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John Titor's Legacy
Alexander's Chat Logs
Part #14 mIRC; Alexanders chat logs for Feb. 22, 2004: Alexander was a friend of John Titor
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<blockquote data-quote="Opmmur" data-source="post: 85341" data-attributes="member: 13"><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #80ff00"><em>mIRC Feb. 22, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX</em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #80ff00"><em>Posted by: Professor Opmmur</em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #80ff00"><em>Session Start: February 22, 07:20, 2004</em></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 18px"><span style="color: #80ff00"><em>Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn</em></span></span></p><p></p><p></p><p>[07:55] * Guest85658 has joined #AlexanderTTonline</p><p>[07:55] * Guest85658 is now known as WarmMuffins</p><p>[07:55] <f0reigner> haa haa haa</p><p>[07:55] <f0reigner> alex muffins where u're somethin real quick ?</p><p>[07:55] * WarmMuffins is eating Wamr Muffins</p><p>[07:56] <f0reigner> obviously <img src="http://z1.ifrm.com/static/emo/2.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>[07:56] * WarmMuffins is now known as AlexanderTT</p><p>[07:56] <AlexanderTT> even I got a sense of humor <img src="http://z1.ifrm.com/static/emo/1.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p>[07:56] <AlexanderTT> so anything interesting while I was gone?</p><p>[07:57] <Edge25> not really</p><p>[07:57] <AlexanderTT> and does anyone have any theories about the post I made that I wanted removed?</p><p>[07:57] <Edge25> which post?</p><p>[07:57] * Jorune sets mode: +o AlexanderTT</p><p>[07:57] <SnowFireWatches> that is exctly what everyone else says when they come in the room alex</p><p>[07:57] <AlexanderTT> really?</p><p>[07:57] <Cyberbomb> the log edge</p><p>[07:58] <AlexanderTT> I thought someone would have figured it out by now, but I guess not, thats a load off of my mind too</p><p>[07:58] <SnowFireWatches> the one where you gave a big clue to TT?</p><p>[07:58] <AlexanderTT> no, a big clue to making microsingularities</p><p>[07:58] <catman1> If someone would have figured it out..then what???</p><p>[07:59] <AlexanderTT> in fact one more sentence and I would have given it away</p><p>[07:59] <SnowFireWatches> yes ok</p><p>[07:59] <AlexanderTT> my divergence would have probably increased significantly</p><p>[07:59] <catman1> We would call CERN and telll them!!</p><p>[07:59] <Edge25> i still don't have a clue what you're talking about. anyone got a link?</p><p>[07:59] <SnowFireWatches> its in one of the logs</p><p>[07:59] <AlexanderTT> i hope theres no link</p><p>[08:00] <SnowFireWatches> it is there alex</p><p>[08:00] <Edge25> the log Jorune just posted?</p><p>[08:00] <SnowFireWatches> not sure and i am not going to go do a search while alex is here</p><p>[08:00] <Edge25> ok</p><p>[08:01] <SnowFireWatches> what exctly would happen if our time figure out TT before yourtime?</p><p>[08:01] <AlexanderTT> well you wouldnt be able to TT, your computers cant handle the calculations, but you could end up destroying yourselves or at best making Kerr blackholes succsessfully</p><p>[08:01] <Edge25> I'm surprised you're still keeping this up Alex, what with Titor being practically debunked and all...</p><p>[08:02] <SnowFireWatches> edge searchthe logs for "volume"</p><p>[08:02] <AlexanderTT> explain Edge25</p><p>[08:02] * GearBrains is now known as GearBrainsAway</p><p>[08:02] <Edge25> <a href="http://www.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=001081;p=8" target="_blank">http://www.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultim...=9;t=001081;p=8</a></p><p>[08:02] <Edge25> ok, Snow. will do</p><p>[08:03] <SnowFireWatches> or "delete"</p><p>[08:03] <SnowFireWatches> it is around that area</p><p>[08:04] <mrmagic526> Debunked depends on you're point of view. People seem to have a hard time believing that technology can change. Several try to base everything off current tech. However 36 years ago my cell phone would have blown people away.</p><p>[08:04] <SnowFireWatches> A;ex you mentioned before that S Hawkings changes his mind about time travel - when does he do that?