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<blockquote data-quote="Harte" data-source="post: 27025" data-attributes="member: 443"><p><strong>Re: Treeees!!!</strong></p><p></p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"BubbuClinton\")</div> </p><p> </p><p>Bubbu,</p><p>Sorry, I know you thanked me in advance but I think my post here might surprise you. I am glad to see someone look at both sides of this issue, and to tell the truth, even eveolutionary biologists are troubled by problems with the theory. In fact, Dawinian evolution has basically been discounted by them and new, more reasonable methodologies to drive evolution are being sought.</p><p> </p><p>That being said, it is unreasonable for you to demand someone point out a creature that is turning into another creature, given the time frame involved. If you want good examples of transition of species, you should look at the whales. There is a lot of good evidence out there regarding the evolution of whales from a land species to a marine one.</p><p> </p><p>Also, there is a lot of good evidence out there about how horses evolved.</p><p> </p><p><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"BubbuClinton\")</div></p><p> </p><p>I don't believe that evolution and God are mutually exclusive. I cannot bring myself to blindly believe that, for example, two of every animal on Earth, even those unknown to the eastern hemisphere, were brought on to an ark by a man named Noah. I am absolutely positive that the Earth never stood still for a time, not even to allow the defeat of the Lord's enemies. And in my opinion it is ridiculous to believe that the Earth was created with fossils in place just to fool us. I mean, what is the purpose in that?</p><p> </p><p>My point is, just because there's a bible story about it doesn't make it true. The bible is a collection of writings by various different people at various different times. The old testament is taken from the Torah, but Torah differs from the old testament. Why would this be? There's not a single story or event in the Bible that was chronicled at the time it occurred. Everything that happens in the Bible had occured years before it was written about, sometimes even centuries before (and in some cases thousands of years.)</p><p>Just because the bible story differs from the scientist's theory is not a logical reason to say that the theory excludes God. To my mind, being that we are of God, our theories must either bring us toward God, or be disproven.</p><p> </p><p>I don't see why God can't be using evolution as a machine of creation. Our ignorant ancestors didn't know some things that we take today as a given, like the size of the Earth, or the fact that the Earth revolves around the sun. Of course they couldn't adequately explain something like the creation of the universe, the Earth, Man, etc. Why should we limit ourselves to their world view? I think since God created the universe, he created conditions that made it inevitable that Man (and other intelligent life elsewhere) would appear.</p><p> </p><p>Harte</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harte, post: 27025, member: 443"] [b]Re: Treeees!!![/b] <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"BubbuClinton\")</div> Bubbu, Sorry, I know you thanked me in advance but I think my post here might surprise you. I am glad to see someone look at both sides of this issue, and to tell the truth, even eveolutionary biologists are troubled by problems with the theory. In fact, Dawinian evolution has basically been discounted by them and new, more reasonable methodologies to drive evolution are being sought. That being said, it is unreasonable for you to demand someone point out a creature that is turning into another creature, given the time frame involved. If you want good examples of transition of species, you should look at the whales. There is a lot of good evidence out there regarding the evolution of whales from a land species to a marine one. Also, there is a lot of good evidence out there about how horses evolved. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(\"BubbuClinton\")</div> I don't believe that evolution and God are mutually exclusive. I cannot bring myself to blindly believe that, for example, two of every animal on Earth, even those unknown to the eastern hemisphere, were brought on to an ark by a man named Noah. I am absolutely positive that the Earth never stood still for a time, not even to allow the defeat of the Lord's enemies. And in my opinion it is ridiculous to believe that the Earth was created with fossils in place just to fool us. I mean, what is the purpose in that? My point is, just because there's a bible story about it doesn't make it true. The bible is a collection of writings by various different people at various different times. The old testament is taken from the Torah, but Torah differs from the old testament. Why would this be? There's not a single story or event in the Bible that was chronicled at the time it occurred. Everything that happens in the Bible had occured years before it was written about, sometimes even centuries before (and in some cases thousands of years.) Just because the bible story differs from the scientist's theory is not a logical reason to say that the theory excludes God. To my mind, being that we are of God, our theories must either bring us toward God, or be disproven. I don't see why God can't be using evolution as a machine of creation. Our ignorant ancestors didn't know some things that we take today as a given, like the size of the Earth, or the fact that the Earth revolves around the sun. Of course they couldn't adequately explain something like the creation of the universe, the Earth, Man, etc. Why should we limit ourselves to their world view? I think since God created the universe, he created conditions that made it inevitable that Man (and other intelligent life elsewhere) would appear. Harte [/QUOTE]
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