Part #16 mIRC; Alexanders chat logs for Feb. 24, 2004: Alexander was a friend of John Titor

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Part #16 mIRC; Alexanders chat logs for Feb. 24, 2004: Alexander was a friend of John Titor


mIRC Feb. 24, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Professor Opmmur
Session Start: February 23 & 24, 23:57, 2004
Session Time Travel Theory Forum



[23:57] * AlexanderTT has joined #AlexanderTTonline
[23:57] <SnowFireWatches> night paw
[23:57] <Jovial_Kitten> sue*
[23:57] <catman1> see ya
[23:57] <SnowFireWatches> sueelen
[23:57] <Jovial_Kitten> yeah!
[23:57] <Jovial_Kitten> hehe.
[23:57] <SnowFireWatches> sue ellen
[23:57] <catman1> oh oh giving away my secrets
[23:57] <SnowFireWatches> uh oh sorry
[23:57] <Jovial_Kitten> i miss that show
[23:57] <catman1> also my last name is LOVE
[23:57] <SKAtchison> Enjoy your evening of rest SnowFireWatches.

[23:57] <SnowFireWatches> i wont tell them your last name ok?
[23:57] <catman1> I just did
[23:58] <Jovial_Kitten> Dr. Love.
[23:58] <SnowFireWatches> haa haa haa
[23:58] <Jovial_Kitten> hee hee.
[23:58] <catman1> Dr.LOve
[23:58] <AlexanderTT> catman1, can I talk to you privately?
[23:58] <SnowFireWatches> i know where he lives too
[23:58] <SnowFireWatches> ohh
[23:58] <Jovial_Kitten> woah. i didn't even notice he showed up.
[23:58] * Jovial_Kitten sets mode: +v AlexanderTT
[23:58] <SnowFireWatches> sheesh i cant leave if alex is here
[23:58] <catman1> the name Love is Haight-Ashbury worked good!!
[23:58] <AlexanderTT> maybe I should have stayed quite then
[23:58] <catman1> IM at work with no Messenger
[23:58] * Jovial_Kitten grins.
[23:59] <SKAtchison> Good evening Alexander.
[23:59] <AlexanderTT> i mean in here, pm
[23:59] <AlexanderTT> hello SKAtchison, you cant sleep either I take it
[23:59] <Jovial_Kitten> catman irc has a messenger
[00:00] <SnowFireWatches> alex pm catman he doesnt know how to use it yet
[00:00] <SnowFireWatches> catman click the blinking alex at the top of your screen
[00:00] <Jovial_Kitten> hehe. i just pictured a faceless alex with a blinking body.
[00:00] <SnowFireWatches> haa haa haa
[00:01] <Jovial_Kitten> SKA,do you have alot of degrees then?
[00:01] * jondz has quit IRC (Quit: Client Exiting)
[00:01] <SKAtchison> I tend sleep over time, I always have, it worried my mother in my youth. I have no medical disfunction it is simply what I am comfortable with. My mother use to attribute my behavior to the number of cats her mother kept. An old wives tale I would guess.
[00:02] <SnowFireWatches> haa haa haa - one i never heard of
[00:03] <thanatos1> oh hello alexander
[00:03] <thanatos1> didnt see you there how are you
[00:04] <SnowFireWatches> ok im skitzing again - i change my mind- i simply must go to bed. I just cant hang!
[00:04] <AlexanderTT> i am ok, tired but ok
[00:04] <SnowFireWatches> god night again all
[00:04] <SnowFireWatches> and good night too
[00:04] * SnowFireWatches has left #alexanderttonline
[00:05] <exospire> man my computer is messed up, think i got a virus
[00:05] <SKAtchison> Minor degrees in psychology, mathmatics, economics, languages(In the area of linguistics), and many courses that interested me at the time. My father often wondered if I would settle into a direction. I would say I have not.
[00:07] <Jovial_Kitten> can I ask how your family is so well off?
[00:07] <SKAtchison> Perhaps I will begin with physics, this concept of time travel is interesting
[00:07] <Jovial_Kitten> I understand if its too personal..
[00:08] <exospire> nooo my system is shutting off in 30 seconds!
[00:09] <exospire> remote procedure call serivece terminated
[00:09] <exospire> 7 secs
[00:09] <AlexanderTT> t-minus...
[00:09] <exospire>

[00:09] <AlexanderTT> haa haa haa
[00:09] <exospire> 2
[00:09] <exospire> 1
[00:09] <AlexanderTT> sorry exospire
[00:09] <exospire> hmm
[00:09] * exospire has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[00:09] <SKAtchison> Investments into several sources from what I understand my great granfather had an eye(correct?) for what would make money.
[00:10] <AlexanderTT> i know what will make money in the market this year,

[00:10] <Jovial_Kitten> yes good:)
[00:10] <DWOMT> so do I Alex
[00:10] <DWOMT> tampons
[00:10] <DWOMT> they are the future
[00:10] <Jovial_Kitten> actually..
[00:10] * Opmmur sets mode: +o AlexanderTT
[00:10] * Looking up AlexanderTT user info...
[00:10] <DWOMT> now here's a question for Alex nobody has asked...
[00:11] <Jovial_Kitten> The keeper is a bit more popular lately.
[00:11] <AlexanderTT> im listening
[00:11] <DWOMT> do tampons still exist in 2039 Alex?
[00:11] <AlexanderTT> haa haa haa
[00:11] <AlexanderTT> i assume so, periods still exist, haa haa haa
[00:11] <DWOMT> YOUR A LIAR
[00:11] <DWOMT> haa haa haa just joking
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[00:11] <Jovial_Kitten> your period doesn't see them as a waste?
[00:11] <Jovial_Kitten> -a
[00:11] <exospire> bah im back
[00:11] <exospire> goona do a virus scan now
[00:12] <Jovial_Kitten> eh. let me rephrase that.
[00:12] <AlexanderTT> DWOMT, following KPAX logic??
[00:12] <Jovial_Kitten> Your time doesn't see tampons as a waste of the earths products?
[00:12] <DWOMT> that was the joke Alex
[00:12] <DWOMT> i'm not gonna turn all psycho on you
[00:12] <DWOMT> don't worry
[00:12] <Jovial_Kitten> better not DWOMT. I'll eat you.
[00:12] <DWOMT> ....
[00:13] <AlexanderTT> I think they are made differently Jovial_Kitten, but dont quote me on that, I have never used one, haa haa haa
[00:13] <Jovial_Kitten> I hope not alex;)
[00:13] <DWOMT> radioactive tampons
[00:13] <exospire> haha
[00:13] <Jovial_Kitten> because then we have a big problem on our hands. Alex the bicurious TT!
[00:13] <DWOMT> powered by a hydrogen fuel cell
[00:14] <Jovial_Kitten> i'm surprised they don't use http://www.thekeeperstore.com/?src=overtur...&OVMTC=standard <-- this in the future for periods.
[00:14] <exospire> <- doesnt know if he wants to click that
[00:15] <AlexanderTT> ewww!!
[00:15] <Jovial_Kitten> haha..sorry!
[00:15] <DWOMT> haa haa haa
[00:15] <AlexanderTT> dont click it!!
[00:15] <Jovial_Kitten> I didn't mean to freak you boys out.
[00:15] * Jovial_Kitten sets mode: +v AlexanderTT
[00:15] <exospire> ok....... just lost my appetite for the next 5 years
[00:16] * Jovial_Kitten giggles
[00:16] <SKAtchison> Ah .. a female discussion. :0
[00:16] <Jovial_Kitten> so. um.
[00:16] <Jovial_Kitten> BASKETBALL!
[00:16] <Jovial_Kitten> ah dang it.
[00:16] * Jovial_Kitten sets mode: +v exospire
[00:16] <Jovial_Kitten> stupid thing.
[00:17] <exospire> ;o
[00:17] <Opmmur> HI Alexander goog to see you here tonight
[00:18] <Opmmur> HI Alexander good to see you here tonight
[00:18] <SKAtchison> Alexander ... a question.
[00:18] <AlexanderTT> ask away
[00:18] <AlexanderTT> but I am readin gmy manual, I might be slow responding
[00:19] <AlexanderTT> Opmmur, did you enjoy seeing my equations?
[00:19] <SKAtchison> You stated you are familiar with John Titor. Is this in name or did youcome into physical contact?
[00:19] <exospire> type an entry from ur manual

