Robert Schoch on JRE (Egypt- Sphinx Paw Chamber & Dating Correction)

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Professor Robert Schoch on the Joe Rogan Experience on YouTube:


A must listen for anyone into Egypt & Human History -
If some of you haven't caught the John Anthony West & Dr. Robert Schoch documentary on the Sphinx Dating, it is a must see - check on YT)

BIO:

Dr. Robert M. Schoch, a full-time faculty member at the College of General Studies at Boston University since 1984, and a recipient of its Peyton Richter Award for interdisciplinary teaching, earned his Ph.D. in Geology and Geophysics at Yale University in 1983. He also holds an M.S. and M.Phil. in Geology and Geophysics from Yale, as well as degrees in Anthropology (B.A.) and Geology (B.S.) from George Washington University. In recognition of his research into ancient civilizations, Dr. Schoch was awarded (in 2014) the title of Honorary Professor of the Nikola Vaptsarov Naval Academy in Varna, Bulgaria. In 2017, the College of General Studies at Boston University named him Director of its Institute for the Study of the Origins of Civilization (ISOC).


In the early 1990s, Dr. Schoch stunned the world with his revolutionary research that recast the date of the Great Sphinx of Egypt to a period thousands of years earlier than its standard attribution. In demonstrating that the leonine monument has been heavily eroded by water despite the fact that its location on the edge of the Sahara has endured hyper-arid climactic conditions for the past 5,000 years, Dr. Schoch revealed to the world that mankind’s history is greater and older than previously believed. Dr. Schoch’s research, put forth in his book Forgotten Civilization: The Role of Solar Outbursts in Our Past and Future (2012), points to the astronomical cause of the demise of antediluvian civilization, as well as the scientific and archaeological evidence that supports his conclusions.


Dr. Schoch has been quoted extensively in the media for his work on ancient cultures and monuments around the globe, including Egypt, Turkey, Bosnia, Romania, Bulgaria, Wales, England, Scotland, Malta, Norway, Mexico, Peru, Bolivia, Chile (Easter Island), South Africa, India, Indonesia, and Japan. His research has been instrumental in spurring renewed attention to the interrelationships between geological and astronomical phenomena, natural catastrophes, and the early history of civilization. He has appeared on numerous radio and television shows and is featured in the Emmy-winning documentary The Mystery of the Sphinx, which first aired on NBC in 1993.


The author and coauthor of books both technical and popular, Dr. Schoch’s works include Phylogeny Reconstruction in Paleontology (1986), Stratigraphy: Principles and Methods (1989), Voices of the Rocks (1999), Voyages of the Pyramid Builders (2003), Pyramid Quest (2005), The Parapsychology Revolution (2008), Forgotten Civilization (2012), and Origins of the Sphinx (2017), among others. Dr. Schoch is also the coauthor of an environmental science textbook used in universities across the United States, and he has contributed to numerous magazines, journals, and reviews on geology, ancient civilizations, parapsychology, and other topics. His works have been translated into a number of languages and distributed around the world.


Besides his academic and scholarly studies, Dr. Schoch is an active environmental advocate who stresses a pragmatic, hands-on approach. In this connection, he helped found a local community land trust devoted to protecting land from harmful development, serving on its Board of Directors for many years. And despite acknowledging that our Sun is a major driver of climate on the planet, Dr. Schoch takes an active part in “green” politics; for over a decade he served as an elected member of his local city council.


In 1993, an extinct mammal genus was named Schochia in honor of Dr. Schoch’s paleontological contributions.


The chamber beneath the Sphinx's paw, which Dr. Schoch discovered in the early 1990s (working with Dr. Thomas Dobecki) and which many people believe is an ancient archive or "Hall of Records", remains unexplored.


Dr. Schoch's website is www.robertschoch.com
 

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This makes me think of Michael Tsarion's work. I had a great book by him on ancient Ireland predeluvian history. Have you heard of or read any of his writings or talks on Red Ice Creations?
 

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@3sp - I've only heard a few of his talks on YT. I'd love to read his work on Ireland . Thanks for the suggestions. Any idea what the name of the book is ?
 

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Schoch is an interesting man, but the quoted material misrepresents his findings, which findings, BTW, are not well-supported.

