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<blockquote data-quote="fanavans" data-source="post: 28907" data-attributes="member: 605"><p><strong>Re: Time Travel is impossible</strong></p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Harte\")</div></p><p> </p><p>I didn't mean to maintain that W occupies the same space for all T<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite60" alt="(n)" title="Thumbs down (n)" loading="lazy" data-shortname="(n)" />. This was a mistake in notation.</p><p> </p><p>Consider this - if you looked at a graph with two axis (T,X). This represents the universe in all space and time. If you looked at the graph, and time travel had occured, you would see a non-continous line W. The line would run up to (0,1) (Where the number for X is arbitary) It would also run from (-100,2) to (-50,3) (Again, X is arbitary.) Now, if at T=0 W tried to travel back to (100,2) he would run into the line that is already on the graph.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I would argue that logic does apply, and that it fails is proof that it is impossible. Logical impossibilities are often used as proof. <em>Reductio ad absurdom</em> or somthing like that...</p><p> </p><p>That the universe is not being made over is again an important point - the alternative is that the universe already exists where W is trying to get to. Because he already exists there, he cannot go there. </p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Do you think that we cannot logically exclude it? Perhaps even in another way? I know that logic is not the be all, but I wonder if effort has ever been put into this question? I also know that science says it is possible or at least hints at the possibility - but - but - I think that it is impossible to exclude it on the basis above.</p><p> </p><p>Thanks for the great feedback!</p><p> </p><p>Fanavans</p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"MadIce\")</div></p><p> </p><p>Has he left T(-1)? Does T(-1) exist? If it does then W must be there. It is doesn't how can W go there? If W creates it by going there then it violates the pre requisite that W is going into his own history.</p><p> </p><p>Fanavans</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fanavans, post: 28907, member: 605"] [b]Re: Time Travel is impossible[/b] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"Harte\")</div> I didn't mean to maintain that W occupies the same space for all T(n). This was a mistake in notation. Consider this - if you looked at a graph with two axis (T,X). This represents the universe in all space and time. If you looked at the graph, and time travel had occured, you would see a non-continous line W. The line would run up to (0,1) (Where the number for X is arbitary) It would also run from (-100,2) to (-50,3) (Again, X is arbitary.) Now, if at T=0 W tried to travel back to (100,2) he would run into the line that is already on the graph. I would argue that logic does apply, and that it fails is proof that it is impossible. Logical impossibilities are often used as proof. [i]Reductio ad absurdom[/i] or somthing like that... That the universe is not being made over is again an important point - the alternative is that the universe already exists where W is trying to get to. Because he already exists there, he cannot go there. Do you think that we cannot logically exclude it? Perhaps even in another way? I know that logic is not the be all, but I wonder if effort has ever been put into this question? I also know that science says it is possible or at least hints at the possibility - but - but - I think that it is impossible to exclude it on the basis above. Thanks for the great feedback! Fanavans <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"MadIce\")</div> Has he left T(-1)? Does T(-1) exist? If it does then W must be there. It is doesn't how can W go there? If W creates it by going there then it violates the pre requisite that W is going into his own history. Fanavans [/QUOTE]
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