Debate Proponents of corruption?

[Beholder]

You rarely hear from any proponent of corruption, but it did stop Putin's war machine by destroying itself, so a philosophical analysis might be needed. Without having to weigh against the bad, what are the benefits of corruption?

 

[OakFieldAlienz444]

You're willing to do anything to get what's best for you.
Assuming you're the one instigating the corruption----cuz for the lower level
people it always sucks.
So a perceived benefit may be that you tend to get what you want for a while.
The issue with corruption lies that you end up compromised and loyal to something
that could also turn on you due to um----corruption?

It just breeds more corruption many times.

However, it can serve you to a degree----just not in the long run.
But it can definitely get you fame and fortune for a while that
can be preserved by being willing to do anything no matter how terrible.

I think our current problem is too much corruption but I can see how
you could argue nature itself is corrupt to a degree.

 

[OakFieldAlienz444]

benefits of corruption: i'll let you kiss a beautiful woman and give you
a truckload of chocolate cake if you agree to let our organization destroy
the entire human race and eventually you.


Not the best deal when you analyze it in the long run.

 

[OakFieldAlienz444]

There may be a difference between being ruthless and corrupt.
Tough and willing to do anything for your people might be a good thing
so long as you don't use that ruthlessness on your own people, and
only to WEED OUT "corruption" and incompetence.

 

[Mayhem]

Pay off those that could take you down for as long as you can, do them a few favours while you reap the money, power, decisions.

Benefits may play out for a while around you, family, environment, business be prepared to have a nest egg tucked away as you might have to get out fast if someone is coming for you.

Limited sections of population may see benefits land subdivisions etc, political motivations but corruption goes far and wide they all have their hands in the pockets of another.

 

[OakFieldAlienz444]

Exactly---I would say the main problem with it is you're always beholden to something
else, even the big wigs are. At one point or another they were compromised by being
filmed doing something bad and then blackmailed.

Corruption is a double edged sword but it's definitely not lacking in our world.

 

[OakFieldAlienz444]

Beholder does have a point-----most people just sit around wanting to be "good"
without really knowing what that means, and never contemplate what is "good
what is "evil" and whether sometimes you've gotta be evil to survive or even
do "good" in the long run. It's philosophy.

 

[Beholder]

Beholder does have a point-----most people just sit around wanting to be "good"
without really knowing what that means, and never contemplate what is "good
what is "evil" and whether sometimes you've gotta be evil to survive or even
do "good" in the long run. It's philosophy.

Zhuhai in China would not have their tax funded palm beaches if prostitution did not bring in money from corrupt men in other cities. So police look the other way.

 

[OakFieldAlienz444]

Zhuhai in China would not have their tax funded palm beaches if prostitution did not bring in money from corrupt men in other cities.

It's yin and yang---dark and light working together.
Neither is unnecessary it's about balance.
The Jedi and Sith were BOTH wrong.
You gotta have both dark and light.