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The Mystery of Perfection Unveiled
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<blockquote data-quote="NaturalPhilosopher" data-source="post: 197450" data-attributes="member: 9562"><p>nicely said.</p><p>however it sounds like a spiritual hallmark greeting card.</p><p>those ideas about painful progression being good and proper for growth usually sounds only good when thought about in academic terms. Not exactly when it happens to yourself.</p><p></p><p>anyways, it does seem like god makes things happen simultaneously for multiple purposes.</p><p>still though the idea that an infinite god has no choice other than to cause pain for growth implies a very cruel god. He can create everything but can't create a system that causes growth without pain, idk man.</p><p></p><p>My interpretation about painful growth is there's something god doesn't understand. He asked us before incarnation to help him get rid of it but the only way to know how to experience it. Like a giant intelligence gathering operation. All other arguments suggest god is cruel.</p><p></p><p>Can't have it both ways. All arguments boil down to two possibilities. 1)infinite and cruel god 2)limited and nice god. What horrifies you more?</p><p></p><p>This mainly is what turns off most people from religion and new age ideas. They all promote a cruel god relationship from their spiritual stockholm syndrome.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NaturalPhilosopher, post: 197450, member: 9562"] nicely said. however it sounds like a spiritual hallmark greeting card. those ideas about painful progression being good and proper for growth usually sounds only good when thought about in academic terms. Not exactly when it happens to yourself. anyways, it does seem like god makes things happen simultaneously for multiple purposes. still though the idea that an infinite god has no choice other than to cause pain for growth implies a very cruel god. He can create everything but can't create a system that causes growth without pain, idk man. My interpretation about painful growth is there's something god doesn't understand. He asked us before incarnation to help him get rid of it but the only way to know how to experience it. Like a giant intelligence gathering operation. All other arguments suggest god is cruel. Can't have it both ways. All arguments boil down to two possibilities. 1)infinite and cruel god 2)limited and nice god. What horrifies you more? This mainly is what turns off most people from religion and new age ideas. They all promote a cruel god relationship from their spiritual stockholm syndrome. [/QUOTE]
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