Part #9 mIRC; Alexanders chat logs for Feb. 17, 2004: Alexander was a friend of John Titor

Opmmur

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Part #9 mIRC; Alexanders chat logs for Feb. 17, 2004: Alexander was a friend of John Titor

mIRC Feb. 17, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Professor Opmmur
Session Start: February 17, 20:21, 2004
Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn



Session Start: Mon Feb 16 23:50:07 2004
Start: Tue Feb 17 00:00:01 2004 Part #8
Session Ident: #AlexanderTTSpeaks

[00:00] <Thelper> haa haa haa
[00:00] <Nvragnevr> youre not encouraging me, alex
[00:00] <Thelper> he spent most his live in a war
[00:00] <Nvragnevr> H1, opmmur, do you understand my point now?
[00:00] <H1t|M4n> Yes
[00:00] <AlexanderTT> please you must understand, my situation, and we must talk so that I can understand, I am quite dumb compared to you
[00:00] <Thelper> I doubt he had time to studie normal maths let alone applied
[00:00] <Nvragnevr> ok...opmmur, do you see my point also?
[00:01] <Thelper> just pointing out obvious kpax
[00:01] <AlexanderTT> Nvragnevr, I never had an education as you had
[00:01] <Nvragnevr> alex...please listen to me
[00:01] <Nvragnevr> and the rest of you also
[00:01] <AlexanderTT> and physics was the last thing on our mind while fighting in the wilderness
[00:01] <Nvragnevr> and please, for once, nobody yak in here, ok?\
[00:01] <Nvragnevr> i have spent a lot of time, around real scientists, doing real science
[00:01] <AlexanderTT> i will give you that respect if you return it
[00:02] <Nvragnevr> fine, i hear you alex
[00:02] <Nvragnevr> if you claim to have an actual device, or know of one, i am waiting for specifics
[00:02] <AlexanderTT> i will tell you all that I know
[00:02] <Nvragnevr> i have worked in electrophysics and signal processing for many years...also medical instrumntation
[00:03] <Nvragnevr> i hold a double b\BS, triple MS, in engineeringh physics, math, and the biosciences
[00:03] <Nvragnevr> i am for real
[00:03] <Nvragnevr> if you have serious topics to discuss, i will listen seriously
[00:03] <Nvragnevr> however
[00:03] <Nvragnevr> i will not listen to total nonsense
[00:03] <Nvragnevr> completely unsubstantiated
[00:03] <Nvragnevr> now
[00:03] <AlexanderTT> Nvragnevr, are you aware of gravity and time being connected?
[00:03] <Nvragnevr> if you have serious technical aspects to discuss
[00:03] <Nvragnevr> please get about it
[00:03] <Nvragnevr> im waiting
[00:04] <Nvragnevr> well?
[00:04] <AlexanderTT> what do you want to know
[00:04] <Nvragnevr> in what sense are you referring to?
[00:04] <AlexanderTT> gravity is not a force, it is part of the 4th dimension, you call this space-time
[00:04] <Nvragnevr> that is just stupid, alex
[00:05] <AlexanderTT> ever wondered if you could go through a black hole
[00:05] <Thelper> nvr
[00:05] <Nvragnevr> lets get back to some real basics here
[00:05] <AlexanderTT> I can explain how you can
[00:05] <Thelper> do you even know of the 5th dimention?
[00:05] <Nvragnevr> i understand, thelper
[00:05] <Nvragnevr> i hear you
[00:05] <Nvragnevr> first
[00:05] <Nvragnevr> do any of you even know the difference between general and special relativity?
[00:05] <Nvragnevr> do any of you even know who lorentz was?
[00:06] <Nvragnevr> what what the lorentz transformation is?
[00:06] <Thelper> pysics are wrong this will be found out in late future
[00:06] <AlexanderTT> general relativity applies the rule of not being able to travel faster than light
[00:06] <Nvragnevr> or what riemannian space time actually implies?
[00:06] <Nvragnevr> no, alex
[00:06] <Nvragnevr> special relativity defines that
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[00:06] <AlexanderTT> i have the lorentz transformation
[00:06] <Nvragnevr> not general
[00:06] <AlexanderTT> its in my manual
[00:06] * GearBrains sets mode: +v algol_aida
[00:06] <Thelper> I know what happens when you die, and I know you would only believe me when you die yourself so ill wait to then then contact your in your new home
[00:07] <Nvragnevr> and before you go into such things
[00:07] <Nvragnevr> how much electromagnetics do any of you know?
[00:07] <Nvragnevr> because
[00:07] <Thelper> nvr I can tavel at the speed of light
[00:07] <Thelper> already
[00:07] <Thelper> and so can you
[00:07] <Nvragnevr> before you can even discuss relativity intelligently
[00:07] <Nvragnevr> that is absolutely requisite
[00:07] <Nvragnevr> thelper, please do not waste my time with nonsense
[00:07] <Thelper> yes wait till you die
[00:07] <AlexanderTT> Nvragnevr, relativity forbids time travel
[00:07] <Thelper> then we see who right k?
[00:08] <Nvragnevr> if you wish to have an intelligent discussion about the soul, i am willing
[00:08] <Nvragnevr> but
[00:08] <AlexanderTT> thats like saying newton applies to quantum mechanics
[00:08] <Nvragnevr> you are speaking with no knowledge, and in total ignorance of relevant physics
[00:08] <Thelper> I can but ill let you talk to alex
[00:08] <Nvragnevr> now
[00:08] <Nvragnevr> if you want me explain my views, i will
[00:09] <AlexanderTT> yes, and I have admitted I have no formal traning in these matters
[00:09] <Thelper> physics are wrong this is what is holding you back
[00:09] <Thelper> you will learn this in future
[00:09] <Nvragnevr> thelper, that is absurd, and childish
[00:09] <AlexanderTT> explain your views Nvragnevr, I am listening
[00:09] <AlexanderTT> it might sound familier to me
[00:09] <AlexanderTT> please
[00:09] <Nvragnevr> you want me to change topics?
[00:10] <AlexanderTT> explain your views on science behind time travel, is it possible and how?
[00:10] <Nvragnevr> there are serious aspects of time reversal that do occur routinely in physics and engineering
[00:10] <Nvragnevr> albeit not for such spectacular reasons
[00:10] <Nvragnevr> generally
[00:11] <Nvragnevr> time reversal occurs due due to complex conjugacy
[00:11] <Nvragnevr> which requires a fair level of complex variable theory to follow
[00:11] <AlexanderTT> no you are already starting out wrong, I DID NOT TRULY TRAVEL TIME, I traveled to your worldline which is behind us in relation to our current calender
[00:12] <Nvragnevr> alex, cut the nonsense, ok?
[00:12] <AlexanderTT> wew cannot travel through time literally
[00:12] <Nvragnevr> please
[00:12] <Nvragnevr> if you want a serious discussion, i will have one
[00:12] <Nvragnevr> however
[00:12] <AlexanderTT> go on
[00:12] <Nvragnevr> i will not listen to that sort of BS, ok?
[00:12] <Nvragnevr> yes?
[00:12] <Nvragnevr> YES?
[00:12] <Nvragnevr> im waiting, alex
[00:12] <AlexanderTT> i am just pointing out that you assumed I traveled the same time line backwards
[00:13] <Nvragnevr> alex, stop bandying terminology you clearly do not understand, ok?
[00:13] <AlexanderTT> that is not possible
[00:13] <Nvragnevr> please
[00:13] <Nvragnevr> now
[00:13] <Nvragnevr> an example of time reversal in physics, occurs in convolution
[00:13] <Nvragnevr> and the concept of an impuslse response
