012-08-23 23:44:36 trekie4ever: i was looking it up a couple days ago 2012-08-23 23:44:43 Holyhellcat: as long as there is not a medicial condition that would prevent it 2012-08-23 23:44:52 Holyhellcat: just no solid food 2012-08-23 23:45:01 Holyhellcat: juice water 2012-08-23 23:45:05 trekie4ever: yah, 2012-08-23 23:45:08 Holyhellcat: yes 2012-08-23 23:45:11 trekie4ever: yah that what i was about to say 2012-08-23 23:45:23 Holyhellcat: i did a podcast on fasting, peacemeds.com 2012-08-23 23:45:25 trekie4ever: juice, made from fruit in a blender or juicer 2012-08-23 23:45:35 Holyhellcat: i have alot of informational podcasts 2012-08-23 23:45:43 Holyhellcat: juicer is fine 2012-08-23 23:45:55 Holyhellcat: you need to keep up your nutrition while fasting 2012-08-23 23:46:02 Holyhellcat: just keep away from solids 2012-08-23 23:46:12 Holyhellcat: it will weaken its bind to you 2012-08-23 23:46:14 trekie4ever: i wanted to do it more for a detox 2012-08-23 23:46:30 Holyhellcat: 2 birds one stone 2012-08-23 23:48:17 trekie4ever: yes 2012-08-23 23:49:12 trekie4ever: i'm gonna head to bed now 2012-08-23 23:49:31 trekie4ever: i'm gonna pray for a bit and go on to sleep 2012-08-23 23:50:23 jUDY: We are all praying for you 2012-08-23 23:50:39 Numenorean7: May the force be with you! 2012-08-23 23:50:40 trekie4ever: thank you 2012-08-23 23:50:47 trekie4ever: Ew I'm a Trekkie! 2012-08-23 23:50:54 Numenorean7: That's the funny thing! lol 2012-08-23 23:50:59 Holyhellcat: 2012-08-23 23:51:02 trekie4ever: lol 2012-08-23 23:51:07 Numenorean7: Okay okay. Live long and prosper! 2012-08-23 23:51:08 trekie4ever: Coordinates are set 2012-08-23 23:51:23 trekie4ever: Heading mark 2352, planet bed 2012-08-23 23:51:25 trekie4ever: Engage! 2012-08-23 23:51:28 trekie4ever: ciao 2012-08-23 23:51:34 Numenorean7: Haha! Take care! 2012-08-23 23:51:38 Holyhellcat: night 2012-08-23 23:51:53 Numenorean7: I think it's been a great chat! 2012-08-23 23:52:01 Holyhellcat: Numenrean7, thank you for having me on! 2012-08-23 23:52:08 Holyhellcat: I have really enjoyed it 2012-08-23 23:52:14 Numenorean7: Thank you for coming, it was awesome. 2012-08-23 23:52:21 cmac: Thanks for coming Holyhellcat 2012-08-23 23:52:22 Numenorean7: I didn't expect to see so many people in here. 2012-08-23 23:52:30 Numenorean7: We were 16 at some point! 2012-08-23 23:52:42 cmac: yeah, this is the most in the chat, I've ever seen 2012-08-23 23:52:52 cmac: Very active 2012-08-23 23:53:00 Numenorean7: It was great, everyone was taking part. 2012-08-23 23:53:13 cmac: I was quiet for once lol 2012-08-23 23:53:21 Numenorean7: Haha! 2012-08-23 23:53:32 cmac: I've been talking in another chatroom mostly 2012-08-23 23:53:42 Numenorean7: Oh you! 2012-08-23 23:54:09 Numenorean7: HDRKID, are you still there? 2012-08-23 23:54:53 Holyhellcat: If you want to have me back again just hit me up! I love your group 2012-08-23 23:55:09 cmac: thanks Holyhellcat 2012-08-23 23:55:10 Numenorean7: Sounds like a plan! I'm sure there's still a lot we haven't talk about yet. 2012-08-23 23:55:27 Numenorean7: Maybe in a few weeks we can make this happen again. 