The U.S. Civil War II

Discussion in 'Time Travel Discussion' started by Ren, Jul 1, 2012.

  1. Ren Senior Member

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    We're currently witnessing President Obama's overhaul of Universal National Health Care.

    Basically, this is a legal order demanding that all businesses force workers to set aside part of their wages for medical health insurance in case they get hurt.

    Some workers don't want to do this rightfully complaining that they don't earn enough to set aside money for health insurance and that they would rather take a chance and not have health insurance.

    Unfortunately, private and public hospitals have to pay the cost of treating uninsured patients. 25% of all hospital expenses are due to covering uninsured treatment or free public treatment. That cost is passed to tax payers anyway and is taken out of working wages anyway.

    Obama is just saying that everyone needs to pay into the system so that everyone will pay less for health insurance.

    The U.S. Army family already has been enjoying Universal National Health Care for a very long time.

    This also means that the government will have a stronger hand in what insurance companies can charge for treatment.

    Businesses of all sizes in the U.S. don't want this because they feel they'll have to raise wages so the workers can pay health insurance. Existing business health insurance in the form of HMO's and the like cost a lot less but also cover employees inadequately.

    So here is really what causes the next Civil War. It is quite simple, understandable and you can easily predict this is going to happen.

    Big businesses just don't want to pay you what you are worth. They want to keep unemployment high so that you'll come to work for them for surviving wages because you're just happy to have a job. The executives that pay you really don't see you or your family. They only see you as a liability and an expense to be cost cut. They don't care about you at all. They want you to constantly work doing your job and the 2 jobs of your restructured former co-workers. You have 2 10 minute breaks and a 30 minute lunch. If you're sick then your sick day counts as a vacation day.

    Is it any wonder why people start living off the grid without a job polishing their rifles looking at the skyline with bitterness and murder in their hearts? Rich people of the U.S., you're in danger.

    The Russian Revolution. The French Revolution. Time and time again history has shown us what happens to a group of people that get too greedy and horde all the wealth.

    I swear to you on all that is good and holy that the people of the U.S. are about to revolt in great numbers. They will start waving red stars. Yes. When you see red stars over the United States that is when the fireworks will start.
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  2. Einstein Active Member

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    You did leave out a couple of important items that I came across. One is the fact that the government will take one percent of your wages as an additional tax if you don't participate in the Obama scam. The second fact is that everyone will be required to be chipped with an RFID device. I'm an extremely healthy person. I live a very healthy lifestyle. As a result of that lifestyle, I don't require the services of health care professionals. I never will either. But to be punished for being healthy with more taxes? Well, I guess I can say that flipped a switch in me. I'm considering starting a new initiative myself. I call it the Duck Puck reform act.
  3. Leslie Junior Member

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    Do please explain the Duck Puck?
  4. Einstein Active Member

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    I did a search on that term and was surprised to see that it is censored. But a Duck Puck is something duck hunters use for target practice. I suspect there will be lots of people that will mistakenly think they are just shooting at Duck Pucks. Just remember we outnumber the Duck Pucks by a million to one. One more thing, I think the censoring of Duck Puck can only mean one thing. The Duck Pucks have time travel technology and went back in time to remove the term from public knowledge. Probably because the term is about to become very popular.
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  5. kurisu Active Member

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    You keep saying it "will" happen however some people seem to not understand the longer you wait the more difficult it will become the government has already started to suppress us in indirect ways whether it's by making us spend more money or w.e If you compare the the amount of casualties or a civil war now to 20 years from now I promise it will be much lower. At the moment we may have to fight up hill in order to change it however we don't have to fight up a mountain not yet at least...