[00:14] <Nvragnevr> one speaks of an impuse response being convolved with a time function
[00:14] <Nvragnevr> however
[00:14] <Nvragnevr> physicslly, one passes over the other time reversed
[00:14] <Nvragnevr> which is standard physics
[00:14] <Nvragnevr> next
[00:14] <Nvragnevr> there is such a thing as an an adjoint operator
[00:15] <Nvragnevr> in hamiltonian physics
[00:15] <Nvragnevr> arising also in quantum mechanics
[00:15] <Nvragnevr> which involves the complex conjugate of the transpose of the elements of a matrix
[00:15] <Nvragnevr> that is very real, and does occur
[00:16] <Nvragnevr> the reason time reversal often occurs in physics, is that normally, time solutions tent to be harmonic
[00:16] <Nvragnevr> sinusoidal
[00:16] <Nvragnevr> and thus exponential
[00:16] <AlexanderTT> sounds familier
[00:16] <Link22> i think you've slammed him already..haa haa haa
[00:16] <Nvragnevr> solutions fo differential equations often involve solving for eigenvalues
[00:17] <Nvragnevr> those eigenvalues are often complex conjugates of one another, reflections in time or position
[00:17] <Nvragnevr> an example occurs in cojugate optics
[00:17] <Nvragnevr> especially in holographic generation
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[00:18] <Nvragnevr> Fourier optics also uses that feature constantly
[00:18] * GearBrains sets mode: +v catman1
[00:18] <Nvragnevr> i trust i am making my point?
[00:18] <Nvragnevr> now
[00:18] <Nvragnevr> if you want serious, i will be serious
[00:18] <AlexanderTT> you have not adressed anything that applies to the science that got me here
[00:18] <Nvragnevr> when you even remotely understand those concepts, come and talk to me
[00:18] <AlexanderTT> you think of your universe as just that uni
[00:19] <KPAX> and that was all she wrote
[00:19] <KPAX> ROFL
[00:19] <Nvragnevr> your science, if real, is based on that level of knowledge
[00:19] <Nvragnevr> understand it, have an intelligent discussion about it
[00:19] <AlexanderTT> yes I can copy and paste too KPAX, even if it doesnt apply
[00:19] <Nvragnevr> and MAYBE i MIGHT believe you
[00:19] <Nvragnevr> till then what you are saying is total BS
[00:19] <Link22> i don't think the science of today is gonna be so unkown in 30 years
[00:19] <AlexanderTT> Nvragnevr, you do not want to have a conversation you just wanted to copy and paste those messages and then leave
[00:20] <Nvragnevr> do i make myself clear?
[00:20] <AlexanderTT> calling that proof
[00:20] <AlexanderTT> you will not address my questions or comments, you call it BS
[00:20] <Nvragnevr> if you have technical details, present them
[00:20] <catman1> hello Alex
[00:20] <Nvragnevr> i will listen
[00:20] <Nvragnevr> im listening
[00:20] <Nvragnevr> explain
[00:20] <AlexanderTT> are you aware of the theories behind event horizons?
[00:21] <Nvragnevr> certainly
[00:21] <Nvragnevr> relate those to your device please
[00:21] <AlexanderTT> first your views on why we cannot enter them, if you please, and I'll explain why you can
[00:21] <Link22> haa haa haa
[00:21] * GearBrains feels like Jethro Bodine at a Einstein convention!
[00:21] <Thelper> kpax that proves nothing, as he stated most you think that there only oner universe/dimention but this is wrong when you die you transcend to the 5th dimention which is made of many plains "you ppl are correct it is 7 plains" from my knowledge astral projection is your other body tuning into this to actually gain access to the plain you must fist meet your egos these are negative thoughts that your physical body possesses, they may even manife
[00:22] <Link22> you know it's hard to take someone with such horrible grammar so seriously
[00:22] <AlexanderTT> thelper I appreciate the help but wait untill later to comment, thank you
[00:22] <Nvragnevr> first, the concept of a wormhole does arise at extremely high energies, that cannot be duplicated here
[00:22] <AlexanderTT> no not wormhole
[00:22] <AlexanderTT> event horizon of a black hole
[00:22] <Thelper> as I said link22 I do not speak with a togue in my time
[00:22] <Nvragnevr> for what you are describing to occur would require at least fusion power...minimum
[00:22] <Thelper> im onyl learning english now as it is necessary
[00:22] <AlexanderTT> you have yet to address the simple matter of being stretched to infinity as aproachin it
[00:22] <Link22> you don't need a tongue to type and spell
[00:23] <Nvragnevr> that is nonsense...i fully understand the concept of event horizon of a black hole
[00:23] <Nvragnevr> and they cannot be duplicated here
[00:23] <AlexanderTT> then why can you not enter one?
[00:23] <AlexanderTT> i will explain why you can after you explain why you cannot
[00:23] <Nvragnevr> are you referring to divergence again?
[00:23] <AlexanderTT> no
[00:24] <Nvragnevr> then what?
[00:24] <Nvragnevr> i have a limit to my astrophysics, i have done a fair amount of particle physics
[00:24] <Nvragnevr> up through cross section
[00:24] <Nvragnevr> mandelstam variables
[00:24] <AlexanderTT> i am referring to having infinite difference between gravity pull in front of you and behind you as you approach the horizon
[00:24] <Nvragnevr> the dirac equation
[00:24] <Nvragnevr> ok, i follow
[00:24] <AlexanderTT> ok
[00:25] <AlexanderTT> lets move on to why this would not be a problem
[00:25] <Nvragnevr> as i understood the matter, a black hole is a singularity
[00:25] <AlexanderTT> yes, but we have not reached the singularity yet, we are apraoching
[00:25] <Nvragnevr> where graviational field lines diverge
[00:26] <AlexanderTT> the singularity lies beyond the event horizon, where not even light can come back
[00:26] <AlexanderTT> do you follow
[00:26] <Nvragnevr> i want you to please relate that to explicit technology
[00:26] <Nvragnevr> if you know explicit technology, discuss it
[00:26] <Nvragnevr> obviously , i follow
[00:26] <Nvragnevr> i want you to relate that to specific technology
[00:27] <Nvragnevr> the level of power required, let along the energy levels, would require controlled fusion
[00:27] <Nvragnevr> on a tokamak level
[00:27] <AlexanderTT> you have not created an artificial black hole yet
[00:27] <Nvragnevr> discuss the specifics of your technology NOW, please
[00:27] <AlexanderTT> i am speaking of natural black holes and your current understanding of them
[00:28] <Nvragnevr> i have a reasonable grasp of the concept
[00:28] <Nvragnevr> please relate that to you technology
[00:28] <Nvragnevr> if you are for real, relate that to an explicit device, please
[00:29] <AlexanderTT> as you aproach the event horizon the force of gravity would be enough to stretch you out almost infinitely, this is not a problem due to the fact that gravityies force os so strong it breaks down the laws of physics, allowing you to be strectched
[00:29] <Nvragnevr> i am not a happy camper, alex
[00:29] <Nvragnevr> i want specifics
[00:29] <AlexanderTT> now lets continue ,I promise to get to the C404 in a minute
[00:29] <Nvragnevr> now, please
 