</p><p>[08:04] <mrmagic526> Knowledge and what we accept as truth continues to change</p><p>[08:05] <mrmagic526> Remember once the Earth was flat. If you said otherwise you were thought of as insane</p><p>[08:05] <Edge25> yeah but mrmagic - people seem to have tracked down the person(s) behind the Titor story</p><p>[08:05] <AlexanderTT> ok Edge25, first of all what are they talking about there, and second, I thought the JT foundation was found out as a fraud</p><p>[08:05] <Jorune> 2/22 Logs now available - <a href="http://www.parous.net/ttlogs/AlexanderTTonline022204.htm" target="_blank">http://www.parous.net/ttlogs/AlexanderTTonline022204.htm</a></p><p>[08:06] * GearBrainsAway is now known as GearBrains</p><p>[08:06] <Edge25> Alex - Rick Donaldson seems to have tracked down the person(s) behind the Titor story</p><p>[08:06] <SnowFireWatches> It is a thread that everyone who wants to prove youout as a fake are clinging to alex, so far it is not quite successful</p><p>[08:06] <SnowFireWatches> the theory is if JT falls you do too</p><p>[08:07] <Edge25> if JT is debunked that automatically means Alex is too - you cannot debate that</p><p>[08:07] <MadIce> It's not a theory, because Alex said JT is part of his past.</p><p>[08:07] <mrmagic526> it doesn't seem to prove anything</p><p>[08:07] <SnowFireWatches> so far the have maybe proven that jtfoundation, jt fan and the book and the audio are connected</p><p>[08:08] <Edge25> they also say that they have tracked down 'Titor'</p><p>[08:08] <mrmagic526> well that doesn't surprise me. Someone decided to make money off of the JT story. So what this is america. No one copyrighted the story just the evidence</p><p>[08:08] <catman1> (AlexanderTT): yes, thanatos1, but can you remove volume and keep mass</p><p>[08:08] <mrmagic526> Well let them prove that</p><p>[08:08] <SnowFireWatches> yes let them now can we move on?</p><p>[08:09] <Edge25> ok</p><p>[08:09] <mrmagic526> They may say they've tracked Titor down but let's see that proof as well</p><p>[08:09] <catman1> (AlexanderTT): the stronger the gravity curvature, the stronger the curvature of time, a clock would slow down appraoching a black hole</p><p>[08:09] <Edge25> agreed - i think proof will soon be made available</p><p>[08:09] <Edge25> and then Alex will be forced into admitting he's a hoax</p><p>[08:09] <SnowFireWatches> ty edge25</p><p>[08:09] <mrmagic526> Well just like the courts are supposed to be. Innocent until Proven guilty (supposed to be like that)</p><p>[08:10] <catman1> I think I posted what Alex is talking about!!</p><p>[08:10] <SnowFireWatches> yes catman you did</p><p>[08:10] <catman1> ok</p><p>[08:10] <SnowFireWatches> edge those are the comments alex was referring to above</p><p>[08:10] <Edge25> yes, i've read them in the logs - interesting</p><p>[08:10] <Cyberbomb> don't we all just love "bash alex" coversations ;P</p><p>[08:11] <catman1> Im not bashing him..just pointing out his statement</p><p>[08:11] <Edge25> Alex - UK is set to emply 1000 more M15 spies. Is this relevant at all in the upcoming conflicts?</p><p>[08:11] <AlexanderTT> so let me get this straight, if they were to track down a greedy person who was behind making money off of John, then they would call him John and say case closed?</p><p>[08:12] <mrmagic526> well I say proof would be the find of his time machine and other things. Not circumstantial evidence</p><p>[08:12] <ZiggyStarchild> Yeah people make money off of other people all the time. It proves nothing.</p><p>[08:12] <MadIce> It's not as simple as that. The JT Foundation will not be the proof, Alex.</p><p>[08:12] <AlexanderTT> especially since, John cannot defend himself</p><p>[08:12] <mrmagic526> exaclty that's america</p><p>[08:12] <Edge25> maybe, but i think they have private info. of the John who posted in 2000 - if that matcheds with the person they're tracking down - I'd say they'd have a lot of evidence to suggest he is JT</p><p>[08:12] <AlexanderTT> he is open to be taken advantage fo like that</p><p>[08:13] <SnowFireWatches> most of us want muchmore than they are providing alex -</p><p>[08:13] <Edge25> Alex - UK is set to emply 1000 more M15 spies. Is this relevant at all in the upcoming conflicts?