[00:20] <Opmmur> Yes I did Thank You
[00:20] <AlexanderTT> SKAtchison, I believe the JT you know to be someone I knew at TR but this is yet to be proven
[00:20] <SKAtchison> TR?
[00:20] <AlexanderTT> Temporal Recon
[00:21] <SKAtchison> Time observation?
[00:21] <AlexanderTT> and Opmmur, you were correct about the way I travel, tampa was wrong, also his beleifs on back-tracking were wrong
[00:22] <SKAtchison> It would be correct to say that there is some form of centralization active in you time refrence?
[00:22] <AlexanderTT> yes SKAtchison
[00:22] <Opmmur> Who much over unity is your C404 working at best guess
[00:23] <AlexanderTT> please rephrase Opmmur, I didnt inderstand
[00:23] <AlexanderTT> maybe I am just tired
[00:24] <Opmmur> power in via power out 10 to 20+
[00:24] <AlexanderTT> do you wish to know how much power is used during a jump or how much it is using right now?
[00:25] <SKAtchison> I had thought from my reading that centralization was what lead to hostilities. Have you begun to move towards a form of centralization?
[00:25] <Opmmur> both please
[00:25] <AlexanderTT> SKAtchison, the people is the Government now
[00:27] <AlexanderTT> right now it is using less then 0.0000000etc....00001% of peak power, during a jump it uses 45% of peak power to create the microsingularities, then it normally runs at about 20% or less, however it can be increased safely, but we find no need to waste power
[00:27] <AlexanderTT> that is a basic summary
[00:28] <Opmmur> Ok power in via power out is called unity
 
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Opmmur

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mIRC Feb. 24, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Professor Opmmur
Session Start: February 23 & 24, 23:57, 2004
Session Time Travel Theory Forum



[00:30] <AlexanderTT> i wish to post a very important equation, however it will take me some time to make it, it is very long
[00:31] <Jovial_Kitten> we'll make sure it gets posted when you're done:)
[00:33] <AlexanderTT> ok i am going to make it now, feel free to keep talking I will be watching
[00:34] <Opmmur> Can gave us information on parallel universe Time Travel
[00:34] <thanatos1> er alexander did anyone figure out the removal of volume as was disscussed the other night?
[00:35] <AlexanderTT> yes, in fact like I said this equation is very important, however I do not believe you have it yet in your time, so my explanation will be little if any at all
[00:35] <AlexanderTT> i hope not thanatos1
[00:35] <Jovial_Kitten> Does anyone else here have website space they can use to upload alex's pic if I'm not here?
[00:36] <Opmmur> Yes I can
[00:36] <Jovial_Kitten> ok good
[00:36] <Jovial_Kitten> madice should be waking up soon but i just wanted to make sure we had a second backup
[00:36] <thanatos1> well i'm thinking about it alex, unfortunately my grounding in phsics is not so sound

[00:39] <SKAtchison> You are using and Einstein Rosen bridge?
[00:43] * zpider has joined #alexanderttonline
[00:43] <zpider> Hey all
[00:43] <Opmmur> an you please comment on KPAX's statement
[00:43] <Opmmur> The theory which has to be applied here (according to JT) is supposed to be based on the Everett-Wheeler model and is not magic which moves or passes through the walls of dimensional time.
[00:44] <Opmmur> the Everett-Wheeler model
[00:44] * Opmmur sets mode: +v zpider
[00:45] <Opmmur> Can gave us information on parallel universe Time Travel also?
[00:49] <zpider> Hmmm
[00:49] <zpider> Anyone alive here?
[00:49] <exospire> yea
[00:50] <AlexanderTT> Opmmur, everett-wheeler model has evolved, he was using that as a point of reference for everybody
[00:50] <exospire> i hope we all are
[00:50] <zpider> haa haa haa
[00:50] <AlexanderTT> the equation is ready to send
[00:50] <SKAtchison> Everett-Wheeler-Graham
[00:50] <zpider> Who was graham?
[00:51] <AlexanderTT> the equation is ready , who do I send it too?
[00:51] <zpider> I'd be interested
[00:52] <Jovial_Kitten> me alex
[00:52] <Jovial_Kitten> ill get it hosted
[00:52] <Jovial_Kitten> and link it
[00:52] <Opmmur> Alexander you can sent pictures or information to professor@opmmur.com and I will post it on both forums
[00:53] <thanatos1> when thats people i want a link !!!!!

[00:53] <thanatos1> up
[00:53] <AlexanderTT> well, Opmmur, maybe sometime but for right now, I wish to post them for my friends here, and I guess the forum is ok also
[00:54] <thanatos1> maths is not my forte i hope its not too complicated
[00:54] <AlexanderTT> it is thanatos1
[00:54] <AlexanderTT> sorry
[00:54] <Jovial_Kitten> http://bellsouthpwp2.net/c/a/cassandramkoenig/post12.JPG
[00:54] <AlexanderTT> I have the break-down of it but I do not wish to give
[00:54] <thanatos1> ok fair enough i will defer to the more mathamatically minded people here
[00:55] <exospire> whoa, that's a lot of letters and numbers

[00:55] <thanatos1> er my head hurts
[00:55] <AlexanderTT> i will give some info on it, ....
[00:56] <thanatos1> alex is it permitted for me to give this to an astrophysicist i know a few in an astromomy channel i post in?
[00:56] <AlexanderTT> feel free, if they claim to have seen it then I will explain it, if not, I will not
[00:57] <AlexanderTT> this is a graphical simulation of our quantom phoam theory
[00:58] * Jovial_Kitten changes topic to 'AlexanderTT's new Podium - " You are all invited to #TemporalReconOutpost " 2/22/04 New drawings from Alex: http://invisionfree.com/forums/Time_Travel...ost&p=8046'
[00:58] <Jovial_Kitten> yay!
[00:58] <zpider> Ok alex
[00:58] <AlexanderTT> this explains that the singularity (or multiples) can exists without volume, and hence, they can exist in the same space, this also gives the foundation for the harmonic resonance of the gravity signature created by the VGL, IF I understand it correctly
[00:59] <Jovial_Kitten> Ok,goodnight guys:) Behave and don't fight
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[00:59] <zpider> Alex, I will be showing this to my friend tomorrow
[00:59] <zpider> He should be able to make sense of it
 

Opmmur

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mIRC Feb. 24, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Professor Opmmur
Session Start: February 23 & 24, 23:57, 2004
Session Time Travel Theory Forum



[01:00] <SKAtchison> Quantum mechanics/
[01:00] <AlexanderTT> I look forward to his opinion on it zpider
[01:00] <zpider> Ok
[01:00] <AlexanderTT> yes SKAtchison, I havent gotten to the good stuff yet
[01:01] <AlexanderTT> however I want to lay the basics of singularities first
[01:01] <zpider> Alex, I've printed the image. Is there anything else you could give me to write on the paper?
[01:02] <AlexanderTT> I do not feel so at this time, however I might post another for you
[01:02] <zpider> Ok
[01:02] <SKAtchison> Quantum fluctuations between dimension can cause the disfunction of mechanical devices withing dimensions that on the quantum level are not similiar
[01:02] <AlexanderTT> do you think anyone would consider this proof and stop badgering me?
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[01:03] * Opmmur sets mode: +v zpider
[01:03] * Opmmur sets mode: +v algol_aida
[01:03] <exospire> maybe it will keep some busy for a couple days, alex