Opmmur

Time Travel Professor
Messages
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mIRC Feb. 17, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Professor Opmmur
Session Start: February 17, 20:21, 2004
Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn



[00:30] <Nvragnevr> im waiting, alex
[00:30] <AlexanderTT> a kerr black hole is a man made concept, CERN laboratories right now are trying to develop these
[00:30] <Nvragnevr> ive heard
[00:31] <Nvragnevr> but that is not correct either
[00:31] <Nvragnevr> but ill let that pass for now
[00:31] <Nvragnevr> i want specifics about technology, please
[00:31] <AlexanderTT> in a kerr black hole the singularity would be what ever is inside the event horizon, and the gravity forces could be controlled on the outside (not sucking the world in) by another kerr black hole being used to contain the event horizon
[00:31] <Nvragnevr> first
[00:31] <AlexanderTT> do you follow or should I eleborate
[00:32] <Nvragnevr> if you are claiming that level of physics
[00:32] <Nvragnevr> you cannot do so legitimately without some basic knowledge of the standard model
[00:32] <Nvragnevr> or of quantum mechanics
[00:32] <AlexanderTT> i am expliaing what was told to me Nvragnevr, IN lay-mans terms
[00:32] <Nvragnevr> or string theoretic concepts
[00:33] <KPAX> gotcha!
[00:33] <Nvragnevr> i want specifics as to technology
[00:33] <Nvragnevr> for example
[00:33] <Nvragnevr> what is a tensor?
[00:33] <Nvragnevr> and how does it differ from a matrix?
[00:33] <AlexanderTT> specifics? the applied concepts is in the C404 sitting about one hundred yards from me right now
[00:34] <Nvragnevr> i am waiting eagerly for you to explain the term C404
[00:34] <AlexanderTT> tensor, the vibration of strings ?
[00:34] <Nvragnevr> i meant the mathematical operation
[00:34] <AlexanderTT> i have those too
[00:34] <AlexanderTT> but it is hard to post them in here
[00:34] <Nvragnevr> i am waiting for a description of the term C404, alex
[00:34] <AlexanderTT> i have the equations that you seek
[00:34] <Nvragnevr> i am not asking you for equations
[00:35] <AlexanderTT> the C404 is the dual micro-singularity generator that got me here
[00:35] <Nvragnevr> describe
[00:35] <Nvragnevr> more
[00:35] <Nvragnevr> power source
[00:35] <Nvragnevr> hardware
[00:35] <Nvragnevr> software
[00:35] <Nvragnevr> all of it
[00:35] <AlexanderTT> one at a time please
[00:35] <Nvragnevr> go
[00:36] <Nvragnevr> im waiting
[00:36] <Thelper> he typing
[00:36] <Thelper> obvious
[00:36] <AlexanderTT> hydrogen fuel cell that charges, what you would call a battery to make jumps. it takes a lot of energy to create the micro-singularities
[00:36] <Nvragnevr> thats physically impossible, alex
[00:36] <AlexanderTT> explain
[00:37] <Thelper> maybe to you but he is like 40yrs into future?
[00:37] <Nvragnevr> i folloy understand, kpax
[00:37] <Nvragnevr> i hear you, kpax
[00:37] <AlexanderTT> eplain why impossible
[00:37] <AlexanderTT> you will eat your words when you read the technical manual, but then again maybe I understand the technology wrong
[00:37] <Thelper> to his knowledge it isd
[00:38] <Nvragnevr> the level of energy needed to even examine the quark-level gluon model would require a fusion power source , minimum
[00:38] <Thelper> alex go get manual
[00:38] <Thelper> use that to explain
[00:38] <AlexanderTT> ah! but my hydrogen fuel cell is better than you think
[00:38] <Nvragnevr> let alone use such particle physics to generate the singularity you describe
[00:38] <Thelper> so u dont make mistakes
[00:38] <Nvragnevr> alex, BS
[00:38] <AlexanderTT> no BS
[00:38] <AlexanderTT> i could power a town with it
[00:38] <Nvragnevr> no hydrogen fuel cell generates that much power
[00:39] <AlexanderTT> they do in 30 years
[00:39] <Thelper> in this time maybe in 40yrs?
[00:39] <Nvragnevr> thats a different matter
[00:39] <Thelper> it clean power is it not?
[00:39] <Nvragnevr> you are speaking of time travel, alex
[00:39] <AlexanderTT> and it does not generate it all at once, it constantly charges the C404
[00:39] <Nvragnevr> not conventional power
[00:39] <Nvragnevr> alex...please do not insult my intelligence
[00:40] <bill300000> Please post us a diagram of that hydrogen fuel cell and the manual
[00:40] <Thelper> alex use the descriptions from the manual
[00:40] <AlexanderTT> fussion is no longer used, we have enough radiation already
[00:40] <Thelper> that might help
[00:40] <Thelper> good point alexander clean energy is way future
[00:40] <Thelper> solar power right also?
[00:40] <Thelper> no waste
[00:40] <Opmmur> Yes WE have in the US Gov. hydrogen fuel cell generateing that much power
[00:40] <AlexanderTT> yes for homes
[00:41] <AlexanderTT> the size of a vcr, opmmur?
[00:41] <Nvragnevr> alex, listen to me
[00:41] <Nvragnevr> what you are describing would require power in the terawatt range
[00:41] <Link22> I'm no physics guy, but I laugh at how mankind tries to act like they know all the rules of nature, power, gravity etc when we havent even landed on Mars yet...hmmmmmmmm
[00:41] <AlexanderTT> initially yes
[00:41] <AlexanderTT> just to start it
[00:41] <Nvragnevr> alex, please...give me a break, ok?
[00:41] <Thelper> link they dont even know that we have more one body
[00:42] <AlexanderTT> after started it can run off of very little power
[00:42] <Nvragnevr> alex...listen to me
[00:42] <AlexanderTT> Nvragnevr, let me ask you something, can you contain the power of lightning?
[00:42] <Nvragnevr> i am fascinated by anecdotes i have heard of time travel
[00:42] <AlexanderTT> can you catch it or generate the same amount of power?
[00:43] <Nvragnevr> and by serious discussions on fusion power
[00:43] <Thelper> alexander
[00:43] <Thelper> yes
[00:43] <Nvragnevr> but it does not exist yet
[00:43] <Thelper> even in olden times
[00:43] <Thelper> they have
[00:43] <AlexanderTT> no it doesnt, it exists in 2017 though
[00:43] <Nvragnevr> and lightning has nothing to do with this
[00:43] <Thelper> lighting rods!
[00:43] <Nvragnevr> alex, please stop it
[00:43] <Opmmur> Thelper Please stay out of it!
[00:43] <Nvragnevr> you are not from the future
[00:43] * GearBrains asks please dont interrupt yet-q & a to follow (i hope)
[00:43] <Nvragnevr> you are not a soldier
[00:44] <Nvragnevr> and this is total garbage
[00:44] <AlexanderTT> Nvragnevr, we can create enough power to cause lightning
[00:44] <Thelper> nvr may I ask what you know of soul? after this?
[00:44] <Nvragnevr> alex, i will not stray into irrelevancies
[00:44] <Nvragnevr> if you wish to change topics, i have certain views on that
[00:45] <AlexanderTT> Nvragnevr, if you truly wish to have a conversation, I will try to expain how we do what we do , when traveling worldline, but you just shut down my agruments thinking them impossible with your current technology
[00:45] <Thelper> nvr do you know that alchemy is more advanced than your technology today?
[00:46] <Nvragnevr> do you know how much software would be required to control a power source of the type you describe, alex?
[00:46] <Nvragnevr> if it even existed?
[00:46] <Nvragnevr> i am a real engineer, alex, i was trained by professionals, and worked with very serious people
[00:46] <Nvragnevr> this is total nonsense
[00:46] <AlexanderTT> Nvragnevr, do you know what my GPS alone is capable of?
[00:47] <AlexanderTT> we have organic processors
[00:47] <Nvragnevr> alex, please do not change topics
[00:47] <AlexanderTT> your computers look like calculaters
[00:47] <AlexanderTT> i didnt you did
[00:47] <Nvragnevr> if you want a serious discussion of physics, i am willing
[00:47] <Nvragnevr> i will not, however, discuss nonsense
[00:47] <AlexanderTT> your computer technology alone, is holding you back from making VGL's
[00:48] <Nvragnevr> guys, i think weve heard enough...yes?
[00:48] <Thelper> AlexanderTT are you refering to biocomputers?
[00:48] <Thelper> computers teaching each other?
[00:48] <AlexanderTT> i am still waiting for a conversation and not one sided views
[00:48] <AlexanderTT> you think it is not possible because you can not do it NOW
[00:48] <Nvragnevr> alex...how much electronics do you actually know?
[00:48] <Nvragnevr> or mathematical physics?
[00:49] <Thelper> haa haa haa I guess to them harnessing the universal energy to space jump is impossible also
[00:49] <AlexanderTT> for gods sake man, we will be on mars next year, my time
[00:49] <Thelper> and it done by a chant
[00:49] <Thelper> and is connected spiritually to the 7 plains
[00:49] <Nvragnevr> if i even mention basic terminology, would you even follow?
[00:49] <Thelper> but yet they wont even realise there other bodys till they die in the physical
[00:49] <AlexanderTT> i will follow you with what I know
[00:49] <Nvragnevr> no one is going to mars, alex
[00:50] <AlexanderTT> i will try to explain to you how we travel, the technology behind it, but you must listen and forget your current level of technology
[00:50] <Nvragnevr> fine, what is a determinant? how does one calculate the inverse of eigenvectors of a matrix?
[00:50] <Nvragnevr> what is a residue in complex variable theory, and how does it arise?
[00:50] <AlexanderTT> once again, I do not know these things, I did not make the C404
[00:50] <Nvragnevr> sorry, the inverse, or eigenvectors
[00:50] <Link22> <AlexanderTT> I was never taught that
[00:51] <Link22> haa haa haa!
[00:51] <Nvragnevr> what is separation of variables?
[00:51] <Nvragnevr> how does it arise in partial differential equations?
[00:51] <Opmmur> Nvragnevr please let Alexander explan
[00:51] <Thelper> nvr your udnerstanding of the universe is nonses your time is blinded by there egos to learn the true potenial of the human mind and heart...
[00:51] <Nvragnevr> qhat is the schrodinger equation?
[00:51] <AlexanderTT> it is not my job to know these things, and honestly, if I did know the technology do you think I would be in this room talking to you?
[00:51] <Nvragnevr> opmmur, listen to me, ok?
[00:51] <Nvragnevr> this is why i told you what i told you
[00:52] <Nvragnevr> this is serious science
[00:52] <AlexanderTT> if you want equations I can provided them
[00:52] <Nvragnevr> not his pseudoscience
[00:52] <Link22> in a way I kinda have to see Alex's point...i drive a car..but I'm no expert on how it works.
[00:52] <AlexanderTT> i do not understand them, but I could make copies
[00:52] <Nvragnevr> i want conversation about these topics, here and now
[00:52] <Nvragnevr> not equation
[00:52] <Nvragnevr> not equations
[00:52] <Nvragnevr> discuss the subjects intelligently
[00:52] <Nvragnevr> equations are not required
[00:52] <AlexanderTT> are you scared of equations showing how TT is done?
[00:53] <Nvragnevr> fine
[00:53] <Nvragnevr> you want to e-mail me your material, send it to me
[00:53] <Nvragnevr> Nvragnevr@aol.com
[00:53] <Nvragnevr> i will gladly read it
[00:53] <AlexanderTT> fine, I will somebody tell me how I can copy a book and post it to e-mail
[00:53] * Link22 hears google being typed up
[00:53] <KPAX> no fragments however
[00:53] <AlexanderTT> no complete pages
[00:53] <AlexanderTT> I dont care
[00:54] <Nvragnevr> all you have to do is send it a little at a time, as attachments
[00:54] <Nvragnevr> or paste it in
[00:54] <Nvragnevr> take your time
[00:54] <Nvragnevr> no rush
[00:54] <Thelper> your big words are not knowledge, true knowledge is finding the true you not this phyiscal representation that wastes it life gaining in denial of the true meaning to our exsistance, your theorys and physis blind you to true potenial of the human being, you think that God doesn't exist your wrong he does and you will know this when you die but by then it bit late for you to advance...but dont worry we are immortal and will return to pyhiscal s
[00:54] <AlexanderTT> how do I copy it?
[00:54] <Nvragnevr> copying is not required
[00:54] <Nvragnevr> merely attach pieces to an email after using Winzip to compress them
[00:54] <Nvragnevr> and then send them to me
[00:54] <AlexanderTT> well its in a binder right now
[00:54] <Nvragnevr> i will gladly read them
[00:55] <AlexanderTT> i need to make it digital
[00:55] <Nvragnevr> scan in the pages
[00:55] <Nvragnevr> if you send material, i will seriously read it
[00:55] <AlexanderTT> i have no scanner, but I can use my friends
[00:55] <Nvragnevr> opmmur, do you see the difference now?
[00:55] <Nvragnevr> fine
[00:55] <Nvragnevr> send it
[00:56] <AlexanderTT> ok, as soon as I can
[00:56] <GearBrains> copy to GearBrains@aol.com please
[00:56] <AlexanderTT> you have my word
[00:56] <AlexanderTT> and how do I know you will not post it to the public before I am safely gone?
[00:57] <GearBrains> i wont
[00:57] <AlexanderTT> i am speaking to Nvragnevr
[00:57] <Opmmur> and to professor@opmmur.com and I will post in inmy forum Time Travel Theory Forum
[00:57] * Thelper has quit IRC (Ping timeout)
[00:57] * Nvragnevr has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[00:57] <AlexanderTT> i do not want it posted untill I am gone
[00:58] <AlexanderTT> honestly if you truly believed I was a time traveler would you not hunt me down like a dog?????????
[00:58] <Opmmur> OK you have my word on it
[00:58] <GearBrains> you set the release date and i will wait till then
[00:59] <Link22> Alexander..did you bring back any newspaper or magazine clippings/articles from your history?..even if it's not some future disasterous event that would have you fingered as a terrorist
[00:59] <AlexanderTT> no but I have pictures, of my home
[00:59] <Link22> from 2039?
[00:59] * Thelper has joined #AlexanderTTspeaks
[00:59] <AlexanderTT> yes
[00:59] <Thelper>