2012-08-23 23:55:29 cmac: I missed the first hour, I was not happy with myself lol 2012-08-23 23:55:39 Numenorean7: You'll have to read the log, man! 2012-08-23 23:55:44 cmac: yeah, I know 2012-08-23 23:55:51 cmac: we've had activity again in my house 2012-08-23 23:55:53 Holyhellcat: I need a link as well 2012-08-23 23:56:03 Numenorean7: I'm going to post it in the chat event's topic. 2012-08-23 23:56:10 cmac: I've still yet to do a cleansing 2012-08-23 23:56:26 cmac: I'm low on Sage lol 2012-08-23 23:56:27 Holyhellcat: 2012-08-23 23:56:41 cmac: but we keep hearing someone in my office 2012-08-23 23:56:54 Holyhellcat: Read about my Ghoul B Gone, it is a bit more heafty than sage alone 2012-08-23 23:57:00 Numenorean7: Voices in your house? Again? 2012-08-23 23:57:28 cmac: no voices this time 2012-08-23 23:57:41 cmac: but it sounds like a fairly large person sitting in my office chair 2012-08-23 23:57:45 Numenorean7: Oh! 2012-08-23 23:57:46 cmac: rocking back and forth 2012-08-23 23:57:57 Holyhellcat: have you talked to it? 2012-08-23 23:58:04 cmac: and then the chair sounds as if it scoots a few inches across the floor 2012-08-23 23:58:18 cmac: well, the first night that I personally heard it, I went in there 2012-08-23 23:58:23 cmac: and I was asking who was there 2012-08-23 23:58:59 cmac: I didn't get anything intuitively, nothing clairaudiently either 2012-08-23 23:59:44 cmac: but multiple people in my house have heard basically the same sounds 2012-08-23 23:59:45 Holyhellcat: try with a dvr or a spirit radio 2012-08-23 23:59:47 cmac: numerous times 2012-08-23 23:59:47 cmac: Yeah, I wish I had one of those 2012-08-24 00:00:16 cmac: well, yeah, I have a dvr 2012-08-24 00:00:23 cmac: I need to set it up in there 2012-08-24 00:00:23 Holyhellcat: contact your local ghost hunters 2012-08-24 00:00:35 cmac: I have some equipment myself 2012-08-24 00:00:39 cmac: not everything 2012-08-24 00:00:41 cmac: but some 2012-08-24 00:00:46 cmac: a couple of dvrs 2012-08-24 00:00:51 cmac: and some other devices 2012-08-24 00:01:16 Holyhellcat: then go for it 2012-08-24 00:01:19 cmac: the night that I first heard it, it raised the hair on my arms and body, and I had goosebumps all over 2012-08-24 00:01:34 Holyhellcat: maybe they will communicate and you can find out why they are still hanging around 2012-08-24 00:01:35 cmac: well, my 10 year old daughter has seen a woman in our kitchen twice now 2012-08-24 00:01:42 Holyhellcat: and help it cross over 2012-08-24 00:01:45 cmac: but my intuitive sense, is this isn't her 2012-08-24 00:01:54 cmac: that woman came through me once 2012-08-24 00:02:01 Holyhellcat: do you live near or on a vortex? 2012-08-24 00:02:01 cmac: through my high heart area 2012-08-24 00:02:06 cmac: I got really emotional 2012-08-24 00:02:10 cmac: very likely yes 2012-08-24 00:02:19 cmac: we may have a portal in an upstairs bedroom 2012-08-24 00:02:30 cmac: and there is some sort of a tie to Native Americans with our land 2012-08-24 00:02:49 cmac: I'm pretty certain too that we are either right on a ley line, or very near to one 2012-08-24 00:03:12 cmac: the 2nd day that I was on this property, I got a vision and a sense of something Native American 2012-08-24 00:03:14 cmac: with the land 2012-08-24 00:03:25 cmac: since then, I've had at least 5 psychics pick up on it too 2012-08-24 00:04:17 Numenorean7: jan, welcome! 