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<blockquote data-quote="pauli" data-source="post: 12610" data-attributes="member: 88"><p><strong>People talking of splitting USA (red-blue map)</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Hi Phil,</p><p></p><p>You bring up a very important point. The difference between America and Europe is that America, for the most part, is NOT a strictly Class system sort of country. Our definitions of Social Class are a lot more fluid. People who are on the bottom rungs of society are not destined to end up there; people at the top are not destined to stay there. Someone can, through hard work and dedication, work their way up the ladder and become extremely wealthy, no matter what their background. This should be taken into consideration.</p><p></p><p>I have heard people say on other forums that Titor's War is based upon racial distinctions, class distinctions, etc. But I don't think that form of definition fits. We are not primed for a Marxist interpretation of societal dissatisfaction. (This does not mean that there are people who aren't upset about their S.E.S., but it is possible to work oneself out of their class background.) I would say, given the split in the country, what we are really looking at, is a split in differences of values systems. We have a, more-or-less, Secular Elite that is more in line with European thinking and a Traditional Religious/Conservative group that holds to the values that were established by the Constitutional framers. (I know I am going to get flamed for this one. :dry: )</p><p></p><p>Whenever I hear people talk about historical events, as if they are going to repeat exactly as they did in the past, I have to pause. Will we see another Hitler rise to power? Please, don't insult my intelligence. History might repeat itself, from time to time, but it never repeats itself in exactly the same way. Could fascism hit America? It is possible, but, again, it won't happen in that exact same way. The same is true for Communism. It could arise, but not in the same way. Fascism and Communism, the failed philosophies of Europe, are truly not that far apart in their philosophy. Both were totalitarian in nature. Both produced horrible, regimes that were anti-religion and killed millions of innocent people. It could happen here, however, don't look for it to be exactly the same. It will probably be an entirely new monster.</p><p></p><p>What I believe Titor's War is about is the difference between the Secular Left and the Religious Right. Of course, I could be wrong about this one.</p><p></p><p>Change that, it will either be an entirely new monster... or a new twist on one of the old monsters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pauli, post: 12610, member: 88"] [b]People talking of splitting USA (red-blue map)[/b] Hi Phil, You bring up a very important point. The difference between America and Europe is that America, for the most part, is NOT a strictly Class system sort of country. Our definitions of Social Class are a lot more fluid. People who are on the bottom rungs of society are not destined to end up there; people at the top are not destined to stay there. Someone can, through hard work and dedication, work their way up the ladder and become extremely wealthy, no matter what their background. This should be taken into consideration. I have heard people say on other forums that Titor's War is based upon racial distinctions, class distinctions, etc. But I don't think that form of definition fits. We are not primed for a Marxist interpretation of societal dissatisfaction. (This does not mean that there are people who aren't upset about their S.E.S., but it is possible to work oneself out of their class background.) I would say, given the split in the country, what we are really looking at, is a split in differences of values systems. We have a, more-or-less, Secular Elite that is more in line with European thinking and a Traditional Religious/Conservative group that holds to the values that were established by the Constitutional framers. (I know I am going to get flamed for this one. :dry: ) Whenever I hear people talk about historical events, as if they are going to repeat exactly as they did in the past, I have to pause. Will we see another Hitler rise to power? Please, don't insult my intelligence. History might repeat itself, from time to time, but it never repeats itself in exactly the same way. Could fascism hit America? It is possible, but, again, it won't happen in that exact same way. The same is true for Communism. It could arise, but not in the same way. Fascism and Communism, the failed philosophies of Europe, are truly not that far apart in their philosophy. Both were totalitarian in nature. Both produced horrible, regimes that were anti-religion and killed millions of innocent people. It could happen here, however, don't look for it to be exactly the same. It will probably be an entirely new monster. What I believe Titor's War is about is the difference between the Secular Left and the Religious Right. Of course, I could be wrong about this one. Change that, it will either be an entirely new monster... or a new twist on one of the old monsters. [/QUOTE]
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