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Time travel a reality.... what do you think?
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<blockquote data-quote="Ayasano" data-source="post: 87292" data-attributes="member: 4804"><p>I think you missed my point a little. I'm not saying it's difficult technologically inventing time travel on your own. (Though there's probably a certain level of scientific knowledge and problem solving skills required, not to mention resources) I'm saying even if you could, it's likely people with a much more vested interest in keeping the technology regulated would easily have the means to do so.</p><p></p><p>In a single timeline, a single change results in a butterfly effect that can easily wipe out billions of lives a few thousand years down the line. And because you're dealing with time travel, in this scenario the idea of who came up with the idea "first" is a bit more muddled. You can't think of time as a linear progression of cause and effect in this case, more as a tangled mess of looping lines that all afect each other. And from the universe's point of view, these lines are already fixed forever in place. What you see as a "change" always happened, you're just observing it from a different point of view, gaining new knowledge of the situation. (If you go back in time to kill your own grandfather, the person you "killed" turns out to be an actor/clone/android/someone else/etc. Or your time machine is disabled before you ever leave. It's in the future's best interest for things to stay the way they are)</p><p></p><p>If multiple timelines exist, then it's a little more likely to see invidivuals because time travel couldn't be used to make a change in your own timeline, except perhaps for reconnaissance, if it's possible to return to the original timeline. And even then, such an intervention in the present might just cause a seperate universe without said intervention to spawn.</p><p></p><p>Given the current lack of credible time travellers, I'm leaning towards the former explanation.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As an aside, my favourite part about the single timeline theory is that it also provides a possible answer to Fermi's Paradox. Imagine a bubble of spacetime extending in all directions, for say 1,000 years and a 1,000 lightyears. Imagine everything beyond that is teeming with a civilization capable of time travel. That civilization is our future, extending far into our past, keeping itself dark to us because it knows we never knew about it. Cause and effect, going round and round in a circle. It's almost poetic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ayasano, post: 87292, member: 4804"] I think you missed my point a little. I'm not saying it's difficult technologically inventing time travel on your own. (Though there's probably a certain level of scientific knowledge and problem solving skills required, not to mention resources) I'm saying even if you could, it's likely people with a much more vested interest in keeping the technology regulated would easily have the means to do so. In a single timeline, a single change results in a butterfly effect that can easily wipe out billions of lives a few thousand years down the line. And because you're dealing with time travel, in this scenario the idea of who came up with the idea "first" is a bit more muddled. You can't think of time as a linear progression of cause and effect in this case, more as a tangled mess of looping lines that all afect each other. And from the universe's point of view, these lines are already fixed forever in place. What you see as a "change" always happened, you're just observing it from a different point of view, gaining new knowledge of the situation. (If you go back in time to kill your own grandfather, the person you "killed" turns out to be an actor/clone/android/someone else/etc. Or your time machine is disabled before you ever leave. It's in the future's best interest for things to stay the way they are) If multiple timelines exist, then it's a little more likely to see invidivuals because time travel couldn't be used to make a change in your own timeline, except perhaps for reconnaissance, if it's possible to return to the original timeline. And even then, such an intervention in the present might just cause a seperate universe without said intervention to spawn. Given the current lack of credible time travellers, I'm leaning towards the former explanation. As an aside, my favourite part about the single timeline theory is that it also provides a possible answer to Fermi's Paradox. Imagine a bubble of spacetime extending in all directions, for say 1,000 years and a 1,000 lightyears. Imagine everything beyond that is teeming with a civilization capable of time travel. That civilization is our future, extending far into our past, keeping itself dark to us because it knows we never knew about it. Cause and effect, going round and round in a circle. It's almost poetic. [/QUOTE]
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