[00:59] * GearBrains sets mode: +v Thelper
[00:59] <Link22> interesting...any pictures of cities in your time?
[00:59] <AlexanderTT> i guess KPAX will get his childish wish after all
 

Opmmur

Time Travel Professor
Messages
4,864
mIRC Feb. 17, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Professor Opmmur
Session Start: February 17, 20:21, 2004

Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn



[01:00] <Thelper> where is professor I im blinded by my own views?
[01:00] <Thelper> professor has strong ego
[01:00] <AlexanderTT> did anyone notice, he would never talk about what I was talking about he would just throw out big words?
[01:00] <Thelper> will never become knowledgable while holding on to his views of how things work and exsist
[01:00] <Thelper> yes I noticed
[01:01] <AlexanderTT> in order for a conversation to take place we would have had to find middle ground in our intelligence difference, he would not do so
[01:01] <Thelper> to him if dont exsist
[01:01] <Thelper> it not possible

[01:01] <Thelper> to bad he hasnt experienced death
[01:01] <Thelper> or he would think differently
[01:02] <catman1> seems like everybody just wants to argue with you Alex why dont they just listen???
[01:02] <Thelper> Alexander does your time know of the exsistance of our other bodys?
[01:02] <Opmmur> Thank catman
[01:02] <AlexanderTT> i agree catman1, what does it matter, worst case for you is that I am right, if I am wrong you have nothing to worry about
[01:03] <Thelper> ALexander your right thou this time can not keep going way it is, it must happen for them to learn how important life is "The gift god gave them".
[01:04] <Thelper> Alex doe your time know of the exsistance of our other bodys?
[01:04] <catman1> I also enjoy talking with you on the forum...I hope all the skeptics dont follow you around wherever you go!!!!
[01:04] <AlexanderTT> you know the only reason I was going to post what you call proof is so that people would listen to what I had to say while I was here
[01:04] <Opmmur> I believe many people do not like hearing the truth
[01:04] <KPAX> [19:05] (@AlexanderTT): i guess KPAX will get his childish wish after all
[01:04] <Thelper> opmmur many ppl think this life is all there is
[01:05] <catman1> Anyway all this tech stuff...most people will not understand it anyway!!
[01:05] <Opmmur> yes you do
[01:05] <Thelper> Alex doe your time know of the exsistance of our other bodys?
[01:05] <Thelper> ?
[01:05] <AlexanderTT> no
[01:05] <Thelper> I c
[01:05] <AlexanderTT> only other selves in other worldlines
[01:06] <Thelper> this time knows a little of it
[01:06] * mrmagic526 has joined #alexanderttspeaks
[01:06] <AlexanderTT> seriously if you guys want proof let me show you what proof you already have...
[01:06] <Thelper> astral projection is a key element in discovering who you truely are "I dont mean the egos that blind you I mean your true being"
[01:07] <mrmagic526> Wow glad I found the room. read about what happened
[01:07] * GearBrains sets mode: +v mrmagic526
[01:07] <Thelper> this wont be discovered through out world for another 1000yrs at l;east to my knowledge im glad to see some know now
[01:07] <AlexanderTT> it has become apparent hundreds of times that I do not and can not relate to any of you and conversations between us are difficult, also explaining things to you is sometimes impossible
[01:07] <KPAX> if you people want ot believe Alex's lies i can't and won't stop you
[01:07] * KPAX has left #AlexanderTTSpeaks
[01:07] <Thelper> if you give them little proof you can help them believe
[01:08] <AlexanderTT> child ran away crying
[01:08] <Thelper> yes his action were that of a infant losing this toy
[01:08] <Thelper> his
[01:08] <mrmagic526> did you all read the mad cow story? It's from the guy who killed the Cow in Washington. He says that they haven't run any mad cow tests since dec 24th.
[01:08] <AlexanderTT> i will call him child from now on extending the same courtesy he has shown me
[01:08] <Thelper> but that lets not dwell on his negativity towards you
[01:09] <Thelper> alexander what were you saying a second ago about helping ppl here "not me" blieve you
[01:09] <Opmmur> I believe Alexander has givin proof of being a time traveler tonight (I believe him )
[01:09] <AlexanderTT> mrmagic526, are you seeing things I have been saying coming true?
[01:09] <Thelper> as I already know of time travel
[01:09] <mrmagic526> davelouthan.org - davelouthan Resources and Information. This website is for sale!
[01:09] <mrmagic526> that's the link to the mad cow story
[01:09] <AlexanderTT> what proof was that tonight opmmur?
[01:09] <AlexanderTT> please explain
[01:09] <mrmagic526> says it's a coverup because of the fact that it would mean a loss of a ton of money if a second mad cow was found
[01:09] <bill300000> alex this next incident is it a large "accident" or is it small and centralized in one area? Oh and Alexander I believe you...
[01:10] <Opmmur> Your words on the subject of real travel
[01:10] * KPAX has joined #AlexanderTTSpeaks
[01:10] <bill300000> the one coming up in several weeks
[01:10] * GearBrains sets mode: +v KPAX
[01:10] <Thelper> kpax keep comig back ?
[01:10] <AlexanderTT> oh about not truly traveling your own time
[01:10] <catman1> I hear on CNN a new mad cow diease was found!!!
[01:10] <AlexanderTT> its not new catman1
[01:10] <Thelper> yes
[01:10] <Thelper> this is true
[01:10] <KPAX> only to get the logs
[01:10] * KPAX has left #AlexanderTTSpeaks
[01:10] <catman1> I guess its just new to us
[01:10] <AlexanderTT> and its not really a disease either
[01:10] <Thelper> why they prove nothing
[01:11] <Thelper> im afraid kpax will be the ones dwelling in the lower plains of hell
[01:11] <Thelper> when he dies
[01:11] <AlexanderTT> its not bacteria or a virus
[01:11] <Thelper> as he has no open mind for anything
[01:11] <mrmagic526> I would like to find out how this wild protien makes a brain a sponge.
[01:11] <bill300000> what is it then
[01:11] <Thelper> I have seen hell
[01:11] <Thelper> it is not nice
[01:11] <bill300000> does your time have any helpful treatments?
[01:11] <Thelper> there is many hells
[01:11] <mrmagic526> it's a protein that causes problems
[01:11] <AlexanderTT> treatments to mad cow?
[01:11] <mrmagic526> it even survives cooking
[01:11] <bill300000> correct
[01:12] <mrmagic526> and freezing
[01:12] <AlexanderTT> yes and being frozen too mrmagic526
[01:12] <mrmagic526> it's a perfect weapon if someone want's to limit population
[01:12] <Thelper> in your transcention to the trueself you must overcome obstacles of evil including learning not to fear hell dimentions and believing in the divine beings
[01:12] <catman1> Also if you are just a layman...seems like you knew an awful lot of technical info tonight!!
[01:12] <AlexanderTT> yes, kill the animals who have eatin there dead
[01:12] <Thelper> chicken is also a spread
[01:13] <AlexanderTT> i know little compared to others
[01:13] <mrmagic526> One question. I know of Rockafellers idea that the worlds population needs to be reduced in half. Is he partially responsible for the war?
[01:13] <AlexanderTT> not that I know of
[01:13] <mrmagic526> or is that the rothchilds
[01:13] <mrmagic526> always confuse those two
[01:13] <AlexanderTT> but the population needs more than half reduced
[01:13] <Thelper> we need to restart so to speak
[01:13] <catman1> Must be a lot of arrogent people out there!!!! (In this time)
[01:13] <Thelper> many catman none of my friends will oppen there mind
[01:14] <AlexanderTT> once again to all, I will gladly tell of what I know about the technology behind the C404
[01:14] <Thelper> I talk of a sucubus and my freidn thinks it kewl
[01:14] <catman1> Sucubus and Incubus!!
[01:14] <Thelper> im like it is not kewl it is evil being that feeds of your energy as you sleep or project into an astral
[01:14] <Thelper> yes
[01:14] <mrmagic526> I would agree. I've dealt with a lot of lazy people in my life. I'm not judging them but I would take credit applications from people who both parents were on welfare. They were leeches on society
[01:15] <bill300000> I'd really like to see parts of the C404 manual...
[01:15] <AlexanderTT> i can type parts of it for you all right now
[01:16] <GearBrains> please do
[01:16] <catman1> That would be interesting!!
[01:16] <bill300000> thats great.. But scanning it would even be better... Like JT did!
[01:17] <bill300000> did you say your friend had a scanner?
[01:17] <mrmagic526> The society discribed in 2036 sounds very similar to the Mormons idea of "law of consicration" or "United order" basically a socialistic lifestyle but more based on God and Faith. The mormons tried it once in the 19th century but couldn't live it due to weaknesses in the human nature.
[01:17] <AlexanderTT> lets see
[01:17] <AlexanderTT> im looking through it
[01:18] <bill300000> the part about the fuel cell being able to give off terawatts is interesting.
[01:18] <bill300000> is there much about it in there?
[01:19] <AlexanderTT> the fuel cell doesnt, the battery does, to start it
[01:19] <bill300000> K must be a different type of battery
[01:19] <bill300000> than what we know
[01:19] <catman1> What year (because of the wars) did they stop making cars??
[01:19] <AlexanderTT> lets see what the battery specs are in here
[01:19] <Thelper> alexander im sorry to say this but even you time is ignorant to the truth but from what your they understand there is a god which is futher than this time but this time also knows but expresses it wrong...
[01:19] <bill300000> Kewl
[01:20] <bill300000> what type of battery is it?
[01:20] <Thelper> dont owrry thou alexander your time has set a building block to a betetr world
[01:20] <Thelper>

