# Stealing money in the future and returning it in the past.

Discussion in 'Time Travel Discussion' started by Blue Wolf, Aug 1, 2017.

1. ### Blue Wolf#1 Wolf in InvestigationPremium

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Let's imagine there is a scenario where someone has only \$100. You steal all the money they have. You take the \$100 from that person and return it to them in the past. You tell them that the \$200 is to make up for what someone is about to steal. Now, you go forward in time and steal the \$200. You return back and give them \$200 and they have \$400 stolen. The process repeats.

How would this make sense?

I do not believe in paradoxes.

Would it be a closed time-like curve?

Are you jumping between alternate universes?

My personal belief is that causality wouldn't be violated.
The cause of the loop would be your urge to travel back.
The effect would be all of the events within the loop.

Seeing as how time is measured by cause and effect,
you would be travelling forward still as you go back. That is very strange. That would mean time travel exists in a way. Yet, it doesn't.

More like time displacement.

If actual time travel is impossible, you'd probably have to go to a different world-line.

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The whole Universe operates from a continuous cause and effect, although i think the term was used to confine single specific instances..
Time how we use it, is measured into seconds minutes hours days weeks months etc etc, and we created that ourselves, but has nothing to do with Time per se.....Thats my thinking anyways

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3. ### EinsteinTemporal Engineer

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Blue Wolf

No one has an answer yet to your scenario. But when I get my time machine up and running, I plan to get rich using a similar plan.

My plan is to buy an ounce of gold. Then place the gold on a table in a locked room. Then leave it there for a week. At which time I will take the ounce of gold and put it in a large basket in my time machine. Then go back in time one minute and take the gold off the table again. I repeat this process untill all the minutes in a week are used up. Around 10,000 ounces of gold. Then go back in time around 6 months and sell it all at the going rate. I estimate around 12 million dollars.

After all the gold was mine to begin with. So no crime was committed.

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You forgot one thing my friend..when you go back in time you automatically enter an alternate dimension where changes can happen..
However you overlooked something...after you have deposited the gold in the alternative dimension, you can never go back to the same alternative dimension again, instead you get taken to alternative dimension number 2 in which your gold has never been deposited into..
Therefore you have lost all the money that you paid for the gold ...

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5. ### Blue Wolf#1 Wolf in InvestigationPremium

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Wouldn't it be a world-line or a universe, not a dimension?

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Alternative Universe and Alternative Dimension are the same thing, it depends on how other people want to express the term..

7. ### EinsteinTemporal Engineer

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I don't know if my method would actually work or not. It's just an idea based on current beliefs.

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8. ### MetaMatrixThe Man of Esoteric Knowledge

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Do not do it, time cops may arrest you. Just Joking!

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Anyone ever encountered these Time Cops?

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