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<blockquote data-quote="Einstein" data-source="post: 157470" data-attributes="member: 288"><p>Opmmur </p><p></p><p>Apparently I was educated with knowledge that is different from both you and TimeFlipper. I've commented quite frequently on the phony education I was given. Back when I was in school I took an electronics course in high school. It was all tubes back then. But I do recall my instructor telling us all that an antenna just radiates electric waves. I've never had reason to doubt that until last week. Of course I've continued my electronics education since high school. I'm very proficient in reading an electronics schematic. I've built lots of devices just from a schematic alone. I've also designed and built my own gadgets too. I've learned quite a few facts about circuits too. One fact that I've learned is that a capacitor in a circuit will pass a voltage through it. But it will block a current. If the capacitor does pass a current, then you've got a shorted defective capacitor. The rule for current, both AC and DC, is in order to have a current in a circuit, there has to be a source of current and a return path for the current. Both source and return have to be present. Take away either one or the other and no current will be present. I've never come across a circuit that operated differently from these basic facts. </p><p></p><p>Now I will admit that I have no experience at all in working with transmitter circuits. But I have read lots of schematics on them. All the schematics I've seen so far, show the antenna is always connected to a capacitor. And the antenna as shown in the schematics has no source or return path depicted for current. So based on what I see in the schematics, the antenna is only connected to a voltage source, with no current source or return path depicted. That would be in agreement with what I was taught that an antenna only radiates a voltage wave. However since TimeFlipper introduced me to this alternate information this last week, I've been busy researching to see if there was any support for current existing in a dipole antenna. Apparently the educational community is now teaching it this way. Why the change? I haven't come across a reason for the change yet. You guys must know me by now when I come across conflicting sources of information. I usually call BullShit. This puts into question the validity of the info presented. Just like the Physics book. The educational community is trying to hide something. I've mentioned in the past that info on Michael Faraday is getting harder and harder to find on the internet. The educational community is attempting to rewrite history by replacing Faraday with some guy named Flemming. And of course the knowledge being presented by Flemming is BullShit. So just be aware that the knowledge about electromagnetic induction as currently taught in the schools is not true. </p><p></p><p>So how do we find out the truth? You know me. I'm a hands on guy. I'll go do some experiments with antennas just to find out if there is any current present during transmission. I'll just construct a simple amp probe from a circular ferrite inductor with a few turns of wire wound through the inductor, to serve as a magnetic field detection tool. If there is a magnetic field present I will detect it. I'm pretty sure I can find a walkie talkie around here somewhere to use for test purposes. </p><p></p><p>I do think your idea of a loop antenna would satisfy the current rules of conduction. Since the loop does provide a continuous unbroken path for the AC current to flow. So a loop antenna connected to a properly tuned voltage induction circuit should produce an EM wave output. </p><p></p><p>However I have never come across any circuit that radiates just a magnetic field without a voltage field also present. But I'll admit it wouldn't be hard to make one for experimental purposes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Einstein, post: 157470, member: 288"] Opmmur Apparently I was educated with knowledge that is different from both you and TimeFlipper. I've commented quite frequently on the phony education I was given. Back when I was in school I took an electronics course in high school. It was all tubes back then. But I do recall my instructor telling us all that an antenna just radiates electric waves. I've never had reason to doubt that until last week. Of course I've continued my electronics education since high school. I'm very proficient in reading an electronics schematic. I've built lots of devices just from a schematic alone. I've also designed and built my own gadgets too. I've learned quite a few facts about circuits too. One fact that I've learned is that a capacitor in a circuit will pass a voltage through it. But it will block a current. If the capacitor does pass a current, then you've got a shorted defective capacitor. The rule for current, both AC and DC, is in order to have a current in a circuit, there has to be a source of current and a return path for the current. Both source and return have to be present. Take away either one or the other and no current will be present. I've never come across a circuit that operated differently from these basic facts. Now I will admit that I have no experience at all in working with transmitter circuits. But I have read lots of schematics on them. All the schematics I've seen so far, show the antenna is always connected to a capacitor. And the antenna as shown in the schematics has no source or return path depicted for current. So based on what I see in the schematics, the antenna is only connected to a voltage source, with no current source or return path depicted. That would be in agreement with what I was taught that an antenna only radiates a voltage wave. However since TimeFlipper introduced me to this alternate information this last week, I've been busy researching to see if there was any support for current existing in a dipole antenna. Apparently the educational community is now teaching it this way. Why the change? I haven't come across a reason for the change yet. You guys must know me by now when I come across conflicting sources of information. I usually call BullShit. This puts into question the validity of the info presented. Just like the Physics book. The educational community is trying to hide something. I've mentioned in the past that info on Michael Faraday is getting harder and harder to find on the internet. The educational community is attempting to rewrite history by replacing Faraday with some guy named Flemming. And of course the knowledge being presented by Flemming is BullShit. So just be aware that the knowledge about electromagnetic induction as currently taught in the schools is not true. So how do we find out the truth? You know me. I'm a hands on guy. I'll go do some experiments with antennas just to find out if there is any current present during transmission. I'll just construct a simple amp probe from a circular ferrite inductor with a few turns of wire wound through the inductor, to serve as a magnetic field detection tool. If there is a magnetic field present I will detect it. I'm pretty sure I can find a walkie talkie around here somewhere to use for test purposes. I do think your idea of a loop antenna would satisfy the current rules of conduction. Since the loop does provide a continuous unbroken path for the AC current to flow. So a loop antenna connected to a properly tuned voltage induction circuit should produce an EM wave output. However I have never come across any circuit that radiates just a magnetic field without a voltage field also present. But I'll admit it wouldn't be hard to make one for experimental purposes. [/QUOTE]
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