[01:21] <mrmagic526> Thelper you talk about a change that's about to take place. You also mentioned how literal the Bible should be taken especially the prophesies. I believe all of that. Thats why the John Titor story and AlexanderTT have caught my attention. I also believe in a book that spoke of "A secret combination" that would try to limit the freedoms of all people in these last days. It seems that is true as well. Any thoughts?
[01:21] <AlexanderTT> alright here it is, organic electron collector specifications
[01:21] <Thelper> if my time idolized ppl it would be the ppl of your time for building blocks to our utopia of the future close not as it should be but very close than this times views
[01:21] <AlexanderTT> i cant type these symobols
[01:22] <bill300000> what is it made of?
[01:22] <Thelper> mrmagic im glad you realise this
[01:22] <Thelper> and there will be a judgement day at end of time thou in my time we have not seen this either
[01:23] <AlexanderTT> the numbers are 12.674to the 15th power and 1,000,000,000.0098 and some other weird symbol
[01:23] <Thelper> magic if your truely
[01:23] <mrmagic526> I guess one thing I would like to know is this. The secret combination (conspiracy guys) are they destroyed completely? I hope so they are the ones trying to enslave us in my opinion
[01:23] <Thelper> wish to find truths
[01:23] <Thelper> learn your spiritual side
[01:24] <mrmagic526> I've been focusing on that
[01:24] <AlexanderTT> oh here it is, something you will understand
[01:24] <Thelper> I know of a site I have joined to learn of what this time knows if you want link
[01:24] <bill300000> nothing else on the battery? like what type of organic material itis made of
[01:24] <Thelper> it will teach you how to get intouch with the divine powers
[01:24] <mrmagic526> I've had a pretty good experience with repentance.
[01:24] <mrmagic526> not a confessional type of thing but a very personal experience
[01:25] <Thelper> any bad action you do will come back to you this is called karma
[01:25] <mrmagic526> I'm trying to use that as a jumping block. Yes I read that in the logs
[01:25] <AlexanderTT> the OEC is made of kalipto bacteria, it is able to contain enough electrons to make two succsessful emergency jumps
[01:25] <AlexanderTT> does that make sense to any one?
[01:25] <Thelper> this
[01:25] <Thelper> yes
[01:26] <mrmagic526> Ever hear of a book called the Urantia book? Just curious mostly. I don't use that as any form of doctrine but just is an interesting read
[01:26] <bill300000> Not me..Im sure that is only part of it...there is more I'm sure
[01:26] <AlexanderTT> yes lots more
[01:26] <Thelper> living organisms generate these electrons I call it energy but your terms might be electrons atoms etc all them nieve physic terms
[01:26] <AlexanderTT> but that is the only part that seems to make sense
[01:27] <mrmagic526> they have the whole book online if you are interested. Urantia Book | Urantia Foundation | Custodian and Publisher of The Urantia Book since 1955
[01:27] <AlexanderTT> neat, so living bacteria holds the power
[01:27] <Thelper> not jsut that
[01:27] <Thelper> you yourself have power
[01:27] <Thelper> energy flowing thourgh you
[01:27] <bill300000> where are these things found/grown?
[01:28] <Thelper> acient mystic hand the power of atom powers at there dispol
[01:28] <AlexanderTT> i look and see
[01:28] <bill300000> it is neat...
[01:28] <AlexanderTT> in the index
[01:28] <AlexanderTT> i think it is man made
[01:28] <bill300000> interesting I wonder from what...
[01:28] <Thelper> nanotechics?
[01:28] <AlexanderTT> it doesnt have details on how to obtain it
[01:29] <Thelper> have you made microsophic living machines?
[01:29] <mrmagic526> I do understand that. God gives us powers and abilities so that we can help others. Spiritual gifts are quite interesting. My brother could literally see aura's around people. Different colors meant different things. WE didn't know it at the time but he saw blackness around one guy. We learned later he was a child molester.
[01:29] <Thelper> yes magic that is true
[01:29] <Link22> i dream of the future..a native american gift in me
 
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Opmmur

Time Travel Professor
Messages
4,864
mIRC Feb. 17, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Professor Opmmur
Session Start: February 17, 20:21, 2004
Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn



[01:30] <bill300000> how are the electrons captured in the battery?
[01:30] <mrmagic526> One guy he saw had pure white around him. He was a very honest, spiritual and humble man.
[01:30] <Thelper> link22 perhaps but dont confuse imagine sof the mind with true visions for to gain that type power you most first defeat your egos and selfdoubts
[01:30] <mrmagic526> around most he sees other colors however
[01:30] <AlexanderTT> i believe I cannot be killed, I know it sounds silly but you have not seen the close calls I have
[01:31] <Link22> you don't know me thelper..so shush
[01:31] <bill300000> dont say that...
[01:31] <mrmagic526> My grandmother while praying once had a very bright light fill her room. Too long of a story about the answer she recieved but it involved her mother in law who was dying of cancer
[01:32] <bill300000> Jt probably thought the same thing and the flu got him.
[01:32] <mrmagic526> who passed away the next day after that vision
[01:32] <AlexanderTT> im serious, i was in the battle of fort AU and I was standing up rallying my men, shots were flying everywhere, I did not get fatally hit
[01:32] <Thelper> JT still exists
[01:32] <Thelper> he would be in the astral now
[01:32] <AlexanderTT> other events like that happened even strabger ones
[01:33] <bill300000> wow really...
[01:33] <mrmagic526> I totally believe we live after we die. You're topics on the Soul is exactly what I believe. The human spirit and body make up the soul combined.
[01:33] <Thelper> alex'
[01:33] <Thelper> that is because
[01:33] <Thelper> it isnt your time
[01:33] <Thelper> you have a purpose
[01:33] <AlexanderTT> yes, one time a man in a building shot point blank at me and it felt as though the shot went right though me
[01:33] <bill300000> how much of an impact if any is sars going to be in the US in the next year of two
[01:34] <AlexanderTT> very little
[01:34] <AlexanderTT> sars is no threat like CJD is
[01:34] <bill300000> Really
[01:34] <Thelper> sars
[01:34] <bill300000> when is mad cow going to hit hard...
[01:34] <Thelper> they elimated quickly
[01:34] <Thelper> in asia so it is controlable no?
[01:34] <mrmagic526> Thelper interesting you throw out spiritual concepts that I believe and many of my faith believe. Yet not many people in this world accepts those ideas
[01:35] <AlexanderTT> august there abouts
[01:35] <Thelper> yes I know
[01:35] <Thelper> but they will learn over time
[01:35] <AlexanderTT> there a prediction!
[01:35] * AlexanderTT laughs
[01:36] <mrmagic526> Do you believe that God, Jesus Christ and holy ghost are the same or different beings?
[01:36] <bill300000> ha ha ha thanks... how about ebola dengue smallpox more anthrax in the US
[01:36] <bill300000> anything like that?
[01:36] <Thelper> GOD and jesus yes
[01:36] <Thelper> holly spirit is gods
[01:36] <mrmagic526> different?
[01:36] <Thelper> part of god
[01:36] <Thelper> yes
[01:36] <mrmagic526> ahh
[01:36] <mrmagic526> good
[01:36] <Thelper> but also
[01:36] <Thelper> divine powers
[01:36] <Thelper> such angels
[01:36] <Thelper> working for god
[01:37] <Thelper> they can be called masters and help you iof you wish to learn spiritually
[01:37] <Thelper> evil enties will try to prevent this
[01:37] <AlexanderTT> did you all see the event I was talking about around the super bowl?
[01:37] <mrmagic526> glad to see that the truth prevails. I hate the creeds that confuse such a simple topic
[01:37] <Thelper> as it makes it harder for them to decieve you in death
[01:37] <Thelper> it sorta battle good and evil satan exsists also

[01:37] <Thelper> sadly
[01:37] <bill300000> during halftime the disrobing of...
[01:37] <mrmagic526> Well that battle has raged even before this earth was formed
[01:38] <catman1> We all saw that !!!!
[01:38] <Thelper> yes that is true
[01:38] <Thelper> magic
[01:38] <AlexanderTT> not janet
[01:38] <Thelper> itis believ that these enties of evil could been humans
[01:38] <AlexanderTT> haa haa haa
[01:38] <Thelper> that chose evil over good
[01:38] <bill300000> well that was an event...
[01:38] <AlexanderTT> lmao
[01:39] <bill300000> Gotta look at the real intersting stuff too
[01:39] <mrmagic526> True.
[01:39] <bill300000> hee hee
[01:39] <Thelper> we cant see them but some negative forces can affect your lifes here
[01:39] <Thelper> I believe you'd call it attaching
[01:39] <bill300000> thats right it was supposed to be something that was to have an impact.
[01:40] <mrmagic526> My faith believes that the war in heaven caused 1/3 of the spirtual beings to be cast out. They came to the earth without bodies. We the ones with bodies were the other 2/3rds
[01:40] <mrmagic526> the other ones try to get us to fail
[01:40] <Thelper> also a negative can take the form of human, they might not know it but ti would be someone that constantly degrades you makes you feel lower than you are and prevent you finding yourself
[01:41] <AlexanderTT> so no one noticed the event?
[01:41] <mrmagic526> exactly. People allow themselves to be taken over and become those same enemies.
[01:41] <mrmagic526> but it's slow
[01:41] <AlexanderTT> history tells that you didnt
[01:41] <mrmagic526> they never know it
[01:41] <Thelper> yes
[01:41] <mrmagic526> until it's too late
[01:41] <Thelper> till they die
[01:41] <bill300000> No what was it I missed it...what was it...
[01:41] <Thelper> and end up in hell plains
[01:41] <Thelper> everything u can imagine
[01:41] <Thelper> exsists
[01:41] <Thelper> in the 5th dimention
[01:42] <Thelper> your fear itself will manifest
[01:42] <bill300000> since it has already passed...
[01:42] <catman1> maybe we wwere looking at Janet to much!!! haa haa haa
[01:42] <mrmagic526> for me hell would be to not see my friends and family again.
[01:42] <Thelper> the path of light is all that need to love God and know he here all he asks
[01:42] <Link22> what event Alex?
[01:42] <Thelper> but to those who wish to learn more the divines will help us to path of good and understanding
[01:43] <AlexanderTT> bill300000, something was sent to congress, and due to that they passed another law that day, under the table like, limiting your rights once again
[01:43] <AlexanderTT> bill300000, the true events that are taking you to war are not being seen
[01:43] <mrmagic526> People should read one part of the bible then they would have all the answers. When Jesus answered the question about the greatest commandment
[01:43] <Link22> Alex..didn't you say Texas was winning their fight?
[01:43] <mrmagic526> Love God, and Love thy Neighbor as thyself.
[01:44] <Thelper> yes
[01:44] <Thelper> we are all one not many
[01:44] <Thelper> as I have stated
[01:44] <Thelper> many many times
[01:44] <AlexanderTT> yes texas was holding there own
[01:44] <Link22> I'm in Texas..i hope that means I have a good fighting chance
[01:44] <bill300000> Oh about the Ricn poisoning? was that it
[01:44] <Thelper> you dont have to love yourself here I mean you can dislike you egos and negativitys
[01:44] <catman1> I guess there is no question that its Kerry vs Bush!!
[01:45] <Thelper> but you have to love yourself in the astral body
[01:45] <mrmagic526> He even instituted the law of no poor and that all are equal. You see it many times in the bible where it states after people were baptised and followed him that it says "There were no poor among them"
[01:45] <Thelper> ill call it that since most use this term