2012-08-24 00:04:21 cmac: but on the stairs near the front door there is a high energy area 2012-08-24 00:04:27 cmac: the dowsing rods spin in circles 2012-08-24 00:04:43 cmac: and I have a device that measures frequencies, and the frequencies are very high in that area 2012-08-24 00:05:33 cmac: but in a room upstairs, theres an even higher measurement about the size of a beach ball 2012-08-24 00:05:34 jan: hey! 2012-08-24 00:05:40 cmac: also the dowsing rods go nuts there too 2012-08-24 00:05:54 Holyhellcat: that what i feel, you have some sort of vortex that is allowing many spirits to manifest. It is almost like it is attracting them 2012-08-24 00:05:57 cmac: but near the stairs is where most of our activity has taken place over the years 2012-08-24 00:06:03 Holyhellcat: hey jan! 2012-08-24 00:06:14 cmac: well, also my daughter sees spirits, she's a crystal 2012-08-24 00:06:24 cmac: my other daughter is also of high vibration 2012-08-24 00:06:30 Numenorean7: I'll have to leave. 2012-08-24 00:06:32 cmac: as well as myself, I'm an Indigo 2012-08-24 00:06:38 cmac: wtih abilities 2012-08-24 00:06:52 Numenorean7: It's been a great chat, thank you for the great chat guys! 2012-08-24 00:06:57 cmac: basically my whole family has abilities 2012-08-24 00:07:03 cmac: take care Num! 2012-08-24 00:07:12 Numenorean7: You too! See you later all! 2012-08-24 00:07:27 Numenorean7: I'll post the log tomorrow night! See ya! 2012-08-24 00:08:07 jan: that makes sense about the vortex, KK 2012-08-24 00:09:02 cmac: well, I had a couple of women, supposedly close the portal in the upstairs bedroom 2012-08-24 00:09:10 cmac: my daughter was scared to be in that room 2012-08-24 00:09:10 Holyhellcat: Has this house been in your family or were you attracted to it as well? 2012-08-24 00:09:17 cmac: and she was seeing things moving around in her room 2012-08-24 00:09:23 cmac: I think she was sensing them big time 2012-08-24 00:09:31 cmac: she was wetting the bed every night 2012-08-24 00:09:35 Holyhellcat: Jan, wow, there were a bunch of people in here tonight 2012-08-24 00:09:53 cmac: and after the women attempted to close the portal, she slept in there fine for weeks, and never wet the bed 2012-08-24 00:09:56 Holyhellcat: has the house been in your family? 2012-08-24 00:10:05 cmac: no, we built it 5 years ago 2012-08-24 00:10:16 cmac: first house that was here on this 4.32 acre lot 2012-08-24 00:10:24 Holyhellcat: so you were attracted to the property 2012-08-24 00:10:29 cmac: it was farmed before we owned it 2012-08-24 00:10:31 Holyhellcat: closing portals is easy 2012-08-24 00:10:40 cmac: I wasn't, attracted to it really 2012-08-24 00:10:44 Holyhellcat: do you want me to try from here? 2012-08-24 00:10:49 cmac: oh, sure 2012-08-24 00:10:52 cmac: feel free 2012-08-24 00:10:55 Holyhellcat: give me a min 2012-08-24 00:11:00 cmac: awesome 2012-08-24 00:11:43 jan: so we create them and so we discreate them unless we are fascinated, right? 2012-08-24 00:13:30 Holyhellcat: k 2012-08-24 00:13:36 Holyhellcat: did you feel that? 2012-08-24 00:13:55 Holyhellcat: i think this one was there when he arrived 2012-08-24 00:14:36 Holyhellcat: alot of souls crossed, i saw 3 scraggles that chose to stya behind, but the vortex/portal is now closed 2012-08-24 00:14:48 cmac: oh wow, nice 2012-08-24 00:14:49 Holyhellcat: scragglers 2012-08-24 00:14:51 cmac: thank you 2012-08-24 00:14:55 Holyhellcat: 2012-08-24 00:14:59 Holyhellcat: your welcome 2012-08-24 00:15:07 cmac: what all did you sense? 