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Who Perpetrated the John Titor Hoax?
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<blockquote data-quote="Peregrini" data-source="post: 53410" data-attributes="member: 2670"><p>Well, a search for "hard evidence" gave me 19,800,000 results in 0.25 seconds. As I read a few of them I did realize my error. I am a scientist at heart. In science, evidence is often referred to as hard and soft. After all these years it is just second nature to use terms I am most familiar with. Sorry for any confusion.</p><p>Ok then;</p><p>Lets talk about continuity.</p><p>... et idem indignor quandoque bonus dormitat Homerus</p><p>Horace...ars poetica</p><p> </p><p>Translation for you or you can check it yourself</p><p>... and yet I also become annoyed whenever the great Homer nods off.</p><p>Horace...ars poetica</p><p>In modern Homeric scholarship many of Homer's "nods" are<span style="color: #ff9900"> explicable as the consequences of the poem being retold and improvised by generations of oral poets.</span> So in the second case cited above, <span style="color: #ff9900">it is likely that two different versions are being conflated</span>: one version with an embassy of three people, another with just two people.</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuity_(fiction" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuity_(fiction</a>)</p><p> </p><p>Translated logically for you;</p><p>Evidence (or facts or proof whatever you wish to call them) used by Titor experts, taken from all over the internet, interpreted by anyone with a computer, redisplayed as "proof" Titor was a "real" time traveler, will ( and I mean will...I do not assume it) become adulterated, contaminated, or corrupted. When you use this as the basis of a premise you have nothing useful. Only opinion, conjecture, and speculation. Remember the old computer axiom; Garbage in...Garbage out.</p><p>This is why I only used Titor's original posts and compared them to the "Real World". Do I still do this today? No. It wasn't that long ago that I examined it.</p><p>Nothing he said then provided any "evidence" to "prove" he was a "real" time traveler. Therefore I do not, can not, and will not accept "as fact" that he was a "real" time traveler.</p><p>There was no reason to believe his story 12 years ago. There is no reason to believe "that" has changed just because, over the past 12 years, the Titor enthusiasts have adjusted his original posts, added to their meaning, or otherwise changed "the intent at the time" to fit their fantasy.</p><p>I can see the reasons why some people want to, have to, continue to believe Titor was a time traveler. That's fine. Please continue. Just don't expect everyone to agree with you or be surprised or insulted when they don't.</p><p>I do not see this discussion heading anywhere important so I wonder, shall we continue?</p><p>Besides, and most importantly, when Samstwitch comes back, she is gonna be pissed, and when she yells at me, I am gonna point my finger straight at you and say, "It was his fault. He made me do it."</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Your welcome.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Peregrini, post: 53410, member: 2670"] Well, a search for "hard evidence" gave me 19,800,000 results in 0.25 seconds. As I read a few of them I did realize my error. I am a scientist at heart. In science, evidence is often referred to as hard and soft. After all these years it is just second nature to use terms I am most familiar with. Sorry for any confusion. Ok then; Lets talk about continuity. ... et idem indignor quandoque bonus dormitat Homerus Horace...ars poetica Translation for you or you can check it yourself ... and yet I also become annoyed whenever the great Homer nods off. Horace...ars poetica In modern Homeric scholarship many of Homer's "nods" are[COLOR=#ff9900] explicable as the consequences of the poem being retold and improvised by generations of oral poets.[/COLOR] So in the second case cited above, [COLOR=#ff9900]it is likely that two different versions are being conflated[/COLOR]: one version with an embassy of three people, another with just two people. [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuity_(fiction"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuity_(fiction[/url]) Translated logically for you; Evidence (or facts or proof whatever you wish to call them) used by Titor experts, taken from all over the internet, interpreted by anyone with a computer, redisplayed as "proof" Titor was a "real" time traveler, will ( and I mean will...I do not assume it) become adulterated, contaminated, or corrupted. When you use this as the basis of a premise you have nothing useful. Only opinion, conjecture, and speculation. Remember the old computer axiom; Garbage in...Garbage out. This is why I only used Titor's original posts and compared them to the "Real World". Do I still do this today? No. It wasn't that long ago that I examined it. Nothing he said then provided any "evidence" to "prove" he was a "real" time traveler. Therefore I do not, can not, and will not accept "as fact" that he was a "real" time traveler. There was no reason to believe his story 12 years ago. There is no reason to believe "that" has changed just because, over the past 12 years, the Titor enthusiasts have adjusted his original posts, added to their meaning, or otherwise changed "the intent at the time" to fit their fantasy. I can see the reasons why some people want to, have to, continue to believe Titor was a time traveler. That's fine. Please continue. Just don't expect everyone to agree with you or be surprised or insulted when they don't. I do not see this discussion heading anywhere important so I wonder, shall we continue? Besides, and most importantly, when Samstwitch comes back, she is gonna be pissed, and when she yells at me, I am gonna point my finger straight at you and say, "It was his fault. He made me do it." Your welcome. [/QUOTE]
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