[01:45] <mrmagic526> Right
[01:45] <Link22> I can see Texas winning...Texans are very tough and would never roll over and lose their rights
[01:45] <mrmagic526> The negative is what we try to get rid of
[01:45] <Thelper> yes
[01:45] <bill300000> so this stuff is all under the table we dont have a clue what is really going on.
[01:45] <Thelper> we try to learn to acend slowly to our lord God
[01:45] <mrmagic526> I'm working on that by trying to serve more in my community and people
[01:45] <AlexanderTT> what do you think of your electorial college Link22
[01:46] <AlexanderTT> what if kerry wins the votes but Bush still wins office?
[01:46] <Thelper> im not afraid to voice my view im not forcing none to listen just allowing them to know if they chose to or not is there trueself desire
[01:46] <Link22> i think the electorial college is all a joke
[01:46] <Thelper> wrong word
[01:46] <AlexanderTT> what if a flaw is found in the electrial college
[01:46] <Thelper> desire
[01:46] <Link22> i think the people should be the vote
[01:46] <mrmagic526> IT doesn't matter who wins the next election they are both "Skull and Bones" members they have the same adjenda
[01:46] <bill300000> Im figuring that will be the case bush will loose and wind up in office.
[01:46] <AlexanderTT> what if people get very angry due to this?
[01:46] <Thelper> I meant wanting to find
[01:46] <Link22> funny you mention that Alex..i thought that in the 2000 election
[01:46] <Thelper> desires are also negativitys
[01:47] <AlexanderTT> i never sayed bush is your next president , remember that, what I said was dont be suprised
[01:47] <mrmagic526> righeous desires are good.
[01:47] <mrmagic526> unselfish desires are good.
[01:47] <Link22> you did say he would be re-elected Alex
[01:47] <bill300000> No he didnt
[01:47] <Link22> it's on the forum
[01:47] <mrmagic526> I just say it doesn't matter who's elected.
[01:47] <Thelper> true
[01:48] <Thelper> 'I meant sexual and personal gain etc
[01:48] <AlexanderTT> did I Link22?
[01:48] <Link22> yes
[01:48] <Link22> i'll find it
[01:48] <AlexanderTT> provide url please
[01:48] <mrmagic526> They are the same "skull and bones" people want a one world government based on greed and power
[01:48] <Thelper> mrmagic do you know how to project oneself?
[01:48] <bill300000> from what I saw he said it was the democrat that won. That is what I remember him saying.
[01:48] <Thelper> to your other body?
[01:48] <mrmagic526> No I dont thelper
[01:48] <mrmagic526> Have a friend who could
[01:48] <Thelper> ok brb
[01:48] <AlexanderTT> no i said we dont remember bush we remember the democratic/independent that was power hungry
[01:49] <Thelper> http://www.mysticweb.org/forums/2.html
[01:49] <Thelper> all wish to learn this site has course I will be observing
[01:49] <Thelper> starting 20th feb
[01:49] <Thelper> its free
[01:49] <Thelper> and online
[01:49] <mrmagic526> cool
[01:49] <bill300000> What is the problem with the electoral college...
[01:49] <bill300000> No one is going to listen to us anyway...
[01:49] <AlexanderTT> a very big problem
[01:49] <mrmagic526> Kerry is power hungry he said he wanted to be president since he was a freshman in college
[01:50] <bill300000> you may as well tell us
[01:50] <AlexanderTT> mathmetical
[01:50] <Thelper> dont they decide who turn it is?
[01:50] <mrmagic526> he was obsessed with the idea of being president
[01:50] <Thelper> it nothing do with the people
[01:50] <AlexanderTT> it doesnt matter how or for whom you vote for, the next president is pre-determined by an equation
[01:50] <bill300000> what type of equation? and how is it uncovered...
[01:51] <Thelper> power hungry is not a good desire
[01:51] <mrmagic526> I know that already. We haven't elected a pres in a long time
[01:51] <Thelper> careful that presendant is not one of negative
[01:51] <bill300000> that sucks
[01:51] <Thelper> they wont care for death either
[01:51] <mrmagic526> power hungry is evil in nature so....
[01:51] <bill300000> I vote for what...
[01:51] <bill300000> wealth power and greed corrupt...its a fact..
[01:52] <AlexanderTT> you want a prediction? i'll give you one
[01:52] <AlexanderTT> the next president you have will not be voted in, and I dont mean its up for debate like 2000 election , I mean he clearly was not the choice of the people
[01:53] <bill300000> Jt said it will be obviously one way and the other will be elected..
[01:53] <bill300000> is that the case?
[01:53] <AlexanderTT> yes
[01:53] <AlexanderTT> !!!
[01:54] <mrmagic526> Bush will remain president because of his advisors. I don't believe Bush is a bad person however the crew from the "The Project for a new American Century" are the bad ones.
[01:54] <AlexanderTT> who has figured this out by now?
[01:54] <bill300000> I got alot from JT he posted all over in many different places alot of useful things...
[01:55] <Thelper> bush is peon
[01:55] <Thelper> i believe
[01:55] <mrmagic526> There are 8 or 9 guys from that Project in either the cabinet of the pres (including rumsfield) or in high positions such as the Director of the CIA
[01:55] <Thelper> ignorant himself
[01:55] <AlexanderTT> speaking of my old, friend, if he was here he would have had that NV guy begging for mercy
[01:55] <bill300000> My guess is the democrat will be elected and bush will be back in office.
[01:55] <mrmagic526> Agreed bush is being manipulated
[01:55] <bill300000> your right he definitely had a great way of speaking/posting on the internet.
[01:55] <bill300000> Very talented man...
[01:56] <bill300000> Where ever he is ...
[01:56] <Thelper> he still here
[01:56] <bill300000> He maybe around here my guess is he may come back here again...
[01:56] <mrmagic526> Rumsfield even signed a document as part of this Project and submitted it to Clinton saying to attack Iraq
[01:56] <Thelper> you could contact him
[01:56] <Thelper> if he is indeed dead he be in the fith dimention
[01:56] <AlexanderTT> that is possible he made other jump back in time
[01:57] <bill300000> Alex what you may not be aware of..
[01:57] <bill300000> is he made several jumps forward several years... from 2001 into the future
[01:57] <bill300000> with his younger self...
[01:57] <AlexanderTT> for what purpose?
[01:57] <bill300000> I picked that up off of a fax that pam got from Art Belle
[01:58] <Thelper> that is sorta wrong
[01:58] <bill300000> I dont know why I just read it..
[01:58] <bill300000> Im the one that read about the WTC also and emailed you about it..
[01:58] <bill300000> in case you forgot...
[01:58] <mrmagic526> however those jumps might have taken him to another timeline and not ours if I figure it correctly. More than likely we wouldn't see him Alive again.
[01:58] <AlexanderTT> he could have made thousands of jumps, the C204 was able to do that
[01:58] <AlexanderTT> my C404 is programmed, so I cannot
[01:58] <bill300000> So he maybe reading this
[01:59] <Thelper> if he died
[01:59] <mrmagic526> doubt he'll be reading this
[01:59] <mrmagic526> right
[01:59] <bill300000> Oh really your under your govt's control... I know how you feel
[01:59] <bill300000> Hee hee
[01:59] <AlexanderTT> if he is, then I wish you the best of luck my friend
[01:59] <Thelper> I im now confused I believe he in astral as well as this time as a child
[01:59] <Thelper> hmm
[01:59] <bill300000> My guess he would have gone fwd to the elections look for him there
 