[01:03] <AlexanderTT> hopefully they solve it and get there "proof"
[01:03] <zpider> Hmmm
[01:04] <AlexanderTT> I do not know if you know of this equation in your time, however I have seen it before in my time
[01:05] <zpider> This equation explains that although micro singularities can exist in the same place, they each have a specific signature?
[01:05] <AlexanderTT> my manual says that its origins came from the Quantom Foam theory, now revised and call phoam
[01:05] <zpider> Ok
[01:06] <AlexanderTT> of course obviously it is no longer a theory to us but a working model
[01:06] <zpider> Of course
[01:06] <SKAtchison> I would assume that only a certain level of deviation is allowable as a mjor change would render the devices in question inoprable.
[01:06] <AlexanderTT> i really want to post me whole manual now to get an interesting conversation going, but I still fear for my security
[01:07] <AlexanderTT> yes SKAtchison, if I understand you correctly
[01:07] <Opmmur> are we talking about the equations posted
[01:07] <zpider> Alex, why do you fear for your security if you post your manual?
[01:08] <AlexanderTT> if i am proved true then how much do you think I or my C404 is worth to your civilization?
[01:08] <SKAtchison> Any change on the quantom level would alter its concept and function and render and mechanical device unusable
[01:08] <AlexanderTT> enough to kill over?
[01:08] <SKAtchison> Simply put you would be forever trapped
[01:09] <zpider> Of course not
[01:09] <zpider> We cannot change 'our' past
[01:09] <zpider> Only the past of other wordlines
[01:09] <AlexanderTT> of course so zpider, just think of all the people who would want the C404 as a weapon
[01:09] <Opmmur> Zpider yes we can
[01:09] <zpider> How opmmur?
[01:10] <AlexanderTT> joint effort remember zpider
[01:10] <Opmmur> another time then now
[01:10] <MadIce> If I publish the reference manual of a Pentium processor in 1970 then people wouldn't be able to produce it.
[01:10] <zpider> Ah, other worldines coming to us?
[01:11] <zpider> There is always someone that will abuse something
[01:11] <AlexanderTT> this is true MadIce, bu tI have a working model already made
[01:11] <AlexanderTT> this is what they would come for and kill for
[01:11] <zpider> Yes
[01:11] <AlexanderTT> kill me and others to have it
[01:12] <SKAtchison> One would assume that Alexanders time reference could be entered if the proper resonance reference could be assertained. Within his person would be contained the quantum frequency of his entire time reference.
[01:12] <AlexanderTT> so for now call me fiction, I do not mind as long as you are not personal
[01:12] <zpider> But alex
[01:12] <zpider> John said you needed a code to operate the VGL
[01:12] <zpider> So, if anyone even aquired a machine, they couldn't use it
[01:12] <zpider> Correct?
[01:13] <AlexanderTT> yes, it would be very unlikely that they could actually use it, I dont use a code, it detects my body heat and recognizes me, however the possibility always exsist, and the could accidentally blow thenselves up or worse
[01:14] <MadIce> Worse?
[01:14] <AlexanderTT> yes much worse
[01:14] <exospire> how does it detect 'your' body heat
[01:14] <AlexanderTT> if the C404 unit was run without the VGL , well lets just say, good bye
[01:15] <AlexanderTT> howver there are many safe guards to prevent this, but there is always a possibility
[01:15] <SKAtchison> All that would be required is documentation of his specific frequency then the development of such a device on another frequency,for example this one. Enter Alexanders timerefrenced past, then simply make alterations in that way affecting this past from a future reference
[01:15] <Opmmur> the VGL is??
[01:16] <SKAtchison> Simply put one could affect our past by affecting his.
[01:16] <AlexanderTT> the VGL in simple terms is the computer that makes the calculations neccassary to safely jump, also it enables you to remain constant in the 3d world, as in arrive in the same place you left
[01:16] <AlexanderTT> it also controls the frequency of the microsingularities
[01:17] <AlexanderTT> your computers can not even come close to making the calculations neccassary for this
[01:17] <AlexanderTT> i mean no offense by that, it is just a fact
[01:17] <zpider> Our computers are like calculators to your machine?
[01:18] <AlexanderTT> your computers are like wrist watches to JUST my GPS
[01:18] <AlexanderTT> is that really so hard to believe?
[01:18] <zpider> No
[01:18] <AlexanderTT> some think it is
[01:18] <zpider> Look at ENIAC
[01:18] <zpider> Look at our computers today
[01:18] <zpider> ENIAC ran on valves and relays
[01:18] <zpider> It took hours to program a simple instruction
[01:18] <AlexanderTT> like the ones that filled rooms?
[01:19] <zpider> Yes!
[01:19] <zpider> That's the one
[01:19] <zpider> Our modern day computers run millions upon millions of calculations a second
[01:19] <AlexanderTT> our makes calcualations at the same time, if I understand the tech correctly
[01:19] <SKAtchison> Alexandar is it correct that you are already born in this time reference?
[01:20] <AlexanderTT> yes, he is here now
[01:20] <AlexanderTT> asleep as usuall
[01:20] <AlexanderTT> he is very young
[01:20] <zpider> So, you are living with your parents as John did?
[01:20] <AlexanderTT> that is the best way zpider
[01:20] <SKAtchison> That would put both John titor and yourself in your early to middle 40's is this correct?
[01:20] <AlexanderTT> i am 39
[01:21] <zpider> How did you manage to convince them you were a time traveller?
[01:21] <AlexanderTT> i didnt at first, I convinced them I was there son, TT would have been to much for them at first
[01:21] <zpider> So, did you prove you were their son from what you knew?
[01:21] <exospire> hmm...
[01:22] <MadIce> Because there is no real jump don't you agree that while the C404 is travelling that the machine would leave a trail of worldlines? Doesn't that make navigation nearly impossible?
[01:22] <exospire> what did they think when you convinced them u were their son
[01:22] <AlexanderTT> no more along the lines of personal items, and I look like an older version of myself obviously
[01:22] <SKAtchison> you are 4 in this time reference
[01:22] <zpider> 1
[01:23] <AlexanderTT> I do not know of a trail of worldlines MadIce, that would imply that I travel through them like a medium
[01:23] <AlexanderTT> I dont, I am in the black untill arrival of destination
[01:23] <zpider> But
[01:23] <zpider> The black hole moves
[01:23] <zpider> So, it must pass through something
[01:23] <MadIce> Yes. You stay on Eartg. The VGL corrects its possition.
[01:24] <AlexanderTT> no it fluctuates, a harmonic frequency, I "broadcast" the signal of where I want to go, that is the easiest way I know to explain it
[01:24] <zpider> Ok
[01:24] * SKAtchison has left #alexanderttonline
[01:24] <AlexanderTT> yes you are correct MadIce
[01:24] <AlexanderTT> the VGL makes constant adjustments during a jumo
[01:25] <AlexanderTT> keeping me in place so-to-speak
[01:25] <MadIce> Hence.... the trail of worldlines.
[01:25] <AlexanderTT> if that happened I think it would be dis-heartening to us to TT
[01:25] <MadIce> Inded
[01:25] <MadIce> Indeed
[01:25] <MadIce> How is that prevented?
[01:25] <AlexanderTT> I have never heard of that happening, although I am not a specialist
[01:26] <AlexanderTT> I am in a 4d state only while traveling if I understand correctly, I do not make or desturb 3d space
[01:27] <AlexanderTT> doing so would leave a trail, as you call it
[01:27] <zpider> I understand!
[01:27] <MadIce> If you travel for a given period why would the worldline split only at the end of the journey? It is no jump.
[01:28] <zpider> Because that is when he arrives
[01:28] <zpider> Up until then the worldline is no different
[01:28] <zpider> He hasn't 'arrived' yet so to speak?
[01:28] <MadIce> zspi: Please let Alex answer
[01:29] <AlexanderTT> MadIce, worldlines splitting is a constant that can be calculated, as I said before I dont believe my traveling has any effect on it, except maybe my pressence in the destination will cause a split, one with me and one without
 

Opmmur

Time Travel Professor
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mIRC Feb. 24, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Professor Opmmur
Session Start: February 23 & 24, 23:57, 2004
Session Time Travel Theory Forum



[01:30] <AlexanderTT> i am still trying my best to learn this, and I must say, the manual is quite over-whelming at times, but I will try my best to answer
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[01:30] <zpider> sorry madice
[01:30] <MadIce> zpider: No problem

[01:30] <AlexanderTT> we are all friends here zpider,

[01:30] <AlexanderTT> at least I hope
[01:30] <zpider> Of course :>
[01:31] <DWOMT> Alex..so is anything possible with Worldlines?
[01:31] <zpider> I was wondering that
[01:31] <AlexanderTT> yes anything according to current mathmatical theory (current as in my home)
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[01:32] <zpider> Would the rules of physics be written a different way in other worldlines?
[01:32] <Thelper> hi all
[01:32] <DWOMT> ok here's a silly question..but it's a good one
[01:32] <zpider> And would these theories still work?
[01:32] <thanatos1> hello thelp
[01:32] <DWOMT> could DBZ characters be real people in another worldline
[01:32] <DWOMT> ?
[01:32] <AlexanderTT> i suppose it is possible, but isnt mathmatics the universe--al language?
[01:32] <Thelper> zpider some worldlines wouldnt even have physics
[01:32] <MadIce> It still keeps puzzling me. It makes no sense. The splitting of worldlines is fine. Very handy. I understand that if it was a jump. But it is not. One of the mysteries.
[01:32] <Thelper> some might not discovered it thou
[01:32] <zpider> I see alex
[01:32] <Thelper> or named it something else
[01:32] <AlexanderTT> jump is just the term we use MadIce
[01:33] <MadIce> Yes. I know.
[01:33] <AlexanderTT> it is possible DWOMT, like I said anything is possible
[01:33] <MadIce> I keep avoiding the term.
[01:33] <Thelper> when is you next window alex?
[01:33] <Thelper> when are u due back/
[01:33] <Thelper> ?
[01:33] <AlexanderTT> it does seem to be the wrong term for the situation, it sounds more to me like a "shift" then a "jump"
[01:33] <MadIce> Most people think of it as a jump. I don't

