Interview Real Time Traveler -I know Everything about time travel.

Mayhem

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When under pressure, after such exalted CLAIMS, a missing is apparent.

Suffice to say without some required evidence, seems its just go around.
 

Mayhem

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I never got my answer,

If man was once a supreme being, the spiral has gone to such depths of desperation need not describe here,
When does the consciousness of the planetary humans rise again?

A simple question.

Do the scriptures found at Nag Hammadi speak the real truth?
 

JimmyD

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He still hasn't passed my time traveler test. A sure sign of another hoaxer.
He answered you. He said, "...and I whispered in your ear."

No. He lied. And he never posted the answer to the question that I haven't asked him yet. A real time traveler would have no problem with this test.

Your test, while one means of discerning, only works to prove it to you personally from your personal perspective. And it is reliant on specific conditions, be it that a time traveler must personally interact with you in the future in some way. It also leaves room for suspicion of foul play to outsiders of the exchange.

Again, there must be a verifiable data set as well as a verifiable time line and verified medium. All pieces must be universally verifiable and demonstrate something moving backward in time. At the very least, it must demonstrate foreknowledge of something and/or information moving backwards through logic.
 

Einstein

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He answered you. He said, "...and I whispered in your ear."

No. He lied. And he never posted the answer to the question that I haven't asked him yet. A real time traveler would have no problem with this test.

Your test, while one means of discerning, only works to prove it to you personally from your personal perspective. And it is reliant on specific conditions, be it that a time traveler must personally interact with you in the future in some way. It also leaves room for suspicion of foul play to outsiders of the exchange.

Again, there must be a verifiable data set as well as a verifiable time line and verified medium. All pieces must be universally verifiable and demonstrate something moving backward in time. At the very least, it must demonstrate foreknowledge of something and/or information moving backwards through logic.

This test does seem to shut down hoaxers very rapidly. I would implore everyone in this thread to ask our self proclaimed time traveler to give him the same test I did.
 

JimmyD

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No. He lied. And he never posted the answer to the question that I haven't asked him yet. A real time traveler would have no problem with this test.

Your test, while one means of discerning, only works to prove it to you personally from your personal perspective. And it is reliant on specific conditions, be it that a time traveler must personally interact with you in the future in some way. It also leaves room for suspicion of foul play to outsiders of the exchange.

Again, there must be a verifiable data set as well as a verifiable time line and verified medium. All pieces must be universally verifiable and demonstrate something moving backward in time. At the very least, it must demonstrate foreknowledge of something and/or information moving backwards through logic.

This test does seem to shut down hoaxers very rapidly. I would implore everyone in this thread to ask our self proclaimed time traveler to give him the same test I did.

I get your intent, and it does seem to chase off the hoaxers. But if ever there was a real one, your test may prove to be counterproductive for the demand that a time traveler find you in the future just to prove it to you, ...assuming that is even possible in consideration of whatever parameters they may be dealing with.

There are other ways of proving it, however. There are many means and mediums, so long as they fit a set of criteria to qualify. And even then, it is difficult to actually call it proof without a lengthy investigation to confirm and rule out other possibilities.(deductive reasoning) That must also be combined with induction and all kinds of supportive evidence, as to eventually infer that it is actually evidence/proof.

That excerpt from the posts I put on the other thread is a description of how to locate and identify a piece of evidence, which is that line I posted. The posts itself is simply one part of supporting evidence for the authenticity/significance of that line.

Most look at it and simply see a picture of a line. It doesn't mean anything. If I were to show it to you properly and explain everything in detail as to substantiate it, you would look at it as possibly being actual evidence. You would be suspect and understanding it as an amazing coincidence. Then I show you a couple more just like it. You analyze them and see it for what it is; evidence of time travel. But your rational mind is not yet sold, you are not yet convinced. You start pondering questions like How many patterned coincidences before it can no longer reasonably be considered coincidence, and what are the odds of that many things lining up that perfectly? While you are contemplating that, I show you a few more just like the others, then more and more of them. At some point it will be undeniable and that is when a larger context starts to become apparent. That is also when things get complicated.

Most people are not ready for that. All hell could break lose should the greater truth be realized.
 