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mIRC Feb. 17, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
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Session Start: February 17, 20:21, 2004
Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn


[02:00] <AlexanderTT> true it is an interesting time
[02:00] <mrmagic526> thelper paradox?
[02:00] <Thelper> thinking
[02:00] <Thelper> how can be possible?
[02:00] <Thelper> unless we are already dead
[02:00] <Thelper> and every you is ocnnected
[02:00] <AlexanderTT> there is something else he would have wanted to watch in the not so distant future <----remember that
[02:00] <Thelper> to the astral beeing?
[02:00] <Thelper> being
[02:01] <Link22> ok you were right about you not saying Bush was elected or not Alexander..my apology..i got mixed up with someone elses comment on the forum
[02:01] <bill300000> Yes.... Pam
[02:01] <AlexanderTT> no problem Link22
[02:01] <mrmagic526> Well time is irrelevent to God. Maybe it is the same to spirits as well?
[02:01] <Thelper> I believe so
[02:01] <Thelper> yes
[02:01] <AlexanderTT> why you say that bill300000
[02:01] <Thelper> that means we area ll Time travels
[02:01] <Thelper> in a sense
[02:01] <Link22> Alex...today I am 22 years old..is anyone from my generation still around in your time?
[02:02] <bill300000> he wanted to meet with her sometime after the attacks
[02:02] <AlexanderTT> yes Link22
[02:02] <AlexanderTT> he loved her I think
[02:02] <Link22> I read that you now refer to my generation as Elders
[02:02] <mrmagic526> still that doesn't make sense either because if that were true my ghost after I die could visit me now. Yet that spirit is in me already......
[02:02] <bill300000> for her sake I hope so because I thinkthe feelings might be mutual
[02:02] <Link22> that you respect your Elders..but people still somewhat blame them for the mess
[02:03] <mrmagic526> I believe the spirit is the same in all timelines somehow connected. So all timelines yet one spirit
[02:03] <Thelper> unless it is already there
[02:03] <Thelper> just connected to us?
[02:03] <Link22> one thing that bothers me is Alex..why blame my generation?...my generation is still very young and has not established itself in the world arena yet. My generation just gets pulled into the war like yours does. we are not to blame
[02:03] <bill300000> did you 911 occur identical to ours or do you have double memories of it being any different.
[02:03] <Thelper> maybe we live its life in our dreams?
[02:03] <AlexanderTT> i blame your society as a whole Link22
[02:04] <catman1> Are the elections going to be cancelled or postponded using t.e.r.r.o.i.s.m. as the exuse??
[02:04] <mrmagic526> Honestly had a dream like that as a kid. WHen I saw the Matrix movie I was in shock because it was similar.
[02:04] <AlexanderTT> and not the gen x'rs
[02:04] <Link22> but we are not all bad Alex. society sickens me..but we still have some good people
[02:04] <mrmagic526> at least in concept
[02:04] <AlexanderTT> catman1, wow you are so close to figuring something out
[02:04] <Thelper> truely till we die wont have full truths but we can learn now
[02:04] <Thelper> take that course I believe it is simplar to what I know
[02:05] <AlexanderTT> yes Link22, and I have met some here, which is why I am still here
[02:05] <Link22> I put up with stupid greedy people everyday..i loathe society too Alex. I can't stand greed
[02:05] <Thelper> im taking it for observation to see just how much ppl realise
[02:05] <mrmagic526> Society's noise comes from the loudest noises. not even 1/10 of the people create 90% of the noise and problems in society
[02:05] <catman1> I had a dream that Ashcroft tried to pull something and it started a r.i.o.t.!!!
[02:06] <AlexanderTT> is the offer still on the table for me to ask a favor of all of you?
[02:06] <mrmagic526> okay thelper I bookmarked the page...... I have to go to bed now. I hope these logs get posted
[02:06] <catman1> sure!!!!!
[02:06] <Link22> i work in the hotel business...people are very rude. just because they are "elite members" with a hotel..they act like they are something special
[02:06] <bill300000> sure
[02:06] <mrmagic526> GO ahead
[02:06] <Thelper> what type favour/
[02:06] <AlexanderTT> it will sound childish
[02:07] <AlexanderTT> be preparred to laugh
[02:07] <Thelper> link22 that is tied to the egos
[02:07] <mrmagic526> as long as it doesn't involve koolaid (bad punn sorry)
[02:07] <Link22> haa haa haa
[02:07] <AlexanderTT> is there any good whats the word..... match-makers in here?
[02:07] <mrmagic526> you want a date?
[02:08] <catman1> for who???
[02:08] <AlexanderTT> i want a wife and family
[02:08] <mrmagic526> I'm 34 and looking for the same alex
[02:08] <Thelper> ?
[02:08] <bill300000> are you going to stay here
[02:08] <Link22> your trying to find a wife in this time???
[02:08] <catman1> you want to take them back???
[02:08] <AlexanderTT> if she wish's to go
[02:08] <Link22> Alex..no offense man..women are not what they used to be in this time
[02:08] <Thelper> why not find one in your time?
[02:08] <bill300000> if she doesnt you will stay...
[02:08] <AlexanderTT> women in my time are mostly barren and sterile
[02:09] <mrmagic526> I wouldn't stay........
[02:09] <Thelper> you dont want a women from this time
[02:09] <AlexanderTT> why not stay?
[02:09] <Link22> women in todays world try to act like one of the guys..nothing grosses me out more than a woman with a belly t-shirt, flip flops, and a beer in her hand
[02:09] <bill300000> maybe thats a good idea...
[02:09] <Thelper> they are mainly corrupt like rest this world
[02:09] <mrmagic526> not the women that I know.... I know some very good women.... however they are in Utah.....
[02:09] <bill300000> you havent seen what alex is dealing with...
[02:09] <Thelper> wait sec
[02:09] <Thelper> Alex
[02:09] <Thelper> are they all sterile?
[02:09] <Thelper> thisw is important?
[02:10] <bill300000> JT said most were
[02:10] <Thelper> how can humanity survive
[02:10] <AlexanderTT> like I said women have difficulty having children I wish to have a son
[02:10] <Thelper> if we cant have children?
[02:10] <Link22> ah you want to be a dad
[02:10] <AlexanderTT> yes Link22
[02:10] <AlexanderTT> excatly
[02:10] <Thelper> Alexander is it wise to bring a child into the coming world?
[02:10] <Thelper> I mean it will be hell on earth
[02:10] <AlexanderTT> and I want to love another like I love my brothers in war
[02:10] <Thelper> I have thought of this also and have thought it would be wrong of me
[02:10] <Link22> i want to be a dad..but i'm not having any children if the war comes
[02:10] <Thelper> knowing of the war coming
[02:10] <catman1> would you not be afraid to meet someone..or would you just not say about who you are???
[02:11] <Thelper> it would be selfish of me to bring a child into such a corrupted world
[02:11] <AlexanderTT> i would be afraid catman1, and i would probably not say where I am truly from
[02:11] <Link22> i'd say the best way is for Alex to meet a woman and just pretend he is a typical guy from 2004
[02:11] <Link22> if he hits it off with her
[02:11] <bill300000> I wouldnt say
[02:11] <Link22> then tell her who he is
[02:11] <mrmagic526> Well I believe if you are a good parent the child can be protected from a lot of the corruption....
[02:11] <bill300000> if I was you...
[02:12] <AlexanderTT> that would say it is difficult for me to act like a typical guy
[02:12] <bill300000> It has to be a woman that has no family that wont mind leaving..
[02:12] <Thelper> mtrmagic I mean
[02:12] <Link22> i mean just be yourself Alex (without saying your from the future)
[02:12] <Thelper> I dont want my child dieing in pain from
[02:12] <mrmagic526> Agreed. It's hard to pretend to be something you're not......
[02:12] <catman1> are you familiar with all the current slang and so forth!!
[02:12] <AlexanderTT> if I survived the war once I can do it now , especially with my knowledge
[02:12] <Thelper> bio bombs radition desease
[02:12] <Thelper> etc
[02:12] <mrmagic526> true
[02:12] <Thelper> I would not want to bring a child into a world like this
[02:12] <Link22> come to Texas Alex..you said Texas is winning..you would probably do well here when the war starts
[02:13] <mrmagic526> But don't you think you could help them survive especially if you know what's coming
[02:13] <AlexanderTT> i am learning your slang... cool man, that awesome dude
[02:13] <AlexanderTT> da bomb diggity
[02:13] <catman1> how old are you now??
[02:13] <Thelper> not mater what that is why I will not be having children I am in a 22 yr body but have decided I can not be selfish and bring a young soul into a world of pain
[02:13] <AlexanderTT> 39 but I look much much younger
[02:13] <Thelper> I will wait till I am brough back in future
[02:13] <AlexanderTT> long story as to why I look younger
[02:14] <catman1> have to do with TT??
[02:14] <AlexanderTT> im not a midget or anything
[02:14] <mrmagic526> I'm 34 but look 26 so......
[02:14] <AlexanderTT> no more along the lines of radiation
[02:14] <Link22> I'm 22..act like I am 40
[02:14] <bill300000> what does radiation have to do with it.
[02:14] <catman1> what does radiation do??
[02:14] <Thelper> Alex can you truely bring a life that wasnt meant into world of total pain?
[02:14] <AlexanderTT> long story I said
 

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mIRC Feb. 17, 2004; Alexanders chat thanks to KPAX
Posted by: Professor Opmmur
Session Start: February 17, 20:21, 2004
Session Ident: #TimeTravellersInn



[02:15] <mrmagic526> mines because I have oily skin and it doesn't age as fast as people who sunbath or have dry skin
[02:15] <AlexanderTT> lets just say an after effect of radiation treatment , tightened skin and so forth
[02:15] <Thelper> I mean he would have such hardships and may not live long, it is my believe that it is chance to come back to earth and if it was wasted on this soul I would feel bad
[02:15] <AlexanderTT> also being skinny helps
[02:16] <bill300000> true
[02:16] <mrmagic526> night all I'm going to stay in the channel I forgot I turned my logs on......
[02:16] <catman1> Earlier I treid to join this group on undernet by mistake...I think I created this group on undernet by joining it!!
[02:16] <AlexanderTT> who will keep the channel open?
[02:16] <Thelper> Alex
[02:16] <catman1> I dont know what will happen?
[02:16] <Link22> not me..i have to work tomorrow...sigh
[02:16] <Thelper> did you answer my query?
[02:17] <bill300000> Oh alex are we going to be experiencing things like ebola dengue smallpox etc.. In the US
[02:17] <mrmagic526> I'll try to stay in it...... Sometimes my computer doesn't always cooperate
[02:17] <AlexanderTT> which one thelper?
[02:17] <Thelper> I mean he would have such hardships and may not live long, it is my believe that it is chance to come back to earth and if it was wasted on this soul I would feel bad
[02:17] <Thelper> I asked you
[02:17] <bill300000> I'll try and leave my computer on... my dsl usually stays up...
[02:17] <AlexanderTT> you will experience other diseases than CJD bill300000
[02:18] <bill300000> Jt posted all that stuff I was wondering about it...
[02:18] <AlexanderTT> GearBrains?
[02:18] <bill300000> the postings disappear... never figured that one out?
[02:18] <Thelper> if you could truely bring a child into a world you know going to be hell for yrs coming I mean isnt it selfish for you to bring someone not meant to into time of such pain? I also mean that isnt it wrong to change a souls time of arrival?
[02:18] <AlexanderTT> trying to be silenced
[02:18] <AlexanderTT> thelper I believe I could protect my child
[02:18] <Thelper> that isnt the point
[02:19] <AlexanderTT> and besides, the women might want to go back home with me
[02:19] <Thelper> point is it was not his time to be brought into world like this
[02:19] <bill300000> there are alot of single women here in california, many may not be what you want.
[02:19] <Thelper> I know if I was dead now I would nto want to come to this world
[02:19] <Thelper> I would rather be happy in the plains
[02:19] <Thelper> till a better time arrises?
[02:19] <Link22> what the world needs is a Super Saiyan!
[02:19] <AlexanderTT> i want family
 

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