I wrote an article here a decade ago about this. It's been reposted:

On the Antiquity of the Sphinx

In it I explain the basis for Schoch's claims, though I've learned much since then and now know that he's almost certainly wrong.

Harte
 

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Schoch is an interesting man, but the quoted material misrepresents his findings, which findings, BTW, are not well-supported.

I wrote an article here a decade ago about this. It's been reposted:

On the Antiquity of the Sphinx

In it I explain the basis for Schoch's claims, though I've learned much since then and now know that he's almost certainly wrong.

Harte
Wrong about what? How he dated the Sphinx or its age? Personally I think he is spot on about its age and about the CME angle. But I am open to new info.

Such as...


Look under the ear. What is that?
 

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@Harte Be careful Hartey, our new members aim is to agitate and disturb people. He is not selling bread, he is selling yeast :eek: :D..
BTW, yeast can be found in several areas on the human body :sick: :LOL:..
 

Harte

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Wrong about what? How he dated the Sphinx or its age? Personally I think he is spot on about its age and about the CME angle. But I am open to new info.
Schoch's date is entirely based on subsurface weathering, detected with sound waves created by manually banging on a steel plate on the ground.
This weathering is caused by exposure to air, not water. Even covering the bed with all that sand for centuries has no effect on the weathering he was measuring.
Schoch found a difference in the depth of this weathering between the front of the sphinx and the rear. According to his data, the weathering in the back did not extend as deep as that in the front. From this he hypothesized that the front of the sphinx was older, and that Khafre had the rear finished off in the Old Kingdom. Assuming that the weathering progresses at the same rate in the front as it does in the back leads to his estimated age of the sphinx, counting backwards from his assumed Khafre sphinx completion. You can find all this information in his original paper on it.

What Schoch doesn't mention in that paper is that:
1. The limestone bed the sphinx is carved out of varies greatly between layers, and so the progress of weathering will likewise advance at different rates in the sphinx enclosure floor. On top of that, variations in hardness of the levels will affect the reflected sound waves he was reading. These variations would make little difference if the bed of limestone was parallel to the floor of the enclosure. However, the bed is actually tilted with respect to the level floor. Side to side AND front to back. The different layers within the bed do not lie at the same depths everywhere in the enclosure. Schoch does not even address this easily verified fact in his paper.

2. Schoch doesn't include his data in his original paper, but I was able to locate it years ago. The link is dead now (it was at Schoch's website) but it showed two things that went unmentioned by Schoch:
A) Schoch had only one, single reading from the rear of the sphinx.
B) Schoch's method of dating would show that the sides of the sphinx are actually older than the front (which he claimed was the oldest part.)
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Schoch's date is entirely based on subsurface weathering, detected with sound waves created by manually banging on a steel plate on the ground.
This weathering is caused by exposure to air, not water. Even covering the bed with all that sand for centuries has no effect on the weathering he was measuring.
Schoch found a difference in the depth of this weathering between the front of the sphinx and the rear. According to his data, the weathering in the back did not extend as deep as that in the front. From this he hypothesized that the front of the sphinx was older, and that Khafre had the rear finished off in the Old Kingdom. Assuming that the weathering progresses at the same rate in the front as it does in the back leads to his estimated age of the sphinx, counting backwards from his assumed Khafre sphinx completion. You can find all this information in his original paper on it.

What Schoch doesn't mention in that paper is that:
1. The limestone bed the sphinx is carved out of varies greatly between layers, and so the progress of weathering will likewise advance at different rates in the sphinx enclosure floor. On top of that, variations in hardness of the levels will affect the reflected sound waves he was reading. These variations would make little difference if the bed of limestone was parallel to the floor of the enclosure. However, the bed is actually tilted with respect to the level floor. Side to side AND front to back. The different layers within the bed do not lie at the same depths everywhere in the enclosure. Schoch does not even address this easily verified fact in his paper.

2. Schoch doesn't include his data in his original paper, but I was able to locate it years ago. The link is dead now (it was at Schoch's website) but it showed two things that went unmentioned by Schoch:
A) Schoch had only one, single reading from the rear of the sphinx.
B) Schoch's method of dating would show that the sides of the sphinx are actually older than the front (which he claimed was the oldest part.)
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Harte
Nice! So what is the age?
 

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Old Kingdom. 4th Dynasty.
Most likely built during the reign of Khafre.

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