2012-08-24 00:15:12 cmac: if you are ok with sharing 2012-08-24 00:15:17 Holyhellcat: well, first i went there, 2012-08-24 00:15:27 Holyhellcat: and saw alot and i mean alot of activity 2012-08-24 00:15:44 Holyhellcat: first i started cloapsing the portal 2012-08-24 00:16:27 Holyhellcat: and then called in Arch Angel Michael to Find and Take the souls that were there and ready to cross over 2012-08-24 00:16:40 Holyhellcat: He came in and took a few, then it got interesting 2012-08-24 00:17:08 cmac: ok, yeah, that makes sense 2012-08-24 00:17:12 Holyhellcat: the portal would not close, but i knew my focus should stay on the souls and keeping that prayer vibe open 2012-08-24 00:17:32 cmac: ArchAngel Michael Prayer? 2012-08-24 00:18:05 Holyhellcat: so as the portal was trying to stay open i saw a swarm of Angels come in and take countless, like it was a huge migration of souls 2012-08-24 00:18:25 Holyhellcat: so then i set up vortexes of my own to clear residual energies 2012-08-24 00:18:50 Holyhellcat: I saw 3 that stayed behind. I think they maybe guardians of the land itself 2012-08-24 00:19:11 Holyhellcat: then when I was free to focus on it i collapsed and sealed the portal 2012-08-24 00:19:19 Holyhellcat: it was a bit stubborn 2012-08-24 00:19:25 Holyhellcat: but it is done 2012-08-24 00:20:06 cmac: wow 2012-08-24 00:20:10 jan: did you stop processing after you left the other night? were you emptying out my room? 2012-08-24 00:20:41 cmac: Thank you so much Kimberli 2012-08-24 00:21:12 cmac: I sent you some blessings and love just now 2012-08-24 00:21:24 Holyhellcat: TY 2012-08-24 00:21:34 Holyhellcat: and no Jan, still processing 2012-08-24 00:21:38 Holyhellcat: not as heavily 2012-08-24 00:21:58 Holyhellcat: Can you honestly feel the difference cmac? 2012-08-24 00:23:07 cmac: I'm not sure 2012-08-24 00:23:12 Holyhellcat: Now that it is cleared, meditate ASAP and set up shields around each persons bed, and the whole house and then another one with a 1 block perimeter 2012-08-24 00:23:22 Holyhellcat: you will know 2012-08-24 00:23:25 cmac: but one family member just told me "I feel really good for some reason" 2012-08-24 00:23:30 Holyhellcat: soon enough 2012-08-24 00:23:36 Holyhellcat: 2012-08-24 00:23:38 cmac: ok 2012-08-24 00:23:43 Holyhellcat: 2012-08-24 00:23:46 Holyhellcat: 2012-08-24 00:24:28 jan: Sometimes it shows up in other senses as you stop thinking about it 2012-08-24 00:24:35 Holyhellcat: continue to work on the shields because you have interference from power lines that will continue to disrup if you allow it. If you need my help again, just let me know 2012-08-24 00:25:10 Holyhellcat: yes what you focus on persists 2012-08-24 00:25:24 Holyhellcat: but this was there before he made this his home 2012-08-24 00:25:38 cmac: yeah 2012-08-24 00:25:47 cmac: I was told this was opened a long time ago 2012-08-24 00:25:53 cmac: and it wasn't properly closed 2012-08-24 00:25:53 Holyhellcat: also move a few things around so it will be more difficult for anything to jump in and