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<blockquote data-quote="CaryP" data-source="post: 7008" data-attributes="member: 34"><p><strong>Philosophical descrepancies in JT story</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Lonewolf,</p><p></p><p>Sounds like you and I have seen some of the same material. Big question about WTC 7 isn't there? </p><p></p><p>Larry Silverstein, the owner of the entire WTC complex, is interviewed on a post 9/11 events video tape produced by PBS called "Rebuilding America". In this program Mr. Silverstein talks about the destruction of WTC 7. He says that the decision was made to "pull the building" on the afternoon of 9/11 because of damage to the building. The term "pull the building" is used by demolition experts to describe the controlled demolition of buildings. </p><p></p><p>You've seen them on TV. An old building is scheduled for destruction. It takes months for the preparation and execution of such events. </p><p></p><p>1)The structure and plans of the building have to be obtained and studied by the demolition crew. </p><p>2)Permits have to obtained and demolition times have to be coordinated with law enforcement and fire officials. </p><p>3)Explosives have to be acquired. </p><p>4)Demolition charges and wiring must be placed strategically throughout the to-be-destroyed building. </p><p>5)All the wiring has to be run through a control board that will ensure that demolition charges are detonated in the proper sequence to bring the building down in a controlled manner to minimize the area of rubble post-demolition. </p><p></p><p>I'm no demolitions expert but, IT TAKES MONTHS TO DO THIS. WTC 7 was "pulled" in a matter of hours. It was no small building, about 50 stories if memory serves. I've stayed at the WTC Marriot in May 2001. The WTC complex was huge and covered acres of land, about 17 if memory serves. WTC 7 wasn't even that close to the two main towers. It was NOT physically damaged by their collapse. Do you think a demolition crew would have tried to put explosives in a building that had a few fires burning in it? How could the large amount of explosives needed for the task be brought into the building in the few hours between the time the decision was supposedly made to pull the building and its destruction? Not to mention wire all of the charges together, and run them through an electronic control panel, etc., etc. There is no way the plans could have been studied in time. I guess what I'm saying is that the controlled demolition of WTC 7 within a period of a few hours was a VIRTUAL IMPOSSIBILITY unless all of the prep work had been done in advance. Plans studied, explosives obtained, explosives set in place with wiring, electronic control panel obtained and programmed, etc. AHEAD OF TIME. To prepare for the demolition ahead of time implies that the 9/11 event was known about ahead of time, and implicates a complicit federal govt. in its execution. There is no way to pull such an event off without the cooperation or at least the acquiesence of a complicit federal govt. </p><p></p><p>Remember a "Pearl Harbor" event was needed according to the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) so that the American global military expedition could be launched to bring about "Pax Americana" - one of their main projects. Who are founding members of PNAC? Vice Pres. Dick Cheney, Sec. of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, White House advisors Perle and Feith, and the list goes on. PNAC was started in the late 1990's. You think they might have been planning for or looking for someone to give them their "Pearl Harbor" event since inception? Osama bin Laden is a bought and paid for CIA asset. al Qaeda is a bought and paid for CIA asset. Saddam Hussein is a bought and paid for CIA asset. Who controls the CIA? Think about it. It's not the White House.</p><p></p><p>WTC 7 wasn't damaged by the destruction of the the north and south towers. There were maybe a few fires going in WTC 7. Fires from what? No one seems to be able to come up with the answers for that. WTC 7 was the home of FEMA, the CIA, the FBI, and the Secret Service to name a few of the federal agencies housed there. Rudy Guilianni went there first on the morning of 9/11. He was told to leave WTC 7 because "there are bombs in the building" that morning. Sorry folks. I know it sounds "conspiracy theory." I know it's incredible to believe that the fed. govt. would be complicit in something like the 9/11 event. But the evidence just doesn't stack up in favor of the official govt. explanation.</p><p></p><p>What's really remarkable is that WTC's 4, 5, and 6 were all partially damaged by the collapse of the north and south towers. They could have been more easily destroyed in a controlled demolition and on a shorter time schedule. Permits would have been easily granted. Buildings were empty, and the area was already under the control of police and fire officials during the rescue and clean up operation. Guess when WTC 4, 5 and 6 were "pulled"? Mid-December of 2001. It took two months to "pull" partially destroyed and evacuated buildings, which is faster than normal for the process. But the few hours it took to "pull" WTC 7 in the middle of all the ruckus of the day - just ain't possible.</p><p></p><p>Here's another one to ponder. The north and south towers collapsed in a text book "controlled demolition" fashion. Watch the video of their collapse. There are sites all over the web that have them. The US Geological Survey picked up shock waves equivalent to a series of controlled explosives about 10 to 15 seconds BEFORE each of the towers began their controlled collapse. Sounds conspiracy theory? You ain't heard much yet.