What Evidence Would You Need for a Time Travel Claim?

Discussion in 'Time Travel Discussion' started by temporal recon, Jul 2, 2012.

  1. titorite Senior Member

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    Why would a time traveller expose themselves?

    Immaterial. Not relevant to the question of the thread. The question of the thread was, "What would you need for a time travels claim?" This is obvious troll research. Once finished said troll could enjoy many manipulations on the Time travel institute, anomilies, elsewhere....fuck that.


    Titor exposed himself. He did (I think) because he could and he knew he could get away with it for a time longer..... And he did not even expose himself..... He was never exposed....just open.


    Now here today.. time has moved technology forward.

    Would a worldline traveler expose themselves here and now in todays world? I doubt it.... but face book was not their in 99.... nor was myspace......nor was their a camera in every cell phone... hell in 99 people still used pagers. You remember the beeper right? Dead tech now but back in 99 it was hot shit.

    What evidence would I need?

    Fuck if I know and damned if I would say. Troll thread gets no troll bait from me.
  2. Sliders Member

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    How can you be so sure it was only ONE John, even when he was in our WL (spoke) we had 2 of them here, what if their were others? also if original john at 2036 jumped WL (spoke) then can we assume, other John's on other WL (spokes..) also jumped?
  3. Samstwitch Moderator

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    Could some of these scenes be video clips of the Occupy Wall Street conflicts?
  4. Sliders Member

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    Yes and also of revolutions across the globe.........(that have passed)
  5. temporal recon Member

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    We know there was only one John (or rather, one team) because only ONE John left his original world line. The odds of multiple Johns landing on the same world line (ours) is so astronimically small that it is, essentially, (almost but not quite) impossible.
    This is correct. Imagine two mirrors facing each other.
  6. temporal recon Member

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    I can appreciate your concern that this thread's purpose is simply to compile information. I assure you, that is not the case, though...what would it take you to believe such an assurance?

    No, my purpose for asking the question was to highlight the many times debunkers and those who do not wish to grapple with the idea of time travel by using the "that was easily guessed" or the "that was just a coincidence" arguments.

    As ever
    Kind Regards
    TR
  7. HDRKID Senior Member

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    I predicted that there would be no economic recovery. Also, that things would get worse.

    THIS JUST IN.
    TAKEN FROM Amazon reports weak results, shares slip - Yahoo! News UK
    Amazon shares slipped slightly to $221 in after-hours trading after the results.
    The company said its third-quarter net loss was $274 million (170 million pounds), or 60 cents a share, versus net income of $63 million, or 14 cents a share, in the third quarter of 2011. Part of the loss was related to an impairment charge from Amazon's investment in daily deal company LivingSocial.

    Debunkers say that everything is fine and I am crazy. Well, look at amazon. They are the biggest internet retailing company. Like they are losing money. That is not a good sign.
  8. bomberman Junior Member

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    Wow u just keep amazing me with your incredible predictions, hdrkid !
  9. titorite Senior Member

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    I must say I greatly misjudged your original intent.

    My apoligies.
  10. titorite Senior Member

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    I did and as it turns out they are not very theoretical at all but rather very very real and observed.

    LOFAR Telescope captures super-massive black hole as it inflates giant bubble
    Washington, October 30 (ANI): Astronomers have used a brand-new radio telescope to produce one of the best images ever made at the lowest frequencies of giant bubbles produced by a super-massive black hole The …Smash Hits.com · 10/29/2012
    Super-massive black hole inflates giant bubble
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    LOFAR Sees Bubble of Particles in M87
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    In-depth coverage
    Monster Galaxy May Have Been Stirred Up By Black-hole Mischief
    The team is now conducting follow-up observations with the Very Large Array radio telescope (VLA) in New Mexico. The astronomers expect material falling onto a black hole to emit radio waves, among other types of …Hubble Site · 10/25/2012
    Monster Galaxy Stirred Up by Black-Hole Mischief?
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    Monster galaxy's puffy core may have been created by merging black holes
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    Revealing a mini-supermassive black hole
    Of these four black holes, two have masses that may be close to that of the black hole in NGC 4178. XMM-Newton observations of an X-ray source discovered by Chandra in the center of the galaxy NGC 4561 indicate that …Eureka! Science News · 10/24/2012
    Light-Weight Supermassive Black Hole Discovered
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  11. titorite Senior Member

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    I just have to wonder... if such is exactly so as you put it... how has any nuclear explosion ever been filmed?
  12. titorite Senior Member

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    Upon reflection my answer is short and it is "hindsight", hindsight is what it takes to make me see.... maybe that will change for me some day.
  13. Einstein Active Member

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    I did spend some time looking through these articles and still don't see anyone actually claiming credit for discovering the FIRST black hole yet. But some of the articles seem to have ignored the confirmation requirement and gone ahead assuming they exist and claiming they cause huge bursts of energy. Kind of like assuming the world is flat and you will fall off the edge if you walk far enough. So I'm suspecting that you haven't as yet learned to pick out the facts is these kinds of articles.

    If an astronomer does actually confirm the existence of a black hole, he will become famous. His name will be spoken by all. You'll even know his name. So after reading all those articles you posted, what was his name?

    I did a search on that. Funny... no names.

    When I first came across them, they were not called black hole. They were called Schwarzschild discontinuities.

    Dan's Web Project: Who Discovered Black Holes?

    All About Black Holes: Formation & Discovery| Black Hole Facts & Information | Space.com


    The above quote is highly suspicious to me. What I do see is there seems to be energy producing phenomena that they are claiming is caused by a black hole.

    So now we are on the subject of making stuff up. Here's my theory: When a huge star reaches the end of its life, it goes supernova. Releasing more energy output than the entire universe of stars combined. During that brief instant the supernova exists a black hole is formed to counteract the white hole. The two events exist simultaneously in time and cancel each other out. And from that point in time forward, both the white hole and black hole no longer exist.
  14. Einstein Active Member

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    All filming was done outside the blast radius. There are a few films out there of what happens inside the blast radius. Evidently taken with special highly shielded cameras that filmed the event in progress.
  15. titorite Senior Member

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  16. Einstein Active Member

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    It's like the astronomical community has decided to skip the proof by direct observation stage and just assume it to be true. I haven't found anyone in the community at large willing to take credit for discovering a black hole. Did you check that list? All those black holes and no astronomers names associated with any of them. That one fact should tell you that you're being fed a load of crap. And from the size of that list, a very big load at that. But you can skip the facts too if you like and just be a believer.

    I kind of want to know who is behind this farce and why they want us to blindly believe. Remember my theory that the ET's have the most to gain from keeping us in the dark. Probably because they know we would go back in time and remove their home planet from the universe before they ever evolved. A payback they rightly deserve too.
  17. titorite Senior Member

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    Black Holes - What is a black hole?



    I'm just saying man... either you are the one eyed king or you're mistaken.
  18. Einstein Active Member

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    Titorite

    Did you read that article you posted? It was very informative and supported everything I've been trying to convey. Black Holes are a belief and all existing evidence can be interpreted with other theories out there. So says this article. The thing I want to point out is that a theory is make believe. Yet all through school I was led to believe that theories describe our reality. What happened to facts? Sad to say that facts weren't being taught when I went to school.
  19. temporal recon Member

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    No apologies required, it happens often.
  20. temporal recon Member

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    No apologies required, it happens often.

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