</p><p>[08:13] <AlexanderTT> well, there will be no strong evidence to prove that a certain person was John</p><p>[08:13] <AlexanderTT> that is impossible</p><p>[08:13] <SnowFireWatches> Your assessment of the thread so far is correct</p><p>[08:13] <SnowFireWatches> they only expose a money making scheme so far</p><p>[08:13] <MadIce> Think about this: If he is a hoax then you and him have taken advantage of your fans.</p><p>[08:13] <AlexanderTT> not that I am aware of Edge25, but then again I dont know what you mean by relevant</p><p>[08:13] <Edge25> ok, lets not talk about that thread for now - i'm sure things'll start to pick up soon though</p><p>[08:14] <mrmagic526> the only thing I see would prove it is to find the time machine in the photo's sitting in his garage.</p><p>[08:14] <Edge25> exactly mrmagic - they think they know the location of the 'time machine'</p><p>[08:14] <AlexanderTT> haa haa haa, in his garage</p><p>[08:14] * AlexanderTT wonders if someone is outside right now taking pictures of his</p><p>[08:15] <AlexanderTT> haa haa haa</p><p>[08:15] <ZiggyStarchild> Yes mrmagic i agree. But if he's got any brains he would have dismantled it by now. If he's a hoax i mean.</p><p>[08:15] <AlexanderTT> i think someone will try to duplicate it , visually, then post pictures and claim they found it</p><p>[08:15] <mrmagic526> true</p><p>[08:15] <Edge25> Alex - do you think KPAX has really reported you to the feds?</p><p>[08:15] <AlexanderTT> when did he say he reported me to the feds?</p><p>[08:16] <mrmagic526> but circumstantial evidence I won't accept for me to believe it, it would have to be able to pass in a court of law. (real court not some of what we have now)</p><p>[08:16] <AlexanderTT> show url</p><p>[08:16] <Edge25> 2 days ago i think</p><p>[08:16] <SnowFireWatches> the day he interogated you</p><p>[08:16] <Edge25> i don't think he was serious</p><p>[08:16] <Edge25> but i cannot be sure</p><p>[08:16] <AlexanderTT> url</p><p>[08:16] <SnowFireWatches> i have a copy of his supposed letter to them</p><p>[08:16] <AlexanderTT> url</p><p>[08:16] <Cyberbomb> yeah, kpax claims he reported u, sumone find teh logs</p><p>[08:16] <MadIce> Alex didn't give ANY evidence. So I can safely assume Alex is a hoax until proven otherwise.</p><p>[08:17] <AlexanderTT> I hope you assume that MadIce, especially with feds now possible involved</p><p>[08:17] <ZiggyStarchild> <a href="http://www.parous.net/ttlogs/AlexanderTTonline022104.htm" target="_blank">http://www.parous.net/ttlogs/AlexanderTTonline022104.htm</a></p><p>[08:17] <AlexanderTT> i hope they assume that too</p><p>[08:17] <MadIce> They should be involved.</p><p>[08:17] <Edge25> <a href="http://www.parous.net/ttlogs/AlexanderTTonline022104.htm" target="_blank">http://www.parous.net/ttlogs/AlexanderTTonline022104.htm</a> at 13:32 Alex</p><p>[08:17] <AlexanderTT> ok he's lying</p><p>[08:18] <ZiggyStarchild> what makes you so sure?</p><p>[08:18] <AlexanderTT> trust me</p><p>[08:18] <AlexanderTT> he says I have two ip address's</p><p>[08:18] <AlexanderTT> he's wrong</p><p>[08:18] <Edge25> you do, and one of them is in Fort Lauderdale</p><p>[08:18] <ZiggyStarchild> You can have more than one IP. I do to</p><p>[08:18] <Cyberbomb> (KPAX): i ahve sent the 2 ISP addresses to the feds</p><p>[08:18] <AlexanderTT> howcome, everytime someone says they trace my ip, its in a different spot?</p><p>[08:19] <Cyberbomb> <a href="http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Emadice/AlexanderTT%2020040220B.txt" target="_blank">http://www.xs4all.nl/~madice/AlexanderTT%2020040220B.txt</a></p><p>[08:19] <SnowFireWatches> haa haa haa good question - its because they arent as slick as they think they are</p><p>[08:19] <Edge25> i know that he had 2 IP adresses of you Alex, one was Fort Lauderdale and the other was Alabama i think</p><p>[08:19] <AlexanderTT> now I would actually be worried if someone actually said, "I traced it to Alabama"</p><p>[08:19] <Cyberbomb> your CS friend might hav made it so that u bounce your connections while connecting to the internet</p><p>[08:19] <ZiggyStarchild> You can use a proxy and it'll show your 1/2 way on the other side of earth</p><p>[08:20] <AlexanderTT> no he said he tracked me down in Georgia</p><p>[08:20] <AlexanderTT> wow, maybe he did</p><p>[08:20] <AlexanderTT> that would be neat</p><p>[08:20] <MadIce> It's not worth to really track you down yet. If JT goes then you go.