Einstein

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Your test, while one means of discerning, only works to prove it to you personally from your personal perspective. And it is reliant on specific conditions, be it that a time traveler must personally interact with you in the future in some way. It also leaves room for suspicion of foul play to outsiders of the exchange.

Again, there must be a verifiable data set as well as a verifiable time line and verified medium. All pieces must be universally verifiable and demonstrate something moving backward in time. At the very least, it must demonstrate foreknowledge of something and/or information moving backwards through logic.

This test does seem to shut down hoaxers very rapidly. I would implore everyone in this thread to ask our self proclaimed time traveler to give him the same test I did.

I get your intent, and it does seem to chase off the hoaxers. But if ever there was a real one, your test may prove to be counterproductive for the demand that a time traveler find you in the future just to prove it to you, ...assuming that is even possible in consideration of whatever parameters they may be dealing with.

There are other ways of proving it, however. There are many means and mediums, so long as they fit a set of criteria to qualify. And even then, it is difficult to actually call it proof without a lengthy investigation to confirm and rule out other possibilities.(deductive reasoning) That must also be combined with induction and all kinds of supportive evidence, as to eventually infer that it is actually evidence/proof.

That excerpt from the posts I put on the other thread is a description of how to locate and identify a piece of evidence, which is that line I posted. The posts itself is simply one part of supporting evidence for the authenticity/significance of that line.

Most look at it and simply see a picture of a line. It doesn't mean anything. If I were to show it to you properly and explain everything in detail as to substantiate it, you would look at it as possibly being actual evidence. You would be suspect and understanding it as an amazing coincidence. Then I show you a couple more just like it. You analyze them and see it for what it is; evidence of time travel. But your rational mind is not yet sold, you are not yet convinced. You start pondering questions like How many patterned coincidences before it can no longer reasonably be considered coincidence, and what are the odds of that many things lining up that perfectly? While you are contemplating that, I show you a few more just like the others, then more and more of them. At some point it will be undeniable and that is when a larger context starts to become apparent. That is also when things get complicated.

Most people are not ready for that. All hell could break lose should the greater truth be realized.

A fact is a fact. I accept that as as a definition of sanity. But apparently you are trying to skirt that definition with nonsense. Are you schizophrenic?
 

JimmyD

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This test does seem to shut down hoaxers very rapidly. I would implore everyone in this thread to ask our self proclaimed time traveler to give him the same test I did.

I get your intent, and it does seem to chase off the hoaxers. But if ever there was a real one, your test may prove to be counterproductive for the demand that a time traveler find you in the future just to prove it to you, ...assuming that is even possible in consideration of whatever parameters they may be dealing with.

There are other ways of proving it, however. There are many means and mediums, so long as they fit a set of criteria to qualify. And even then, it is difficult to actually call it proof without a lengthy investigation to confirm and rule out other possibilities.(deductive reasoning) That must also be combined with induction and all kinds of supportive evidence, as to eventually infer that it is actually evidence/proof.

That excerpt from the posts I put on the other thread is a description of how to locate and identify a piece of evidence, which is that line I posted. The posts itself is simply one part of supporting evidence for the authenticity/significance of that line.

Most look at it and simply see a picture of a line. It doesn't mean anything. If I were to show it to you properly and explain everything in detail as to substantiate it, you would look at it as possibly being actual evidence. You would be suspect and understanding it as an amazing coincidence. Then I show you a couple more just like it. You analyze them and see it for what it is; evidence of time travel. But your rational mind is not yet sold, you are not yet convinced. You start pondering questions like How many patterned coincidences before it can no longer reasonably be considered coincidence, and what are the odds of that many things lining up that perfectly? While you are contemplating that, I show you a few more just like the others, then more and more of them. At some point it will be undeniable and that is when a larger context starts to become apparent. That is also when things get complicated.

Most people are not ready for that. All hell could break lose should the greater truth be realized.

A fact is a fact. I accept that as as a definition of sanity. But apparently you are trying to skirt that definition with nonsense. Are you schizophrenic?

I don't understand what you mean, and I am not sure I care. You are apparently not the person to discuss time travel with.
 

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