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Philosophical descrepancies in JT story
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<blockquote data-quote="pauli" data-source="post: 6988" data-attributes="member: 88"><p><strong>Philosophical descrepancies in JT story</strong></p><p></p><p>Hey SnowFireWatches! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite38" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ok, call me naiev and all, but I am not ready to see our gov't as being that bad. It is possible, I know that, but I am not yet that cynical. I would have to see more evidence to support it first. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Our country may have taken a wrong turn somewhere, but as to it being this?? Again, I am not this cynical yet. In the overall picture, we have a clash of ideas in the Western world today and in the end one of the philosophies will come out on top. Here is a link to an article that spells it out better than I can. (I could do it and all, but why reinvent the wheel??) </p><p><a href="http://www.townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/dp20030225.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.townhall.com/columnists/dennisp...p20030225.shtml</a></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As to the Patriot Act, I am in a "wait and see" mode. I agree it could be misused, however, we have had Presidents in the past restrict Civil Liberties and when the situation was over, they reinstated them without a problem. There is precedent for differences between war time rules and peace time rules. If, however, I start seeing the sorts of gross abuses mentioned by Titor... I will not keep my eyes or my mouth closed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ah yes, the polarization issue. (btw I am not saying that in a condescending or dismissive way.) I also see the polarization in our society. Whether we like it or not, there are two different value systems at work in the US right now. In fact those systems came into being in the 1960's and have continued to this day. There are those who adhere to a more, or less, socialistic sort of frame of reference, and those who do not. The divide runs down a philosophical, religious and political basis. The article listed above covers that. It is truly a wound which has not healed. It also, to my mind, has a spiritual basis. I can tell you on the other side there is a real fear about those whose patriotism includes the UN. We are not too happy about a US gov't that seeks to bring the UN, a governing body which is doubtful at best into American politics. (for instance, note how their "peacekeepers" are the first to run when the bullets begin to fly. I have heard them called the "United Nothing" by people in the ME.) So, yes, you are correct there is a polarization.</p><p></p><p>Oh, I have something here I thought might be interesting. It came from a man who said he had a Near Death Experience and was given 13 visions (in the form of boxes) regarding future events. The man's name is Dannion Brinkley. He mentioned the possibility of a WWIII. I will quote one of his paragraphs under the title of <u>The Final Visions</u>:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Of course, this bit caught my eye because I read it months after having read all about the Titor stuff. It seemed kind of prophetic in its own way. So, I guess this comes back to the paranoia stuff I wrote in one of my other posts. People are afraid of the other people's (other sides?) patriotism and how that is expressed; but that fear is kind of like the people in the burning building - everyone is rushing out at the same time in a panic, thinking only of their own skins, and the result is that a great (unnecessary) tragedy results. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite40" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pauli, post: 6988, member: 88"] [b]Philosophical descrepancies in JT story[/b] Hey SnowFireWatches! :) Ok, call me naiev and all, but I am not ready to see our gov't as being that bad. It is possible, I know that, but I am not yet that cynical. I would have to see more evidence to support it first. Our country may have taken a wrong turn somewhere, but as to it being this?? Again, I am not this cynical yet. In the overall picture, we have a clash of ideas in the Western world today and in the end one of the philosophies will come out on top. Here is a link to an article that spells it out better than I can. (I could do it and all, but why reinvent the wheel??) [url=http://www.townhall.com/columnists/dennisprager/dp20030225.shtml]http://www.townhall.com/columnists/dennisp...p20030225.shtml[/url] As to the Patriot Act, I am in a "wait and see" mode. I agree it could be misused, however, we have had Presidents in the past restrict Civil Liberties and when the situation was over, they reinstated them without a problem. There is precedent for differences between war time rules and peace time rules. If, however, I start seeing the sorts of gross abuses mentioned by Titor... I will not keep my eyes or my mouth closed. Ah yes, the polarization issue. (btw I am not saying that in a condescending or dismissive way.) I also see the polarization in our society. Whether we like it or not, there are two different value systems at work in the US right now. In fact those systems came into being in the 1960's and have continued to this day. There are those who adhere to a more, or less, socialistic sort of frame of reference, and those who do not. The divide runs down a philosophical, religious and political basis. The article listed above covers that. It is truly a wound which has not healed. It also, to my mind, has a spiritual basis. I can tell you on the other side there is a real fear about those whose patriotism includes the UN. We are not too happy about a US gov't that seeks to bring the UN, a governing body which is doubtful at best into American politics. (for instance, note how their "peacekeepers" are the first to run when the bullets begin to fly. I have heard them called the "United Nothing" by people in the ME.) So, yes, you are correct there is a polarization. Oh, I have something here I thought might be interesting. It came from a man who said he had a Near Death Experience and was given 13 visions (in the form of boxes) regarding future events. The man's name is Dannion Brinkley. He mentioned the possibility of a WWIII. I will quote one of his paragraphs under the title of [u]The Final Visions[/u]: Of course, this bit caught my eye because I read it months after having read all about the Titor stuff. It seemed kind of prophetic in its own way. So, I guess this comes back to the paranoia stuff I wrote in one of my other posts. People are afraid of the other people's (other sides?) patriotism and how that is expressed; but that fear is kind of like the people in the burning building - everyone is rushing out at the same time in a panic, thinking only of their own skins, and the result is that a great (unnecessary) tragedy results. :( [/QUOTE]
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