protect the mirrirs 2012-08-24 00:26:09 Holyhellcat: no it was a bear 2012-08-24 00:26:15 Holyhellcat: and had some power to it 2012-08-24 00:26:20 cmac: a bear? 2012-08-24 00:26:26 Holyhellcat: strong 2012-08-24 00:26:52 Holyhellcat: i had to give it a few minutes normally i can close these puppies in seconds 2012-08-24 00:27:06 jan: What do you mean it was a bear? 2012-08-24 00:27:18 cmac: yeah, I was told before that it was very difficult to close 2012-08-24 00:27:46 cmac: I think the woman who helped to close it though, ended up allowing it to open again, on purpose 2012-08-24 00:29:13 cmac: yeah, I'm interested in what it was that this bear did 2012-08-24 00:29:55 cmac: I was told this occurred hundreds of years ago, whatever it was 2012-08-24 00:30:56 jan: What opens up a vortex? 2012-08-24 00:31:09 Holyhellcat: lots can open a vortex 2012-08-24 00:31:16 Holyhellcat: ususally magic 2012-08-24 00:31:27 Holyhellcat: sometimes things just punch thru 2012-08-24 00:31:49 Holyhellcat: this not only is a vortex but has some sort of weird energy signature over the area 2012-08-24 00:31:59 jan: I read where the philedelphia experiment opened up a vortex which allowed in lower d entities 2012-08-24 00:32:02 cmac: hmmm 2012-08-24 00:32:27 Holyhellcat: The PE ripped the space time continum 2012-08-24 00:32:41 Holyhellcat: so it would not suprise me if it opened portals 2012-08-24 00:32:58 cmac: didn't it allow ET's and craft to enter our reality? 2012-08-24 00:33:25 jan: That is what i read 2012-08-24 00:33:26 cmac: According to Al Bielek 2012-08-24 00:33:32 Holyhellcat: also, cmac use fung shui and crystals to redirct the energy flowing around your place in a more coherent pattern 2012-08-24 00:33:43 cmac: ok, cool, thanks 2012-08-24 00:33:57 jan: Yes, take charge!! 2012-08-24 00:34:06 Holyhellcat: It was right before Roswell, and the sightings have exploded since then 2012-08-24 00:34:29 Holyhellcat: yes, own your power, much better than being a victim 2012-08-24 00:34:37 cmac: oh, yeah 2012-08-24 00:34:43 cmac: I haven't been a victim here 2012-08-24 00:34:55 cmac: likely would have been much, much worse, if I had been 2012-08-24 00:35:10 Holyhellcat: yes 2012-08-24 00:35:14 cmac: I've never been scared really here, well once maybe 2012-08-24 00:35:22 Holyhellcat: at least you are concious enough to be aware of it 2012-08-24 00:35:30 cmac: seemed we likely had a demon here for maybe a week, that I know of 2012-08-24 00:35:46 Holyhellcat: truth is the only open doors in your house should be the ones you open 2012-08-24 00:35:56 Holyhellcat: tell me more 2012-08-24 00:36:16 cmac: well, I had a teacher, spiritual/metaphysical teacher 2012-08-24 00:36:32 cmac: and I started to pick up some things, about her, and basically I had to get away from her 2012-08-24 00:36:35 Holyhellcat: this portal felt as though it was ripping thru time as well as space 2012-08-24 00:36:50 cmac: after I stopped going to classes, things got hairy around our place 2012-08-24 00:37:05 cmac: and I felt she had sent something, that she had her hands in what was going on 2012-08-24 00:37:16 cmac: she may have allowed this portal to open again 2012-08-24 00:37:21 jan: What does that mean, kk? 2012-08-24 00:37:37 cmac: but a psychic friend of