</p><p></p><p>Cary</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CaryP, post: 7008, member: 34"] [b]Philosophical descrepancies in JT story[/b] Lonewolf, Sounds like you and I have seen some of the same material. Big question about WTC 7 isn't there? Larry Silverstein, the owner of the entire WTC complex, is interviewed on a post 9/11 events video tape produced by PBS called "Rebuilding America". In this program Mr. Silverstein talks about the destruction of WTC 7. He says that the decision was made to "pull the building" on the afternoon of 9/11 because of damage to the building. The term "pull the building" is used by demolition experts to describe the controlled demolition of buildings. You've seen them on TV. An old building is scheduled for destruction. It takes months for the preparation and execution of such events. 1)The structure and plans of the building have to be obtained and studied by the demolition crew. 2)Permits have to obtained and demolition times have to be coordinated with law enforcement and fire officials. 3)Explosives have to be acquired. 4)Demolition charges and wiring must be placed strategically throughout the to-be-destroyed building. 5)All the wiring has to be run through a control board that will ensure that demolition charges are detonated in the proper sequence to bring the building down in a controlled manner to minimize the area of rubble post-demolition. I'm no demolitions expert but, IT TAKES MONTHS TO DO THIS. WTC 7 was "pulled" in a matter of hours. It was no small building, about 50 stories if memory serves. I've stayed at the WTC Marriot in May 2001. The WTC complex was huge and covered acres of land, about 17 if memory serves. WTC 7 wasn't even that close to the two main towers. It was NOT physically damaged by their collapse. Do you think a demolition crew would have tried to put explosives in a building that had a few fires burning in it? How could the large amount of explosives needed for the task be brought into the building in the few hours between the time the decision was supposedly made to pull the building and its destruction? Not to mention wire all of the charges together, and run them through an electronic control panel, etc., etc. There is no way the plans could have been studied in time. I guess what I'm saying is that the controlled demolition of WTC 7 within a period of a few hours was a VIRTUAL IMPOSSIBILITY unless all of the prep work had been done in advance. Plans studied, explosives obtained, explosives set in place with wiring, electronic control panel obtained and programmed, etc. AHEAD OF TIME. To prepare for the demolition ahead of time implies that the 9/11 event was known about ahead of time, and implicates a complicit federal govt. in its execution. There is no way to pull such an event off without the cooperation or at least the acquiesence of a complicit federal govt. Remember a "Pearl Harbor" event was needed according to the Project for the New American Century (PNAC) so that the American global military expedition could be launched to bring about "Pax Americana" - one of their main projects. Who are founding members of PNAC? Vice Pres. Dick Cheney, Sec. of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, White House advisors Perle and Feith, and the list goes on. PNAC was started in the late 1990's. You think they might have been planning for or looking for someone to give them their "Pearl Harbor" event since inception? Osama bin Laden is a bought and paid for CIA asset. al Qaeda is a bought and paid for CIA asset. Saddam Hussein is a bought and paid for CIA asset. Who controls the CIA? Think about it. It's not the White House. WTC 7 wasn't damaged by the destruction of the the north and south towers. There were maybe a few fires going in WTC 7. Fires from what? No one seems to be able to come up with the answers for that. WTC 7 was the home of FEMA, the CIA, the FBI, and the Secret Service to name a few of the federal agencies housed there. Rudy Guilianni went there first on the morning of 9/11. He was told to leave WTC 7 because "there are bombs in the building" that morning. Sorry folks. I know it sounds "conspiracy theory." I know it's incredible to believe that the fed. govt. would be complicit in something like the 9/11 event. But the evidence just doesn't stack up in favor of the official govt. explanation. What's really remarkable is that WTC's 4, 5, and 6 were all partially damaged by the collapse of the north and south towers. They could have been more easily destroyed in a controlled demolition and on a shorter time schedule. Permits would have been easily granted. Buildings were empty, and the area was already under the control of police and fire officials during the rescue and clean up operation. Guess when WTC 4, 5 and 6 were "pulled"? Mid-December of 2001. It took two months to "pull" partially destroyed and evacuated buildings, which is faster than normal for the process. But the few hours it took to "pull" WTC 7 in the middle of all the ruckus of the day - just ain't possible. Here's another one to ponder. The north and south towers collapsed in a text book "controlled demolition" fashion. Watch the video of their collapse. There are sites all over the web that have them. The US Geological Survey picked up shock waves equivalent to a series of controlled explosives about 10 to 15 seconds BEFORE each of the towers began their controlled collapse. Sounds conspiracy theory? You ain't heard much yet. Cary [/QUOTE]
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