[01:34] <MadIce> Thelper: Good question!
[01:34] <MadIce> Tells us more about why there are "windows", Alex?
[01:34] <AlexanderTT> i will not give exact window, however I am due back at seconds after I left
[01:35] <Thelper> didnt ask for exact asked which yr your leaving in
[01:35] <Thelper> john left 2001 no?
[01:35] <Thelper> when did u arrive just after him?
[01:35] <Thelper> or 2004
[01:35] <Thelper> when u first posted?
[01:36] <AlexanderTT> the VGL must be able to calculate the needed gravitaional frequency , this frequency is constantly changing everywhere, it takes readings and calculates or actually makes a "guess" at the frequency this is why it is not an excat form of travel yet, if the VGL makes a wrong guess I could be anywhere, this is why we try to make jumps with similar frequencies that were present at arrival
[01:36] <hellrazor666> AlexanderTT u got the location/name of satalitte ur gps uses yet /
[01:36] <hellrazor666> ?
[01:37] <AlexanderTT> oh I'm sorry hellrazor666, I havent gotten it back yet
[01:37] <hellrazor666> k
[01:37] <DWOMT> i'm not really a physics guy..but are you able to go to any Worldline of your choosing Alex?
[01:37] <AlexanderTT> but I promise I will
[01:37] <Thelper> alexd areu leaving this yr or next?
[01:37] <Thelper> or staying dfor war?
[01:37] <MadIce> Similar frequences? Compare to what. Sorry. I don't understand the answer.
[01:37] <AlexanderTT> no DWOMT, we try to get as close as we can to the worldline we want to go to
[01:37] <DWOMT> darn
[01:37] <zpider> Heh
[01:38] <zpider> You want DBZ :>
[01:38] <DWOMT> yes..haa haa haa
[01:38] <zpider> haa haa haa
[01:38] <Thelper> bu dwont they could but
[01:38] <DWOMT> I would love to leave this world for the DBZ one
[01:38] <hellrazor666> AlexanderTT do u know anyone in this time u knew before u cameback ?
[01:38] <zpider> But DWOMT
[01:38] <zpider> It's possible here
[01:38] <Thelper> means cuz they dont know how they be stuck
[01:38] <hellrazor666> like someone u stay with
[01:38] <zpider> Never heard of psi, tk etc?
[01:38] <Thelper> I know of it
[01:38] <DWOMT> me too
[01:38] <Thelper> its in infinceny here no?
[01:38] <Thelper> some ppl have discovered how to unlock it
[01:39] <zpider> I'm working on it
[01:39] <DWOMT> Bruce Lee did
[01:39] <Thelper> cryokinesis
[01:39] <Thelper> etc?
[01:39] <DWOMT> can you shoot energy blasts zpider?
[01:39] <AlexanderTT> MadIce, gravity itself fluctuates, you even know this, position of the moon sun etc.. all has factors in it, but we can also read a frequency in gravity like tuning into a radio station, we need to be able to tune into it, and conditions must be right in order to get the right station, does this make sense?
[01:39] * MadIce sets mode: +v Thelper
[01:39] <Thelper> psi energy balls?
[01:39] <zpider> I can create psi balls
[01:39] <hellrazor666> AlexanderTT do u know anyone in this time u knew before u cameback ?
[01:39] <DWOMT> you'll be useful in the war zpider..haa haa haa
[01:39] <zpider> I've never tried programming them todo damage
[01:39] <Thelper> yes alex
[01:39] <Thelper> but when u leaving this yr or 2005?
[01:39] <zpider> :>
[01:39] <zpider> DWOMT gave zpider an idea :>
[01:39] <Thelper> or no leaving?
[01:39] <AlexanderTT> my family hellrazor666
[01:40] <hellrazor666> ah ic
[01:40] <DWOMT> where are you located zpider?
[01:40] <AlexanderTT> i leave in 2005 thelper
[01:40] <hellrazor666> wouldnt knowing ur family now mess up ur future
[01:40] <Thelper> how strong are you psi balls
[01:40] <hellrazor666> and are u living with ur family at the moment
[01:40] <Thelper> zpier?
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[01:40] <Thelper> zpider
[01:40] <AlexanderTT> no, because I am not on my worldline, and I will never truly see me true home again
[01:40] <DWOMT> you should take your family with you Alex..spare them what is coming
[01:40] <Thelper> can u knock things over from distance yet?
[01:41] <zpider> I haven't tried to be honest
[01:41] <hellrazor666> ic
[01:41] <zpider> I'm amused by making different coloured ones from different sources atm
[01:41] <Thelper> u create visable ones?
[01:41] <AlexanderTT> but it can change my future so little I dont notice, this is why we try to stay as close as possible to destination worldline
[01:41] <zpider> Yes
[01:41] <Thelper> nice how long u been learning
[01:41] <hellrazor666> so when ur gone ur computer will no longer be on the internet ?
[01:41] <Thelper> u do know u can tranform them in fireballs
[01:41] <MadIce> I am thinking about the ense, Alex. Thanks for answering.
[01:41] <Thelper> heated
[01:41] <zpider> Yes I know!
[01:41] <MadIce> I am thinking about the sense, Alex. Thanks for answering.
[01:41] <zpider> I've always been interested in this stuff
[01:41] <Thelper> ppl think u nuts right
[01:42] <zpider> Yes1
[01:42] <AlexanderTT> no this computer is from this time, haa haa haa
[01:42] <Thelper> u tell them u have a form of magick
[01:42] <zpider> It makes me so sad
[01:42] <Thelper> they think u bsing
[01:42] <AlexanderTT> anytime MadIce
[01:42] <Thelper> they blind
[01:42] <zpider> I can ask someone to think of a number
[01:42] <zpider> And I can guess it
[01:42] <Thelper> acient times know of it
[01:42] <Thelper> nice
[01:42] <DWOMT> do you find our time tempting to stay in Alex?
[01:42] <Thelper> how long u been practising your abilitys
[01:42] <zpider> Do you find it frustrating as well?
[01:42] <Thelper> yes
[01:42] <hellrazor666> AlexanderTT if ur computer is from this timeline then when u go back it will no longer be used by u
[01:42] <zpider> All my life
[01:42] <AlexanderTT> yes DWOMT
[01:42] <Thelper> ppl dont believe me when tell them human being can split atoms with there mind
[01:42] <AlexanderTT> i do everyday
[01:42] <Thelper> themselfs
[01:43] <DWOMT> what makes it so tempting?
[01:43] <hellrazor666> and if ur saying its from this time it indicating to me tht u living with ur past self or know tht ur past self is there aswell
[01:43] <AlexanderTT> that is correct hellrazor666
[01:43] <zpider> Aparently I have healing abilities, or so my family says. I can make pain go away and even heal 'injuries' to an extant
[01:43] <hellrazor666> witch is impossible without paradoxs
[01:43] <hellrazor666> witch u said didnt exist
[01:43] <Thelper> green aura
[01:43] <Thelper> do u have aura vision
[01:43] <Thelper> zpider have u traveld astral?
[01:43] <AlexanderTT> where is the paradox hellrazor666?
[01:43] <zpider> I've seen a few aurus
[01:44] <DWOMT> i kinda have abilities too zpider..i dream of the future..and i can mentally sense when weather is gonna change
[01:44] <AlexanderTT> are you thinking of the killing my grandfather paradox?
[01:44] <hellrazor666> u being able to effect physical plane and indicating tht ur past self will be using web when u gone
[01:44] <hellrazor666> if tht the case then ur effect on this world would effect ur past self
[01:44] <hellrazor666> right ?
[01:44] <zpider> Yes, I can do that too
[01:44] <AlexanderTT> i dont understand the question hellrazor666
[01:45] <hellrazor666> well when u leave the u tht is left here will he be using the web ?
[01:45] <DWOMT> you always mention how you like us all Alex..i'm curious though.....are you told not to get attached before you make a jump?
[01:45] <hellrazor666> on ur pc u using at the moment ?
[01:45] <AlexanderTT> yes but not this computer
[01:45] <hellrazor666> ic
[01:45] <AlexanderTT> yes DWOMT, we are warned
[01:45] <DWOMT> you seemed to be attached then my friend
[01:46] <AlexanderTT> oh well, its the human condition I guess
[01:46] <DWOMT> haa haa haa true
[01:46] <DWOMT> your a cool guy..i like you
[01:46] <AlexanderTT> darn emotions, haa haa haa
[01:46] <Guui> OK back home again
[01:46] <Guui> Just one class today. :]
[01:46] <hellrazor666> AlexanderTT how can u from future and u from past be in same place at same time without creating a paradox especialy when u are physical
[01:47] <DWOMT> I'm still skeptical on your future descriptions Alex..but i will call you a friend
[01:47] <AlexanderTT> hellrazor666, you dont understand, it is not truly two "me's" it is two different "me's"
[01:47] <hellrazor666> so how would ur past self know of the future
[01:47] <AlexanderTT> if it helps DWOMT, I hope your worldline does not have the war
[01:48] <DWOMT> me too
[01:48] <DWOMT> but a part of me feels that society needs a change...some people are just down right greedy now
[01:48] <zpider> Yes
[01:48] <AlexanderTT> he thinks I am a relative I think, is that what you are asking?
[01:48] <hellrazor666> and AlexanderTT have u got a static ip ?
[01:48] <AlexanderTT> yes true DWOMT, the change is needed
[01:48] <AlexanderTT> i dont know
[01:49] <AlexanderTT> why is it always the same?
[01:49] <Guui> Yeah but the war would mean mutations.