mine told me that I had a demon in the house 2012-08-24 00:37:47 cmac: I could feel a heavy energy about the place 2012-08-24 00:38:04 cmac: my best friend came over, and he felt it and he drew a picture of it 2012-08-24 00:38:09 cmac: what he saw in his minds eye 2012-08-24 00:38:24 cmac: I was attacked in astral one night 2012-08-24 00:38:39 cmac: which I don't have bad dreams, or astral attacks, somehow I seem to be protected 2012-08-24 00:38:48 cmac: I've had numerous people tell me this over the years 2012-08-24 00:39:02 cmac: but anyway, I was up in the night after this astral attack 2012-08-24 00:39:21 cmac: I kept looking in the kitchen about 20 feet from me, as if I was sensing something in there 2012-08-24 00:39:23 Holyhellcat: did the demon have horns 2012-08-24 00:39:35 Holyhellcat: and Jan, what do you want me to clarify? 2012-08-24 00:39:38 cmac: oh, crap, you just gave me chills 2012-08-24 00:39:52 Holyhellcat: i do that to people 2012-08-24 00:39:56 cmac: so I was up for maybe an hour after this astral attack 2012-08-24 00:40:00 Holyhellcat: can you describe the horns? 2012-08-24 00:40:14 cmac: I don't even want to think about it lol 2012-08-24 00:40:21 Holyhellcat: ok 2012-08-24 00:40:28 Holyhellcat: things are better now 2012-08-24 00:40:32 cmac: I was up for about an hour, and kept feeling something behind me 2012-08-24 00:40:34 cmac: oh, yeah 2012-08-24 00:40:49 Holyhellcat: it is up to you to work with the unique enegitic signature of your location 2012-08-24 00:40:56 cmac: and then I went to bed, within 20 to 30 minutes I was awakened to our house alarm blaring 2012-08-24 00:41:11 cmac: I jumped out of bed 2012-08-24 00:41:13 Holyhellcat: all that is past... stay in the now 2012-08-24 00:41:23 cmac: it was dark in the house, I ripped my bedroom door open 2012-08-24 00:41:26 Holyhellcat: let it go, it will re open connections 2012-08-24 00:41:31 Holyhellcat: please 2012-08-24 00:41:42 Holyhellcat: right now it is beautiful 2012-08-24 00:41:45 cmac: and I saw some sort of light in the kitchen 2012-08-24 00:41:47 cmac: ok, 2012-08-24 00:41:48 cmac: yeah 2012-08-24 00:41:49 Holyhellcat: infuse your space with love 2012-08-24 00:41:58 Holyhellcat: shield it 2012-08-24 00:42:01 cmac: well, we had a fire in the kitchen 2012-08-24 00:42:04 Holyhellcat: change things around 2012-08-24 00:42:12 Holyhellcat: all tonight before you go to bed 2012-08-24 00:42:18 cmac: ok 2012-08-24 00:42:29 cmac: yeah, I don't talk about it much 2012-08-24 00:42:50 Holyhellcat: all the souls i saw depart were adding fuel to its fire 2012-08-24 00:42:58 Holyhellcat: it has been weakend 2012-08-24 00:43:04 jan: Yes, its the fascination with this that creates the energetic signature that calls it forth again.. B wise 2012-08-24 00:43:06 cmac: yeah, well, that's what I felt at the time 2012-08-24 00:43:15 cmac: agreed Jan 2012-08-24 00:43:47 cmac: we have some friends, that their fascination with what is going on in their house, is definitely fueling more activity in their home 2012-08-24 00:44:06 Holyhellcat: our thoughts create our reality 2012-08-24 00:44:11 cmac: oh, yes 2012-08-24 00:44:18 jan: What do you want to create in your space this time cmac? 2012-08-24 00:44:34 Holyhellcat: i had the pleasure last weekend