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<blockquote data-quote="BubbuClinton" data-source="post: 27029" data-attributes="member: 395"><p><strong>Re: Treeees!!!</strong></p><p></p><p>Observer,</p><p></p><p>Like I said I lean toward a prepared earth. I don't spout it as a final truth. DNA is one of my arguments not the evolutionists. Evolution has a lot of merit in it. However, like you said it is far from conclusive. Like you, I don't think that either theory should be taught as a true but rather an idea or theory. To me to say that DNA spontaneously evolved is akin to the little green men, burning bushes an such you like to talk about on Sunday. DNA is a perfect example of an unexplainable evidence of something other than evolution. Chemical reactions don't spontaneously form life. That is like Douglas Adams spouting about a Whale and flower pot spontaneously forming out of tracking missiles. Very improbable. </p><p></p><p>As for God, or aliens or what ever you want to call it, I still feel to ignore the spiritual side of life is to throw away half of the evidence. Just because you don't want to consider it, doesn't mean it is irrational or wrong. Ancient records from all sources should be taught in school as evidence to the history of the thought of man. Nothing wrong there. Each person should be free to identify with the belief system they choose. Evolutionist, just tend to think they have the truth and refuse to acknowledge any sources that do not confirm their own theories.</p><p></p><p>As for gravity, this is interesting. I would ask you to define what gravity is and how it works. Even Newton could not define gravity or how it works, all he could do is describe its effects. How did gravity develop? did it spontaneously evolve after mass exploded from some mystical big explosion of all mass from nothing? Hmmmm, does this sound like science or some wacko belief system that should be taught on Sunday? More interesting is the nuclear forces. What makes them work. Not how do affect things, but how do they work? no one knows. If they spontaneously evolved what happened before they evolved? Did they always exist, then why was there a Big Bang and what could have existed before everything exploded from nothing.</p><p></p><p>No I don't know the answers either. My beef, like yours, was the spouting of a theory as truth. All are free to examine all things. Just don't shove things at me like 200,000 years ago man created primitive religion and worshiped the Sun because he didn't understand the world and this developed into modern religion. How in the world would anyone know this. Evolutionist make stuff up like that and call people who believe in a religion crazy. I think it crazy to make up stuff and believe it becaue I made it up. A classic is life spontaneously evolved from organic compounds and then formed complex DNA structures. Oh, do you have evidence of this? Well, no but that is the way it is because I say so.</p><p></p><p>I have no beef with you at all for having an alternative view, as long as you say it is a view or theory, go right a head and study it. That is how real science is done. I am not anti-science. I am fascinated with it. I am not anti-evolution. I just don't pin my believes on the changing whims of the science of the day. It evolves everyday (pun intended).</p><p></p><p>I disagree with your interpretation of the fossil record but respect your right to believe things spontaneously change species. That is a big logical leap that escapes me some how.</p><p></p><p>The whole world is not laughing at America because of its science or advanced education systems. Maybe the Germans are, but I won't go there. (I am unfamiliar about what is taught in Kansas). In fact, most of the world is running scared of our science. What scares them is not that we have developed things, but we have leaders that may be foolish enough to use them. Most of the world is more concerned about our politics rather than our science or education. I do admit that High school is a waste in most of the US school systems. But most Universities make up for the inadequate education in High Schools.</p><p></p><p>Rant away. I can take it. I don't get offended by ideas, I am not shaken by coherent thought. You may even convince me that I am off of my rocker. I probably am. I am the first to admit it. I do get irritated at people that think they are so smar that they think everyone who believes in a form of God is loony. I think that maybe they are missing the bigger point or life. I have never met a truly smart person who would not admit they didn't know everything.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I guess I am ranting back at you.</p><p></p><p>Bubbu.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BubbuClinton, post: 27029, member: 395"] [b]Re: Treeees!!![/b] Observer, Like I said I lean toward a prepared earth. I don't spout it as a final truth. DNA is one of my arguments not the evolutionists. Evolution has a lot of merit in it. However, like you said it is far from conclusive. Like you, I don't think that either theory should be taught as a true but rather an idea or theory. To me to say that DNA spontaneously evolved is akin to the little green men, burning bushes an such you like to talk about on Sunday. DNA is a perfect example of an unexplainable evidence of something other than evolution. Chemical reactions don't spontaneously form life. That is like Douglas Adams spouting about a Whale and flower pot spontaneously forming out of tracking missiles. Very improbable. As for God, or aliens or what ever you want to call it, I still feel to ignore the spiritual side of life is to throw away half of the evidence. Just because you don't want to consider it, doesn't mean it is irrational or wrong. Ancient records from all sources should be taught in school as evidence to the history of the thought of man. Nothing wrong there. Each person should be free to identify with the belief system they choose. Evolutionist, just tend to think they have the truth and refuse to acknowledge any sources that do not confirm their own theories. As for gravity, this is interesting. I would ask you to define what gravity is and how it works. Even Newton could not define gravity or how it works, all he could do is describe its effects. How did gravity develop? did it spontaneously evolve after mass exploded from some mystical big explosion of all mass from nothing? Hmmmm, does this sound like science or some wacko belief system that should be taught on Sunday? More interesting is the nuclear forces. What makes them work. Not how do affect things, but how do they work? no one knows. If they spontaneously evolved what happened before they evolved? Did they always exist, then why was there a Big Bang and what could have existed before everything exploded from nothing. No I don't know the answers either. My beef, like yours, was the spouting of a theory as truth. All are free to examine all things. Just don't shove things at me like 200,000 years ago man created primitive religion and worshiped the Sun because he didn't understand the world and this developed into modern religion. How in the world would anyone know this. Evolutionist make stuff up like that and call people who believe in a religion crazy. I think it crazy to make up stuff and believe it becaue I made it up. A classic is life spontaneously evolved from organic compounds and then formed complex DNA structures. Oh, do you have evidence of this? Well, no but that is the way it is because I say so. I have no beef with you at all for having an alternative view, as long as you say it is a view or theory, go right a head and study it. That is how real science is done. I am not anti-science. I am fascinated with it. I am not anti-evolution. I just don't pin my believes on the changing whims of the science of the day. It evolves everyday (pun intended). I disagree with your interpretation of the fossil record but respect your right to believe things spontaneously change species. That is a big logical leap that escapes me some how. The whole world is not laughing at America because of its science or advanced education systems. Maybe the Germans are, but I won't go there. (I am unfamiliar about what is taught in Kansas). In fact, most of the world is running scared of our science. What scares them is not that we have developed things, but we have leaders that may be foolish enough to use them. Most of the world is more concerned about our politics rather than our science or education. I do admit that High school is a waste in most of the US school systems. But most Universities make up for the inadequate education in High Schools. Rant away. I can take it. I don't get offended by ideas, I am not shaken by coherent thought. You may even convince me that I am off of my rocker. I probably am. I am the first to admit it. I do get irritated at people that think they are so smar that they think everyone who believes in a form of God is loony. I think that maybe they are missing the bigger point or life. I have never met a truly smart person who would not admit they didn't know everything. Anyway, I guess I am ranting back at you. Bubbu. [/QUOTE]
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