    It's useless waiting if you want something to change take it into your own hands and, change it. If you have what it takes people will join you.
  6. Ren Senior Member

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    No. It is absolutely ridiculous that there are 6,000,000 comments on the Internet about the U.S. government implanting people with RFID chips. A lot of them are Christian comments referring to it as receiving the mark of the beast. Thinking like this IS partly to blame for the next war.
  7. Einstein Active Member

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    Well, if all the Duck Puck institutions were to mysteriously burn to the ground, the Duck Pucks might get the message. Of course anyone attempting to put an RFID chip in me wont live to tell about it. But then time travel technology isn't exclusive to just the Duck Pucks. People in the movie industry come back alive all the time. So I suppose that could work in reverse as well. Maybe some Duck Pucks will never be born. If they discover they aren't the only ones with time travel technology, they might realize it's a war they can't win.
  8. Octavusprime Active Member

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    Soooo duck puck = the 1%? Youre speaking in riddles man.
  9. kurisu Active Member

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    They say he who controls time controls the world. They say he who wins controls history.
  10. kurisu Active Member

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    I hate to put it this way and, hope you don't take offense but, most people on here don't want to reveal information openly and, freely you have to be able to read between the lines and, try to put pieces together. If your new to this kind of stuff then, I would recommend you accumulate as much information , terms and, knowledge so you can tear information apart from the rest.

    As for your question I've never heard of DPI ( Dunk Punk Institution ) however from what he has read DPI is more like the 0.1% of the 1% if your saying the 1% is the elite then, the 0.1% is the elite of the elite.
  11. Einstein Active Member

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    You could call them the puppet masters as well. Just follow the money trail. It's not hard to figure out. But there are more players than just the puppet masters. Way too many anomalies in 911. I'll just bet the puppet masters are just a bit worried about that. Things never seem to go according to plan. It's the hidden players that will be calling the shots this time around.
  12. titorite Senior Member

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    Is it really Not ok to call ren out here? I mean... shoot... maybe I do want premission to be onry.... IDK....

    Sometimes I just do not want to tolerate fraud fake liar troll attention whores.... Not that I am saying that about ren.... I feel for ren given our past conversations.... He reminds me of an ex of mine. She too was a compulsive liar. Clinically diagnosed.

    It is a .... 'difficult' .. on everyone.


    I have digressed. My apoligiess to ren.


    I think a second civil war is already on.. I mean obama is killing people US citizens... US children. 16 and 17 year olds..BOys and girls.... The fed declared war on herself. We are all the victims. This has to end as soon as possible and the socipathic need to be dealt with in the most effective and damage minumizing manner..... prevention is the best cure I guess... I know not.. BUt civil war is here... They declatred on us and I think HISTORY SHALL REMEMBER AS SUCH.


    With out a doubt... I'm calling it here first.
  13. Octavusprime Active Member

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    No offense but people who throw out random sentences without explanation should just keep to themselves. It perpetuates hoaxers and those seeking attention. If this kind of behavior is normal and tolerated it makes it easy for persons who know nothing to claim knowledge.

    If you wish to speak on forums than prepare to back up your arguments and theories. I don't think me asking for clarity on a subject should be a source of ridicule.
  14. bobby harris Junior Member

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    well well well i already know that this is anothe oppression on the south the north who are still the union but remember the south is still the confederate states yes we will have another war same like in 1861 it will repeat again. i am planning to call a secession to the union for NC and i am not joking it will happen as soon as the right time comes i will hit the tv stations and will speak out and call all those to arms and then change the american flags back to confederate it will happen not now but as soon as time gets close its time to close the door on those who dont even care about americans at all all they care about is the rich and wealthy and the thier own money
  15. PerfectlyStrange Junior Member

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    The Civil War will happen. I cannot say that it will be Obama that started it. But I can sure as hell say that he didn't exactly help his government puppetmasters cases. The only thing that can save the country from itself is Direct Action. If everyone sits around and talks about how they don't want something, and how they're against something else, and how equality for the working class, for minorities, and for women is important, but if the talk is where it ends, then we're doomed. The sooner we tear the system down, the sooner we can make something better. I don't need a government to raise a family, or work hard to live comfortably. Hell, the government is the ones who tell me how I should raise a family, and they're also the first ones who dip into paychecks to take taxes. We're better off without them. And people always bring up the argument, "If we don't have government, then we won't have cops to enforce our streets." We've gotten to the point as a country where the police no longer help move forward into turning the country into a better place. They limit the rights of people, oppress people who don't fit into their "Upstanding Citizen" stereotype, and ultimately can't help you when you call them, unless a violent act has occurred. In a whole, it should be the community who watches out for each other. You should be able to call on your neighbor, or friend, or family member, when something happens, and they can help you out. Community watch programs, and street teams for trash cleanup, and road construction could be implemented in communities instead of state funded slave labor. I'll stop where I'm at, because this will quickly turn into a novel.