</p><p>[08:20] <Edge25> yeah that's the one - Georgia not Alabama</p><p>[08:20] <ZiggyStarchild> Georgia is one hour dif than Alabama right?</p><p>[08:20] <AlexanderTT> and if he is proven right? and I am proven right? would you show up at my doorstep MadIce????</p><p>[08:21] <SnowFireWatches> Since we all agree that if JT falls Alex falls can we get to some questions that may have a bearing on our future?</p><p>[08:21] <AlexanderTT> my question first please</p><p>[08:21] <SnowFireWatches> which was? sorry alex?</p><p>[08:21] <AlexanderTT> and if he is proven right? and I am proven right? would you show up at my doorstep MadIce????</p><p>[08:22] <AlexanderTT> or anyone not just madice</p><p>[08:22] <Edge25> if who is proven right?</p><p>[08:22] <AlexanderTT> JT and me</p><p>[08:22] <AlexanderTT> would it then be worthy of your time to find me?</p><p>[08:22] <Edge25> no</p><p>[08:23] <Edge25> i would prepare for the future</p><p>[08:23] <SnowFireWatches> I would feel sad that we didn;t try to learn more about possible future events and how to change them while you were her. Becasue surelyif you are real and still here, they will get you if they can.</p><p>[08:23] <f0reigner> sry u're doorstep is just too far from mine ..</p><p>[08:23] <SnowFireWatches> I would not go to your - chatting would be fine.</p><p>[08:23] <Edge25> i wouldn't waste my time trecking all over Alabama</p><p>[08:23] <SnowFireWatches> to your door</p><p>[08:23] <f0reigner> exactly</p><p>[08:23] <AlexanderTT> thats a releif</p><p>[08:23] <ZiggyStarchild> No way I'm stayin in TX</p><p>[08:23] <f0reigner> showin up is just a waste of time</p><p>[08:23] <Edge25> i still don't understand why you cannot show us scans of your manual and photos of your time machine Alex - just like Titor did.</p><p>[08:23] <AlexanderTT> thats the only scenario I worry about</p><p>[08:24] <AlexanderTT> who says I havent?</p><p>[08:24] <Edge25> you have photos of your time machine?</p><p>[08:24] <AlexanderTT> i have photos of several C404's not mine though</p><p>[08:24] <AlexanderTT> its in the manual</p><p>[08:25] <AlexanderTT> but I plan on taking photos of mine</p><p>[08:25] <Edge25> why could you not post them online?</p><p>[08:25] <AlexanderTT> who says I haven't?</p><p>[08:25] <Cyberbomb> he don't have scanner ;P</p><p>[08:25] <Cyberbomb> =o</p><p>[08:25] <ZiggyStarchild> I would like you to do it today</p><p>[08:25] <ZiggyStarchild> If you have please provide the link</p><p>[08:25] <Edge25> have you posted photos of a time machine online?</p><p>[08:26] <AlexanderTT> I have shared, what you and KPAX would call "proof" with 2 people, they will not be returning here again or the forum</p><p>[08:26] <SnowFireWatches> now that is interesting</p><p>[08:26] <Edge25> who were they? and why will they not return?</p><p>[08:26] <SnowFireWatches> why wont they be returning?</p><p>[08:26] <catman1> I would not show up at your doorstep!!! Your a cool guy true or false!!!</p><p>[08:26] <AlexanderTT> they wish to speak to me privately now, the proof conversation just destracts from what I want to say</p><p>[08:26] <Edge25> they're online now?</p><p>[08:26] <AlexanderTT> I am speaking to one right now</p><p>[08:27] <SnowFireWatches> i can understand that</p><p>[08:27] <AlexanderTT> but no, on my request they will not disclose the pictures</p><p>[08:27] <AlexanderTT> but you will see them</p><p>[08:27] <ZiggyStarchild> What would it hurt?</p><p>[08:27] <Edge25> John Titor posted pictures of his time machine online for potentially millions to see - why could you not do the same?</p><p>[08:27] <ZiggyStarchild> Yes he did.</p><p>[08:28] <AlexanderTT> well lets see ZiggyStarchild. didnt I just here something about feds??</p><p>[08:28] <SnowFireWatches> the posting of those pics did not make JT anymore believed</p><p>[08:28] <SnowFireWatches> so why would it change you guysmind about alex?</p><p>[08:28] * vlady has joined #AlexanderTTOnline</p><p>[08:28] <vlady> hi everyone</p><p>[08:28] * SnowFireWatches sets mode: +v vlady</p><p>[08:28] <SnowFireWatches> hi vlady</p><p>[08:28] <GearBrains> hi vlad</p><p>[08:28] <AlexanderTT> i think you want pictures, just to try and debunk them</p><p>[08:28] <Edge25> if you posted them online - first of all 95% of people would still think its a load of BS, and secondly if you're worried about the feds - they didn't track Titor down did they?