[01:49] <DWOMT> ever since I was little i have sensed a change coming..but i could never pinpoint what it would be..then Titor came along and a part of me wonders if that is the event i have sensed my entire life
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[01:49] <AlexanderTT> maybe you could change without war, Guui
[01:49] <zpider> Yes
[01:49] <zpider> I feel exactly like you DWOMT
[01:49] <catman1> computer crash now over
[01:49] <DWOMT> something is coming zpider..i just don't know what
[01:49] <Thelper> alexander that isnt possible
[01:50] <hellrazor666> AlexanderTT if ur ip dosnt change then when u leave ur pc will no longer be on for it to send a ping back right ?
[01:50] <AlexanderTT> most of you do "feel it" and I expected that
[01:50] <Thelper> the war is only way this world would change
[01:50] <Guui> I don't think so Alex. Knowing the history of man, we aren't that bright as we think we are.
[01:50] <Guui> as bright as we... etc*
[01:50] <AlexanderTT> dont know hellrazor666
[01:50] <MadIce> John Titor spoke of windows. It was supposed to be a time in which it was the best time to make a "jump".
[01:50] <AlexanderTT> i dont know if its static either
[01:50] <MadIce> How does that work?
[01:50] <hellrazor666> haa haa haa well are u living with anyone at the moment
[01:50] <DWOMT> i think a nuclear war would change people drastically
[01:50] <AlexanderTT> yes MadIce, I have three
[01:50] <hellrazor666> and uve said ur past u will be on diffrent ip so indicating he not living with u haa haa haa
[01:50] <AlexanderTT> I will take my first
[01:50] * Opmmur sets mode: +o catman1
[01:51] * Opmmur sets mode: -o catman1
[01:51] * Opmmur sets mode: +v catman1
[01:51] <AlexanderTT> these are times when the gravity signiture or "station" can be picked up and calculated
[01:51] <MadIce> Power to catman1!
[01:52] <MadIce> How does one predict these or calculate them?
[01:53] <catman1> whats giving me power
[01:53] <AlexanderTT> the VGL knows before the jump is even made, it sortof rewinds time, in its claculations, like the positions of the moon et... and it calculates when the frequencies are available to read
[01:53] <MadIce> catman1: For a fraction of a second Opmmur made you a moderator

[01:54] <zpider> sorry if i didnt respond dwomt, talking to thelper
[01:54] <DWOMT> it's cool
[01:54] <AlexanderTT> wait I am moderator!, neat
[01:54] <AlexanderTT> didnt notice
[01:54] <catman1> cool now all I need to know is how to be one!!
[01:55] <AlexanderTT> i wonder if KPAX got even more mad, when I didnt ban him or run away like he said I would that day he came in here ?!?
[01:55] <DWOMT> KPAX..i thought you had others with you from your time guarding you?
[01:55] <DWOMT> i mean Alex..haa haa haa
[01:56] * DWOMT had KPAX on the brain there for a moment
[01:56] <AlexanderTT> no not really, me and 9 are to stay in contact for the rest of our stay here, due to certain events that happned, but I am really on my own
[01:57] <AlexanderTT> not to worry though I am equipped to defend myself and others
[01:57] <DWOMT> well your a soldier...i'm sure you know how to defend
[01:57] <AlexanderTT> that I do DWOMT
[01:57] <AlexanderTT> I will at least give them a fight to not so easily forget
[01:58] <AlexanderTT> if I am tracke down that is
[01:58] <DWOMT> i worry that if yours and Titors predictions come true..anyone's IP who has read both stories will be hunted down
[01:59] <AlexanderTT> I worry of that two DWOMT, whichis why I do not care if I am called fiction
[01:59] <catman1> Alex computer crashed while we were private ...Im not sure if we were done talking or not???
[01:59] <AlexanderTT> well it is up to you catman1
[01:59] <AlexanderTT> I said what I wanted to say, just wanted your opinion
[01:59] <catman1> ok I may have a couple of questions still!
 

Opmmur

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mIRC Feb. 24, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Professor Opmmur
Session Start: February 23 & 24, 23:57, 2004
Session Time Travel Theory Forum



[02:00] <AlexanderTT> go ahead I am listening
[02:01] <AlexanderTT> wow, its 4 already
[02:01] <DWOMT> do any of todays politicians survive the war Alex?
[02:01] <AlexanderTT> is lack of sleep a serious danger to your health?
[02:01] <DWOMT> nah just an adjustment
[02:01] <AlexanderTT> nope, simply put
[02:01] <DWOMT> i read the other day how Washington DC is becoming a fortress almost..because of all the terrorist precautions
[02:02] <AlexanderTT> those that did were assasinated, not my descision we were just very angry at the time as a whole
[02:03] <zpider> Your body needs REM sleep, because your mind produces chemcials in that state
[02:03] <zpider> REM is basically 'deep sleep'
[02:03] <AlexanderTT> dreaming right?
[02:03] <MadIce> If you don't sleep for 3 months then chances are you will die. Even people with sleeping disorders sleep from time to time.
[02:04] <AlexanderTT> well I do sleep, just not very often and not very long, supposedly the dietary suplement causes this, but I worry about my health because I fell really bad, but yet when I lay down it is usually hopeless
[02:05] <zpider> I'd find it hard to sleep if I was a time traveller from the future
[02:05] <zpider> You could try some herbal remedies
[02:05] <zpider> They helped me when I had insomnia
[02:05] <AlexanderTT> ues that is also a factor zpider, i am like a child in a candy store, haa haa haa
[02:06] <zpider> haa haa haa
[02:06] <thanatos1> count sheep,, baaaaaa1 baaaaaaaa2

[02:06] <MadIce> Isn't it any different from a jetlag?
[02:06] <Thelper> when you sleep energy enters you
[02:06] <AlexanderTT> jetlag? when traveling to new time xones?
[02:06] <Thelper> revitalizing your body
[02:06] <thanatos1> if you are in new zealand do not attempt that!!!!
[02:06] <Thelper> you astral body leaves while you physical body is charged
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[02:06] <Thelper> you just dont know this
[02:07] <Thelper> as your coniousness isnt with you astral travel is learning to bring your coniousness into your sleep with you
[02:07] <AlexanderTT> i dont know about that thelper
[02:07] <MadIce> Remember mr Bean counting sheep by using a picture? He counted the rows and columns and multiplied them and fell asleep

[02:07] <Thelper> most ppl cant remember most dreams right
[02:07] <thanatos1> haa haa haa yes madice
[02:08] <thanatos1> i was thinkng the very thing

[02:08] <AlexanderTT> mr bean?
[02:08] <MadIce> Comedian
[02:08] <thanatos1> a comedy character in the UK
[02:08] <AlexanderTT> like stand up?
[02:08] <thanatos1> nope not really
[02:08] <thanatos1> more sitcom
[02:08] <thanatos1> verry funny guy
[02:09] <DWOMT> Mr Bean is hilarious
[02:09] <AlexanderTT> sitcom? you mean a series of shows?
[02:09] <DWOMT> episodes
[02:09] <thanatos1> yes
[02:09] <AlexanderTT> oh
[02:09] <thanatos1> look it up it will amuse you

