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Who Perpetrated the John Titor Hoax?
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<blockquote data-quote="Peregrini" data-source="post: 53345" data-attributes="member: 2670"><p>No, I have no exposed nerves when it comes to this story. I do call BS'ers out now and then. If you had been open and honest when you began posting, that you had authored a book about JT, everyone would have known your motivation regarding JT and could react to you then, according to their own feelings.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>You became a member here on Dec. 12 2011. Your first post was on Dec 13, 2011 yet, this seems to be the first time you admitted involvement with the book.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Here you finally admit it is your book.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>When and where did you first announce the book's existance?</p><p></p><p>Yet, you don't heed your own advice.</p><p></p><p>Semantics: a distinction without a difference</p><p>fact noun</p><p>1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.</p><p>2.something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact.</p><p>3.a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth.</p><p>4.something said to be true or supposed to have happened: The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.</p><p>proof noun</p><p>1. evidence sufficient to establish a thing as true, or to produce belief in its truth.</p><p>2. anything serving as such evidence: What proof do you have?</p><p>3. the act of testing or making trial of anything; test; trial: to put a thing to the proof.</p><p>4. the establishment of the truth of anything; demonstration</p><p>proof</p><p>1. any evidence that establishes or helps to establish the truth, validity, quality, etc, of something</p><p>ev·i·dence noun</p><p>1. that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof.</p><p>2. something that makes plain or clear; an indication or sign: His flushed look was visible evidence of his fever.</p><p>evidence</p><p>1. ground for belief or disbelief; data on which to base proof or to establish truth or falsehood</p><p>spec·u·la·tion noun</p><p>1.the contemplation or consideration of some subject: to engage in speculation on humanity's ultimate destiny.</p><p>2.a single instance or process of consideration.</p><p>3.a conclusion or opinion reached by such contemplation: These speculations are impossible to verify.</p><p>4.conjectural consideration of a matter; conjecture or surmise: a report based on speculation rather than facts.</p><p><a href="http://dictionary.reference.com" target="_blank">Dictionary.com | Find the Meanings and Definitions of Words at Dictionary.com</a></p><p>I haven't mixed the choice of words up. I used the ones I wanted to, how I wanted to.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I know this because you do not have Mr. John Titor to ask if your evidence is "correctly" interpreted. He is not here to be cross examined by anyone. I do not need to see what you have speculated about and made assumptions about. If you are speculating about any thing in your book, that does not appear in any of the original posts, you have inadmissible evidence.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>(Arthur Schopenhauer, you forgot to credit your source)</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>(He doth quote Shakespeare)</p><p></p><p> </p><p>So, you admit you are inventing evidence?</p><p></p><p> </p><p>Name just a few.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>I never assume. It doesn't matter if it was a retail version or built special for him... the parts were expensive...the unit was expensive... there is no information available as to how many were built or sold.</p><p></p><p> </p><p>R&D costs are different than the cost of producing a working unit... which John must have gotten or his trip would have been for naught.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>It's curious that you would assert that you "know my mind". I have offered to put "my actual truth" up next to yours and let them be compared side by side by you and I and everyone else. But you continue to avoid this.</p><p>Here is an offer to help dispel our argument.</p><p>Present your choice of any of the evidence from your book here. A snippet or two if you will. A paragraph where you lay out your evidence and explain your position on the evidence and how it "proves" John Titor was a "real" time traveler.</p><p>You may pique someone's interest in your book. Shoot, you may even sell one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Peregrini, post: 53345, member: 2670"] No, I have no exposed nerves when it comes to this story. I do call BS'ers out now and then. If you had been open and honest when you began posting, that you had authored a book about JT, everyone would have known your motivation regarding JT and could react to you then, according to their own feelings. You became a member here on Dec. 12 2011. Your first post was on Dec 13, 2011 yet, this seems to be the first time you admitted involvement with the book. Here you finally admit it is your book. When and where did you first announce the book's existance? Yet, you don't heed your own advice. Semantics: a distinction without a difference fact noun 1. something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact. 2.something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact. 3.a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth. 4.something said to be true or supposed to have happened: The facts given by the witness are highly questionable. proof noun 1. evidence sufficient to establish a thing as true, or to produce belief in its truth. 2. anything serving as such evidence: What proof do you have? 3. the act of testing or making trial of anything; test; trial: to put a thing to the proof. 4. the establishment of the truth of anything; demonstration proof 1. any evidence that establishes or helps to establish the truth, validity, quality, etc, of something ev·i·dence noun 1. that which tends to prove or disprove something; ground for belief; proof. 2. something that makes plain or clear; an indication or sign: His flushed look was visible evidence of his fever. evidence 1. ground for belief or disbelief; data on which to base proof or to establish truth or falsehood spec·u·la·tion noun 1.the contemplation or consideration of some subject: to engage in speculation on humanity's ultimate destiny. 2.a single instance or process of consideration. 3.a conclusion or opinion reached by such contemplation: These speculations are impossible to verify. 4.conjectural consideration of a matter; conjecture or surmise: a report based on speculation rather than facts. [url="http://dictionary.reference.com"]Dictionary.com | Find the Meanings and Definitions of Words at Dictionary.com[/url] I haven't mixed the choice of words up. I used the ones I wanted to, how I wanted to. I know this because you do not have Mr. John Titor to ask if your evidence is "correctly" interpreted. He is not here to be cross examined by anyone. I do not need to see what you have speculated about and made assumptions about. If you are speculating about any thing in your book, that does not appear in any of the original posts, you have inadmissible evidence. (Arthur Schopenhauer, you forgot to credit your source) (He doth quote Shakespeare) So, you admit you are inventing evidence? Name just a few. I never assume. It doesn't matter if it was a retail version or built special for him... the parts were expensive...the unit was expensive... there is no information available as to how many were built or sold. R&D costs are different than the cost of producing a working unit... which John must have gotten or his trip would have been for naught. It's curious that you would assert that you "know my mind". I have offered to put "my actual truth" up next to yours and let them be compared side by side by you and I and everyone else. But you continue to avoid this. Here is an offer to help dispel our argument. Present your choice of any of the evidence from your book here. A snippet or two if you will. A paragraph where you lay out your evidence and explain your position on the evidence and how it "proves" John Titor was a "real" time traveler. You may pique someone's interest in your book. Shoot, you may even sell one. [/QUOTE]
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