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What causes relativity?

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  1. NaturalPhilosopher

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    well here's a good animation of what happens with the doppler shift in air.

    "One of the easiest ways to visualize the Doppler effect is to imagine a bug gliding across the surface of a puddle. First, let’s picture what the disturbances in the puddle would look like if the bug was stationary, vibrating its legs and producing waves in the puddle. The disturbances would propagate outward from the bug in spherical waves, resembling what is seen in the image above. However, what would happen to these waves if the bug started moving across the water? The water flow around the bug would change so that the waves are closer together in front of the bug, and farther apart behind it. This can be seen in the following animation: https://cdn.comsol.com/wordpress/2013/07/Doppler-effect-animation.gif "

    Catch that? "However, what would happen to these waves if the bug started moving across the water? The water flow around the bug would change so that the waves are closer together in front of the bug, and farther apart behind it."

    Means the water around the moving object changes. Perhaps the higgs field also does. Makes ya go hmmm.

    source: What is the Doppler Effect? | COMSOL Blog

    Science has established that all mass comes from outside the particle in homogeneous field all around us. Also established moving mass has a doppler effect just like stuff in air or water.
     


  3. NaturalPhilosopher

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    Most explanations of relativity only get into correlation(speed of light relationship of mass, etc) but not causation. Obviously the higgs field is the causative effect.

    So to go back in time is to change the higgs field in a specific way. Is that what negative mass does?
     


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    Relativity is caused by the normalization of the 4-velocity. This normalization is an axiom of the theory of special (general) relativity and experiments encourage us to believe that theory's axioms are accurate. The 4-velocity measures the rate of the passage of time and the rate of passage of three dimensions of space (passage of space means motion.) Altogether the 4-velocity squared is always equal to the speed of light squared for any real trajectory in spacetime. If you move fast then your external time goes slower to maintain the normalized 4-velocity. If you slow down then your external time speeds up until you stop. When you stop your external time is equal to your proper time. If you stay still then the proper time you experience while still is equal to the external time measured by another person standing still with you. This is the non-relativistic limit. Proper time is how much time you think you experienced and the external time is how much time someone who watches you will say you experienced. You are always still in your own reference frame, that is the frame where it seems like the universe is moving (or not) but you are still. Relativity has to do with the way you measure time in your own frame relative to the way others will measure time when describing your motion in the reference frame where the universe is still and you are moving. If the universe is still and you and someone watching you are all still (no relative motion) then there is no relativity. If someone starts moving then their time will have to slow down as measured by the person who observes that motion but the moving person's proper time stays the same because in their frame it is the universe that is moving. If their motion increased and their external time did not decrease in kind then the 4-velocity would increase but as stated above it is subject to a universal normalization condition. Snails, planets, and spaceships all always have the same 4-velocity in spacetime. Relativity measures how much people in relative motion to each other will disagree about how much time has elapsed. This time dilation has a parallel component called length contraction and there is some highly sophisticated nuance related to Mach's principle.

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  5. The Fifth

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    To explain it in a nutshell , the faster you move the slower time flows around you. At light speed , time seems to be frozen. A black hole is not a hole but a spherical object who holds light until it releases it at the two poles N,S. A black hole compresses all of matter and releases it. The idea that it stops time is from the fact that you can't see a black hole because light can't escape it. That's because light is inside it and it's released at the two poles as the example is with our milky way galaxy's giant black hole.

    The theory that has not been accepted officially is that a black hole spits the matter into the empty spaces of the universe to form new stars, in other words , a huge recycling factory.
     
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    I'm aware of all that, but why does it happen?
     
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    The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind...

    Harte
     
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    The effect is required for observers in relative motion to agree on a mathematical description of what happened. If you never try to make a mathematical description then you can always assume that Nature is non-relativistic and you never come across on observation of Nature that will tell you otherwise.
     
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    sure but does anyone see the connection between the higgs field and inertial mass and time dilation?
    Is there a direct connection between the higgs field and spacetime?
    Is there a way to alter the higgs field without fast speeds or being near large planets?

    makes ya go hmm.

    Is that what all the hidden techology is doing electromagnetically? So I guess the holy grail is to unify EM with higgs bosons if they're responsible for inertial masses. They certainly are for gravitational mass.

    spacetime is external to mass objects(well known in physics, electrons are point particles, no width, depth and length. Is it getting it's mass from higgs bosons in spacetime or is spacetime itself a higgs field?
     
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    The world is running on laws that are some-what similar to a game. The script makes the laws of the game. Learn what the script is first. Higgs boson is only the grid of reference on where you can create something in a 3D program. Even Higgs Boson has a law that concepts it, a script.

    I just compared life's mechanics with a game made in a 3D program . Perhaps it helps a little.. (y)