[02:09] <AlexanderTT> charlie chaplin is still funny in 2039
[02:09] <Thelper> Alex put your body to sleep by telling self that your feet, legs, pelvise, stomach, back, shoulders, arms, hands, neck, face, head and finally mind are losing tension like a leaking bath this will make your body go to sleep you might feel wierd feeling but it will relax you enough to sleep, this also is technique to use for astral projection but you can use this to sleep deeply
[02:09] <Thelper> start at bottom work up
[02:10] <zpider> Yes
[02:10] <zpider> Lucuid dreaming
[02:10] <zpider> In which you are able to seperate your astral body from your physical body
[02:10] <DWOMT> http://www.angelfire.com/il/tejbuch/bean.html
[02:10] <thanatos1> you should start a psychic channel guys,, i thought this was for our tt audiance

[02:10] <zpider> haa haa haa
[02:10] <zpider> I was thinking that too
[02:11] <thanatos1> no offence but er if i could astraly project,, lookout elle mcpherson :)~~~
[02:12] <AlexanderTT> so thelper, you believe in telekinesis?
[02:12] <thanatos1> but that wont work for me,, i think my karma ran over my dogma

[02:12] <Thelper> alexander yes
[02:13] <Thelper> its fact
[02:13] * MadIce is astrally project breakfast
[02:13] * MadIce is astrally projecting breakfast
[02:13] <thanatos1> haa haa haa watch the MILK!!!!!
[02:13] <thanatos1>

[02:13] <AlexanderTT> and if it is fact and what you say is true, could I move objects with my mind?
[02:13] <AlexanderTT> can you move objects with your mind?
[02:14] <AlexanderTT> breakfast sounds so good to me right now, haa haa haa
[02:14] <Thelper> Alexander yes
[02:14] <Thelper> I could even teach you
[02:14] <Thelper> if you realyl wanted
[02:14] <AlexanderTT> and how long would it take to learn to move objects with my mind?
[02:14] <thanatos1> alex i am hoping that the future is a little more rational on these subjects

[02:14] <Thelper> hmm depends mayebe months
[02:14] <Thelper> could be a yr
[02:15] <DWOMT> i have an idea
[02:15] <AlexanderTT> well, we are always open to possibilities, I am just curious thanatos1, I mean for god's sake, I traveled time, haa haa haa
[02:15] <thanatos1>
hehe
[02:15] <DWOMT> thelper can train us all to be mind powered, super saiyan warriors
[02:15] <Thelper> you start of slow thou not like gonna be able call coins to hand at first it be more like making a piece paper spin or rolling pens etc
[02:15] <DWOMT> then we'll all be ready for the war
[02:15] <DWOMT> and make the changes
[02:15] <thanatos1> i find that more belivable than somethings , but to each there own
[02:15] <Thelper> dwomt that is indeed possible
[02:15] <Thelper> not to that extent but
[02:15] <Thelper> creating force fields
[02:15] <Thelper> is possible by psi
[02:16] <AlexanderTT> thelper I would SERIOUSLY enjoy moving even the smallest objects with my mind, if it is possible
[02:16] <DWOMT> teach me a KameKameha wave..and i will win the war
[02:16] <Thelper> zpider already can do this
[02:16] <zpider> Yes
[02:16] <thanatos1> i hope your mother doesnt let you near the spoons!!!
[02:16] <Thelper> if dont believe me many ppl this time have learny
[02:16] <Thelper> cyber can also create psi energy balls
[02:16] <zpider> Alexander, I think you would love to be avle to create psi balls
[02:16] <AlexanderTT> psi energy balls?
[02:16] <zpider> Yes
[02:16] <AlexanderTT> i'll bite, go on
[02:16] <zpider> Balls of energy!
[02:17] <zpider> Formed where you want it
[02:17] <thanatos1> not the sexual kind mind
[02:17] <AlexanderTT> how do I do this, how do I learn to control my mind like that?
[02:17] <thanatos1>

[02:17] <zpider> Ready to be 'programmed'
[02:17] <Thelper> can even be used as force of punch
[02:17] <Thelper> alex
[02:17] <zpider> Yes
[02:17] <Thelper> I have a video ill show u
[02:17] <Thelper> this is real
[02:17] <zpider> Alex
[02:17] <zpider> Everyone can do this
[02:17] <zpider> You just need to realize it
[02:17] <AlexanderTT> show the video
[02:17] <thanatos1> got get the million dollars guys
[02:18] <zpider> Would you seriously like to learn Alex
[02:18] <thanatos1> http://www.randi.org
[02:18] <Thelper> get on yahoo
[02:18] <Thelper> this isnt working
[02:19] <AlexanderTT> haha! sylcia brown was proved a luaghing stock
[02:19] <AlexanderTT> sylvia*
[02:19] <thanatos1> indeed
[02:19] <thanatos1>

[02:19] <thanatos1> an intelligent man james randi
[02:19] <thanatos1> you will find that web site an interesting read
[02:20] <AlexanderTT> you know Thelper, my religion says that psychics are just decievers like magicians
[02:20] <Thelper> they wrong
[02:20] <zpider> Decievers of what
[02:20] <Thelper> it natrual
[02:21] <Thelper> we have the abilitysd
[02:21] <algol_aida> to spell not right
[02:21] <Thelper> in our reach just we dont beleive and dont bother to learn it
[02:21] <zpider> Yes
[02:21] <hellrazor666> AlexanderTT how are are u
[02:21] <hellrazor666> old*
[02:21] <zpider> Alex, people should be judged by their actions, not of who they are
[02:21] <hellrazor666> dam typos haa haa haa
[02:21] <zpider> Most psychics wish to help people
[02:22] <zpider> Not harm them
[02:22] <thanatos1> many like to decieve as well thelper
[02:22] <AlexanderTT> i understand that zpider, I am not judging you I am just stating what my God said
[02:22] <MadIce> Aliens will begin to show themselves in the year 2010, they will not harm us, they simply want to see what we are doing to this planet. They will teach us how to use anti-gravity devices again, such as they did for the pyramids.
[02:22] <thanatos1> but i dont want to start a flame war here
[02:22] <MadIce> Prediction by Sylivia

[02:22] <Thelper> alexander
[02:22] <thanatos1> where is that quote from madice?
[02:23] <thanatos1> haa haa haa
[02:23] <hellrazor666> AlexanderTT how old are u
[02:23] <thanatos1> lololol
[02:23] <Thelper> that is different your thinking of invoking demons
[02:23] <Thelper> for powers
[02:23] <Thelper> to do evikl
[02:23] <Thelper> not psi powers
[02:23] <Thelper> which is natrual
[02:23] <DWOMT> aliens are not demons
[02:23] <Thelper> there also spiritually powers
[02:23] <Thelper> no aliens
[02:23] <AlexanderTT> MadIce, if she can move objects why does she need anti-gravity?
[02:23] <Thelper> im talking to alex aboput his comment
[02:23] <DWOMT> yes there are aliens
[02:23] <AlexanderTT> lets put aside that there is- no such thing, but you can control gravity to an extent
[02:23] <Thelper> alex your talking of invoking demons and blackmagicks
[02:23] * thanatos1 picks up his chair and sits in the skeptics corner
[02:24] <Thelper> nt psi abilitys
[02:24] <Thelper> and spiritually healing etc
[02:24] <zpider> Sorry Alex, I know you weren't trying to offend me
[02:24] <zpider> Yes
[02:24] * MadIce brings thanatos1 a glass of milk.
[02:24] <zpider> Alex
[02:24] <AlexanderTT> well I am interested in the subject, however I do not think my religion would allow me to practice such things
[02:24] <zpider> You have told us to open our minds?
[02:24] <zpider> To consider the validity of what you told us
[02:24] * thanatos1 glug glug glug
[02:25] <Thelper> psi isnt evil
[02:25] <zpider> Mayby you could try the same for what we are telling you?
[02:25] <AlexanderTT> yes, my mind is open, I did not say your lieing
[02:25] <Thelper> invoking demons and black magick is
[02:25] <zpider> Yes
[02:25] <Thelper> that is what u thinking of when say it against ya religion
[02:25] <Thelper> psi is natrual human ability with mind and brain
[02:25] <AlexanderTT> i will love to hear more about it I am just stating that my religion condemns it
[02:25] <Thelper> k
[02:25] <Thelper> well to bad
[02:25] <zpider> I understand
[02:25] <Thelper> as u can heal
[02:25] <Thelper> with ti
[02:26] <Thelper> legitly
[02:26] <Thelper> the sick
[02:26] <thanatos1> my sensibility condems it,, but thats a long story
[02:26] <zpider> Yes
[02:26] <MadIce> AlexanderTT: She needs a gravity device for the same reason you can predict the future and deny nonlinear dynamics.
[02:26] <zpider> I have that ability naturally..
[02:26] <hellrazor666> AlexanderTT how old are u
[02:26] <AlexanderTT> hmmm...ok MadIce, haa haa haa
[02:26] <Thelper> Alex
[02:27] <Thelper> what your email
[02:27] <Thelper> ill email u the files
[02:27] <Thelper> of ppl using psi
[02:27] <thanatos1> no spam!!!
[02:27] <Thelper> abilitys
[02:27] <AlexanderTT> i wish I was the one denying it then I could be like newton MadIce, make my own math to fit my theories, haa haa haa
[02:27] <thanatos1>

