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The Pope's neverending death
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<blockquote data-quote="StarLord" data-source="post: 24465" data-attributes="member: 44"><p><strong>Re: The Pope's neverending death</strong></p><p></p><p>Simplistic and cynical? Balderdash, Sir. I was a military brat and was gifted with the experience of living in many godforsaken military bases as I grew up, some a year, some a year and a half and once in the Orient for over five years. It has been my <em>limited</em> experience that the child is a direct reflection of his parents attention and loving efforts. I din't just pull that opinion out of a hat.</p><p> </p><p>Yes there are going to be extremes from the norm and yes it could simply be rebellion on the kids part. However, show me a child that has no self respect and couldn't give a damn or two and the chances of his parents failing or not giving a damn themselves is quite great. Yes I do realize that kids are just on 'loan' until they decide to leave the nest and we only have them for a short time. However, if a good firm foundation is instilled in that kid early enough and they are taught to think on their feet and they know that they can come to you anytime for a free open discussion, both before the fact and after the fact, what part of society do you think will stick to them? Only the part they refuse to talk about because they are not ready to make a decision about it.</p><p> </p><p>One of the very first jobs a child has is to figure out their limits. It is their primary task in life besides asking "are we there yet?" to see just how far they can push the adult. Once set, those limits are the virtual grounds for experience. </p><p> </p><p>I grew up with a strict, loving father that made very sure that I knew without a shadow of a doubt, that the punishment I was about to receive was not only just but because of the fact that my father loved me and that I had exceeded the bounds of acceptable behavior, with the requisite 'this is going to hurt you more than it hurts me' spiel. Hard to argue with that kind of honesty.</p><p> </p><p>So, you have to ask yourself, was the way we were brought up 40 or 50 years ago better than the way kids were brought up 20 or 30 years ago? I have noticed that this may be cyclic, the kids that had stern parents refused to punish their kids and those kids decided to be more stern with their children and so forth?</p><p> </p><p>Sorry, but I do have to say that just like pudding, if it's prepared well, it takes care of itself with minimal chance of spoiling. The foundation that you give your children allow them to think for themself imho.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StarLord, post: 24465, member: 44"] [b]Re: The Pope's neverending death[/b] Simplistic and cynical? Balderdash, Sir. I was a military brat and was gifted with the experience of living in many godforsaken military bases as I grew up, some a year, some a year and a half and once in the Orient for over five years. It has been my [i]limited[/i] experience that the child is a direct reflection of his parents attention and loving efforts. I din't just pull that opinion out of a hat. Yes there are going to be extremes from the norm and yes it could simply be rebellion on the kids part. However, show me a child that has no self respect and couldn't give a damn or two and the chances of his parents failing or not giving a damn themselves is quite great. Yes I do realize that kids are just on 'loan' until they decide to leave the nest and we only have them for a short time. However, if a good firm foundation is instilled in that kid early enough and they are taught to think on their feet and they know that they can come to you anytime for a free open discussion, both before the fact and after the fact, what part of society do you think will stick to them? Only the part they refuse to talk about because they are not ready to make a decision about it. One of the very first jobs a child has is to figure out their limits. It is their primary task in life besides asking "are we there yet?" to see just how far they can push the adult. Once set, those limits are the virtual grounds for experience. I grew up with a strict, loving father that made very sure that I knew without a shadow of a doubt, that the punishment I was about to receive was not only just but because of the fact that my father loved me and that I had exceeded the bounds of acceptable behavior, with the requisite 'this is going to hurt you more than it hurts me' spiel. Hard to argue with that kind of honesty. So, you have to ask yourself, was the way we were brought up 40 or 50 years ago better than the way kids were brought up 20 or 30 years ago? I have noticed that this may be cyclic, the kids that had stern parents refused to punish their kids and those kids decided to be more stern with their children and so forth? Sorry, but I do have to say that just like pudding, if it's prepared well, it takes care of itself with minimal chance of spoiling. The foundation that you give your children allow them to think for themself imho. [/QUOTE]
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