Debate Experimentation

Phil Wainwright

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Sorry, just noted an error... (still can't seem to edit my own posts.....)

The initial power supply can supply a constant 10 amps at 24vdc I have a +ve and -ve output of 10amp each at 12v and the ability to step this up to a maximum of 25kV but obviously at only around 0.009v (SHOULD be 0.009 AMPS)

Just thought, may have to use a sand egg timer as the time recorder.... will not be as affected by the intense EMF I hope to create.......
 

Tron1

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hey phil I was wondering if I could come over and help you with this experiment want to be part of something amazing also I write movie scripts so if one day you decide to write a movie about this stuff I will write away you got to pay for the plane though I will pay for anything else cheers
Barry Doherty good luck my friend in case I never meet you
 

Phil Wainwright

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Well, this may be possible, but as I mentioned in the PM, I am a little stuck until 17th January. If all goes well then, I see no problem. I will have the necessary pennies, and also I will be hopefully moving house once the sales of the new system start coming in and I can afford to pay myself :D

I would need the space to be able to do the experiment and also for visitors.... my current house is far too small, and also I am thinking about creating an experiment area using a small shipping container where the steel housing is tied to ground as a form of reinforced faraday cage :)

Just in case ;)
 

Ren

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Everything is the same thing vibrating at different speeds. It is all connected.

So a collection of matter such as a 6 sided die is just slow moving light with polar opposite points that generate a magnetic field. This magnetic field is the ebb and flow of time and it is the weight of gravity. All of these things are different faces of the same die.

This is the UFT. You can turn water into wine and a rock into gold. All you need is speed. You can turn the future into the past.
 

Phil Wainwright

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Update, I am still in the assembly stage, but I have a plan for my experiment...... Please let me know what you think to the goals, and also the overall plan......

I guess that the first part of my experiment is to actually work out what the experiment goals are. So, what are my goals? initially to try and see if I can create any effect that is unusual, based on the basic knowledge I have on the original experiment.

As far as I can tell, the original purpose of the Philly exp. was to provide invisibility to what became known as magnetic mines. These are not mines that are held in place by magnets (these are limpet mines); rather a 'magnetic mine' would be triggered by changes in localised magnetic fields. Therefore the mine does not need to touch the ship in order to blow up. This was a known process called degaussing and was a method to neutralise the residual magnetic field that builds up in ferrous material over time.

I am not sure of the thought processes which led from degaussing to radar invisibility, but it could be as simple as someone saying 'I wonder what happens if we turn this power control all the way up?" because my original source is probably not as in depth as some of you guys on here have been exposed to (my initial source of information is the book by Charles Berlitz) I am probably missing a lot of details.

So the goal of the experiment is simply to try and re-create the experiment based on creating as big an EMF as possible and see what happens. Then analyse the results to see what, if any, next steps are to be carried out.

The problem with this experiment is that there are so many variations on what is believed and what is written. Some stories state that the whole process was purely to ensure the ships were 'invisible to magnetic mines' and that the word invisible has taken on other meanings, such as invisible to radar, or full optical invisibility. Other stories state that the system was never intended to create the effects that it did, and everything that happened was a complete surprise. So, my initial experiments will be to create the most intense magnetic field across a range of voltages and frequencies to see if I can get any effect that remotely resembles the green mist, or a hull shaped depression in the water.

In some of the stories, dimension travel, time travel and teleportation are mentioned..... I guess I will not even really consider any of this unless I can at least create a Green Fog.

So what is the real story and how could I (little old me with a budget of only a few hundred pounds) possibly try to get some definitive idea of what happened.

Some other information that I have received is that my idea for the experiment will not work because I do not have a device for controlling this by use of brain waves...... but I have not heard about this in any of the stuff I have read. As far as the basic recreation (attempt), I do not think that this brain wave monitoring would be needed.

What knowledge do I have about technology of the original experiment, and what knowledge do I have to try and recreate this?

My training is Naval. I was a radio/radar officer. So I have experience of the theory behind the original equipment used. The one consistent fact I get exposed to is that the original Philly Exp. used a Sage Radar as this was declassified at the time of the experiment. The other fact I have hear from more than one source is that there was supposed to be a huge bar magnet 'Weighing Many Tons' and this is used to explain why the listed weight of the Lion and the Eldridge are different.

We know the Sage Radar system operated between 425 and 450 MHz. I have a frequency Generator ordered that can cover this frequency range. But of course a frequency generator is not designed to give very high power outputs. So by coupling the output of the frequency generator to a high power high frequency amplifier, I believe that I can create a high energy EMF. I will create the Royer oscillator with the aim that the oscillation frequency is set by the frequency generator, but I may also create a circuit that is in effect an weld power source output stage. Again with the waveforms being created by the function generators. This has two advantages, one that not being a true oscillator, I can use the full range of waveform shapes. The other advantage is that when you consider the mig welding process, you are effectively creating a dead-short. Therefore I know that this circuit design is going to be ideal for running as a 'modified short circuit' power source and will give me up-to 1000 amps at between 1 to 35 volts. The output of this can be fed directly to the coils in order to generate a high current low voltage EMF, or through a 25000:1 step-up transformer. This has been wound using HT rated silicon wire (spark plug wire) and then dipped in enamel to protect even further against flash over (The HT transformer has been the most expesive single component so far, costing as much as everything else together). The step up gives the potential for 25kV output. Although once the first tests are done I may see how high we can go before it flashes..... if the dielectric strength is good enough, we could in theory have an output of 875,000v...