[02:27] <AlexanderTT> he set us back a lot by doing that by the way
[02:28] <hellrazor666> AlexanderTT u avoiding my question ?
[02:28] <AlexanderTT> i dont htin k my e-mail can hold videos
[02:28] <MadIce> Nonlinear dynamics is just what used to be called Chaos Theory.
[02:28] <Thelper> its small
[02:28] <Thelper> k alex log on yahoo then
[02:28] <Thelper> ill send it there
[02:29] <AlexanderTT> really? I have heard of Chaos Theory, isnt that trying to explain random actions? in nature?
[02:29] <zpider> Organised chaos
[02:29] <zpider> Like nature I supposed
[02:29] <zpider> Its chaos, but in perfect balance
[02:29] <AlexanderTT> interesting
[02:29] <hellrazor666> AlexanderTT what religon do u follow
[02:29] <AlexanderTT> CHRISTianity
 

Opmmur

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Posted by: Professor Opmmur
Session Start: February 23 & 24, 23:57, 2004
Session Time Travel Theory Forum



[02:30] <Thelper> alex u want the videos
[02:30] <zpider> Alex
[02:30] <Thelper> how can i send u them?
[02:30] <Thelper> yahoo
[02:30] * thanatos1 follows no dogma, but belives there is a higher force
[02:30] <AlexanderTT> how about providing a url?
[02:30] <hellrazor666> if ur religon doesnt allow such things as what Thelper and i practise then how can it allow timetravel as time travel developed by science tht suppose to be influnced by the devil
[02:30] <hellrazor666> haa haa haa
[02:30] <zpider> What would you say If I told you that jesus healed people the same way people with psi can, like I can
[02:31] <DWOMT> "the force"
[02:31] <hellrazor666> and u knowing tht why would u follow christianity if u know tht it just condems u
[02:31] * thanatos1 hopes this is not going to turn into a thelogical debate
[02:31] <zpider> People have reasons for following religion, I don't think that should be debated here
[02:31] <thanatos1> !
[02:32] <thanatos1> thankyou zpider
[02:32] <Thelper> alex here
[02:32] <Thelper> http://www.psipog.net/media.php
[02:32] <AlexanderTT> hellrazor666, you forget that christianity has always changed its veiws when new discoveries are made, they once through people in jail for saying the earth was round, Galileo
[02:32] <Thelper> thatr has siome
[02:32] <Thelper> not ones i got but some yes
[02:32] <MadIce> Lonlinear dynamics helps to show why predictions or forcasts are hard and virtually impossible after a while. That's one of its applications.
[02:32] <Thelper> http://www.psipog.net/media.php
[02:32] <MadIce> Nonlinear even
[02:32] <hellrazor666> k AlexanderTT now i can see ur not ignoring me in general would u mind sharing ur age with us
[02:32] <thanatos1> the laws of thermodynamics themsleves are chaotic
[02:33] <zpider> He is 39
[02:33] <hellrazor666> ic
[02:33] <AlexanderTT> ok MadIce, I dont see who that applyies to gravitaional pulse of micro-singularities?
[02:33] <DWOMT> you know how you said your tempted to stay here Alex?..how about this. Why don't we all escape to another time or worldline together. it will benefit us all..haa haa haa
[02:33] <hellrazor666> so he was born in 2000
[02:33] <zpider> haa haa haa
[02:33] <Thelper> alex here check link http://www.psipog.net/media.php
[02:33] <Thelper> it has videos of psi
[02:33] <Thelper> at small usuage
[02:33] <Thelper> for beginers
[02:33] <zpider> DWOMT
[02:33] <hellrazor666> so there noway he can be on the web at at 3-4/this year and next year
[02:33] <zpider> Could you imagine leaving your home?
[02:34] <zpider> Your family?
[02:34] <hellrazor666> so when he gone his ip will nolonger give a ping reply
[02:34] <hellrazor666> witch would confirm if he real or not
[02:34] <DWOMT> i'd bring my girlfriend..but thats it
[02:34] <hellrazor666> haa haa haa
[02:34] <zpider> haa haa haa
[02:34] <MadIce> AlexanderTT: Quantum mechanics, Nonlinear dynamics and Murphy's law all seem to be connected with eachother

[02:34] <thanatos1> haa haa haa at madice
[02:34] <AlexanderTT> oh I see, I will have to read into it
[02:34] <Thelper> law first problems
[02:34] <thanatos1> Damn murphy
[02:34] <AlexanderTT> I am sure it is addressed in my manual
[02:34] <DWOMT> eddie murphy
[02:35] <zpider> Alex, does your manual show you how to perform repairs
[02:35] <Thelper> anything is possible with enough devotion
[02:35] <zpider> Did you ever have to strip any part of the c404 down before missions?
[02:36] <MadIce> Does anyone remember the URL of Jorune's log files?
[02:36] <thanatos1> er hang on
[02:36] <AlexanderTT> very minimum zpider
[02:37] <thanatos1> http://www.parous.net/ttlogs/
[02:37] <DWOMT> are any World War 2 aircraft still left in your time Alex?..like maybe someone who preserves them
[02:38] <AlexanderTT> I think so DWOMT
[02:38] <DWOMT> very interesting
[02:38] <AlexanderTT> I have seen prop planes
[02:38] <zpider> Hmm
[02:38] <DWOMT> I'm heavily into World War 2 history and aircraft
[02:38] <zpider> Could run the VGL in a plane and make a jump?
[02:38] <AlexanderTT> dont know if they are old or new though, never really paid attnetion or been to an airport lately
[02:39] <AlexanderTT> if it was sitting still, yes
[02:39] <zpider> Helicopter :>
[02:39] <AlexanderTT> once again , if it was sitting still, I dont see why not
[02:40] <DWOMT> from all the nuclear detonations..how does the sky look in 2039 Alex?..does it still look the same as ours..or is it a hazy red color?..anything different from our sky?
[02:40] <hellrazor666> AlexanderTT u got anything from future u can scan in ?
[02:40] <hellrazor666> or read/discribe to us
[02:41] <AlexanderTT> no, sunrises and sunsets are still beautiful, and immediatly after the nuclear strike we didnt see the sky much
[02:41] <Thelper> dust right
[02:41] <Thelper> alex?
[02:41] <AlexanderTT> hellrazor666, I have done that, when is it going to be enough?
[02:41] <DWOMT> how long was the sky not visible?
[02:41] <AlexanderTT> radioactive dust adn rain, yes, very dangerous
[02:42] <AlexanderTT> well we hid for quite some time, in the coal mines and such
[02:42] <hellrazor666> [10:42:am] <AlexanderTT> hellrazor666, I have done that, when is it going to be enough?
[02:42] <zpider> What about food?
[02:42] <hellrazor666> i havnt seen anything
[02:42] <hellrazor666> i knew to this mirc room
[02:42] <hellrazor666> new*
[02:42] <zpider> He posted equations
[02:44] <thanatos1> «AlexanderTT» there ya go
[02:44] <hellrazor666> AlexanderTT have u done much research into films/music that exists in our timeline
[02:45] <MadIce> thant: Thanks for the link. hellrazor666: scrollup for a link of the logs.
[02:45] <hellrazor666> k tnx
[02:45] <AlexanderTT> i have watch some movies that were reccomended, and I do like a badn here named, chevelle, though I have hears only one or two songs from them
[02:46] <zpider> Do you like DVD's?
[02:46] <DWOMT> do any celebrities from today survive the war?
[02:46] <AlexanderTT> dvd's are like records to me, but I guess so
[02:46] <Thelper> alex did u get the videos?
[02:46] <Thelper> http://www.psipog.net/media.php
[02:47] <AlexanderTT> yes thelper and they were interesting
[02:47] <hellrazor666> AlexanderTT what was best film uve seen tht exists in our timeline
[02:47] <hellrazor666> and what was worst film u saw
[02:47] <MadIce> Ooooh: Get me a copy of the Hobbit on DVD, Alex. I will even promote you!
[02:47] <thanatos1> haa haa haa
[02:47] <DWOMT> haa haa haa MadIce
[02:47] <thanatos1> didnt you see world idol madice
[02:47] <thanatos1> the hobbit was singing
[02:48] <AlexanderTT> well, I thought the one was interesting
[02:48] <thanatos1>