of going to a place that was "clean" and "clear" 2012-08-24 00:44:41 cmac: oh? 2012-08-24 00:44:49 Holyhellcat: it was the most bizarre feeling 2012-08-24 00:44:55 Holyhellcat: it was not void 2012-08-24 00:45:09 Holyhellcat: nor was it vibrating at a love frequency 2012-08-24 00:45:16 Holyhellcat: but it was clear 2012-08-24 00:45:20 Holyhellcat: completely 2012-08-24 00:45:47 Holyhellcat: it was in OK 2012-08-24 00:45:55 Holyhellcat: very strange feeling 2012-08-24 00:46:04 cmac: yeah, that is strange 2012-08-24 00:46:05 Holyhellcat: nice, acctually 2012-08-24 00:46:10 cmac: why was it "clear"? 2012-08-24 00:46:15 jan: OUTSIDE? 2012-08-24 00:46:23 Holyhellcat: oh, i am still wondering about that 2012-08-24 00:46:29 cmac: I see 2012-08-24 00:46:41 Holyhellcat: a whole area, like a few blocks 2012-08-24 00:47:00 Holyhellcat: at some point in time, someone did some serious work 2012-08-24 00:47:06 jan: Someone must get it 2012-08-24 00:47:45 Holyhellcat: There were both an air force base and a Native Americian reservation close 2012-08-24 00:47:59 Holyhellcat: maybe it was just a neautral ground 2012-08-24 00:48:02 Holyhellcat: ??? 2012-08-24 00:48:17 jan: YEAH 2012-08-24 00:48:29 Holyhellcat: they exist!!! 2012-08-24 00:48:34 cmac: Id love to see what it feels like there 2012-08-24 00:48:59 Holyhellcat: want me to send you the vibration? 2012-08-24 00:49:08 jan: YEAH! 2012-08-24 00:49:15 Holyhellcat: ok jan first 2012-08-24 00:49:18 cmac: ok 2012-08-24 00:49:19 Holyhellcat: here it comes 2012-08-24 00:50:00 Holyhellcat: feel it? 2012-08-24 00:50:13 cmac: I'm ready and willing whenever you want to send it to me 2012-08-24 00:50:20 Holyhellcat: k you now 2012-08-24 00:51:19 Holyhellcat: feel it? 2012-08-24 00:52:01 jan: YES 2012-08-24 00:52:42 jan: It felt like a breathe in and out 2012-08-24 00:52:45 cmac: what did you feel Jan? if you are ok with sharing 2012-08-24 00:53:10 jan: Spreading out 2012-08-24 00:54:32 jan: The absence of conflict 2012-08-24 00:54:58 Holyhellcat: brb 2012-08-24 00:55:04 cmac: sure 2012-08-24 00:56:03 jan: Like space opened up 2012-08-24 00:57:01 cmac: I might have felt a sort of expansion 2012-08-24 00:57:45 jan: Time stands still and everything is alive 2012-08-24 01:02:40 cmac: Well, I really have to get to bed, getting late here 2012-08-24 01:02:58 cmac: Thank you Jan for everything 2012-08-24 01:03:12 cmac: blessings and love and light 2012-08-24 01:04:25 jan: Aloha all good nite 2012-08-24 01:04:35 cmac: Kimberli, thank you so much for all of your insight and for your help 2012-08-24 01:04:47 cmac: Good night Jan 2012-08-24 01:04:52 jan: Hang in there with all ya got ok? 2012-08-24 01:05:00 cmac: yeah, I'm good 2012-08-24 01:05:02 cmac: thank you 2012-08-24 01:06:04 Holyhellcat: k 2012-08-24 01:06:16 cmac: Kimberli, I look forward to reading the log of the first hour o f the chat, the part that I missed completely. Hope to see you back at another chat event 2012-08-24 01:06:31 Holyhellcat: me too this was nice 2012-08-24 01:06:43 cmac: good, I'm glad that you enjoyed it 2012-08-24 01:08:16 Holyhellcat: good night. May everyone who joined in and everyone who reads this stay in the peace and love vibration. 2012-08-24 01:08:30 cmac: yes 2012-08-24 01:08:34 cmac: good night!