</p><p>[08:28] <Cyberbomb> hey v =D</p><p>[08:29] <catman1> Alex is it possible for you to be true and JT false???</p><p>[08:29] <ZiggyStarchild> Last I knew about the law TT has not been made illegal yet.</p><p>[08:29] * algol_aida has joined #alexanderttonline</p><p>[08:29] <Edge25> why would the feds want to track you down anyway?</p><p>[08:29] <ZiggyStarchild> Are you doing something else illegal Alex?</p><p>[08:29] <Edge25> what would they have to gain?</p><p>[08:29] <SnowFireWatches> haa haa haa catman1</p><p>[08:29] <ZiggyStarchild> I'm not trying to badger really. Just want to know.</p><p>[08:29] <ZiggyStarchild> If you haven't done anything against the law than why worry?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Opmmur, post: 85341, member: 13"] [SIZE=5][COLOR=#80ff00][I]mIRC Feb. 22, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX[/I] [I]Posted by: Professor Opmmur[/I] [I]Session Start: February 22, 07:20, 2004[/I] [I]Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn[/I][/COLOR][/SIZE] [07:55] * Guest85658 has joined #AlexanderTTonline [07:55] * Guest85658 is now known as WarmMuffins [07:55] <f0reigner> haa haa haa [07:55] <f0reigner> alex muffins where u're somethin real quick ? [07:55] * WarmMuffins is eating Wamr Muffins [07:56] <f0reigner> obviously [IMG]http://z1.ifrm.com/static/emo/2.png[/IMG] [07:56] * WarmMuffins is now known as AlexanderTT [07:56] <AlexanderTT> even I got a sense of humor [IMG]http://z1.ifrm.com/static/emo/1.png[/IMG] [07:56] <AlexanderTT> so anything interesting while I was gone? [07:57] <Edge25> not really [07:57] <AlexanderTT> and does anyone have any theories about the post I made that I wanted removed? [07:57] <Edge25> which post? [07:57] * Jorune sets mode: +o AlexanderTT [07:57] <SnowFireWatches> that is exctly what everyone else says when they come in the room alex [07:57] <AlexanderTT> really? [07:57] <Cyberbomb> the log edge [07:58] <AlexanderTT> I thought someone would have figured it out by now, but I guess not, thats a load off of my mind too [07:58] <SnowFireWatches> the one where you gave a big clue to TT? [07:58] <AlexanderTT> no, a big clue to making microsingularities [07:58] <catman1> If someone would have figured it out..then what??? [07:59] <AlexanderTT> in fact one more sentence and I would have given it away [07:59] <SnowFireWatches> yes ok [07:59] <AlexanderTT> my divergence would have probably increased significantly [07:59] <catman1> We would call CERN and telll them!! [07:59] <Edge25> i still don't have a clue what you're talking about. anyone got a link? [07:59] <SnowFireWatches> its in one of the logs [07:59] <AlexanderTT> i hope theres no link [08:00] <SnowFireWatches> it is there alex [08:00] <Edge25> the log Jorune just posted? [08:00] <SnowFireWatches> not sure and i am not going to go do a search while alex is here [08:00] <Edge25> ok [08:01] <SnowFireWatches> what exctly would happen if our time figure out TT before yourtime? [08:01] <AlexanderTT> well you wouldnt be able to TT, your computers cant handle the calculations, but you could end up destroying yourselves or at best making Kerr blackholes succsessfully [08:01] <Edge25> I'm surprised you're still keeping this up Alex, what with Titor being practically debunked and all... [08:02] <SnowFireWatches> edge searchthe logs for "volume" [08:02] <AlexanderTT> explain Edge25 [08:02] * GearBrains is now known as GearBrainsAway [08:02] <Edge25> [URL='http://www.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=9;t=001081;p=8']http://www.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultim...=9;t=001081;p=8[/URL] [08:02] <Edge25> ok, Snow. will do [08:03] <SnowFireWatches> or "delete" [08:03] <SnowFireWatches> it is around that area [08:04] <mrmagic526> Debunked depends on you're point of view. People seem to have a hard time believing that technology can change. Several try to base everything off current tech. However 36 years ago my cell phone would have blown people away. [08:04] <SnowFireWatches> A;ex you mentioned before that S Hawkings changes his mind about time travel - when does he do that? [08:04] <mrmagic526> Knowledge and what we accept as truth continues to change [08:05] <mrmagic526> Remember once the Earth was flat. If you said otherwise you were thought of as insane [08:05] <Edge25> yeah but mrmagic - people seem to have tracked down the person(s) behind the Titor story [08:05] <AlexanderTT> ok Edge25, first of all what are they talking about there, and second, I thought the JT foundation was found out as a fraud [08:05] <Jorune> 2/22 Logs now available - [url="http://www.parous.net/ttlogs/AlexanderTTonline022204.htm"]http://www.parous.net/ttlogs/AlexanderTTonline022204.htm[/url] [08:06] * GearBrainsAway is now known as GearBrains [08:06] <Edge25> Alex - Rick Donaldson seems to have tracked down the person(s) behind the Titor story [08:06] <SnowFireWatches> It is a thread that everyone who wants to prove youout as a fake are clinging to alex, so far it is not quite successful [08:06] <SnowFireWatches> the theory is if JT falls you do too [08:07] <Edge25> if JT is debunked that automatically means Alex is too - you cannot debate that [08:07] <MadIce> It's not a theory, because Alex said JT is part of his past. [08:07] <mrmagic526> it doesn't seem to prove anything [08:07] <SnowFireWatches> so far the have maybe proven that jtfoundation, jt fan and the book and the audio are connected [08:08] <Edge25> they also say that they have tracked down 'Titor' [08:08] <mrmagic526> well that doesn't surprise me. Someone decided to make money off of the JT story. So what this is america. No one copyrighted the story just the evidence [08:08] <catman1> (AlexanderTT): yes, thanatos1, but can you remove volume and keep mass [08:08] <mrmagic526> Well let them prove that [08:08] <SnowFireWatches> yes let them now can we move on? [08:09] <Edge25> ok [08:09] <mrmagic526> They may say they've tracked Titor down but let's see that proof as well [08:09] <catman1> (AlexanderTT): the stronger the gravity curvature, the stronger the curvature of time, a clock would slow down appraoching a black hole [08:09] <Edge25> agreed - i think proof will soon be made available [08:09] <Edge25> and then Alex will be forced into admitting he's a hoax [08:09] <SnowFireWatches> ty edge25 [08:09] <mrmagic526> Well just like the courts are supposed to be. Innocent until Proven guilty (supposed to be like that) [08:10] <catman1> I think I posted what Alex is talking about!! [08:10] <SnowFireWatches> yes catman you did [08:10] <catman1> ok [08:10] <SnowFireWatches> edge those are the comments alex was referring to above [08:10] <Edge25> yes, i've read them in the logs - interesting [08:10] <Cyberbomb> don't we all just love "bash alex" coversations ;P [08:11] <catman1> Im not bashing him..just pointing out his statement [08:11] <Edge25> Alex - UK is set to emply 1000 more M15 spies. Is this relevant at all in the upcoming conflicts? [08:11] <AlexanderTT> so let me get this straight, if they were to track down a greedy person who was behind making money off of John, then they would call him John and say case closed? [08:12] <mrmagic526> well I say proof would be the find of his time machine and other things. Not circumstantial evidence [08:12] <ZiggyStarchild> Yeah people make money off of other people all the time. It proves nothing. [08:12] <MadIce> It's not as simple as that. The JT Foundation will not be the proof, Alex. [08:12] <AlexanderTT> especially since, John cannot defend himself [08:12] <mrmagic526> exaclty that's america [08:12] <Edge25> maybe, but i think they have private info. of the John who posted in 2000 - if that matcheds with the person they're tracking down - I'd say they'd have a lot of evidence to suggest he is JT [08:12] <AlexanderTT> he is open to be taken advantage fo like that [08:13] <SnowFireWatches> most of us want muchmore than they are providing alex - [08:13] <Edge25> Alex - UK is set to emply 1000 more M15 spies. Is this relevant at all in the upcoming conflicts? [08:13] <AlexanderTT> well, there will be no strong evidence to prove that a certain person was John [08:13] <AlexanderTT> that is impossible [08:13] <SnowFireWatches> Your assessment of the thread so far is correct [08:13] <SnowFireWatches> they