[02:48] <hellrazor666> the one ?
[02:48] <thanatos1> he won it too!
[02:48] <AlexanderTT> i still want to see sliders to see the similarities people say it has
[02:48] <thanatos1> jet li rocks
[02:48] <zpider> That was an awsome show
[02:48] <hellrazor666> sliders pretty kool
[02:48] <zpider> They mentioned telsa in it
[02:48] <zpider> He had todo with the freuqncy
[02:48] <thanatos1> the one was his worst movie though

[02:48] <DWOMT> see only the first 3 seasons of sliders
[02:48] <zpider> Thats how they operated the windows..
[02:49] <AlexanderTT> yes the one , an action maovie about a guy who kills himself in other worldlines, very interesting
[02:49] <DWOMT> the other seasons suck
[02:49] <hellrazor666> ah ic
[02:49] <hellrazor666> havnt seen tht

[02:49] <thanatos1> theres another good one called quantum leap
[02:49] <hellrazor666> u seen the matrix ?
[02:49] <thanatos1> from the eighties
[02:49] <AlexanderTT> quantum leap?
[02:49] <AlexanderTT> i will look for it
[02:49] <thanatos1> with scott baccula
[02:50] <thanatos1> caught in alternate worlds and slides from one to the other
[02:50] <thanatos1> fixing problems
[02:50] <DWOMT> Quantum Leap Season 1 is coming to DVD
[02:50] * MadIce sips his fresh coffee
[02:50] <Thelper> the one?
[02:50] <AlexanderTT> fixing problems? would that not take forever?
[02:50] <thanatos1> yes will you have to see it to understand
[02:50] <AlexanderTT> theres that bland coffee again, haa haa haa
[02:50] <zpider> Not if there was a limited amount of wordlines..
[02:51] <thanatos1> its complicated,, and it has ziggy!
[02:51] <AlexanderTT> ziggy?
[02:51] <Thelper> alexander did u check the Tk videos out
[02:51] <AlexanderTT> yes thelper
[02:51] <AlexanderTT> they were interesting
[02:51] <thanatos1> he;s a character that is like a phantom from the guys real worldline
[02:51] <thanatos1> helps him with stuff
[02:51] <AlexanderTT> wait like a messanger?
[02:51] <thanatos1> yes
[02:52] <AlexanderTT> we think we can do that one day
[02:52] <thanatos1> but a hologram
[02:52] <zpider> Hmmm
[02:52] <zpider> alex
[02:52] <AlexanderTT> we are working on it
[02:52] <thanatos1> that would be wierd
[02:52] <MadIce> There seem to be many TT theories: Parallel universes, N-jump, saw tooth model, linear, loops... Take you pick

[02:52] <zpider> Me and thelper could theoretically create a psi ball in your room
[02:52] <zpider> For you to see
[02:52] <zpider> And move it around
[02:52] <AlexanderTT> messages from you home, and yes it could be a hologram I guess
[02:53] <thanatos1> as you can see many ideas have allready been explored
[02:53] <AlexanderTT> maybe they all could work under the right circumstanced MadIce
[02:53] <AlexanderTT> do you want to know the most interesting idea that we are working on? its from star trek
[02:53] <DWOMT> warp drive?
[02:53] <AlexanderTT> yes!
[02:53] <AlexanderTT> we think its possible
[02:53] <thanatos1> transporter beam
[02:53] <DWOMT> of course it is
[02:54] <DWOMT> star trek is an excellent vision of the future
[02:54] <zpider> My bro loves it :>
[02:54] <thanatos1> ask boris
[02:54] <zpider> He's created quite a few interesting theories..
[02:54] <thanatos1>

[02:54] <DWOMT> i wish i could live in a star trek type world...the current world is not for me
[02:54] <AlexanderTT> you compress the space in front of you and expand the space behind you, you actually do not move, you moved the universe around you
[02:54] <zpider> Yep :>
[02:54] <MadIce> If one can time travel then intergalactic travel should be a piece of cake.
[02:54] <zpider> I know of that
[02:54] <AlexanderTT> we are working on it
[02:54] <thanatos1> there is theories for this possibility now
[02:55] <AlexanderTT> its not as easy as you think MadIce, at least not where I come from
[02:55] <thanatos1> hi'm sure madice can link us up
[02:55] <zpider> Would the process use a micro singularity?
[02:55] <zpider> To bend space
[02:55] <AlexanderTT> i dont know
[02:55] <AlexanderTT> possibly
[02:55] <DWOMT> i'd be afraid of mankind trying to conquer other planets in space..haa haa haa
[02:55] <zpider> haa haa haa
[02:55] <zpider> If we came from mars there must be more of us
[02:56] <thanatos1> i think we are pretty much alone in this sector of the galaxy
[02:56] <AlexanderTT> it makes you wonder, if we would be war like conquerers of other worlds?
[02:56] <zpider> Alex
[02:56] <DWOMT> yes Alex
[02:56] <zpider> Play the game Halo!
[02:56] <zpider> That would give you a nice idea..
[02:56] <AlexanderTT> a game? why should I play a game?
[02:56] <DWOMT> i love the scenery in Halo..seeing another planet in the evening sky of a world
[02:56] <zpider> Games are a good means of escapism
[02:57] <DWOMT> yeah
[02:57] <DWOMT> i play Battlefield1942 all the time...love that game
[02:57] <zpider> Yep
[02:57] <AlexanderTT> I think the last thing I need to do is escape even further from my home, haa haa haa
[02:57] <zpider> haa haa haa
[02:57] <zpider> Escape to your home
[02:57] <zpider> Not away
[02:57] <thanatos1> time to eat be back soon
[02:57] <AlexanderTT> i dont think they have a AlexanderTT from 2039 game , haa haa haa
[02:58] <MadIce> This is the theory (by a guy who believes TT is impossible - haa haa haa) -> The quantum inequalities do not forbid spacetime shortcuts: http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/gr-qc/pdf/0207/0207057.pdf
[02:58] <DWOMT> haa haa haa
[02:58] <zpider> But probably something similar
[02:58] <AlexanderTT> MadIce, I cant see .pdf files
[02:58] <DWOMT> Alex..are you familiar with the mirror universe in star trek?
[02:58] <AlexanderTT> mirror universe? i havent watched the show much
[02:58] <MadIce> AlexanderTT: Sorry. Google it up. There is a PS version too.
[02:59] <AlexanderTT> what should I search for? in google?
[02:59] <DWOMT> there's a mirror universe of our universe in star trek. everyone and everything that exists here is in the mirror universe..but opposite. I am good here, my counterpart in the mirror universe is a bad guy
[03:00] <AlexanderTT> i guess that would be 50% divergence, meaning complete opposite
[03:00] <catman1> the episode was called "Mirror,Mirror
[03:00] <MadIce> The author is S. Krasnikov
[03:00] <DWOMT> in our universe..the Federation is an alliance of peace.......in the mirror world the Federation is an empire
[03:00] <AlexanderTT> interesting
[03:00] <MadIce> The paper is called "The quantum inequalities do not forbid spacetime shortcuts"
[03:01] <AlexanderTT> wow its 5 in the morning, I really need some sleep guys
[03:02] <AlexanderTT> I will be back as soon as I can
[03:02] <AlexanderTT> good night, er, morning
[03:02] <DWOMT> Night Alex
[03:02] <MadIce> Night
[03:02] <AlexanderTT> oh and MadIce, I cant wait to read it
[03:02] <catman1> see ya Alex...get some sleep!!
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