So on the practical side of the experiment? Once everything is here, assembled and safety checked as far as possible, and the coils are covered with polyurethane tubing (so that conductivity of the water does not change the electrical properties of the coils) then they will be suspended in a small aquarium full of water. One of my destroyer escort models will be floated in the centre of a coil and then I shall hit the power. The destroyer escort models have a slot included to allow me to place a 120mm neodymium bar magnet into the model. Maybe a series of tests with and without the magnet.

Due to the microprocessor control, the plan is to provide a frequency sweep at maybe 5 kHz intervals at a preset voltage; then increase the voltage by 5V and repeat the frequency scan. This will happen from 5 to 35v and then I shall connect the HT output. Obviously the first scan will be at 1v input (25kv output) and maybe increase by 1v on the input until I hit maximum or I get flash over of the transformer.

It will take me a few more weeks (plus two for Christmas) before I am ready to run the experiment. I will have the capability to provide upto 7 streaming video feeds, two channels of oscilloscope, voltage current, and time stamps. All live. I shall be setting up a website just to host this data (I have a few hundred gigabytes free on my server, so will host and record it all there). About a week before I am ready to run the full test, I shall post an invite to allow people to log on and watch...... Success or failure, it will all be done live.....:eek:




Cheers Phil.
 
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Tron1

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I have decided to help phil write a movie while he's conducting experiments and commenting on his experiments but also am typing from America when he is over in England or something like that. I will be typing rapidly so that explains my mistakes on the keyboard if anyone has any ideas to bring up into a movie script I will take them into consideration and you will get credit for it. but no cash I am tight on cash. when the box office takes off flying high then maybe I will throw you all something. the script I am currently working on is called the dream machine based on the hdr I have the copyrights because it's finished. it will be filmed in april. When this happens the script is 96 pages long and 1:36 minutes long by that I mean one hour and thirty six minutes.

This is for real I hope to be making some where around 37.5 million dollars out my first movie. this has potential to make that much. I have to wait until next year to receive my box office check and when the dvd's come out that's when everything will take off. this all has to deal with your favorite stuff the hdr unit and the future what to expect and what not to expect. phil's experiments are going to be filmed and I will take those films and turn them into millions so your looking at a future millionaire in his bad days of his life. I hope to make 2.5 million on the dvd's. The plot on the movie of the Dream machine goes like this someone from the future brings someone to the future with a better machine version of the hdr and brings them to 2025. only' to see that their families are a little bit different to what they expected to be. peter goes to his house and see wife look ugly and has aged drastically. Barry finds out that his mother died of cancer from smoking cigarette's and his father is in regret in the movie.

When they go to the work scene everybody has changed when they find out that there are alternate doubles of their selves. sorry I am slowing down typing. I haven't typed this much in awhile. peter an Barry are also fbi agents trying to get the person that sent them to the future which is Tommy Dejana. he gets busted for insider trading in sports betting as he made a fortune in sports betting. I could tell you everything about the script but then I would lose the customers that go to the movies. When I make the film all the regulars that come online will get a discount and will have a chance to see the movie itself for ten bucks a movie. I hope that you all enjoy this thriller cause it's a dandy good one. anyone have anything to help me with on the script please tell me now so I can tell my writer. my writer is sean stevens from Braintree,ma he is a friend of mine as I went to school with him. but a different school he went one town over.

I have a good reputation in life but I am having a bad time with my parents go figure. It's like they don't care about me anymore. this movie will show what i'm all about and what they have to deal with. their not getting a dime for their ignorance towards me. and the time machine. that steven gibbs built I've also had good days and bad my thoughts always flicker around. When I take a certain pill it gets me going and my thought's race and end up writing in my notebook free hand. I have better hand writing than Obama lol. when I am done with this film like I said earlier I will start filming phil's recreation of the Philadelphia experiment. well, this is as much explanation I can give you oh, I almost forgot I have written five other scripts that have been unproduced while on a certain medication. if you have any question's please type them here.
BD
 

Ren

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Repel mines, Phil.
Ian Fleming mentions it.
It was called Operation Sea Lion.
You'd be better off working for G.E. under the U.S. Government.
You'll never get the materials you need otherwise.
 

Phil Wainwright

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Can't work for a US govt dept! But I am sure my old contacts still in the MOD may be able to help from this side of the pond if necessary....

Just one thought...... Not urgent, but could people who would be interested in seeing the powering up of the system (new year, don't panic) please post their time zones please.

I could imagine nothing worse than posting the results and everyone saying 'Ha, couldn't see it, I was in bed' Once I know where my audience is going to be, it would be easier for me to run the experiment during the night or suitable time for ease of viewing. At that point, only one person has to get up at daft o'clock..... :D
 

Phil Wainwright

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So, where are we today?

Well the main dc power supply has been shipped from the us
The 150 kHz - 450. MHz usb signal genny has left china
The 0-10 MHz USB signal genny has also left China.
The USB oscilloscope and data logger has left Belgium.
The 10kv transformer is here from a local manufacturer
The 35kv transformer has arrived from China
The Hi power high frequencies resonator has been dispatched from a UK company.
I pick up the coils tomorrow.

Got to make a cooling system and Also the control systems

Also build the cases and the supporting frame work.

Got to sort out the cameras

Got to write the software.

But getting closer... ..
:D
 

Phil Wainwright

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Resonator / oscillator here... just added a water cooled heatsink, could pulse upto 180 amp, but think I will be running no more than 50 for now...
6 kilo (12lbs) of assorted filament here for the printer
Just about to order a load of extruded aluminium to make a 'portable' ish frame to carry all the control gear for the experiment. I say portable, it will sit of the back seat of my car, and 1 man can lift it, but it will take 2 people to get it in and out of the car.....

But getting closer again :D
 

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