    You get the point. We're screwed. We're angry. We're the only hope left.
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  16. titorite Senior Member

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    Preach on, they need to hear it... more then that they need to be about it.

    I started off in DA... these days I am still commited to my actions bu I am also attenting city council meetings and attempting to secure positions inside the system.....


    I am not trying just one method or the other but every which way I can to better the system... to fight the system... to make a new system.

    Often I feel alone. But in my time I have met a few others... brave fuckers not even being afraid to talk of the dirty things... Vandalism and harassment wont win the war but it damn sure beats just talking about problems.
  17. Ren Senior Member

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    The Civil War 2 will happen unless we all decide to keep it from happening. Right now there is too much resistance. But if we force a more fair wage distribution system, or at least ensure that everyone can live on survivable means such as garden farming, internet access, a mini-laptop and a smartphone -- we could very well avert this thing. The wealthy elite don't have to die. They just need to be subjected to previously instated fair laws.
  18. HDRKID Senior Member

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    This just in.
    Obama abandons Israel – USATODAY.com

    John Titor said:
    "Does the current relationship between Arabs and Jews have anything to do with the coming war?
    Real disruptions in world events begin with the destabilization of the West as a result of degrading US foreign policy and consistency. This becomes apparent around 2004 as civil unrest develops near the next presidential election. The Jewish population in Israel is not prepared for a true offensive war. They are prepared for the ultimate defense. Wavering western support for Israel is what gives Israel's neighbors the confidence to attack. The last resort for a defensive Israel and its offensive Arab neighbors is to use weapons of mass destruction. In the grand scheme of things, the war in the Middle East is a part of what's to come, not the cause."

    ALSO
    Imagine you are Jewish and you are able to travel back in time to Germany in 1935. All around you are the patterns of thinking and action that will lead to a great deal of harm, death and destruction in just a few years. You have the advantage of knowing what will come but no one will listen to you. In fact, they think you're insane and the situations you describe could never happen.

  19. Samstwitch Moderator

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    Yes, and the coming Nuclear World War III is tied in with the current events listed below...

    Prime Minister Ben Netanyahu's full speech given 9-27-12 at UN, addresses Iran's Nuke Capability

    Prelude to Armageddon: Ahmadinejad declares Israel will be 'eliminated' as leaders gather at UN

    Obama warns U.S. will ‘do what we must’ on Iran

    Iran threatens attacks on US bases in event of war

    Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu: Iran on brink of nuclear bomb in 6-7 months

    19 Signs That Israel And Iran Are On The Verge Of War

    Russia will enter into the War over it's Treaty with Iran and other (anti-Israeli) Middle Eastern Countries will join in.

    AP Interview: Ahmadinejad (Iran) pushes New World Order

    Anti-American fury sweeps Middle East over film

    Three Star General: Muslim Brotherhood Has Infiltrated Our Government

    According to John Titor, China will become involved in a war with the U.S.A. after it forcefully annexes Japan, Taiwan, and Korea...and China will try to invade the U.S. I believe the current events listed below are a prelude to this happening.

    Will this lead to John Titor's forecast that Japan was "forcefully annexed" before N Day?

    Taiwan, Japan fire water cannon in disputed island controversy

    United States is obliged to come to Japan's aid if attacked by China, top U.S. diplomat said.

    Bible Prophecy also foretells all of these things regarding a World War involving Israel, Iran, other Middle Eastern Countries, Russia, and China.
  20. Ren Senior Member

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    That's a question of interpretation.
    Will tensions between Israel and the rest of the Middle East be the cause of World War 3? How couldn't it be the cause?
    The Russian naval base in Syria is supposed to be the primary cause.
    Yet the U.S. and Russia become allies against a rising powerful Islam.
    Russia and China are to discover very valuable resources. Russia just discovered a mine of diamonds.
    China's new wealth is supposed to calm it down.
    Japan and Korea are to willfully join China along with other Asian countries to start a new federal nation.
    That is what is supposed to happen.
    But this down hill ski course is changing rapidly. We're no longer on the trail that I took in my world.

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