only expose a money making scheme so far [08:13] <MadIce> Think about this: If he is a hoax then you and him have taken advantage of your fans. [08:13] <AlexanderTT> not that I am aware of Edge25, but then again I dont know what you mean by relevant [08:13] <Edge25> ok, lets not talk about that thread for now - i'm sure things'll start to pick up soon though [08:14] <mrmagic526> the only thing I see would prove it is to find the time machine in the photo's sitting in his garage. [08:14] <Edge25> exactly mrmagic - they think they know the location of the 'time machine' [08:14] <AlexanderTT> haa haa haa, in his garage [08:14] * AlexanderTT wonders if someone is outside right now taking pictures of his [08:15] <AlexanderTT> haa haa haa [08:15] <ZiggyStarchild> Yes mrmagic i agree. But if he's got any brains he would have dismantled it by now. If he's a hoax i mean. [08:15] <AlexanderTT> i think someone will try to duplicate it , visually, then post pictures and claim they found it [08:15] <mrmagic526> true [08:15] <Edge25> Alex - do you think KPAX has really reported you to the feds? [08:15] <AlexanderTT> when did he say he reported me to the feds? [08:16] <mrmagic526> but circumstantial evidence I won't accept for me to believe it, it would have to be able to pass in a court of law. (real court not some of what we have now) [08:16] <AlexanderTT> show url [08:16] <Edge25> 2 days ago i think [08:16] <SnowFireWatches> the day he interogated you [08:16] <Edge25> i don't think he was serious [08:16] <Edge25> but i cannot be sure [08:16] <AlexanderTT> url [08:16] <SnowFireWatches> i have a copy of his supposed letter to them [08:16] <AlexanderTT> url [08:16] <Cyberbomb> yeah, kpax claims he reported u, sumone find teh logs [08:16] <MadIce> Alex didn't give ANY evidence. So I can safely assume Alex is a hoax until proven otherwise. [08:17] <AlexanderTT> I hope you assume that MadIce, especially with feds now possible involved [08:17] <ZiggyStarchild> [url="http://www.parous.net/ttlogs/AlexanderTTonline022104.htm"]http://www.parous.net/ttlogs/AlexanderTTonline022104.htm[/url] [08:17] <AlexanderTT> i hope they assume that too [08:17] <MadIce> They should be involved. [08:17] <Edge25> [url="http://www.parous.net/ttlogs/AlexanderTTonline022104.htm"]http://www.parous.net/ttlogs/AlexanderTTonline022104.htm[/url] at 13:32 Alex [08:17] <AlexanderTT> ok he's lying [08:18] <ZiggyStarchild> what makes you so sure? [08:18] <AlexanderTT> trust me [08:18] <AlexanderTT> he says I have two ip address's [08:18] <AlexanderTT> he's wrong [08:18] <Edge25> you do, and one of them is in Fort Lauderdale [08:18] <ZiggyStarchild> You can have more than one IP. I do to [08:18] <Cyberbomb> (KPAX): i ahve sent the 2 ISP addresses to the feds [08:18] <AlexanderTT> howcome, everytime someone says they trace my ip, its in a different spot? [08:19] <Cyberbomb> [URL='http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Emadice/AlexanderTT%2020040220B.txt']http://www.xs4all.nl/~madice/AlexanderTT%2020040220B.txt[/URL] [08:19] <SnowFireWatches> haa haa haa good question - its because they arent as slick as they think they are [08:19] <Edge25> i know that he had 2 IP adresses of you Alex, one was Fort Lauderdale and the other was Alabama i think [08:19] <AlexanderTT> now I would actually be worried if someone actually said, "I traced it to Alabama" [08:19] <Cyberbomb> your CS friend might hav made it so that u bounce your connections while connecting to the internet [08:19] <ZiggyStarchild> You can use a proxy and it'll show your 1/2 way on the other side of earth [08:20] <AlexanderTT> no he said he tracked me down in Georgia [08:20] <AlexanderTT> wow, maybe he did [08:20] <AlexanderTT> that would be neat [08:20] <MadIce> It's not worth to really track you down yet. If JT goes then you go. [08:20] <Edge25> yeah that's the one - Georgia not Alabama [08:20] <ZiggyStarchild> Georgia is one hour dif than Alabama right? [08:20] <AlexanderTT> and if he is proven right? and I am proven right? would you show up at my doorstep MadIce???? [08:21] <SnowFireWatches> Since we all agree that if JT falls Alex falls can we get to some questions that may have a bearing on our future? [08:21] <AlexanderTT> my question first please [08:21] <SnowFireWatches> which was? sorry alex? [08:21] <AlexanderTT> and if he is proven right? and I am proven right? would you show up at my doorstep MadIce???? [08:22] <AlexanderTT> or anyone not just madice [08:22] <Edge25> if who is proven right? [08:22] <AlexanderTT> JT and me [08:22] <AlexanderTT> would it then be worthy of your time to find me? [08:22] <Edge25> no [08:23] <Edge25> i would prepare for the future [08:23] <SnowFireWatches> I would feel sad that we didn;t try to learn more about possible future events and how to change them while you were her. Becasue surelyif you are real and still here, they will get you if they can. [08:23] <f0reigner> sry u're doorstep is just too far from mine .. [08:23] <SnowFireWatches> I would not go to your - chatting would be fine. [08:23] <Edge25> i wouldn't waste my time trecking all over Alabama [08:23] <SnowFireWatches> to your door [08:23] <f0reigner> exactly [08:23] <AlexanderTT> thats a releif [08:23] <ZiggyStarchild> No way I'm stayin in TX [08:23] <f0reigner> showin up is just a waste of time [08:23] <Edge25> i still don't understand why you cannot show us scans of your manual and photos of your time machine Alex - just like Titor did. [08:23] <AlexanderTT> thats the only scenario I worry about [08:24] <AlexanderTT> who says I havent? [08:24] <Edge25> you have photos of your time machine? [08:24] <AlexanderTT> i have photos of several C404's not mine though [08:24] <AlexanderTT> its in the manual [08:25] <AlexanderTT> but I plan on taking photos of mine [08:25] <Edge25> why could you not post them online? [08:25] <AlexanderTT> who says I haven't? [08:25] <Cyberbomb> he don't have scanner ;P [08:25] <Cyberbomb> =o [08:25] <ZiggyStarchild> I would like you to do it today [08:25] <ZiggyStarchild> If you have please provide the link [08:25] <Edge25> have you posted photos of a time machine online? [08:26] <AlexanderTT> I have shared, what you and KPAX would call "proof" with 2 people, they will not be returning here again or the forum [08:26] <SnowFireWatches> now that is interesting [08:26] <Edge25> who were they? and why will they not return? [08:26] <SnowFireWatches> why wont they be returning? [08:26] <catman1> I would not show up at your doorstep!!! Your a cool guy true or false!!! [08:26] <AlexanderTT> they wish to speak to me privately now, the proof conversation just destracts from what I want to say [08:26] <Edge25> they're online now? [08:26] <AlexanderTT> I am speaking to one right now [08:27] <SnowFireWatches> i can understand that [08:27] <AlexanderTT> but no, on my request they will not disclose the pictures [08:27] <AlexanderTT> but you will see them [08:27] <ZiggyStarchild> What would it hurt? [08:27] <Edge25> John Titor posted pictures of his time machine online for potentially millions to see - why could you not do the same? [08:27] <ZiggyStarchild> Yes he did. [08:28] <AlexanderTT> well lets see ZiggyStarchild. didnt I just here something about feds?? [08:28] <SnowFireWatches> the posting of those pics did not make JT anymore believed [08:28] <SnowFireWatches> so why would it change you guysmind about alex? [08:28] * vlady has joined #AlexanderTTOnline [08:28] <vlady> hi everyone [08:28] * SnowFireWatches sets mode: +v vlady [08:28] <SnowFireWatches> hi vlady [08:28] <GearBrains> hi vlad [08:28] <AlexanderTT> i think you want pictures, just to try and debunk them [08:28] <Edge25> if you posted them online - first of all 95% of people would still think its a load of BS, and secondly if you're worried about the feds - they didn't track Titor down did they? [08:28] <Cyberbomb> hey v =D [08:29] <catman1> Alex is it possible for you to be true and JT false??? [08:29] <ZiggyStarchild> Last I knew about the law TT has not been made illegal yet. [08:29] * algol_aida has joined #alexanderttonline [08:29] <Edge25> why would the feds want to track you down anyway? [08:29] <ZiggyStarchild> Are you doing something else illegal Alex? [08:29] <Edge25> what would they have to gain? [08:29] <SnowFireWatches> haa haa haa catman1 [08:29] <ZiggyStarchild> I'm not trying to badger really. Just want to know. [08:29] <ZiggyStarchild> If you haven't done anything against the law than why worry? [/QUOTE]
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